Statewide Legalization

[COMMJ419]

If this new iniative passes...what will happen to dispensaries? Will they become like liquor stores for ganja? Why is the amount you can have regulated? I can buy $1000 worth of liquor but not marijuana... What kind of regulations will be put in place to keep places like 7-11 from selling it?

I hope the pro-legalization people can help answer these questions because this is the next step, but maybe too soon?

[HighPopalorum]

There might be more than one initiative. Today, however, the proposal by SAFER/MPP-Sensible goes to the citizens for signatures. In very broad strokes, MJ would be sold to anyone over 21 in stores regulated similar to dispensaries. My guess is most dispensaries would want to convert to serve the broader market in the event of legalization. Under this proposal, pot could not be sold in other stores. Some of the other ideas floating around do not contain regulatory language - in the event one of those becomes law, the legislature would write the regs, as they did for our MMJ program. Either way, I think we end up with something like our current MMJ for everyone over 21. There will be some arbitrary possession limit - I believe it is an ounce in this proposal. I have no idea how or why they settled on that amount.

And no.. not too soon... eighty years too late.

[Zedleppelin]

It will create 12 new laws and get rid of one.

[HighPopalorum]

Who cares? If this gets on the ballot, vote for it. If CTI/Legalize2012's gets on the ballot, vote for both. Just vote! We live in a state where you can literally sit on your couch smoking a bowl and vote by filling in bubbles! When asked about the issue by friends on the fence, don't be partisan, as we are here, but emphasize the common positives: state revenue, elimination of cartel/gang dominance, social justice, better appropriation of law enforcement resources etc. The California initiative failed, partly because many pro-marijuana activists voted against it. We shouldn't let that happen in Colorado. If the ten or fifteen or twenty of us who read this board agree to bury all the hatchets and support any marijuana liberalization proposal, it will make a difference.

[denverbear]

Who cares? If this gets on the ballot, vote for it. If CTI/Legalize2012's gets on the ballot, vote for both. Just vote! We live in a state where you can literally sit on your couch smoking a bowl and vote by filling in bubbles! When asked about the issue by friends on the fence, don't be partisan, as we are here, but emphasize the common positives: state revenue, elimination of cartel/gang dominance, social justice, better appropriation of law enforcement resources etc. The California initiative failed, partly because many pro-marijuana activists voted against it. We shouldn't let that happen in Colorado. If the ten or fifteen or twenty of us who read this board agree to bury all the hatchets and support any marijuana liberalization proposal, it will make a difference.

you are so right it is as simple as getting out and voting....we have the numbers we just need the votes.

[DenverRelief]

@HighPop You hit the nail on the head. It is so important that the legalization effort represent a unified voice with respect to the main talking points.

If voters get the sense that none of the initiatives are good because of infighting between proponents, it will be difficult gain a lot of support.

Yet if the main issues remain clear, that this is about reducing crime, producing revenue, and about individual rights, many Coloradans can get behind it.

Of course, in the event of legalization, I would like to see the current regulatory scheme transition into selling to the public because we have worked very hard to be where we are.

The legislature and the state of Colorado has also worked hard to produce the regulations and it is reasonable to think that they would borrow/transition the regulations.

Also, coincidentally, last night I posted a blog about the subject: From renegade to regulation,Colorado (http://www.denverrelief.com/blog/2011/07/07/from-renegade-to-regulation-colorado%E2%80%99s-marijuana-metamorphosis/)

[senorx12562]

If one of the current proposals passes, I'm thinking maybe they might do the same for basil!

[copobo]

Who cares? If this gets on the ballot, vote for it. If CTI/Legalize2012's gets on the ballot, vote for both. Just vote! We live in a state where you can literally sit on your couch smoking a bowl and vote by filling in bubbles! When asked about the issue by friends on the fence, don't be partisan, as we are here, but emphasize the common positives: state revenue, elimination of cartel/gang dominance, social justice, better appropriation of law enforcement resources etc. The California initiative failed, partly because many pro-marijuana activists voted against it. We shouldn't let that happen in Colorado. If the ten or fifteen or twenty of us who read this board agree to bury all the hatchets and support any marijuana liberalization proposal, it will make a difference.

every now and then, we agree highpop. I want to vote against the sensible/safer/mpp one, but I won't be able to. I'll vote for any proposal to make it more accessible. I do think the sensible/safer/mpp version misses the mark by far, but it would be better than it is now.

[valstar]

Like I have said before. These 2 bills will fail if they cannot come together. It will turn away voters on the fence if they see these people fighting each other. Some freedom is better than none. If you do not like the 1 ounce limit look at this way its better than NO ounce at all. Smoke your ounce and take your happy butt to the store and buy another one. At least you can buy one at all. Its better than nothing at all. Full on legalizing while its still illegal at the federal level is most likely not going to happen. The Feds will most likely stop it just like they said if California's passes they would.

[ds0110]

Like I have said before. These 2 bills will fail if they cannot come together. It will turn away voters on the fence if they see these people fighting each other. Some freedom is better than none. If you do not like the 1 ounce limit look at this way its better than NO ounce at all. Smoke your ounce and take your happy butt to the store and buy another one. At least you can buy one at all. Its better than nothing at all. Full on legalizing while its still illegal at the federal level is most likely not going to happen. The Feds will most likely stop it just like they said if California's passes they would.

Full legalization while its still fed illegal WILL happen given enough time. If not in CO, then somewhere else will cash in. Times have changed and the people realize mj should not be illegal. Prohibitionists cant stop it, the momentum is too much. What they can do is slow legalization down by regulating, which there is really no reason for, or by dividing and confusing the people. Its not like alcohol in any way whatsoever. Its safer than coffee, it should be treated like grapes or basil. By agreeing to regulate and set limits, there is still prohibition, still a black market and all the things that come with that. They will use those things in the future to say regulation doesnt work and so we need to regulate more or re-prohibition. They could also use that agreement to regulate everyday herbs or plants such as grapes, potatoes, aloe vera... Dont you people see, the ball is in our hands...we only live by those rules we chose to accept and live by...the subculture has expanded so much that they have to give in...how much is up to us at this point. Even with regulation the govt will still be overgrown. If legalization is the goal there is nothing stopping the people NOW or anytime in the next 2-3 years.....unless we agree to stop ourselves.

[ds0110]

Like I have said before. These 2 bills will fail if they cannot come together. It will turn away voters on the fence if they see these people fighting each other. Some freedom is better than none. If you do not like the 1 ounce limit look at this way its better than NO ounce at all. Smoke your ounce and take your happy butt to the store and buy another one. At least you can buy one at all. Its better than nothing at all. Full on legalizing while its still illegal at the federal level is most likely not going to happen. The Feds will most likely stop it just like they said if California's passes they would.

Look at it this way, im going to smoke over an oz anyway. before this limit and after. So this limit means nothing to me other than a distraction from the true prize here which is them allowing me to smoke as much as i want....which DOES mean something

[CDS]

Look at it this way, im going to smoke over an oz anyway. before this limit and after. So this limit means nothing to me other than a distraction from the true prize here which is them allowing me to smoke as much as i want....which DOES mean something

How frequently do you go through an ounce?

[HighPopalorum]

30,000 signatures collected! (http://www.regulatemarijuana.org/s/petition-drive-central)

[DenverRelief]

Very good news!

If you haven't yet signed the petition and are a registered Colorado voter, Denver Relief is collecting signatures 11-7pm 7 days a week at 1 Broadway.

Location | Hours - Denver Relief | Medical Marijuana Center | Colorado (http://www.denverrelief.com/location.php)

[HighPopalorum]

30,000 signatures collected! (http://www.regulatemarijuana.org/s/petition-drive-central)

50,000 Signatures and Counting!!!