Pushit's PPP

[pushit]

Well this is probably gonna be my last log for awhile. What we have is 4 Pure Power Plant clones. The motherplant came from Nirvana. They were topped awhile ago and now they are patiently awaiting to be Lst'd. Temps have been around 80 w/ lights on and 70 w/ lights off. Humidity has been around 55%. They are vegging under 6500k cfls, currently in 1 gal grow bags, and in FFOF soil. No nutes as of yet. I took 7 total cuttings from these 4 about 3 days ago and cleaned up some of the under growth.. Its probably gonna be awhile before they go to flower so this is gonna be a slow log. Ill probably be lsting them either tonight or within the next couple days so ill update pics when im finished. The first 2 pics are from before the trimming and the 3rd pic is the mother in her last 2 weeks of flower. Any questions feel free to ask. If you see anything i can do better input is greatly appreciated.

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[pushit]

I did a little training tonight. I will probably do more whenever i transplant into 3gal. Still debating on if i should go to 3 or 5 gal. If everything works out right there will be two 400hps over these four for flowering. Well here's a little bondage for ya.

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[pushit]

Well where to start. A couple days ago I did the transplant to 3gal bags. I didnt train them to the new bags til tonight. So the first two pics are before the lst tonight. The third pic is after. Temps dropped down to around 60 last night so i had to put a heater with them considering its suppose to be cool all week. I turn it on when the lights go out.

Now for the bad news. Two branches on one plant got split after the pic was taken. They got pulled a little too hard. First time this has ever happened to me. All i had around to fix them with was some Teflon tape haha. It probably wont do the job but its worth a try. So now its a waiting game to see if it works or not. I usually do my lsting about 30 min. after i water so the plants are a little more pliable but this time i didnt. Im not blaming that (it was carelessness) just letting you know how i normally do it. Well here's the weekly pics.
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[GaGrown]

That tape works like stitches,huh. Better than adhesive tape for sure! You Go!

Ga.

[painretreat]

:thumbsup:Yum, S & M!:jointsmile: pr

[pushit]

That tape works like stitches,huh. Better than adhesive tape for sure! You Go!

Ga.

Man i hope it works. There's alot of budsites on those two branches. Its either gonna work or im gonna have a buttload of clones haha.

[darthcannabis]

That mother's a bite. I shure hope mine grow buds like thouse.

[GaGrown]

:thumbsup::stoned:
Man i hope it works. There's alot of budsites on those two branches. Its either gonna work or im gonna have a buttload of clones haha.

Maybe you could stake that part up,under the canopy. Oh... i just noticed your only 8 posts from 420. Make that post Smoke!:jointsmile:

Ga.

[truepunk87]

Looking nice :)

[pushit]

:thumbsup::stoned:

Maybe you could stake that part up,under the canopy. Oh... i just noticed your only 8 posts from 420. Make that post Smoke!:jointsmile:

Ga.

That teflon is holding everything up at the moment. No signs of stress and the 2 branches are still as perky and green as they were. Hopefully they will make it. Thanks for the heads up on the 420 post.:thumbsup: I wouldve never noticed. Not sure that post will smoke but i can bet that i will be haha

Thanks for stopping in Darth and truepunk:thumbsup:

[GaGrown]

:thumbsup:Yum, S & M!:jointsmile: pr

I know not to have a whip and cuffs around you!lol S&M...


Ga.

[pushit]

Here's the weekly update. Well the good news is the two branches that split are still looking good. I haven't taken the tape off yet but they are looking good. Using cfls for my veg area isnt working out very well with these plants. Not enough light penetration. They work great normally but these are getting bigger than im used to. Some side lighting would be great but hopefully i can get them in flower soon. Running out of room in my little closet. I cant lst them anymore til they go into the flower room for this reason. I have plenty of height just not enough width. I cant wait to put a 400 or 600MH in there. Still getting watered with 6.5ish tap water and still no nutes. Well here's the pics.
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[pushit]

This isnt a grow update. Im at post 420 and since GA told me i had to make it smoking, Here's my 18in doing the smoking for me. Cheers everyone!
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[Weezard]

"Man you dont talk much anymore. haha. You still doing ok?"

One could say the same for you.
I'm jus' fine.
Busy as a dog with three balls to lick, and I have seen fewer threads that I can add anything positive to lately.

To appear to be wise
I limit my replies
to stuff I know summat about.

When I'm not really sure
about the right cure
I jus' watch while dey figure it out.

When I can he'p,
I will do my part.
But, it's mo' reading, dan writing,
dat make a guy smart.

Burma Shave

[pushit]

"Man you dont talk much anymore. haha. You still doing ok?"

One could say the same for you.
I'm jus' fine.
Busy as a dog with three balls to lick, and I have seen fewer threads that I can add anything positive to lately.

To appear to be wise
I limit my replies
to stuff I know summat about.

When I'm not really sure
about the right cure
I jus' watch while dey figure it out.

When I can he'p,
I will do my part.
But, it's mo' reading, dan writing,
dat make a guy smart.

Burma Shave

I agree 100%. Thats pretty much why i shut the hell up haha. But on a serious note between you and Dutch and a bunch of others I have really learned alot. I still have a long ways to go. I just wanted all you to know how kick ass you were:thumbsup:

[pushit]

Sorry i havent updated in a little while. Ive been busy as hell. Tomorrow will make 2 weeks into flower. Ive done a little lst but they are pretty much going crazy. Definitely not an even canopy but itll work. They have been under one 400 but as soon as the other PPP is done with flower, they will have both. Temps and humidity are still the same. No nutes as of yet. Im planning on a feed, molasses, and water schedule. Pretty much gonna just play it by ear. I snuck in while lights off and snapped a couple pics. Well here they are.
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[pushit]

Last night the other PPP got the chop so now these 4 are under both HPS. I decided to trim the fan leaves off of this plant so i can do more taste testing vs leaving the fan leaves on for the drying process. Well here's a couple pics.

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[pushit]

Well today makes day 21 into flower. From the looks of the plants they are about a week behind schedule production wise. The last watering i fed full strength FF Tigerbloom and Bigbloom. The next water schedule will be just molasses and water followed by just water, then repeat. At least this is my plan as of right now. Next week pics will be more close ups.
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[pushit]

Tomorrow makes day 28. Not a major difference IMO. I usually run this strain around 56 days but considering how far they are behind, ill most likely run them 70 days. Ill make up my mind when that time comes i guess. Temps/humidity are still within range. Well here are the pics.

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[kayakush]

lord have mercy!!

[pushit]

lord have mercy!!

I hope thats a good thing;)

[pushit]

Today makes day 35. I just snuck in to take these pics during lights out and judging by the pics its time to water. A little drooping going on. To be honest, I havent really checked on them in a couple days. Not much going on really. They are starting to plump up a little. It looks like they are starting to pack on the trichomes. Time to hook up their heater again. It was 55 degrees in there when i took these pics. We are only gonna have 3 days of cold then back into the upper 60s. Hopefully I can remember about the heater. Well here's the pics.

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[pushit]

Something im working on another thread.
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[pushit]

Today is 42 days. I have them staked up the best i can for right now. They are wanting to fall over everywhere. Once i finish my carts i will put the ladies in them for support. Im planning on flushing tomorrow and feeding. They are looking pretty yellow. I normally wouldnt care cause id be doing my 2 week final flush but im planning on leaving these in there for an extra week, maybe two. Well heres some pics.

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[lulu64]

Hello,

Thanks for your information. It is a big help to a novice like me. Can you explain a bit more about the molasses? Also when you give to Tiger Bloom and Big Bloom do you give them both at the same time?

[pushit]

Hello,

Thanks for your information. It is a big help to a novice like me. Can you explain a bit more about the molasses? Also when you give to Tiger Bloom and Big Bloom do you give them both at the same time?

If you look up the FF feeding schedule for soil you will see how much of each i use during flower. I use the same amounts as the chart. I would post a link for it but i dont want any infractions haha. Google or bing will take you to the schedule. But yes i use both at the same time. The first time i feed i use half strength and the following feeding i go to full strength. That is if the plants look good.
As for the molasses i use either grandma's or brer rabbit molasses that you can get at wally world or a grocery store. Its by the syrup. I will usually add a tsp per gallon of water on the nonfeeding days. Just water and molasses. Check out this link when you get time. It will tell you more than i know haha http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-growing/187784-molasses-sweet-organic-goodness.html

[pushit]

Day 49. Well they are getting closer. Im planning on feeding them once or twice more then ill start doing the final flush. I will be flushing for around 2 weeks with sledgehammer. I made some tables but they were not designed for these plants. They are for my next grow but they are holding these up pretty well. Thats about it so here are some crappy pics. I was in a hurry so they didnt turn out too well.
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[GaGrown]

pushit... Ya said... Go to the redlight... Take a left...What house on the left? Killer!

Ga.

[pushit]

pushit... Ya said... Go to the redlight... Take a left...What house on the left? Killer!

Ga.

Its the one surrounded by razor wire and 6 pits in the front yard. You cant miss it hahaha

[GaGrown]

Its the one surrounded by razor wire and 6 pits in the front yard. You cant miss it hahaha


Lemme blow this dog whistle.. Holy shit! Theres the house.... Damn what a brennel! Jaws like a loggerhead turtle! Why the loggin' chain?lol:stoned::thumbsup::smokin:

[bigsby]

You people crack me up. Are you sure you two don't know each other from somewhere? All the inside jokes and all.

PI - seems we are on just about the same schedule. I'm at day 49 tomorrow. I'm going to flush this week and push them for two more weeks with plain water. Hope I'm not starting too early. I need these to finish up. Gotta get the next round under the screen and get the new starts established so I can head out of town for a few week. I need it all dialed in before I leave so it's just water duty. Got to get my pee facts straight!

[pushit]

You people crack me up. Are you sure you two don't know each other from somewhere? All the inside jokes and all.

PI - seems we are on just about the same schedule. I'm at day 49 tomorrow. I'm going to flush this week and push them for two more weeks with plain water. Hope I'm not starting too early. I need these to finish up. Gotta get the next round under the screen and get the new starts established so I can head out of town for a few week. I need it all dialed in before I leave so it's just water duty. Got to get my pee facts straight!

Damn we should finish around the same time. I still have no clue to when im gonna start flushing. They just are not filling out like they should. When i redid the grow room, i had to set the lights up different and i think it has alot to do with them not filling out. They used to be around 8" away from the girls and now they are over a foot away. Not too mention im wasting alot of light. Cant really finish it up til my shoulder is better. I think i will chop at day 70 regardless haha. So you going on vacation?

[GaGrown]

You people crack me up. Are you sure you two don't know each other from somewhere? All the inside jokes and all.

PI - seems we are on just about the same schedule. I'm at day 49 tomorrow. I'm going to flush this week and push them for two more weeks with plain water. Hope I'm not starting too early. I need these to finish up. Gotta get the next round under the screen and get the new starts established so I can head out of town for a few week. I need it all dialed in before I leave so it's just water duty. Got to get my pee facts straight!

Pee facts...hehe don't I know you?

[bigsby]

I'm having the opposite problem. My buds are pushing out pistils like no ones business. I figured they be slowing down by now but they just keep going. I'm concerned I'm flushing too soon. But travel looms and I have other under the hood that need to get to the flower room plus I need to get my pee facts started so I can leave them for a few weeks - here honey, just follow the schedule... so i'm hoping they finish out in two weeks!

[pushit]

Why the loggin' chain?lol:stoned::thumbsup::smokin:

Thats their bling man. Gold plated. And only 1 dog has a green neck so far haha



I'm having the opposite problem. My buds are pushing out pistils like no ones business. I figured they be slowing down by now but they just keep going. I'm concerned I'm flushing too soon. But travel looms and I have other under the hood that need to get to the flower room plus I need to get my pee facts started so I can leave them for a few weeks - here honey, just follow the schedule... so i'm hoping they finish out in two weeks!

How are your trichs looking? I havent even checked mine out yet. I will try to post a pic of mine come update time. I still havent got the hang of this microscope. Touchy little fucker haha.

[pushit]

Day 56. Fed for the last time last night. From here on out itll be just water with a little sledgehammer. I will cut on day 70. I usually will water my last time about 4 days before the cut. I let them get good and dried out. By the time these finish, all the fans leaves should be either yellow or pretty damn close to yellow. Thats if they are still attached to the plant haha. The trichs are mostly clear to cloudy. Well here's the weekly pics.
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[rattlingdags]

Going great there pushit and nice catching up on your new log :)
On page 1 here you mention planning on doing a taste test on drying with fans on vs leaves off - did you do that? I'm pretty curious myself.

[bigsby]

Going great there pushit and nice catching up on your new log :)
On page 1 here you mention planning on doing a taste test on drying with fans on vs leaves off - did you do that? I'm pretty curious myself.

Second. What was the outcome Pushit? Curious as ever.

Rattlingdags, I was looking at the album you posted under your profile. I saw a bunch of stuff in common. I like the first picture. Do you supplement with LEDs? Just curious. I left a message in the album with some questions. Have a look and if interested respond there because I don't want to threadjack pushits post. Sorry pushit!

[pushit]

I actually have noticed a pretty good difference. My girlfriend agrees so its not just me haha. When this grow is complete i will do it again half and half. Two plants will be dried with fan leaves and all and the other two will be trimmed up nice and tight. Ive been messing around with these two drying methods since last summer. We have noticed that when they are dried with the fanleaves on, the bud as a lot better taste, smell, and its less harsh when smoking. I think it has a lot to deal with it taking longer to dry. They say the longer it takes to dry and cure the better it is and i believe they are right. But different strains, setups, etc could play a major factor. I would highly recommend giving it a try with 1 of your plants your next harvest. If you do, after you compare, please post your results here since this thread is almost done.
And Bigsby, why do you have to threadjack all my threads man? haha just messing around. Dont i know you from somewhere? haha

[rattlingdags]

I think I'll try that too with a couple next time. I'd read the leaves on vs leaves off debate before and was curious as what you thought first hand. I tend to be in the middle and take off all the larger fans, leaving the smaller one's on. For me its more a matter of lack of space so I'll just try a few and see how it goes.

bigsby I've mailed you back via email so hopefully it gets to you.

[pushit]

I think I'll try that too with a couple next time. I'd read the leaves on vs leaves off debate before and was curious as what you thought first hand. I tend to be in the middle and take off all the larger fans, leaving the smaller one's on. For me its more a matter of lack of space so I'll just try a few and see how it goes.


Thats cool. I bet you will like it. That is one thing that sucks about doing it that way. They take up so much more room but so far it has been worth it.

I will flush the last time either tonight or tomorrow. When they dry out itll be time to cut. Some of the pics i took today turned out a little blurry but ill post them anyways. Well here they are in their last week alive haha.
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[lulu64]

Hey Pushit,
I've been reading your log again and have a question. You indicate the number of days as you go along. Is this the number of days since turning on 12/12 or is it number of days from 1st indication of flower or?
Thanks for all your help.:thumbsup:

[pushit]

Hey Pushit,
I've been reading your log again and have a question. You indicate the number of days as you go along. Is this the number of days since turning on 12/12 or is it number of days from 1st indication of flower or?
Thanks for all your help.:thumbsup:

Its the number of days since ive flipped to 12/12. As soon as my timer is 12/12, I consider that the first day of flower. Some disagree. I dont really think it matters either way you want to do it considering if the trichomes are to your liking they get the cut.

[bigsby]

Some feel that tracking the flip from the first signs of pistils is too subjective. I find it gives me another method for tracking development. I note both times in my notes.

[pushit]

Well this grow is complete. Decided to go ahead and cut last night. Left two plants with fan leaves and the other two we cleaned up decent. These are by far the stickiest plants to date. I decided to leave all the undergrowth still attached to the plant. Might just try a reveg. with these four. Dont really know yet. Well thanks for the people that decided to hang out for this grow. Its been fun. Heres some pics of the two plants that got trimmed up. I took a lot of good pics last night but had the wrong setting and none of the pis would upload so i just went in and took a couple today.
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[thermite]

Nice harvest! The buds looks really dense and tight! :jointsmile:

[lulu64]

Hey Pushit
I'm faithfully following your log but have a question about fimming? How often can you do it to one plant, when and how?

[Noob1985]

Ive just read all of your log dude. Great work. I hope after a bit of practice I can too grow bud like this. Thanks for the knowledge. Good luck for the future !

[pushit]

Ive just read all of your log dude. Great work. I hope after a bit of practice I can too grow bud like this. Thanks for the knowledge. Good luck for the future !

Thanks for the kind words. I noticed that these didnt really have the burnt tips i was talking about. Here's a couple pics of my last grow. I pushed these little girls a little hard haha. Now these have some burnt tips haha
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[billydakid6812]

hey I didnt want to post on your log ik its kinda frowned upon but idk how to pm. Anyways I like the way you grow and your style and i want to know when you top your plants for the first time?

[pushit]

hey I didnt want to post on your log ik its kinda frowned upon but idk how to pm. Anyways I like the way you grow and your style and i want to know when you top your plants for the first time?

Its all good. This log has been over for awhile. If I decide to top, it's sometimes around the 5th-8th node. Sometimes ill top when the plant is growing taller than the rest in veg. and I kinda cut the plant to the same height as the others. haha. I have never topped more than once that I can remember. No reason, just never done it.

[billydakid6812]

Its all good. This log has been over for awhile. If I decide to top, it's sometimes around the 5th-8th node. Sometimes ill top when the plant is growing taller than the rest in veg. and I kinda cut the plant to the same height as the others. haha. I have never topped more than once that I can remember. No reason, just never done it.



ok, cool thanks.My last grow was my first time topping I only topped one plant, I wanted to see the difference between topped and not topped. The topped plant yielded me two ounces while the ones i left alone yielded 1-1.5 ounces. So naturally I wanna top all my girls this time around. Thanks for the help

[pushit]

ok, cool thanks.My last grow was my first time topping I only topped one plant, I wanted to see the difference between topped and not topped. The topped plant yielded me two ounces while the ones i left alone yielded 1-1.5 ounces. So naturally I wanna top all my girls this time around. Thanks for the help

I pretty much just leave everything all natural these days but I downsized my grows so I dont really concentrate on yields anymore. I think when i was growing in this setup that I actually got better yields leaving the plants natural and did my final transplant at an angle. I pretty much just tied the top of the plant down and let it grow sideways. It was a faster turnaround with less stress. Just something I noticed with my plants. Its fun to play around with all the different methods.

[pushit]

This is what I was trying to describe.
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[pushit]

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[billydakid6812]

Thats a really good idea, thank you for sharing that with me. I will be trying that with a few of my girls this time around.

[billydakid6812]

I like topping because I love the look of a beastly plant with 6-7 tops. My last topped plant had over 7 tops, I only topped once, so I think I got lucky getting that many, it was just an amazing plant.

[pushit]

I like topping because I love the look of a beastly plant with 6-7 tops. My last topped plant had over 7 tops, I only topped once, so I think I got lucky getting that many, it was just an amazing plant.

They are just fun to grow. I wasnt trying to persuade to grow like i did in the last pics i was just showing that theres many ways to grow these plants. Always keep an open mind. It's just a hobby for me so I try to make it fun and have a good time with it. So do you do any lsting or just top?

[billydakid6812]

I tied last grow, IDK if it worked but they were pretty bushy and had alot of lower and side growth.

[billydakid6812]

can you look at my grow log, I'm running into a problem with some spots idk what it is. I think it may be from my soil being to hot when I planted them, but I want to make sure its not a deficiency.

[billydakid6812]

Thanks