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prettygirlsmokes420
10-08-2011, 06:11 PM
I'm using a thousand watt high pressure sodium bulb which is well over two feet from the plants.I have a two by tree foot enclosed reflector that is attached to silver ducting and an online fan, which pulls air through my carbon filter. My thousand watt light is on a 12&12 schedual as my plants are flowering. My medium is soil, sunshine mix #4, wich has no muted in it at all. I feed my plants their bites manually and seperatly. I'm using Advanced nutrients sensi bloom parts a and b. Also in the upcoming week ill be using overthrive and cotton candy as well. The plants are in five gallon buckets, I got them small and they were in cubes either rockwool or Pete Idk. I'm watering them with R.O. water because my tap.water is horrible with high iron. It comes out the filter with a ph level of about seven.I use a digital ph pen to check my ph. I'm using advanced nute ph up and down. I got them on a feeding schedule of one ounce of nutes per four gallons of water. I add calmag when needed. I don't have a specific watering schedule I flood them out, then let them dry up again and repeat...yes the ph in my tap.water varies by Sean but my r.o. system keeps and chems keep it stable for me to feed my plants. My ph when I feed them is six point three. Ivenever tested my runoff water b4. I use spray n grow on a weekly basis, I spray them when the lights r off. Obviously I grow indoors. The room is seven ft wide twenve feet long and eight feet high. When the lights r on, the temp is 79 to 82 degrees with humidity at about sixty percent. When the lights r off the temp is 75 to 78 degrees with humidity at about fourtyfive fifty percent. I have no bugs or no sighns of bugs. And my strains are sativa, their clones and not autoflower. Pics at Flickr PGS420.

mickrick
10-08-2011, 07:00 PM
keep ya ph between 6.5 and 7.0, im not 100% sure but is sensi grow/bloom not a hydro feed?.

prettygirlsmokes420
10-08-2011, 07:10 PM
It's versitile I was using sensi grow parts a& b during veg. Both nutes grow nd bloom r both versitile.

prettygirlsmokes420
10-10-2011, 04:11 PM
It says on the Advanced nutrient website that soil needs to be sixpoint three. And I want to know what's wrong with my leaves, not am I using the Right nutrients, my plants are more than healthy. I have the room half and half, running advanced nutes in one side and something completly diff. In the other. The advanced nutes side is well outgrown the other side. But like I said two of the plants leaves on the advanced nute side the leaves r weird looking, so I was looking for advice.

WashougalWonder
10-11-2011, 12:41 PM
Over fertilization. Those damn nute schedules are for the company to make extra money. Chill on the nutes, you will taste them in the end product.

MEDEDCANNABIS
10-14-2011, 08:18 PM
Over fertilization. Those damn nute schedules are for the company to make extra money. Chill on the nutes, you will taste them in the end product.

no doubt there. i tried an expensive line up and got nothing but problems. keep it simple and get your quality harvest.

prettygirlsmokes420
11-09-2011, 03:54 AM
Yet again, my leaves are acting up, not about to retype the whole troubleshooting form so here's the pics, nothing about my growing has changed, except for I've been flushing them every other watering with no chemicals.

GaGrown
11-09-2011, 04:12 AM
It's versitile I was using sensi grow parts a& b during veg. Both nutes grow nd bloom r both versitile.

Keep this as simple as ya possibly can. Lemme suggest another route to take as far as your nute go,that your using.

Botanicare products are simple as well as productive in the end result,BUDS!:jointsmile:

Replace that cal-mag with unsulphurd mollasas.Same results. This came from a Gent that taught me a buncha shit!

Ga.

GaGrown
11-09-2011, 04:48 AM
I'm sorry,but that is really a bad situation. I don't know if you can turn that around! It does just look like the top of the plant. Chemicals ain't gonna help that for sure.

Ga.

CanGroIt
11-09-2011, 06:33 AM
PGS420 - I think your first mistake was your choice for medium.... Sunshine Mix #4 is not for newbies.... Sunshine Mix 4 is almost like a hydro application....because you as the grower have to give it the essential nutrients at proper rates needed for proper growth....

IMO, you should start over with FFOF....or FFHF if you want to add nutes.... If you went with a soil like the FFOF, you could veg in a 2gal pot and flower in a 5gal and probably not ever have to worry about feeding....

Just some food for thought....or you can keep doing what you're doing and expect different results....but that might drive you insane....

CGI::::::

bigsby
11-09-2011, 04:32 PM
You can absolutely save those plants although you may have stressed to the point of hermie. If it were me here is what I would do.

1. Flush with 3x pot volume. 3 gallon pot needs 9 gallons of water although You can get away with 7 gallons... Check soil pH at runoff with the first gallon and adjust pH upward/downward if need for remainder of the flush. Check again at the end.

2. Straight water for 7 - 10 days. No nutes.

3. Once you see healthy new growth you can resume feeding @ 1/4 recommended strength. The burnt/damaged leaves will never recover.

prettygirlsmokes420
11-09-2011, 05:28 PM
Could it be my light? Because I don't have quite as much space between my light and my plants. It's not a dramatic difference, but there's only about just over a foot of space between them. I was thinking about just clipping the tops off all of the bad looking ones, but tuere in budding and I don't wanna lose potential meds. I pulled three of them already, they were too bad to try and save. I'm going to buy a co2 tank and meter today because I don't think the bucket I baught is putting much off. It also doesn't help that I sort of over did it. I have fourtyeight plants, myself and three patients worth. One half of the room is fox farm soil with only floranectar as the nute. The other side is my advanced nutrient side as I described at the top. When the distortion started it was one one plant one each side, two plants total. Don't know if this info helps but hopefully...here's some pics of what they looked like when it first started a few weeks ago.

bigsby
11-09-2011, 06:46 PM
That's a bit close to be sure. The first concern is heat. If you are venting the light well then it may not be an issue. Others will know better. You can also find the answer in the lighting stickies. You could LST or SCroG to reduce height although that plant count would make it pretty labor intensive.

MEDEDCANNABIS
11-09-2011, 10:05 PM
Could it be my light? Because I don't have quite as much space between my light and my plants. It's not a dramatic difference, but there's only about just over a foot of space between them. I was thinking about just clipping the tops off all of the bad looking ones, but tuere in budding and I don't wanna lose potential meds. I pulled three of them already, they were too bad to try and save. I'm going to buy a co2 tank and meter today because I don't think the bucket I baught is putting much off. It also doesn't help that I sort of over did it. I have fourtyeight plants, myself and three patients worth. One half of the room is fox farm soil with only floranectar as the nute. The other side is my advanced nutrient side as I described at the top. When the distortion started it was one one plant one each side, two plants total. Don't know if this info helps but hopefully...here's some pics of what they looked like when it first started a few weeks ago.

that looks hormonal. i had a similiar issue which cost me a season. i had spent several hundred dollars on a nute line only for it to wreak havoc on my product. co2 and lighting wont fix that. flushing ...might yet most likely they will die. if you can, put them outside for a couple of weeks and flush. for some reason outdoors and cloning seem to cure a lot of problems for me. good luck:thumbsup: end result keep it simple, ditch the adv nutes until you know enough to understand it.

prettygirlsmokes420
11-10-2011, 12:08 AM
Thanks will do. I have been flushing them every other watering. I think I'm gonna chop the top parts off, because the bottom half of the plants look fine. There not hermies, there in flowering; the middle of week three to be exact. I'm super crushed this happened to them, they were doing so good. Live and learn from your mistakes I guess, I just need to find out what my mystake was for sure; the toughest part of all. :) oh yeah, what do you mean hormonal? And I can't put them outside unless I wanna have some jack frost, lol its cold here ;)

bigsby
11-10-2011, 04:42 AM
oh yeah, what do you mean hormonal?

You know, they get all bitchy for no particular reason in a way that keeps you ducking for the rest of the day...

Do you really mean you flush them every other water? 3x water : pot volume? Don't do that. You're washing any goodness out of your soil.

prettygirlsmokes420
11-10-2011, 06:29 AM
It's not 3x pot size worth of water seeing as I was unaware of that. But I have a few things I'm about to change so, hopefully it won't happen again. And next grow I'm not gonna buy cheap clones, I've got some seedling mother plants and I'm doing my own clones so I know the quality. Plus I know how to clone properly so the roots take quickly and thoroughly, you never know how the person you got them from did them. Plus next time ill be doing less plants, bigger pots, and more light. But I'm going to flower a tad bit earlier too so they are not so close to the light. The track will be uninstalled because ill have two lights, so i can take the lights up another few inches... Sorry I'm thinking aloud now. I just want to try to eliminate the negative variables, ya know? So as to avoid all possible problems, hopefully... Im still learning ;)

GaGrown
11-10-2011, 12:20 PM
You know, they get all bitchy for no particular reason in a way that keeps you ducking for the rest of the day...

Do you really mean you flush them every other water? 3x water : pot volume? Don't do that. You're washing any goodness out of your soil.

All the buffering qualities of the soil will be depleted!

Ga.

bigsby
11-10-2011, 01:00 PM
Yeah, get the watering right. You don't want to over do it. It sounds like you are dialing it in. Your next run will be much more rewarding. It's good to go with the same plant for the second run as you will know it's characteristics, needs, and wants.