Pushit's White Rhino attempt

[pushit]

Basically what im working with is 4 White Rhino clones. They are in FFOF, 1 gal grow bags, under cfls, and no nutes as of yet. The temps are 79 degrees with lights on and drop to around 70 with lights off. Humidity is around 60%. What im gonna attempt is to top, lollipop, and maybe a little lst if needed. My goal is to have 4 colas per plant and nothing else. All four were topped about 3 days ago.

Ive seen this done before but i have never tried it. I dont really care for the WR phenom that im working with so im popping more seeds to find a better mom. So what better clones to torture haha. I have around 30 days before i have a free 400hps so this should give the clones plenty of time to heal. This grow is gonna take longer than usual cause ill be letting the plant heal a little in between cuttings.

Im not expecting much from this grow. Im just having a little fun and playing around a little. If you have any questions feel free to ask. If you want to criticize, keep it to yourself:D Just playing. Criticize away.


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[pushit]

I made about 4 or 5 cuts to each clone tonight. I basically just hacked away at the clusterfuck of new growth at the bottom. Im gonna wait a week and finish cutting them up while taking a couple clones since my last WR seeds are not looking very promising. Thats what i get for planting all the good looking seeds first and leaving the worse ones for last :D So in one more week all i will have left on the clones is the top 4 budsites and some top fan leaves.

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[Weezard]

Alright!
I'll hang around and learn sumpin if ya don't mind.278286

Aloha,
Weeze

[pushit]

Alright!
I'll hang around and learn sumpin if ya don't mind.278286

Aloha,
Weeze

Dont you know its hard for the student to teach the teacher. :D Your worst buds will put my best buds to shame anyday!

[pushit]

Thanks for dropping in Dutch and Weezard:thumbsup:

I decided to post a pic of my Pure Power Plant to show kinda what ill be doing to the bottom half of the plants. Im thinking im gonna add silica blast to their next watering to try and help with stress issues. Hell its just sitting in the room never being used so why not? haha.

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[Esteban1]

Hey bro:

For some odd reason I have been locked out of the forums. Think that there has been some issues with the server? Will attempt later today with some more questions. FYI.... Just ordered the "Foxfarm" trio pack & a "PH" meter. Hope that these items make it a little more predictable.

[pushit]

Just seeing if i can add pics again. [attachment=o278323]. Damn i was hoping it wouldnt be an attachement
I will update this grow tonight when lights come on if the pic deal is fixed by then.

[pushit]

Well tonight i did a little trimming. Each plant only has 4 budsites now except one. I couldnt determine which one i wanted to cut so im gonna let it go a little longer and see which one has grown the most. Next week i will start a light feeding with FF nutes and try a little bondage to attempt to have everything even. The first pic is from when i topped. Second pic is what the stem looks like now. Third is a group top shot and the last pic is some of the cuttings I decided to save.

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[swismis17]

I have had a hard time trying to clone. Do you have a cloning machine? Any advise? I do not have a cloner yet, have just been trying with a humidity dome with cuttings in water onlyl.

[pushit]

I have had a hard time trying to clone. Do you have a cloning machine? Any advise? I do not have a cloner yet, have just been trying with a humidity dome with cuttings in water onlyl.

I use Rapid rooters, ph6 water, and Clonex. Its actually pretty easy. The main two things i think will make or break you is temperature( mine are usually around 85 degrees) and being sterile when you take your cuttings. I usually mist the dome a couple times a day(not the cuttings). When i do the misting i will leave the dome off for around 10 min each time. Thats pretty much it and hopefully in a week or two there will be roots. That just how i do it.

[pushit]

As for a cloning machine, tonight was my girlfriends time to do it so she was my machine:D We try to alternate doing everything so we both learn:thumbsup:

[Rusty Trichome]

Im thinking im gonna add silica blast to their next watering to try and help with stress issues. Hell its just sitting in the room never being used so why not? haha.

Use care, and check the ph. My Silica Blast came out of the jug at 10.5 ph. Silica Blast MAY have helped with heat stress issues, but it also stunted the plant. (smaller leaves, shorter branches, looser buds...) Even though I live in the desert...I still have 90% of that gallon left. Not worth using if it causes more problems than it solves.
Is it (the PPP) rootbound...?

[pushit]

Use care, and check the ph. My Silica Blast came out of the jug at 10.5 ph. Silica Blast MAY have helped with heat stress issues, but it also stunted the plant. (smaller leaves, shorter branches, looser buds...) Even though I live in the desert...I still have 90% of that gallon left. Not worth using if it causes more problems than it solves.
Is it (the PPP) rootbound...?

Hey Rusty, glad to see you back:thumbsup:

I used about a 1/4 teaspoon of the Silica Blast in a gal for the WR clones that im cutting the hell out of haha. A real small amount. After adding Blast and ph down the ingoing water was 6.6. Next watering im gonna do the same again along with a little FF nutes and a good spray down with Serenade. After my first grow im paranoid as hell about pm so everything in veg usually gets the Serenade hose down every couple weeks. I have yet to see it again since ive been doing this (knock on wood).

The PPP was transplanted from one gal to 3 gal around a month ago. She only has about 3 weeks left. I have been doing my final transplant around 2 weeks into 12/12 and have not noticed any bad affects doing this. I checked trichomes last night and shes about 25% clear and 75% cloudy. Next week i will start the final two week flush on her. I hope she bulks up a little. Heres a couple pics of her from last night.

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[rattlingdags]

I'm pulling up a chair to watch :smokin:. White Rhino was a strain I was looking at trying myself in the future if I want a change of plant. So I'm curious if you come across any quirks or preferences they may have. Have you decided how long are you going to veg them for? They're looking healthy and happy :)

[pushit]

I'm pulling up a chair to watch :smokin:. White Rhino was a strain I was looking at trying myself in the future if I want a change of plant. So I'm curious if you come across any quirks or preferences they may have. Have you decided how long are you going to veg them for? They're looking healthy and happy :)

Hey rattlingdags

I think im the wrong person to ask about WR. Ive been unlucky on the phenoms i ended up with. Someone with more experience than i have would probably do alot better. Basically what im trying to say is dont judge WR by this grow by no means:D It produces some pretty good smoke.

As for the length of veg time im not really sure. Im pretty much just waiting on room in flower. Like i said, with these 4 plants im just playing around. Im trying different things that ive never done just to see if i like anything that i can start doing with my fav strains.

[Dutch Pimp]

I have only grown Nirvana White Rhino; one time in 2005. It liked to branch out and would have worked great for SCROG methods. Crippling high.

There used to be a member here named Eskeetro. The pic below is his. White Rhino was his thing...:thumbsup:

[rattlingdags]

Thanks for the pic DP, he really did a most impressive job of training that plant. Beautifully even. Yep I think it would be a nice strain to try one of these days.

[omnibuddy]

Thanks for dropping in Dutch and Weezard:thumbsup:

I decided to post a pic of my Pure Power Plant to show kinda what ill be doing to the bottom half of the plants. Im thinking im gonna add silica blast to their next watering to try and help with stress issues. Hell its just sitting in the room never being used so why not? haha.

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You could also try adding some Superthrive to the water. It works miracles on stress.

[pushit]

You could also try adding some Superthrive to the water. It works miracles on stress.

Hey omnibuddy

Thanks for dropping in.:)
I actually have a bottle collecting dust in the corner of the room. I might play with it a little if the Silica Blast doesnt do the trick. As of right now the little ones are doing ok with no signs of stress so ill let them be. Thanks for reminding me that i actually have it around:D

BTW thanks everyone for all the replies and helpful things to watch out for. Im always up for new ideas and suggestions. The way i see it is a person cant get better without experimenting from time to time. Plus judging by the quality of people that have popped up on here so far, there's alot of knowledge that can help me or someone viewing this. Thanks again:thumbsup:

Hey Dutch,
How did you get that pic you posted to show up as a pic instead of an attachment like my pics have been showing up?

[Dutch Pimp]

Hey Dutch,
How did you get that pic you posted to show up as a pic instead of an attachment like my pics have been showing up?

I just went to 'manage attachments' as usual. The site is full of bugs; lately. Check all your user CP edit options.

Go Advanced...Use the preview feature.....:D

[pushit]

Well tonight i did a little bondage to the ladies. Im probably rushing things along a little fast. Its better to give them at least a week in between procedures but i have alot to do to them before they flower. The first pic is a close up of what i did and the second is a group shot. Its gonna be alot of work to get all 8 colas even. Only time will tell if im able to do it or not.

I tried uploading these pics several different ways but i still cant get a pic to show up. Ive been all over my user cp and everything looks ok. Oh well i guess everyone will have to click on them.

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[GrowingInGeorgia]

I'm kinda peeking in from the corner over here to see what I can learn. I'm 3 or 4 weeks into my first attempt at a low budget grow and working with VERY limited funds. 2 are sickly, one's trying to get started good and one i had to pull and reseed due to some yellowing on the leaves, starting from the bottom that killed the plant. With my luck that will have been the only female in the bunch. Oh well. Stuff happens. But it seems the info is free here, although well above my head.

Now if I could just find the coffee pot!

[Dutch Pimp]

Now if I could just find the coffee pot!

third floor, on the left, in the basement...:thumbsup:

[pushit]

Well a little update. Its looking like its gonna be a longer veg period than i thought. I guess more time to torture the little ones :D
Im thinking about topping them again. I know that its not a part of my original plan but i tend to change my mind alot. Let me know what you guys/gals think. Heres a couple pics from tonight. The first one is my ghetto veg closet and the second one is the group shot.

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[Shovelhandle]

I pinch the shit outta my babies... they love it.

[PhatJay]

I have been growing WR for a while now and overall I really like it as a strain. I started off growing it from cuttings and made myself a mom, but I also bought some WR seeds from Greenhouse because afaik they were the original breeders. I had very poor results from the seeded strain (low yield, poor quality/taste and a ridiculous amount of stretching) I tried over several grows to find out why and I still don't know (the two strains were growing side by side). The clone WR is lovely, good yield, great smoke and stays compact with strong stems.

I am going to be really interested in the reults you get. Do you know the origin of the WR you are growing?

[pushit]

I have been growing WR for a while now and overall I really like it as a strain. I started off growing it from cuttings and made myself a mom, but I also bought some WR seeds from Greenhouse because afaik they were the original breeders. I had very poor results from the seeded strain (low yield, poor quality/taste and a ridiculous amount of stretching) I tried over several grows to find out why and I still don't know (the two strains were growing side by side). The clone WR is lovely, good yield, great smoke and stays compact with strong stems.



I am going to be really interested in the reults you get. Do you know the origin of the WR you are growing?

I got these seeds from Nirvana. I have had nothing but problems with this strain. The mother that i took these clones from is in flower right now. For some reason this is the only plant that is having some severe clawing issues with the leaves. The last one i flowered did the same thing and i have money that says these clones will do the same. It doesnt affect the bud. It just doesnt look pretty haha. Dont get me wrong its more likely to have something to do with the grower rather than the strain. Im pretty much gonna cut WR from my grows and concentrate more on the Pure Power Plant and Blackberry after this grow. All depends on my seedlings of corse. After taking some pics tonight im seeing a phos def. Most likely from a lockout so gonna flush with sledgehammer and resume feeding after she dries. Heres a couple pics of the clones mother.

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[pushit]

Well i havent been paying much attention to the cuttings. I finally checked them today and they all rooted. Dont really know what im gonna do with them yet especially since the original plant is popping nanners. As seen in pic from last post. I picked about 6 off the plant but theres most likely a lot more that i cant see. Im still gonna flower the ones in veg but probably just gonna trash all the ones in the cloner. [attachment=o278526]

[SmokeMyPiece]

Ya I see nanners, bummer man.
-I flowered one out before, trying to pick them off as I seem em.. Seemed like they multiplied, so Im unsure about picking; almost damned if you do, damned if you dont.

But on the other hand, that bud looks awesome :thumbsup:
-Also, do you keep em well N-fed in veg, those plants were very dark green?

[pushit]

Hey Smoke

Actually they have only been fed maybe 3 or 4 times their whole grow so far. If that many. Tiger, grow big, and a little molasses.

Im not really worried about the nanners. Just pick them off as i see them. Wouldnt mind a couple seeds to have around anyways. Im pretty sure its from some unseen stress so the seeds should be fem. Im pretty much just killing time with these clones til my hopefully female seedlings are ready to be cloned.:thumbsup:

[pushit]

I went ahead and chopped the WR that was in flower. Way too early but oh well. As for the clones, they have been pretty neglected this week. Ive been busy as hell with work. I need to make up my mind what i want to do to them. 2 weeks max they will be in flower. I just dont know whether i should go with my original plan or top the hell out of them. Any suggestions would be great. Well here is a quick pic of what they look like now. If i decide on the original plan i will do a little more lst if not they will be beheaded. [attachment=o278616]

[Dutch Pimp]

They look great. Was the original WR seed mom a fem seed?

[pushit]

They look great. Was the original WR seed mom a fem seed?

Thanks Dutch:thumbsup:

Nope just regular seeds. So we will see with these clones if the mom was stressed to the point to pop nanners or if its just the phemon. Either way I will either have some decent bud or some good cannabutter. A win win situation. Ive been wanting to try to make cannabutter so this just might be my chance :D

[Dutch Pimp]

How many clones is that?....9?...Mom got scalped....:D

[pushit]

How many clones is that?....9?...Mom got scalped....:D

Thats all just 4 clones from the bottom of her. The two bags you barely see on the far left is my PPP and Blackberry seedlings.
[attachment=o278619] They are about to be topped soon. Im gonna clone the tops and see if they are male or female. Hoping for some females since im pretty much out of seeds now. But thats gonna be a show at a different place:thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

Those look great. let them grow.

[pushit]

My bad Dutch i think i got confused haha. Were you talking about in the cloner? Yea there was nine in there but they can from 4 moms. The original 4 plants in this thread. I think i did two from each and three from the other. Something like that. I think im cluttering this thread with crap that doesnt pertain to the original 4. It will tend to get confusing but i like these threads a little lively since im always on here. So i like to throw in other things time to time that im working with.:thumbsup:

Thanks Shovelhandle. Hopefully they will be good smoke.

[Bobthis]

I like readin anything, new or old, from you and the other experienced growers, so feel free to clutter it up. If you run outta room, clutter my thread. I learn alot readin what you guys have to say. Keep it commin!

[Esteban1]

Bro:

I'll follow you to the end of time. You got the green thumb. Hats off...... Also a great teacher!:pimp:

[pushit]

Thanks Bobthis and Esteban for the more than kind words! You guys are great!

Tonight i transplanted into 3 gal grow bags and started 12/12. The temp is running about 78 with 55% humidity and they were watered with plain 6.5 tap water. This was the worst transplant that ive done in a long time. I had them in the 1gal bags for too long. The roots grew all up in the folds of the bags which made it a bitch to work with. I should let them recoop for a week in veg to get over the shock but running out of room so here we go. I have been running regular HTG hps bulbs since ive had these 400wt lights so i decided its time to upgrade. I ordered the Hortilux Eye and replaced the bulb above the WR. The other bulb will be replaced when the bagseed are done. The first pic is of the 4 little girls with their new light on and second is with the light off.

[Bobthis]

Dont thank me, thank your congressman.... Hahaha. Looks good man. Def hope to get results like that when I migrate indoors.

[Esteban1]

I look at this pic every day now & feel like Pavlovs Dog..... SALIVATE:rastasmoke:

[pushit]

Last night i did a little more lst to try and get the canopy more even. Not going very well so far but oh well. The leaves are already starting to hook but they are gonna get alot worse if they take after their mother. Gonna be some decent cannabutter hahaha. In a couple weeks im gonna throw the 9 clones in. Gonna be a miniSOG. Then thats a wrap on the WR and im gonna have all my focus on the PPP and Blackberry. First pic is my even canopy attempt hahaha and second is just another top shot. From here on out itll be just weekly updates. Thanks for checking it out.

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[CanGroIt]

Last night i did a little more lst to try and get the canopy more even. Not going very well so far but oh well. The leaves are already starting to hook but they are gonna get alot worse if they take after their mother. Gonna be some decent cannabutter hahaha. In a couple weeks im gonna throw the 9 clones in. Gonna be a miniSOG. Then thats a wrap on the WR and im gonna have all my focus on the PPP and Blackberry. First pic is my even canopy attempt hahaha and second is just another top shot. From here on out itll be just weekly updates. Thanks for checking it out.

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Nice Log pushit....


CGI::::::

[Esteban1]

Nice & GREEN

Sweet & Sexy

[pushit]

Thanks CanGroIt and Esteban.

Well i think its been a week so i went in and took a couple shots while the lights were out. My original idea pretty much didnt work the way i wanted it to so im just letting them grow now. No need to waste time on a phenom that i dont like haha. Well here's a couple pics. I apologize for the horrible looking plants.

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[pushit]

Well here's the weekly update. I think they are 18 days in flower. Hopefully around 40 more days to go. I didnt catch them before lights on so i tried to tilt the hps away the best i could. The next grow log i do will be with good strains but until then ill keep updating this one. Well here's the pics.

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[n00b]

Nice looking plants and log!

[pushit]

Thanks n00b:thumbsup:

I forgot to mention that i have not gave any nutes as of yet. Ive been meaning to but im not seeing any deficiencies so im just adding 6.5 water. I might start a little molasses their next watering but still not sure yet. Ill just play it by ear. The weekly update isnt due til Wednesday so ill show what ill be growing next. Its Pure Power Plant that ive topped and lst'd. Not sure what ill be doing to the clones right now but i have plenty of time to think about it. She's 18 days into flower right now. Same everything as the WR in this log. Well heres a couple pics.

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[pushit]

Another week down and the curlettes are still kicking. The curling leaves are irritating me but i knew they would before i started this grow so i might as well suck it up and quit crying about it haha. Once im done with flowering itll be time to redo my room again. Time to prepare for our little winter that we have down here. Im pretty much gonna have it set up so i can have warm or cool air pumped into the flower room. Something i shouldve done the last time. Well here's some pics.

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[Esteban1]

Nice shade of white & green

Any Discipline?


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[pushit]

Nice shade of white & green

Any Discipline?


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Thanks Esteban.:thumbsup:

Any discipline?:confused:

[pushit]

Well here's the weekly update. I believe they are around 32 days in. I still havent fed them but they are starting to show some def. so the next watering everything is getting fed. They will get fed a half dose of tigerbloom and grow big. Temps and humidity are still good. I took these pics a little while ago today when the lights were out.

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[Bobthis]

Lookin good man. Cant wait to see em once they fatten up a bit!

[GrowingInGeorgia]

Dont really know what im gonna do with them yet especially since the original plant is popping nanners. As seen in pic from last post. I picked about 6 off the plant but theres most likely a lot more that i cant see.

Pushit... bear with me here. I'm not familiar with the term "nanners"...

Elaborate please if you don't mind...

[GrowingInGeorgia]

third floor, on the left, in the basement...:thumbsup:

Ya know... you can be a pretty sick puppy. Where's you find that sense of humor? I want one!

[MEDEDCANNABIS]

Ya know... you can be a pretty sick puppy. Where's you find that sense of humor? I want one!

you can purchase humor and laughs through meded.com and life will be good again. its approximately $20 per laugh or joke:thumbsup:

[pushit]

Pushit... bear with me here. I'm not familiar with the term "nanners"...

Elaborate please if you don't mind...

Nanners will pop up when a female is stressed too much during flowering causing it to hermie. Could be results from all kinds of things like light leaks, high temps, or sometimes it can be genetic. Basically if you leave them on the plant they will open up releasing pollen and in return will put seeds in all your bud. As far as i know there are three things you can do when it happens. Cut that plant early, try picking the nanners off the buds (which is almost impossible to get them all), or you can just let them go and have seeded bud. There's also something out there called Reverse thats suppose to help out if this happens but i have not used it so i cant recommend it. Here's a pic of what im talking about. Its circled in black.279824

[pushit]

Sorry for slacking on this log lately. The curly sisters are still kicking. Around 45 days in. Im really hoping i can kick them out of the flower room in about 2 weeks. They are gonna be too early but like i said when i started this log that its all going to be edibles. I have all kinds of recipes ive been wanting to try for a long time so this is gonna be my chance. Plus i really need to get my PPP clones in there. I will do a log of them on here when its time to start flower. The pics im posting tonight is a closeup of the WR and one of the younger PPP. You tell me which one youd rather have in flower haha.

279927 WR 279928 4 days younger plus lst'd during flower haha

[pushit]

Well its looking like they are getting cut earlier than i thought. I found a couple nanners on them plus i found some on my mini sog grow. So im still thinking the original mom for all of these wasnt stressed to hermie maybe just the phenom. Im probably gonna give them all a good flush tonight and hack them when they are dry. Almost time to put some real plants in flower. Ive been slacking on cloning the PPP in veg cause we had a good cold front move in. I will probably clone and start lsting when i get back in town Monday. Well here's some pics of the 9 clones that came from the original 4 in this thread.
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[Dutch Pimp]

I wouldn't sweat the nanners, personally. The pollen may be sterile.
There's probably not enough time to produce seeds...IMO.
I would harvest when normal....IMO.
I could be wrong....:stoned:

[bigguy1977]

just wanna say that dutch pimps advice sounds good to me,never really thought about it, but the man have to be right!!!!
not enough time for seed development.... so keep going and see it out is what ill do.
GOOD LUCK AND TELL US WHAT YOU DECESION WAS:thumbsup:

[pushit]

Im not really worried about seed production. Im worried about pollen. I have other females in flower at different stages and i would be highly pissed at myself for screwing them up haha. Dont get me wrong thats great advice if that was all i had in there. Good looking out Dutch! Your advice is always welcome here man.

[Esteban1]

It's All Good

[Esteban1]

Sorry for slacking on this log lately. The curly sisters are still kicking. Around 45 days in. Im really hoping i can kick them out of the flower room in about 2 weeks. They are gonna be too early but like i said when i started this log that its all going to be edibles. I have all kinds of recipes ive been wanting to try for a long time so this is gonna be my chance. Plus i really need to get my PPP clones in there. I will do a log of them on here when its time to start flower. The pics im posting tonight is a closeup of the WR and one of the younger PPP. You tell me which one youd rather have in flower haha.

279927 WR 279928 4 days younger plus lst'd during flower haha SMOK'N

[pushit]

Well the time has come for these to get the boot. I decided to listen to Dutch and leave them in an extra week.:thumbsup: They got pulled tonight. They dont look very good but as soon as they dry itll be time to try and make some edibles. Im actually excited about trying some recipes. Im starting another thread of the PPP grow if anyone is interested. It should be way better.Well here's a couple pics of the end result. Thanks for checking this out and have a good turkey day.
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[Dutch Pimp]

harvest early = dry longer...IMO

I cut some early WW recently and dried 10 days. I didn't dry long enough.

The weed would tar up and not burn.

[GaGrown]

harvest early = dry longer...IMO

I cut some early WW recently and dried 10 days. I didn't dry long enough.

The weed would tar up and not burn.

That what ya using in ya recipe? That blacktop weed? Don't take me wrong.. Pimp


Ga.

[GaGrown]

Im not really worried about seed production. Im worried about pollen. I have other females in flower at different stages and i would be highly pissed at myself for screwing them up haha. Dont get me wrong thats great advice if that was all i had in there. Good looking out Dutch! Your advice is always welcome here man.

You need them seeds to get the pollen.. Right? Need a male to collect from.

Ga.

[Dutch Pimp]

That what ya using in ya recipe? That blacktop weed? Don't take me wrong.. Pimp


Ga.

Same recipe as I have used for the past 6 years. These seeds have gotten too old. I think the genetics is shot. Time for fresh stock; that is on order.

I let their 2 sisters go another 3 weeks & dried for 14 days. The early results are promising...dried but not cured.

[GrowingInGeorgia]

... and have a good turkey day.

You have good one too there Pushit and watch out for the drunks on the road.

Be safe!
GiG