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Ignitebudz
12-02-2011, 06:35 AM
Hi, I started growing a random seed about 5-6 weeks ago now and have been having problems for about the past 2-2 1/2 weeks...
The leaves and been yellowing and falling off at a pretty good rate....I think from what I've read it could be an N deficiency but I'm not sure and I don't even know how to correct that lol. Heres my trouble shooting form with some pics.



What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...)
2nd grow, first grow didn't get to flower stage

Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. (MH, HPS, CFL's, tube fluorescents, LED's)
6 26w cfl = 9900 lumens
.2) Distance from tops?
3" from the top of plant and two bulbs on each side of plant 2" away
.3) Reflector type? (cool tube set-up, bat wing, enclosed reflector, bare bulb...)
inside of grow box is lined with mylar
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply?
yes
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan?
yes
.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule?
6 x 26 w cfl bulbs...kelvin...? 18 on and 6 off schedule

Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...)
1 year old Fox Farm Ocean forest...dont know if age matters but was kept outdoors in a shed for that time
.8) Size of container.
I believe 2 quart
.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings?
Germinated 1 seed

Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) What's it's ph before adjusting?
tap, it is around 6.8 - 7 ph
11) Method of checking water ph. (ph pen, test strips, aquarium test kit...)
drops...
12) Method of adjusting water ph. (phosphoric acid, white vinegar, hydrated lime, PH Up...)
Ph up and ph down
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule.
Fox Farm Grow Big havent been feeding, yellowing started after I began feeding so I stopped
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering?
N/A
15) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...)
N/A
16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate?
They seem stable but cant be sure because of the stupid drops...
17) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph?
ingoing = 6.3-6.5 outgoing = havent tried to check for a few weeks, was 6.5 wen i did though
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray?
N/A

Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors?
Indoors
20) What size of closet, room or hut?
14 " wide, 10" deep and 27 " tall
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off?
temp is usually from 70-85 degrees F, humidity unkown...
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom?
No
Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?)
Don't know, random bonus seed from seed bank
24) From seeds or clones?
seed...
25) Is this an autoflower strain?
Dont think so?

These are from 2 days ago.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e140/Ignite_2389/IMG_20111126_210705.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e140/Ignite_2389/IMG_20111126_210633.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e140/Ignite_2389/IMG_20111126_210613.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e140/Ignite_2389/IMG_20111126_210728.jpg

This Last one just shows how many dead yellow leaves I pull off every 2-3 days...

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e140/Ignite_2389/IMG_20111130_121400.jpg

These are from today
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e140/Ignite_2389/IMG_20111201_204422.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e140/Ignite_2389/IMG_20111201_204404.jpg

So yeah...I have no idea what to do anymore...I just feeding with straight unadjusted tap water tonight which seems to be about 6.8-7 ph.
Also I'm sure you can see how the leaves are growing down and curling under.. I dont whether that is a separate or related issue...

Please Help if you can!

Thank you for your time.
Ben aka Ignitebudz

GaGrown
12-02-2011, 11:38 AM
#14 is very applicable.. When trying to get a plant to live in the manner you expect it to.. You should use this recipe when watering. If your a soil grow.. Water/water/feed. Looks like you have over fed them. Flush them. See how they come around.

Ga.

Ignitebudz
12-02-2011, 07:51 PM
Ok, so I was over feeding her because when I did try the nutes it was every other watering, but the thing is I stopped feeding a long time ago... like 3 weeks.. I've just been straight watering because that yellowing began and it freaked me out so I stopped feeding with nutes but the yellowing continued... could that mean it was somethin else?

CanGroIt
12-02-2011, 07:57 PM
Did the yellowing only continue on the affected leaves or all growth???

If just the older fan leaves....its normal.... Dead or partially dead leaves will continue to yellow and die off with age.... It's the new growth that needs to be paid attention to when problems do arise....

CGI::::::

Ignitebudz
12-02-2011, 08:45 PM
YEah it continued on all growth, leaves die of all shapes, sizes and ages lol. Usually they die on the bottom 2/3 of the plant.

CanGroIt
12-02-2011, 08:55 PM
Looks like you have over fed them. Flush them. See how they come around.

Ga.

:thumbsup:....



YEah it continued on all growth, leaves die of all shapes, sizes and ages lol. Usually they die on the bottom 2/3 of the plant.

GaGrown already gave best advice....

CGI::::::

Ignitebudz
12-07-2011, 03:26 AM
Man you guys rock. Gagrown was indeed right. I flushde her twice over the past 5 days and she looks great...i just wish hsdnt lost those 2-4 weeks of growth The whole thing kind of stunted her.
just wanted to say thank you guys. I love these boards.

I can post up a pic or too of her recovered, a lot of new growth already if anyone cared to see haha

GaGrown
12-07-2011, 03:35 AM
Hell.... You know I do!lol

Ga.