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Hello if you don't know ever since I started dual booting Mandrake 10.1 this past year I have become a sort of Linux finatic. I now dual boot XP and Kubuntu, but it wasn't until tonight that I actually gave thought into trying KNOPPIX which is a Linux distribution that can boot and run from one standard CD. It is a great thing to try if you are looking into trying linux for the first time. It is very easy if you can manage to download one 700MB ISO image and burn it to a CD-Rom and configure your computers BIOS to boot from your CD-ROM drive (to do this, you usually press the delete key as your computer is booting up, you know when its telling you how much memory is in your system. that will usually put you into the BIOS) then apart from that its just a matter of getting a feel for linux and the KDE graphical user interface. To download the ISO visit http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/ I will also attach some eyecandy remember this is all booted from one 700MB Cd-R (no installation required!) Hope everyone gives it a try.
stoner spirit
05-03-2005, 10:01 AM
is this more effective than windows is?
LOVElife
05-03-2005, 12:34 PM
Couldnt get used to anything but Windows
hardon
05-03-2005, 01:08 PM
is this more effective than windows is?
oh yeah, linux runs waaaay smoother than windows does, partly cuz windows is a bloated pos and partly cuz linux is open-code (everyone has access to it = no bugs, no hidden shit)...only problem??? most software isnt compatible for linux (although this is changing)....
is this more effective than windows is?
It sure is, depending on what you are doing. For simple word processing, surfing the internet, instant messeging ect. I use Linux, I only choose windows when I wan't to play counter strike. Also take in the fact that you won't be needing to waste time running virus scans and spyware scans while using linux.
NextGen
05-03-2005, 04:23 PM
thnx Oman. I think I'll put this on the other computer.
Lurker
05-03-2005, 05:21 PM
http://www.ubuntulinux.org/
n click it on ship-it free cds.. got my copies a week ago took 2months though but it's nice got a live cd like knoppix n install cd too..
What's the point of running an operating system from a CD? I guess just to sample it? Does Mandrake do all of your partitions for you to run a dual boot, or did you have to make your initial partition with partition magic or something like that with 10.1?
BTW yeah less software written for linux compared to windows, but also more spyware, viruses, popups, etc.
hoodedclum
05-04-2005, 03:30 PM
I think its just like running it on a slave drive, so linux boots from the cd in the cd rom rather than the hdd, maybe im wrong ?
Saves you having to install linux on ya drive i think thats the main point, daul booting windows and linux from the same drive can be a bit dodgy.
Lurker
05-04-2005, 04:09 PM
What's the point of running an operating system from a CD? I guess just to sample it? Does Mandrake do all of your partitions for you to run a dual boot, or did you have to make your initial partition with partition magic or something like that with 10.1?
BTW yeah less software written for linux compared to windows, but also more spyware, viruses, popups, etc.
i keep live cds just in case something goes wrong with windows like it won't boot or keeps on restarting to retrieve important files.. n yes just to sample them too.. :p
clevemire
05-04-2005, 04:59 PM
I installed Mandrake (for the first time) on my current PC about a year ago. After configuring the drivers and what not, everything seemed to work fine, but everything also ran HORRIBLY slow. It couldn't have been my PC, cuz I'm running an AMD XP 2600+ operating at 2.13GHz w/ 512 MB RAM. On this machine, XP can run several memory hogging programs without a single hitch. I couldn't figure out why Linux was running so slow for the life of me, so I took that bitch off of my hard drive. I may give it another go sometime, but I don't know.
Windows works for me. As long as you ('you' in general) aren't careless about your web surfing and installation methods, you don't really have to worry about all the viruses and spyware and whatever other overhyped crap there is.
Mello.as.Hello
05-04-2005, 06:39 PM
There's a much easier solution here.
There's a file called Windows-Xp "Lite", which is a stripped-bare version of xp. The graphics, sounds, etc.. everything loads up from drivers and is based on your hardware configs, but you avoid all the clutter winxp brings. No virus scans, no startup programs, not even a registration key while you're installing it. (that's right, you pay NOTHING and you never will). This is WAY better than a live-cd linux, because here you can actually store things, and retrieve them reliably, and you don't have to make the switch from windows to linux. It's a free download, it's an iso image, and it works.
I can't quite remember where I downloaded it (Marijuana effects the memory) but I will find it soon, if someone else doesn't first.
This is WAY better than a live-cd linux, because here you can actually store things, and retrieve them reliably, and you don't have to make the switch from windows to linux.
I don't think your allowed to use "reliably" and "windows" in the same sentence. I do believe that there is a way write to you NTFS hard drive with knoppix, but I haven't experimented with it much. It auto mounts the hardrives so having access to my music is basically all I need when I'm playing around with it, or I'll just decide to boot kubuntu. As far as making the switch from windows to linux (or OSX if your lucky :D ) is something that everybody should do sometime in there life. Quoted from a user on the scopetech.net forms "microsoft has a evil monopoly and plans to take over the world using sucky software to enslave us."
There's a much easier solution here.
There's a file called Windows-Xp "Lite", which is a stripped-bare version of xp. The graphics, sounds, etc.. everything loads up from drivers and is based on your hardware configs, but you avoid all the clutter winxp brings. No virus scans, no startup programs, not even a registration key while you're installing it. (that's right, you pay NOTHING and you never will). This is WAY better than a live-cd linux, because here you can actually store things, and retrieve them reliably, and you don't have to make the switch from windows to linux. It's a free download, it's an iso image, and it works.
I can't quite remember where I downloaded it (Marijuana effects the memory) but I will find it soon, if someone else doesn't first.
NOt familiar w.xp lite, but this is what I meant aboutlimitations in running an OS off a CD. I wasn;t talking about install cd;s, that you keep on file.
clevemire
05-06-2005, 01:59 PM
Is it a copy, or at least similar to the 'XP Lite' that Microsoft has been sending to less.. eh.. 'refined' countries (for lack of better words) to combat Linux? If so, I think most people would like to be able to run more than 3 programs at a time.
Etrain
05-06-2005, 04:53 PM
Omun, which cs do you play? 1.6, Cz, or source? Let's play sometime. Peace man.
I play Cz and I'm pretty bad, but that doesn't stop me from trying
lateralus
07-03-2005, 07:24 AM
What's the point of running an operating system from a CD? I guess just to sample it?There are *many* uses for a live CD. First of all, it can be used to sample Linux for skeptics, or people who think it's too 'hard'. Another use for it is when your os refuses to boot or something, in which case you can toss in Knoppix, or Slax, (or whichever distro has a live version) and fix the problem. I've also heard of servers which were cracked, or crashed somehow, which needed a live CD to bring the server back up quickly in a time of crisis. Live CDs are also good for people who *refuse* to use Windows, so they carry around their CD everywhere they go. I could go on.
mono repin
07-03-2005, 01:08 PM
... lots of missinformation here. I love linux don't get me wrong... but it is not the cure all. To say you don't have to worry about viruses is bogus. In fact writing viruses is much easier for linux. I have written several for research/educational reasons, however I can't write windows viruses. The reason windows has a bigger issue, is because more people are running windows and it is a "nicer" target for the virus writer. Also, almost all windows systems are setup in a similar way. By its nature linux has no "standard" configuration. To say it is bug free is bogus... I'm not even going to get into it, but just read linux bug fixes.
Again, not trying to put linux down. I love it to death. I just hate to see people blindly plugging it without really knowing whats going on. It's just like people thinking there is no downside to weed.
... knowledge is your friend, and NOTHING is perfect.
GHoSToKeR
07-03-2005, 01:27 PM
I've thought about using linux before because Windows XP pisses me off something terrible, and since we got XP on our family PC it has been the most unstable piece of shit ever. I can hardly play any PC games on it anymore, I have all sorts compatability issues with different software and hardware, it runs slower, and is just an all around piece of shit. I can't even change the resolution of my screen anymore!
The only problem is that I wouldn't want to always boot from a CD (I dunno why), and it's not only me who uses this PC, and I fear I would be the only person able to get to grips with it (it's taken my mum long enough to get to grips with Windows, and every time I change a background she gets confused and thinks i've broken it.. lol). So for now i'm going to stick to Windows until I get a new PC myself (something much faster, too :)).
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