Will World War 3 start soon??

[Anubis10012007]

As most of you are already aware, the US government is blaming Iran for trying to commit terrorist acts on US soil. This in itself can be seen as an act of war. All I know is that if Israel strikes Iran, it will certainly be backed by the US. If this happens, you can expect Russia and China to get involved and will essentially equal World War 3, which is exactly what the Globalists want. Bilderberg in 2011 stated a huge Middle East war is on the top of their agenda.

Of course I believe this whole "terror plot" is a fabricated false flag event. Remember, nothing brings a country out of a depression more than a war.

Anyone think this madness can be stopped? Screw Occupy Wall Street. Occupy Washington!!

[boaz]

and it distracts from gun walker, another act of war.

[CanGroIt]

Wars = Distractions = Opportunities for Governments....

They'll never stop creating crisis' to benefit from the confusion....unless their is a complete power shift....

Did you know that the Obama Administration has placed more debt onto the tax payer(s) than every other president before him, COMBINED!!!??? The tsunami of inflation is around the corner....and a HUGE event such as WWIII could be the catalyst for such inflation to begin....if it were to occur....

All I know is that events that are going to take place before the end of 2012 are going to change the future forever.... Crazy things are happening not only in this country but around the world.... Something big is going to happen....exactly what, we will see....

CGI::::::

[canadianhemperor]

"The Ex-President signed a secret bill that can
Land a legal US Citizen in jail and the
Patriot act stripped away our constitutional rights
They say a Concentration camp just popped up, yeah, right!

Refuse the chip? Ha! Get persecute and beat by the
Tyranny of Mind control, for the mark of the beast
All rights removed, you're punished captured, and enslaved
Believe me when I say, "This IS the Endgame!"

Megadeth rules!!!

[prettygirlsmokes420]

Dude ."America" is just one big monopoly game run by the belief that money is power. And WAR IS BIG BUSSINESS! a lot of countries or big bussiness ppl have money or stocks invested in something called the charslile group, including the bin laddens reletives. The charlile group is a company that largly, instantly like within three days of the announcement of th commencement of war between the two countries, the company had generated over three hundred million dollars. Which means the bin ladebs, the bushes, and whoever else was a member of the charlile group profitted greatly from the us occupying them. But the US was started based on greed and violence. So I think its only a matter of time before it colapses on itself. I mean think about it, we came here with our thirst for gold, and hungry bellies. The natives who were already there fed us and welcomed us. We,in return, gave them blankets with smallpox and other diseases, we shot them with muskets, and we took their land. Karmas a b****. And history continues to repeat itself. It's all a discreet " empire" they are trying to build, different from Nepoleon Boneparte only because we have our heads up our rears and stuck in the tv, nd games and stuff. It's all part of their plan, know that. History always repeats itself...

[CanGro]

As most of you are already aware, the US government is blaming Iran for trying to commit terrorist acts on US soil. This in itself can be seen as an act of war. All I know is that if Israel strikes Iran, it will certainly be backed by the US. If this happens, you can expect Russia and China to get involved and will essentially equal World War 3, which is exactly what the Globalists want. Bilderberg in 2011 stated a huge Middle East war is on the top of their agenda.

Of course I believe this whole "terror plot" is a fabricated false flag event. Remember, nothing brings a country out of a depression more than a war.

Anyone think this madness can be stopped? Screw Occupy Wall Street. Occupy Washington!!There would be "NO" World War 3 at all, as no force would position itself to cause one. If Israel attacked Iran, it would be on its own and certainly not back by the rest of the world. However if America backed Israel in this, then the rest of the world would push that big red button and nuke the US. In the time of the first notification of a nuclear weapon being launched by the US, the following countrys would follow suit and press the button against the US. Russia, China, Iran, Libya & Britain, in fact it would be anyone to the East & West of the US who would launch and wipe the US of the planet.

However this would never happen, as no country would fire nukes on another for fear of instant reprisal, after all most of the world would be wiped out and the rest would be living in nuclear holocost if they some how managed to survive.

[Anubis10012007]

Wars = Distractions = Opportunities for Governments....

They'll never stop creating crisis' to benefit from the confusion....unless their is a complete power shift....

Did you know that the Obama Administration has placed more debt onto the tax payer(s) than every other president before him, COMBINED!!!??? The tsunami of inflation is around the corner....and a HUGE event such as WWIII could be the catalyst for such inflation to begin....if it were to occur....

All I know is that events that are going to take place before the end of 2012 are going to change the future forever.... Crazy things are happening not only in this country but around the world.... Something big is going to happen....exactly what, we will see....

CGI::::::

I too have been waiting for these events and each day we come closer and closer. Personally I'm down on my knees right now, with no job and fighting for my unemployment so I have nothing to loose and death seems only but a gift from God at this point. It's not easy living when you know the truth and your whole family and friends think you're crazy, but I guess thats the price you pay. Than again when the economy does finally crash, the dollar will be worthless and everyone will be in the same boat as me and the rest of the unemployed.

[killerweed420]

Doesn't have to be a world war. Refuse to serve in the rich peoples wars. Its that simple.

[Anubis10012007]

Doesn't have to be a world war. Refuse to serve in the rich peoples wars. Its that simple.

I know there doesn't HAVE to be another world war. Our soldiers need to turn their weapons on the politicians and bankers, the true enemy!!

[canadianhemperor]

no politicians= no lies , no soldiers = no war, no religion= no hate from stupid blinding mind control

[emilya]

It is very interesting to me to notice what has happened to the world lately. We shifted from a position where there was a strong sense across the globe that the USA was the world's police power... and love it or hate it, it did serve as a deterrent to violence around the globe, to this... the apology from the USA and its Nobel prize winning President and a sense around the world that the USA is now weak. Now all the children play. We are even hearing calls of Socialism here in the USA once again.

We went from relative calm with a few hotspots, to all of the world wondering if this is the end of times in what, a couple of years? OMG Anubis... welcoming death over this? Wow. Just wow. Calm down good people. No one wants WWIII. The big guys are not going to push big red buttons over a few miles of sand. If terrible things happen over there, oh well... we tried.

Over here, we have our own problems. Lets concentrate on them. We need jobs. If you feel you must occupy something to get this done, do it. If you feel it must be done with your vote, do that. For those caught up in the mess, its hard. Hang on. Things have to get better. Threatening the bankers and the politicians and the business men seems counterproductive if you are looking for jobs, but if you think that is what is needed, it is your right to say so. My feeling is that with all this call for change here in the USA, we will indeed get some, and I can't help but to think that this would be a good thing.

[killerweed420]

War is a real possibility. It will be another fake one of course but the politicians want something to take our minds about complaining about them not doing there jobs. It will either be Iran or Pakistan. This is what happens when you elect another neocon. People thought they were voting for a liberal but they got lied to.
We've been ordered out of Iraq by the end of the year by the Iraqi president so there's going to be large decrease in defense contractors profits. We'll be remaining in Afghanistan for at least another 10 years and that continues to spill over into Pakistan. SO another war will be needed to keep Halliburton's and there cronies profit margins up. The best way to command these mental midgets in congress and the white house is just refuse to serve. If there's no cannon fodder there's no war. There are better ways to get college tuition money than killing innocent men, women and children.

[HomegrownInIdaho]

just refuse to serve. If there's no cannon fodder there's no war. There are better ways to get college tuition money than killing innocent men, women and children.

Fully man:hippy::clap:

[killerweed420]

It helped in the 60's it can help again.
But realistically as long as we have a neocon in the white house we're going to go to war. The great Nobel Peace prize winner now has us involved in how many wars?
If you want peace try Ron Paul if you're conservative. If you're liberal try getting Dennis Kucinich to run. I would vote for either one even though I'm a libertarian just to have some peace for a change.

[canadianhemperor]

We got to take the power back it's the only way it's gona work. Power to the people!!!!! Abolish the government!!!!

[Jackwidow420]

I had friends that lie to me some of them I later find out made more one lie to me. So my 420 friends I hate to hurt some you but G W Bush said he lie about the war AND that he did not care what we were thinking. We have one lie and he said he did that lie. I ask my 420 friends "How many more lies are there"? Some folks are saying a whole lot more lies were made it just so many believe them to be true. And some are saying the whole show is a LIE. I have never know a liar that made two or three lies. Did the government lie about Cannabis? How many lies were made about Cannabis? Were do the lies stop then? OK you caught me lying but I tell you I will never lie Again that no lie. Believe me I not a liar I only lie once. I live in France and like I have said before System D at it best being done to you if you believe the lies as truths. I say ask more why's to ever thing being told. Why are we at war when it is a lie. Why do some people want death over pain? WHY WHY WHY ????

I not sure of any thing but when Bush said he lie and we still at we one may think we are in the wrong. I am still asking WHY!!!!

[emilya]

why?

[HomegrownInIdaho]

I'm really not a political person. Never have been. I don't have preference towards one party or the other. Although I never supported Bush or the war, I watched the interview on National Geographic channel and it really made me respect him more. Everyone is so quick to judge on a person's mistake they don't stop and go "Hmmm, would I have handled it differently. I for one wouldn't have. The conspiracy is 9/11 was an inside job. I believe that to a point. The stuff I saw on Zeit Geist makes it hard to believe otherwise. Whether it was or wasn't set up, he still did what I would have done. And that is shock and awe the shit out of whoever. What would people have said if he didn't proclaim war. Oh Bush is a pussy (zing!! get it) we should have elected someone else cause they would have called war. I love conspiracy stuff but right or wrong he did what I would have done whether i was involved in a cover up or not.

[painretreat]

I do hope this discussion remains 'friendly': AS I have always found it counter-productive to bite each other's head off, as happens in this section frequently! So, please my friends-lets just speak with our own opinions and sway each other with some facts?? Would like some more information, that is all!

:twocents:
As most of you are already aware, the US government is blaming Iran for trying to commit terrorist acts on US soil. A2007

a:I was not aware of this?pr

"I know there doesn't HAVE to be another world war. Our soldiers need to turn their weapons on the politicians and bankers, the true enemy!! " A2007

b:This statement, I find disturbing. Hopefully, this is "figurative speaking!"? pr

"And WAR IS BIG BUSSINESS! a lot of countries or big bussiness ppl have money or stocks invested in something called the charslile group, including the bin laddens reletives. The charlile group is a company that largly, instantly like within three days of the announcement of th commencement of war between the two countries, the company had generated over three hundred million dollars. Which means the bin ladebs, the bushes, and whoever else was a member of the charlile group profitted greatly from the us occupying them." pgs420

c:Agreed, "War is big business!" Not aware of this "Charslile Group!"


"Personally I'm down on my knees right now, with no job and fighting for my unemployment so I have nothing to loose and death seems only but a gift from God at this point. It's not easy living when you know the truth and your whole family and friends think you're crazy, but I guess thats the price you pay." A2007

d:If you know the truth and arm yourself with "proven" facts, I doubt they would think you crazy. You sound depressed from unemployment or whatever. I do hope you get better, receive your benefits (unemployment) and/or find a job.

". . . G W Bush said he lie about the war . . ." jw420

e:I was not aware that he owned up to it? Just blamed 'faulty intelligence' and would do it again!

"History always repeats itself... "

f:Proven by age!

"Wars = Distractions = Opportunities for Governments...." CGI
e) I would think opportunity for Big Business and 'special interest groups that lobby' and fund politicians campaigns. Which run the Gov't.

"However this would never happen, as no country would fire nukes on another for fear of instant reprisal, after all most of the world would be wiped out and the rest would be living in nuclear holocost if they some how managed to survive. "


e:This is an assumption I agree with. Bush got us in a war, based on "Faulty Intelligence" (which is his excuse and he would 'do it over again'). While we were off to war and "Distracted" he and Cheney passed legislation allowing a new type of mining, called "Fracking"- Hydrolaulic mining for minerals in the Shale of U.S.A. without meeting the EPA standards. As per stated before-Halliburton is making the most $ in Iraq and U.S.A. by this mining. Our air quality standards subverted by being distracted by war! I only recently learned of this mining across our country. AS, seismologist's are saying that removing these resources at a ' pace never seen before' is causing earthquakes in States (like Washington D. C.'s and Maryland's).

This-I am passionate about! We have to re-cycle our plastic, tin and have light bulbs that you can barely read by, for the "environment," yet, big business can take minerals from our Earth and do more damage than we can manage to save!

I would not profess to have the answer. But, I would like to hear more facts.

1)"It helped in the 60's it can help again" kw420
2)"However this would never happen, as no country would fire nukes on another for fear of instant reprisal, after all most of the world would be wiped out and the rest would be living in nuclear holocost if they some how managed to survive. " CanGro

1)I agree with kw420, the '60's changed a lot of things. And some of our young men fled to Canada (thank God for Canada and other countries that gave 'safe harbor'). And the president that pardoned them and allowed them to return home, "amnesty.' Others died in war!
And thank God for those who served and fulfilled their duty! I know of not one person, personally that left the country. AS, I cannot relate to that. But, I did not believe we needed to be in Viet Nam. We (our fore-fathers) fought our own 'Revlutionary War' and 'Civil War' in America! Other countries need fight their own, or pay for help with their own mineral resources!

2) No one would survive in the "long term" CanGro and that is the bottom line.

I believe: We are seeing civil unrest for "CIVIL RIGHTS!" Around the World. We (U.S.A.) are busy in everyone else's business and need to tend to our own store, right here at home.

We've spent so much money and resource's in the civil wars of other nation's, that the financial backbone of America is broken and we want change! And not 1 cent on the dollar we spend seems to be employing our disenchanted and unemployed-the 99%.

We have proven, war doesn't solve anything. Would be nice to see diplomacy work!

Bin Laden was our enemy from the WTC and he is gone. That war was a long way of going about it; but, our soldiers took care of him! I suppose, the only regret is: We did not display his body in a freezer locker for everyone to view, as they did in Libya!

Well, I will post this with trepidation! :rastasmoke: pr

[HomegrownInIdaho]

:S2::postgood:Geezus PR that was quite a mouthfull there would you like to add anything else

[Jackwidow420]

Hey his one site The True Lies of George W. Bush -- A BuzzFlash Guest Commentary (http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/04/02/con04079.html)

I read that he said he lie about the war I look for that link. As I read this he was already out of office mean what said could be lie but I ask why would he lie about lying when he said that he did not care that he had lie. So one way or the other he lie about lying or he did in fact lie. What dose Bush want to be know as? A liar was what I read.

GOOD NIGHT folks it's late here.

[painretreat]

No thank you JW, I am still ducking for 'possible fallout!' But, I would like to have more information on some of the statements, if possible. Hell, I don't have the answers! I am looking for them! I do realize this is a virtual world in here, but I know we have some that know the facts, for sure and can post reliable links to them!

I am only thinking, we need to use our vote wisely this coming election. And I wish I could say I would render my vote to the one that supports legalization. But, the truth is: The candidates will say anything to get elected and realize they don't have much power at all, once in office. they go right then left and center when in office! So, you need to vote on a politician's history! The current one and seemingly the runner ups in the ROP do not seem to have much more! Thanks to all here! pr

[killerweed420]

The short answer is to try to vote for people who have been consistent with there message. Ron Paul has always been consistent over the last 20 years, plus he's a doctor. Its pretty hard to see any consistency on the democrat side. Maybe Dennis Kucinich. The ASA has just brought a lawsuit against the justice department on 1oth Amendment grounds that the feds have no authority in these states unless the product crosses state lines. Will be an interesting case.

[mflb1993]

Yes, the world really is about to end. Pakistan just announced they want the U.S. to abandon a military airbase there. Look's like we're going to go to war with pakistan..and they have nukes don't they?

[prettygirlsmokes420]

That's a bullshittin** story to make it easier for americNs to accept that were gonna invade them next, and try to add them to our "empire". Idk I just think its a crock of shit...
What if the manufactuering of nuclear missules by other countries was a lie made up by the American government, as an excuse for us to bear arms. Lol ;) OR
Maybe everybody else wants nuclear missiles to protect them from the US..were bullies for sure.
But I believe all the lies that America was built on one day will come crashing down, and the entire empire will fall, not just America, but whoever else was involved (not gonna say any names) but they know who they are...
Just call me crazy ;)

[killerweed420]

Its just more signs of our country breaking down into tyranny. When you can have the president authorize assissnation hits on US citizens you have tyranny.
@ways to help slow tyranny. Quit fighting there fake wars and quit investing in there fake economy. Pull all your investments out of the large national and multi national banks and move them to a small local bank or credit union. The banks along the federal reserve are funding these fake wars and fake economies. Make them crash and burn.

[LuLzBoaT]

People really are weak these days......2011 is nothing in terms of "wild times" in America. The 1960's were waaaaaaaaaaay more turbulent with actual political movements (not the occupy morons)....JFK shot, MLK shot,RFK shot, Vietnam, cold war brewing. This is nothing.

With the 30 or so explosions in Iran in the last 2 weeks, and the multiple bumps of its nuclear "scientists", Id say the war has already started.

When will the EU collapse I wonder....cause its coming in the years ahead. Sorry Euro.

[prettygirlsmokes420]

Europe is involve and they started it all,where do you think we came from all those yrs ago? Remember? We had a war to announce our seperation from brittian. Or whatever,... (History was an average subject for me)
All our real problems started when our only truly popular president was assasinated... JFK. He was the last president to be elect purely by popular vote by the ppl of the US. Now the supreme court or whatever (the electoral vote I think, not really sure exactly what the proper word for " a bunch of oldfriends of your father in the courts vote for you" is but its ok) I'm sure you get the point. We are tricked into thinking that we have a say in our elections, the media does wonders for the whole mass hypnotism bullshit. We believe what they tell us and they tell us only what they want us to believe, not the truth.
There are a lot of good movies and documentaries out about all this, and I've watched almost all of them,(at least the good ones anyways).
Money is the root of all evil right?
What do you think our world revolves around?
Think about it.
There was more peace back when ppl were living in small villages, with only what they provided for themselves.
Pilgrims came over with guns, and money, and greed, and diseases...
You know the rest, or at least what they teach you in school....
;)

[LuLzBoaT]

JFK was not the most popular president. He is just the most recognized name because he was killed relatively not long ago in public and had lots of shady characters involved, from the CIA to Carlos Marcella in New Orleans. Remember JFK came into power when there was substantial anti-catholic sentiment in America and up until he was killed he had not had a very successful presidency. Not to mention his family past and current were Drug dealers,bootleggers, and cowards who leave women to drown in cars while they run home to straighten their story. Rip Martha Moxley. Robert Kennedy on the other hand......he had some potential. His biography was far more interesting than Johns.

[prettygirlsmokes420]

I didn't say he was the most popular,
I said he was our last truly popular president.
Presidents of the united states are not chosen by the citizens.
That's what I was getting at.
:jointsmile:

PGS420

[Dutch Pimp]

I voted for al gore in 2000

There no doubt in my mind; that things would be different, now!

I also voted for HHH in '68

[killerweed420]

JFK and Abraham Lincoln had 2 things in common, both wanted a gold backed currency. Quadhfi wanted to change to a gold backed currency. There's a pattern here and it goes a lot deeper than just assasinating leaders. It takes some reading to try and get to the truth. Capitalism as always been the problem and at the root of it is currency. Capitalism quite simply is a vehicle to redistribute wealth into the hands of fewer and fewer people and its worked quite well, particulalry over the last 30 years as the game has escalated. There are alternatives to currency and the manipulation of it to consolidate power. The Venus Project is one of them. As long as we have currency greed will always exist which means more laws required.

[painretreat]

The Venus Project - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Venus_Project)

Zeitgeist: Addendum and The Venus Project hoax : Little Bites of Point (http://www.pointbite.com/2008/10/08/zeitgeist-addendum-and-the-venus-project-hoax/)

[LuLzBoaT]

Al Gore has to be the most annoying and mundane person on planet earth. How many more hacks to people need to see that the UN's research and the scientific community in general are bullshitting the populations of nations all over the world to get more of your $$? There are 1000's more releases coming showing the major education institutes of the world (Harvard,MIT,Oxford,E. Anglia,etc.) falsifying their data and conspiring together to fake and outright makeup stories. All for your $. Nothing else. Look for the hacks to appear in torrents on Twitter.......

[kayakush]

world war three will occur at some point, it is inevitable. the agenda for the bad guys is there. it is all part of a plan. they will destroy nations and call marshall law, suspend rights and do whatever they want. they will be major problems soon so prepare, especially by stocking up on cannabis and water and food. then go get into a cave or underground area.

[LuLzBoaT]

Hasnt there already been 2 world wars already? Dont remember to many Americans living in caves. And the Chinese army isnt going to invade America, our Military and its capabilities FAR outweigh anything the chinese possess. They are still working on missles to sink ships. We have a missle that can be launched from Colorado and hit mainland China in 8 minutes. Tested successfully 2 weeks ago. The only thing I can see maybe happening pretty soon would be the total collapse of the Euro.

[prettygirlsmokes420]

They are still working on missles to sink ships.
I doubt that seriously.
THAT'S what they was u to think.
America is in debt to China.
Bout 4.5 trillion
Id kill for 4.5 trillion fukn dallars! Jk, jk...... . . .
But they ain't worried bout that, were their biggest custos... All our shits from over there
Come on now...

[GaGrown]

I doubt that seriously.
THAT'S what they was u to think.
America is in debt to China.

I heard China owns San Fransissyco.

Ga.

[prettygirlsmokes420]

I heard China owns San Fransissyco.

Ga.
You have no idea, soudi' own almost seven percent worth of America! Tax fuking free!
America must have a guilty consience??? Don't get me started on this one....
;)

[GaGrown]

At least you awake! Rant on,Boo!

Ga.

[LuLzBoaT]

Report: Chinese Develop Special "Kill Weapon" to Destroy U.S. Aircraft Carriers | U.S. Naval Institute (http://www.usni.org/news-and-features/chinese-kill-weapon)

From 2009.....2 years ago. China is a paper tiger. They export garbage to stock on shelves in Walmart....the US leads world in innovation, exports of valuable goods like artificial hearts, IT equipment, and all the rest. Not to mention they are one of the worlds most oppressive regimes. China? Lulz. China will evolve, which will present serious problems for the commies, or they will collapse like the so called "Mighty" USSR.

[GaGrown]

That's a bullshittin** story to make it easier for americNs to accept that were gonna invade them next, and try to add them to our "empire". Idk I just think its a crock of shit...
What if the manufactuering of nuclear missules by other countries was a lie made up by the American government, as an excuse for us to bear arms. Lol ;) OR
Maybe everybody else wants nuclear missiles to protect them from the US..were bullies for sure.
But I believe all the lies that America was built on one day will come crashing down, and the entire empire will fall, not just America, but whoever else was involved (not gonna say any names) but they know who they are...
Just call me crazy ;)


Shhhhhhh... It's a Conspiracy Theory...

Ga.


P.S. You go gurl!:thumbsup:

[painretreat]

:bnd2:O.K. so I went into my friends list to pull up a few 'ole timers' like Billionfold and others I just knew had the balls (and ovaries) for this thread and realized they are ...!!! Now, that I have been there, I am lmao!

On a more serious note. It is my belief that Wal-Mart pays for cheap Chinese Labor and runs their own "sweat shops" in China. Guess Killerweed or Weedkiller might have some info here, idk (so how do you like that ...idk, a new accronym for me)!

I would be hesitant to say China is making all the "heart parts" in China. But, it would scare the shit outta me to need a part! I do know for a fact, valves are made in Huntington Beach, CA and other parts from U.S.A. Now, I am wondering, where the hell Johnson and Johnson fabricated my Two Fake Knees (which should have been my username, cause it was that episode that brought me here! 'Cause they are shivering right now! :rasta: pr

[LuLzBoaT]

War in Pakistan? Doubt it. They already reopened the border to Afghanistan to our supplies and dropped their demand that we shut our drone base. Its just not gonna happen. Pakistan depends on US for to much $$ to change everything over the killing of 24 soldiers as sad or immoral as it may have been. I also find the Iranians showing off a dysfunctional stealth drone that clearly glided back to earth in ONE piece hilarious. They do realize that the stealth tech is almost 30 years old now right? Been using it for years and years. Like I said before, the US is so advanced militarily over the rest of the planet its not even funny. A missle that leaves atmosphere and travels hypersonic and can hit mainland China in 8 mins flat......12 for Australia in a hypothetical situation. Stuff people cant even imagine we have already, and have for years.

The war in Iran started a few years ago with the introduction of the weaponized stuxnet virus thats still eating the Seimens Co. equipment thats in Iranian nuclear facilities. And the 8 or nuclear scientists who have been car bombed or simply vanished. Stuxnet was truly an amazing virus.....genius in its code. Computer geeks can see it.

[prettygirlsmokes420]

W.e. the only reason were over there is to steal their goods cuz Americas fucking greedy.
I have a friend who's over there right now, says he guards the convoys as they travel with "goods"
Said he couldn't tell me what the goods were... Hmmmm.
but it must be something valuble if there's a war over it...
Open your eyes to the tyrrany and cartels America was and is still built from.

[GaGrown]

It's a War on Drugs? You know they are transporting heroin.. Poppy all over the country-side.. Part of the GREED cycle,maybe?

Ga.

[Its a Plant]

Check out on youtube the Vice Guide to Travel: North Korea for an interesting documentary on what's really going on. That entire series (which goes all over the world) will really open up your eyes and make you realize there are much bigger problems going unaddressed than our "Occupy" movement in the States.

[prettygirlsmokes420]

I wonder.... If you were to take the radar systems that the troops use, and pick it up, will it say "made in china" on the bottom?
Hmmmm...
I wonder what other information sources we rely on that was made in cgina?
How do u know u can trust them? Remember, we owe them trillions....
They know what there doing, they runnin a great game on America.
Ugh its so frusterating how ignorant Americans are....
Im not proud to be an American,
Shit I tell ppl im fuckin irish (im partially irish).
Lol ;)

[Esteban1]

Hmmmmm;


I believe NOTHING that I see, read in the mass media


Sic Semper Tyrannus



:abduct:

[prettygirlsmokes420]

Sic Semper Tyrannus



:abduct:
What does that mean?

[rollzone]

hello. there will be no WW3. the onset of winter is shrinking your brain, and poisons the government puts in our water and food are accumulating in detrimental thoughts. put on a warm hat, and get a little exercise.

[Esteban1]

"Thus always to tyrants" = DEATH TO TYRANTS

[kayakush]

What does that mean?

latin for "thus always for tyrants" "down with the tyrant"...supposedly after killing Julius Ceaser

[GaGrown]

I wonder.... If you were to take the radar systems that the troops use, and pick it up, will it say "made in china" on the bottom?
Hmmmm...
I wonder what other information sources we rely on that was made in cgina?
How do u know u can trust them? Remember, we owe them trillions....
They know what there doing, they runnin a great game on America.
Ugh its so frusterating how ignorant Americans are....
Im not proud to be an American,
Shit I tell ppl im fuckin irish (im partially irish).
Lol ;)

I knew you were a cute lil' Leprechan! Wearin' all that GREEN! Change my luck?

Ga.

[stelth stoner]

hey dudes, check out the documentary called "mind the gap" about the 7/7 bombings in london, this doc blew my mind and really opened my eyes, the world is not what you think.

[LuLzBoaT]

Death to Tyrants!!

[silent leprechaun]

Take a look a this: Anonymous - Message to the American People - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrXyLrTRXso)

[silent leprechaun]

Oppps, posted twice ! Internet is slow and I thought it didnt go through !

Take a look at this guys and gals. See how for your freedom stretches these days.
The illusion of freedom is just what it is. The US government has fooled you all into believing that there are enemies everywhere.
Thats how they will strip you of your freedom. Soon the US will be like China and Russia, picking perceived enemies of the state off the streets never to be seen again.
You will soon have no voice and the the gun restriction policies are already in motion. You will be silent and barely armed in the next 30 years.
Gun control legislation has been passed by Hilary "power hungry" Clinton.
Have a look at this video:

Anonymous - Message to the American People - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrXyLrTRXso)

[prettygirlsmokes420]

Is it true? I heard something on fox news about a vote on Marshal Law??
Wtf is really good?
Doesn't that send red flags up in your head , cuz it does mine?
I will try to find the video, but I'm incompetent online sometimes...
So if someone else finds it before I do, plz post it!!
It was on fox news and it was w white guy talking to the lady (sorry, vague, I know. Lol there's a lot of white guys on the news!;) )
Now you can be sure we have no control...

[painretreat]

There is an article in The Tucson Citizen press about: Woke Up this Morning to Marshall Law in America. . .

Tried to post, but link did not! Search the Citizen
Last night, the Senate, 93-7, passed the National Defense Authorization. I chose the Christian Science Monitor (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2011/1203/Guantanamo-for-US-citizens-Senate-bill-raises-questions) as my source, as it’s usually fairly conservative. If even these guys are worried about your sixth amendment rights, maybe you should be too. The upshot of this bill is as follows:
Legislation passed by the Senate this week and headed for the House – and a possible presidential veto – could allow the US military (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/U.S.+Armed+Forces) to detain American citizens indefinitely.
The National Defense Authorization Act (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/National+Defense+Authorization+Act) covering $662 billion in defense spending for the next fiscal year includes a provision requiring military custody of a terror suspect believed to be a member of Al Qaeda (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Al+Qaeda) or its affiliates and involved in attacks on the United States (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/United+States).
A last minute amendment allows the president to waive the authority based on national security and to hold a terror suspect in civilian rather than military custody. But the bill would deny US citizens suspected of being terrorists the right to trial, subjecting them to indefinite detention, and civil libertarians say the amendment essentially is meaningless.

Holy Unconstitutional Imprisonment, Batman!
And, as I read further down the article, I realized that for the first time, I agree with a Tea Party position without irony or snark.
This coming Monday, a tea party group plans to protest in Sen. McCain’s home state.
“When it comes to personal liberty and violation of every citizen’s Constitutional rights, Republicans (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/U.S.+Republican+Party) are willing to take a stand against one of their own if a major mistake has been made,” says protest organizer Jeff Bales, a member of the Pima County (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Pima+County), Arizona, Republican Executive Committee.
“‘Innocent until proven guilty’ is essential to our legal system and American way of life,” says Mr. Bales. “The Senate Armed Services Committee’s legislation violates fundamental values. It is unconstitutional and must be defeated. We cannot allow America to go further down the road of becoming a police state.”

Is today Backwards Day? Nope. It’s an astonishing opportunity for Occupy and Tea Party folks of Tucson to get together and set one, concrete, objective goal, and agree publicly not to deal with each other on issues of dispute. Imagine if these two groups, falsely set by the media as opposites, were to join forces in response to one violation of American rights that they both recognize. Imagine how the establishment would be freaked if the two fringe groups, that can be dismissed and set against each other, swallowed up the demographic pie-chart in a brand new color. Imagine how it would look in the plazas of America. Everybody looks good in purple.
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

There’s your Sixth Amendment, folks- and the implications of its suspension are horrifying. The first thing that could happen would be a wholesale sweep of Occupys across the nation, just ’cause they noisy & stuff. There are those who would cheer, and say “Yay, dirty hippies off my lawn!” But once that wheel is greased and turning, what’s to stop it from turning on Americans you agree with? Or you?

First they came for the communists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist),
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_unionist),
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews),
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

wikisource (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came…)


Let’s put aside all the ideological horse-hockey and come together to agree that the Government does not get to throw people in jail indefinitely just because it suits their agenda.






More in Pol. & Govt.:
Where have all the angry children come from? (http://tucsoncitizen.com/tired-tucson-teacher/2011/12/10/where-have-all-the-angry-children-come-from/)
Read It » (http://tucsoncitizen.com/tired-tucson-teacher/2011/12/10/where-have-all-the-angry-children-come-from/)

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[prettygirlsmokes420]

Wow, I've got fucking goose bumps. I had no idea about all that!
Thanks pr, that was quite spot to type!
;)

[painretreat]

Sorry, I copied it cause I couldn't get the link to work and then shoved it all in at the last minute. My typing sucks worse, you'd recognize it. But, all the saem, interesting. The problem with TV is, they can say anything. Like, Verizon seems to think they have the best coverage and AT&T boasts the same. I don't subscribe to them, use pay per use and just use their lines, cause the prices are unreal...use the same provider with the carrier for less $ !:jointsmile: pr

[LuLzBoaT]

Take a look a this: Anonymous - Message to the American People - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrXyLrTRXso)

Anonymous is broken into a thousand different groupings with a thousand different views and goals. It was totally hijacked and amongst the "free info" and "lulzy" type people....its a total joke now. Until about Dec. 2009 Anon was an independent collective....then was hijacked and manipulated into what you see today. White Hats vs. Black Hats.....Anon is dead. Most actual social engineers behind it have been Ddosed and had their actual identities revealed. Thats game over in Hack world.

[rollzone]

hello again. odd that people remain interested. Ron Paul declared the Patriot Act unpatriotic. Ron Paul declares government is controlling behavior. Ron Paul has been fighting for liberty for 30 years. Ron Paul will fight to shrink government. the 1%, (of which the WalMart barons own 30% of America), continue the strengthening of domestic police to shield themselves from their customers. they live as if insulated from the public. they own Congress. they need to scare you into continuing the debt crisis they have created. occupying them will be useless. to not murder them, we must vote in Ron Paul- and begin the process of jailing the criminal elites working the Beltway and Wall Street. the third world war is over mind control. if you allow their propaganda to determine your mind, because you no longer think for yourself- they have won. when the media blitz of television and newspaper journalism convinces you of a point of view, you are just puppets on their string. they will use you to further their agenda. we have to work, or the economy will crash. we have to get government out of the economy workplace, or we will crash. heed the call, and vote Ron Paul. give crony capitalists a ticket to jail. legalize the prohibition. abolish the diabolic agencies, czars, and plutocracies of this administration- with a vote for a genuine patriot:)Ron Paul !_!

[killerweed420]

We are already at tyranny my firends. Obama already ordered the assassination of 2 Amerikan citizens and followed through. This latest bill is just a continuation of the theme. The police are now using drones in some of our major cities, cellphones are tapped with absolutely no legal control, they randomly shoot people while kicking doors in with no knock warrants. There is no doubt that we are now at Orwell"s 1984.
Here's my peaceful recommendation. If Ron Paul gets elected he will not live to the end of his term. So time for a new party. Do what the youth of Sweden did, start the Pirate Party here in the US. You have the numbers and are very mobile and educated. Start a pirate party with the platform that you want your candidates to run on and then start mobilizing your troops to get every voting age kid registered to vote. Usuall only about 30% of us adults vote so you guys could really put up some impressive numbers if you work together. Through that party you force change.
The only other real option will end violence, people will die. It might end up that way anyways because the rich and powerful do not like there power questioned. There will be a Kent State incident certainly before the end of next summer and that is likely to turn the whole movement violent. They WILL declare Marshall Law, though at this point the way they have passed unconstitutional laws they no longer need the marshall law to squash the movement.
Be careful out there. This is not your grandfathers Amerika.

[LuLzBoaT]

Its just that so many young people so stupid and uneducated.....can't do nothing without mommy and daddy helping, or a handout here and there. Good luck getting US kids to vote....the statistical #'s never change.

People say Obama never survive as president too? He survive. Not very talented, but he live on and make lots of $$ when he retires. Harvards, Columbias,Oxfords,Dartmouths, are not like they once were, go to class, write notes, you pass Harvard now too.Dumb it way down since 60's.

[prettygirlsmokes420]

A little off subject to what ur talking about lulz... But I wanted to share.
I've seen a very good documentary called "Bloodlines" it describes in perfect detail and with evidence, who the enimy really is here, and who they have really ben for 2000 or so yrs now.
I can officially say I'm amazed at how much things have been twisted around to the American ppl.
I can't really explain it very well but I reccomend it highly to those who have curiosities about religion and what we've been taught about Christianity for thousands of yrs. What else are thet lying about?
In the movie, the ppl interview a priory of scion member, and he lies to their faces multiple times. First about being in The priory, then about the discovering of tomb... I won't give the movie away, but I was riveted through the entire thing... Very interesting. I don't think its as simple as the movie makes it out to be though, its way bigger than that. But it shows you, they are covering up something, and will kill to keep it hidden..

[GaGrown]

Amen! Amen! Good Lord Almighty! Amen,Amen!

Ga.

[williboy]

So many threads, so little time, but i found this one today, so... WWIII? Perhaps and perhaps an astroid strike or a polar shift or many other possible causes for the extinction of man. Anybody remember something called MAD? It stands for Mutually Assured Destruction, a policy of the D.O.D. which relies on the fact that you couldn't sink all of our nuclear subs, and just one of them would destroy your whole day besides your whole country. Does anyone else besides me think we have painted ourselves into a hell of a corner? The whole time I 'sailed' around in that nuclear sub I thought that I was defending democracy, but I believe now we protected the status quo. What I have come to realize is this country is no longer a democracy, control by the many, but a plutocracy, control by the money! Elected leaders who don't do the will of the people are no better than the dictators and despots. BUT... ya there's always a but, it is still up to each of us to be as kind as we can to each other. That's where the real Golden Rule is, not the one where, if you have the gold, you make the rules. I think that's how we got here in this very uncomfortable place we find ourselves. No question I too think that we are heading for some very hard times ahead, but remember how hard it is to drain the swamp when you're up to your ass in alligators, so plan ahead, no kidding.

[Trip06]

Plan ahead? its kinda a joke really...cause If you wanna really think about it...If all hell breaks loose(really breaks loose) then The people who survive are either gonna be the farmers or the hillbillies living back off the land..and far as I see it there Are WAY more people than there were 100+ years ago...I read books on the DNR and conservation and during and after the Great depression(when we had Alot fewer people in the country, And most were farmers) We still hunted the whitetail deer to near extinction levels. It took the creation of the DNR and 40 some years to bring the deer back. There just inst enouf resources If the system shuts down. Millions upon millions of people would starve to death. Cannabalism would be Very wide spread. Very few people these days are self=reliant compared to say back in the 20&30's. Those who are would be over run. If the trucks stop running in this country for one day even, the whole system goes under thats how fragile it is. IMO the only way you would survive is In the mountains and well supplied. Im moveing to Spokane Wa next year To hell with where im at now.

[Trip06]

Its gonna be bad no doubt.

[LuLzBoaT]

Everyone have a puff and toast the death of Kim Jong of N. Korea. Tell the Devil I said Hey when you get back to where you from. Death to Tyrant.281043

[Dutch Pimp]

For only $19.95+s&h you can be a member of the Hit Team....:wtf:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGNEuu4PJRU

[stelth stoner]

ha ha ha justice coin whats it made of? fool's gold should be called rape the rest of the world and look innocent coin can't wait to see the invade iran coin collection

[killerweed420]

For only $19.95+s&h you can be a member of the Hit Team....:wtf:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGNEuu4PJRU
Its valued at $99 but for this once in a lifetime deal its only $19.95.lol
I love infomercials when I'm high.lol
Thats the one little tidbit of information that the masters of the universe don't want you to know about cannabis. It allows you to think outside of the box and see how hilarious a lot of our manufactured problems have become and how easy they would be to fix if someone would just take the blinders off.

[stelth stoner]

01/01/12 and it looks like its going to kick off in iran, america stikes again,


free palistine

[MEDEDCANNABIS]

There would be "NO" World War 3 at all, as no force would position itself to cause one. If Israel attacked Iran, it would be on its own and certainly not back by the rest of the world. However if America backed Israel in this, then the rest of the world would push that big red button and nuke the US. In the time of the first notification of a nuclear weapon being launched by the US, the following countrys would follow suit and press the button against the US. Russia, China, Iran, Libya & Britain, in fact it would be anyone to the East & West of the US who would launch and wipe the US of the planet.

However this would never happen, as no country would fire nukes on another for fear of instant reprisal, after all most of the world would be wiped out and the rest would be living in nuclear holocost if they some how managed to survive.

in theory, anyways.

[stelth stoner]

with all the nuclear subs and missile defence networks i think we'd all be wondering who fired what, some are better prepared for war then others and they know it, lets not forget buttons are made to be pressed

[DrWalter]

This video will give you a better idea of who the nuclear threat is Nuclear Explosions Worldwide - Since 1945 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6M6Iq9wyTE)

[stelth stoner]

fuck me i had no idea that many were tested, makes you wonder whats really causing the ozone layer depletion

[killerweed420]

01/01/12 and it looks like its going to kick off in iran, america stikes again,


free palistine
The only way it will kick off is if the mossad or the CIA kick it off first. keep an eye out for false flag events.
Iran has no wish to close the strait and they won't unless they are attacked first. And I really doubt Israel will do it because it will mean suicide for them.

[DrWalter]

fuck me i had no idea that many were tested, makes you wonder whats really causing the ozone layer depletion
it is scary for sure, I think since 1985 it is required that all test be performed underground but that is really doesn't do much to ease the mind

[LuLzBoaT]

01/01/12 and it looks like its going to kick off in iran, america stikes again,


free palistine

Free Palistine? Lulz. Arafat would roll over in his grave reading that.

[LuLzBoaT]

Free Syria. Bashar gonna get Ghaddaffid soon lulz.