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tank18
07-21-2011, 01:02 AM
hi all, ok heres the deal im 22 years old and i recently went in for an interveiw and it went great until he told me i was rquired to pass a pre employment drug test and if i could i had the job, i pretty much knew that if i took it and failed my chance of getting that job was gone,so, i looked him dead in the eyes and said im going to be completely honest with you and i told him that i wasnt able to pass a drug test at this time because i was at a party on the 4th of july and smoked part of a joint with a friend and that i could eventually pass one because ive only used socially in the past(i lied to him on that part cause ive been smoking every day 4 to 6 times a day for the past 3 or 4 years and dont think i cld get clean in 3 months which is when they are hiring again,i weigh 240lbs and rarely excercise anymore thats why i have my doubts,plus i love to smoke)anyways, he looked at me and smiled and said ya know its not uncommon for people to smoke pot but i cannot do anything with u at this point,and then he said but since u was honest about it and didnt waste any more of mine or your time i will give u a second chance and he told me to watch my email and make sure i can pass next time i apply......... ive been researching dilution and its out of the question i dont want to even attempt it. so ive been researching the whizzinator or the urinator and am wondering who has used these to pass and really how effective synthetic urine is or even the devices themselves are. but the problem i am having is paranoia because im so worried that there gonna check me for something like that before i piss or have someone watch me or have me drop my pants to make sure im trying to cheat . i only have one chance to get this job and really dont have the time to get clean, i need all the help and support i can get on this issue because its really stressin me out thinkin about what im gonna do every day and if its all for nothing,i need to know if i invest in one of these products do they actually work and the probability of them actually checkin me or watchin before i piss,any info is greatly appreciated,thanks

Burnt Toast
07-21-2011, 01:12 AM
Before you consider taking any subbing measures, pick up a home THC test and test yourself to see where you actually stand.

When testing yourself, be sure to use the first urination of the day.

If you test negative with the first urination, youre good to go. :thumbsup:

If you test "dirty", then go ahead and sub.

It is really not neccessary to use an artificial delivery system like the Urinator, etc... Pre-employment tests are unobserved unless you have been suspected of tampering.

Read up on the Substitution "sticky" thread for subbing tips.

tank18
07-21-2011, 01:36 AM
forgot to mention that i havnt smoked for a week and took a home dt and failed.have been reading that for some it can take up too or longer than 90 days to get clean depending on how u smoke and i am a heavy smoker i dont have that amount of time to try n pass the right way. and since i was honest about not being able to pass and admitted it wouldnt that be a reason enough to check me or give them suspision that i might try to cheat it when i do try? or am i way to paranoid about the whole situation lol. i will def read his thread.......thanks

Burnt Toast
07-21-2011, 01:51 AM
since i was honest about not being able to pass and admitted it wouldnt that be a reason enough to check me or give them suspision that i might try to cheat it when i do try? For starters, you were being honest to your prospecting employer, not a specimen collector, isnt that correct?

You definitely are being paranoid. Relax. As long as you dont show up at the testing facility with "cheating contraband" dangling from your shirt pocket, or otherwise exhibit any behavior that indicates intent to tamper, then you wont be suspected of tampering.

And when submitting your sub sample, it is important that you make sure the temp is in the proper range of 90-100F. If the sample is not within the proper temp range, then the collector will order an immediate re-submit and under direct observation (the observer must be the same gender as the donor, as per DHHS regulations - no exceptions!). The collector will then process and send off both samples and indicate on the test forms "Remarks" space that a direct observation collection had taken place and the reason(s) why.

When subbing, it is advisable to do "practice drills" at home using warmed water in place of urine. Practice with maintaining temp, pouring, etc.

The key to pulling off a successful sub is PRACTICE.

tank18
07-21-2011, 02:40 AM
yes thats correct he was just interveiwing me but i wasnt sure if i was going to have to take the test there or if if i would have to go somewhere to take it,i thought they were more strict on the temp like 96 to 98F or so ive been told around where i live.

Burnt Toast
07-21-2011, 11:36 AM
i thought they were more strict on the temp like 96 to 98F or so ive been told around where i live. Under DHHS regulations, the acceptable temp range is 90-100F. But for good measure, do keep the sample cup in the 96-98F range.

tank18
09-18-2011, 04:45 PM
i am 2 months and 6 days clean now and i have another pre employment drug test tomorrow,i bought a first check home test and with the second void of the morning after not drinking anything for 8 hours this is what it shows a very faint line so do u think its a pass it says a faint line is still a pass but idk .maybe if i drink a 32 oz gatorade tomorrow about an hour or 2 before i go take the test do u think ill b ok?

Burnt Toast
09-18-2011, 10:39 PM
so do u think its a pass it says a faint line is still a pass but idk .

Like it says, a faint line is still a negative.

yenomz
09-20-2011, 03:49 AM
I'm surprised they actually gave you a second chance. You should be fine though.