First grow, outdoor, bagseed. Help me

[Bobthis]

Ok guys, I got 26 sprouts up. Oldest are 7 days old. Some of em are 3 to 4 inches tall already. They were germed under cfl and led lights, but most are outside now in the sun. They get about 6 hrs or more of direct sunlight. I live in southern US, so I got really long, hot season. Got em in red beer cups now, some in 5 gal. Buckets, using earthgro medium. Not tryin to spend alot of money. I dont think they can be found from anyone, as they are in the middle of a half mile square of land I own, and surrounded by forrestry company pine forest for miles. Please, give me some tips or help. Ill get pics up when my phone wants to cooperate with me. Thanks guys

[pushit]

I also live in the south. The main thing i would worry about there is wildlife. Deer and rabbits love those plants. Also its been pretty dry down here this year so be prepared to transport alot of water that way. The best way that ive heard to keep the pots from drying out so fast is dig some holes and place the pots in them. Thats keeps the direct sunlight off the pots keeping them moist longer. Weezard says that if you get bounty dryer sheets around the base of the plant itll help to keep all the bugs and pests away. Just put a slice in the sheet and place it around the stem of the plant. That should keep ANTS away also. They are real bad around here and love to make beds in the pots. Also you might want to want to set the new seedling in the shade for a couple days and slowly advance it in more light. Its a big change from cfls to direct sunlight. So slowly work your way up or you could fry the little ones. Well good luck and keep up updated.

[Bobthis]

Thanks for the help, man. Yeah, its been really dry n hot. Im in southern alabama. Ill try the dryer sheets. Yeah, I been easin em into the sun couple hours in, couple hrs on the porch. I got a creek I gotta cross to get to the plot. Spring fed. I also got 5 gal. Buckets burried half way waitin for the transplant.and I been preppin the area with plant safe bug n ant killer. It says I cant post pics, tho... Not allowed..... Thanks alot man.... Ill keep the updates commin...

[pushit]

Another thing you might want to invest in is some Serenade. If you have a tractor supply store or farm supply store in your area its cheaper. I paid 20 bucks for a bottle but its gonna last a long time. Watch your plants real close for any pm. Especially around flower time. The humidity gets so high down here that it became a problem for me last year. If you use the serenade, just spray them weekly while they are vegging then you have a better chance of not having it during flower. Any thing you mist on the plants make sure its in the early morning or late afternoon so the droplets dont magnify the sun. Serenade isnt a cure for it but its a good preventative. Stay ahead of the game. And once again try and deer proof as best as you can haha. You probably already know this but it cant be stressed enough.......Never tell or show anyone your area no matter how much you trust them. Good luck

[Bobthis]

Yeah man, I was plannin on investin in some chicken wire n shit. We got a ton of deer down here. Serenade, its called, huh. Ill pick some up tomorrow. Soon as I can post, ill put pics up. I dont know what to do for fertilizer, on nutrients, or whatever. Anything you could suggest would be cool, man. I think mine are a lil bit streched, from what I have read on here. I dunno. I really appreciate all the help/advice.

[pushit]

If you wanna go cheap just get some MG from walmart for soil and fert. They have several kinds of MG nutes so just make sure you use the all purpose for veg and the bloom booster for flower. Each of the boxes of nutes will last for multiple grows. Just make sure you keep them in a dry place cause humidity and moisture will cause it to set up like a brick. They have several choices of MG soil also. I would recommend the MG organic. It cost a little more but i think its worth it. Now a lot of MG soils come with time release nutes already in them. Whether it be 4, 6, or 9 month. Its all your choice what to use. Depending on what kind you get as to how much nutes you should add every other watering. Say you get the 9 month, you shouldnt have to add nutes the whole grow unless you want to. You just kinda play it by ear. Hope this helps a little. Good luck

[Bobthis]

I hear good and bad about miracle gro. They say blue for veg and pink for flower. I dunno. Guess ill stop by tractor supply, or the co op and see what they got. Gotta check put that serenade. You said that it helps prevent mold? Thanks again man. Cant wait to get pics up. Got some workin on third set ot leafs already!

[pushit]

I hear good and bad about miracle gro. They say blue for veg and pink for flower. I dunno. Guess ill stop by tractor supply, or the co op and see what they got. Gotta check put that serenade. You said that it helps prevent mold? Thanks again man. Cant wait to get pics up. Got some workin on third set ot leafs already!

Yea the serenade is a concentrate that you mix with water and spray the plants. I personally havent had to deal with pm since i started using it. It doesnt smell that great but youre outside so who cares haha. IMO theres nothing wrong with MG. You were talking about going cheap thats why i mentioned it. You can always make your own soil. Theres all kinds of cheap soil recipes on the internet. If you make your own i would strongly recommend some dolomite lime to help with the ph. Im using FFOF but its like 30 bucks a bag around these parts but im really liking it so far. If you see a soil called Hyponex, stay away from it. It will turn grey and hard as a rock. I suppose you could get it if you wanted to patch some holes in the driveway. haha

[Bobthis]

Hahaha. I got a long, gravel driveway, so that dirt would do me NO good! I been using earthgro, and its been good so far. I got a few more bags, too, so ill probably stick to it. Its good midgrade bagseed. This is a trial for me, see how it goes and learn a bit before gettin some seeds that cost alot$. So far, I think its goin good. Thanks for the wisdom, my friend.

[Bobthis]

Hey man, got a few pics up in an album in profile if you wanna check em out. That plant broke ground 7 days ago. Does it look ok, or too stretched? From what I can tell, they look to be on schedule

[pushit]

Hey man, got a few pics up in an album in profile if you wanna check em out. That plant broke ground 7 days ago. Does it look ok, or too stretched? From what I can tell, they look to be on schedule

It looks fine to me. Itll grow into that little bit of stretch and it could have alot to do with the strain. One thing i did notice though is it would be better for you to have one plant per pot. Nothing but problems come from having more than one in a single pot. Earthgro is ok. I used it once with some perlite and it did ok. You really cant beat 2.50 for a bag of soil haha. Another little thing i can tell you is to try and find the thinnest plastic pots that you can find. Dont ever use ceramic. Youll find that one out come transplant time. They are looking good and hopefully they will make it to harvest with no major problems. Good luck

[Bobthis]

Yeah man, earthgro went up to$2.77 a bag... Infationary times we are livin in!! All but one of the doubles was an accident. My lil puppy knocked over the pots and ate some dirt, so I wrote those seeds off n replanted new ones in the pots. Whadda ya know, they grew. I figured id let em get a lil set, then seperate em. One of em got broke off right under the clotys right after sproutin,dog again, so I just stuck it in a pot with another plant, gave it water, and its growin great! Who would have thought! Tuff lil fella. Oh, and they are all plastic pots, had to hijack some of the wifeys decorative lookin ones, cuz I ran out of containers that small. Def great advice man. Keep it commin, its all appreciated.

[Bobthis]

Sorry no post sooner... Busy days. Well, so far, I am about 10 days in, and the oldest plants are pushin out their 3rd set of leaves. Lookin really healthy, so far. Really happy with things, I think. Hop I get about 10 to 15 healthy girls outta the 26 plants. Aimin lil high, but its ok. Ill post some new pics in my album tomorrow when the sun is out. Is there anything I need to be doin now, to or for the plants? Thanks all!

[Bobthis]

Hey all. Added a few more pics to my album of a few plants. Got one, that sprouted with no leafs. Well, the first set came in, kinda. Lil deformed, and the second set started, butonly on one side. One side has the 3 finger leaf, and the other side looks like its gonna be a whole new branch.. I dunno, got a pic of it in the album, if anyone has any info bout it. Thanks guys

[Bobthis]

Ok guys, I got a lil problem here. A few plants got some tiny lil black spots on a few of the leaves. Does anyone know what it it, or how to correct it? Any help would be great. Thanks

[pushit]

Ok guys, I got a lil problem here. A few plants got some tiny lil black spots on a few of the leaves. Does anyone know what it it, or how to correct it? Any help would be great. Thanks

You got any pics of it? Will the spots wipe off?

[Bobthis]

Yeah, they wipe off. Looks like bug shit. I got some safe, organic insecticidal soap spray, so that should take care of it. Hope they do good, cuz I am goin to the beach for a couple days. Just give em a shot of water before I go, should do fine. I also got a light pyrethrine spray, in case the soap stuff is a flop.

[pushit]

Yeah, they wipe off. Looks like bug shit. I got some safe, organic insecticidal soap spray, so that should take care of it. Hope they do good, cuz I am goin to the beach for a couple days. Just give em a shot of water before I go, should do fine. I also got a light pyrethrine spray, in case the soap stuff is a flop.

Sounds like you should get it under control. Hopefully they grow like weed when youre gone:thumbsup:

[Bobthis]

Well, got home from the beach. Looks like i'm beatin the bugs, but the rabbits got me. They tore up my 2 biggest plants. Off to the store to get some deer n rabbit repeller. Other than that, they seem to be doin good. Gave em a lil shot of some fert today, see how they like that. We had some storms down here, and some of em stretched a bib cuz of the cloudiness, but they seem to be doin good. Gettin big. Hope I get lots of girls!

[Bobthis]

Quick question, how long should I wait to transplant from the cups to a 5 gal bucket? If I dump the cup in my hand, I got a decent lil bit of roots showin wrappin around the dirt. Alot of reading says about 3 weeks. This sound good?

[pushit]

Quick question, how long should I wait to transplant from the cups to a 5 gal bucket? If I dump the cup in my hand, I got a decent lil bit of roots showin wrappin around the dirt. Alot of reading says about 3 weeks. This sound good?

Have you thought about progressing to that 5 gal? I like to go from cup to 1 gal to 3 gal then to whatever you want to finish with. Doing it this way, your plant will always have fresh soil. Plus if you go straight to a 5 gal theres gonna be alot of unused space for awhile which could cause problems especially with watering. The plant also seems to concentrate more on its roots rather than whats above the soil. This is just my opinion though.
Have you thought about putting chicken wire up and fence in the plants? Might help with the rabbit situation.

[Bobthis]

I would really like to step up sizes. The only things that are gonna stop me is the fact that my plot is almost a 1/4 mile from my house, and its walkin thru pretty thick woods to get there. More transplants means more 40 pound bags of dirt I gotta carry back there. Not to keen on that. Still gettin over surgeory. I take a bag or 2 back there every now and then, when I feel up to it. Closer to the house isnt an option. Id grow indoors, but I have kids. This is kinda a trial year for me on growin. I may try steppin up like half, and goin straight to the 5's on half. See how much difference there is. And go from there for next year. I think I might have to go with the wire to protect em. If the concentrate liquid stuff dont work. Take it out there in the fall, when its cooler, and have it for end of this year, and ready for next year. This was kind of a spur of the moment thing. Germed a ton of seeds, and wasnt really ready for all the work. Next year will ne much better. Ill be ready

[pushit]

Yea i hear ya. Alot of people go straight to big pots. To answer your original question... if you see roots all along the bottom of your cups, its time to transplant. I didnt realize how much work itd be when i started either. Ive only been growing a year and i still have so much to learn. I spend pretty much all my spare time on this site and a couple others trying to better each grow. Sometimes i do sometimes i dont. Its all about experimenting and finding out what works best for you.

[Bobthis]

I see what you mean about growin slower in big pots. After they sprouted in lil containers, I put the 2 biggest ones right into 5 gal buckets, now they are the smallest plants. By far. Bet they got alot of roots. I think I took care of the bug problem, with the pyrethrine. Just gotta stay on it. I wish we were gettin more sun here. Just lots of rain. The biggest ones are growin first set of 7 leafers, and lookin like they might start thinkin bout branchin out. Wish I could sex em now, so I didnt have to transplant and raise the boys. Yeah, I been readin alot, too, but it dont help as much as the experience...

[Bobthis]

Some more recent pics.... They are just about 3 wks old here. Do they look ok to you guys

[jwmsalisbury]

Looks awesome! you said these were just bag seeds? same with mine, hope you get a lot of females!

[Bobthis]

Yeah, me too. I started with 26, and lost one to animals. Hell, if I end up with 10 good growin girls, ill be happy. It was some pretty good bud I got the seeds from, so we will see how it turns out with no seeds, and my amateurass behind the wheel.

[319]

Your doing well so far. I wish I could come outside and play. lol

[Bobthis]

Your doing well so far. I wish I could come outside and play. lol

Thanks man.... I been watchin your grows, too. Wish I could come indoors. Mother nature doesnt want to cooperate with me. Either no rain, or like now, too damn much. Gettin worried about overwatering. I dunno... The dirt theyre in drains really good, and when this alabama sun comes out, it comes out strong..... We shall see.

[319]

Buy a moister meter. Cheap but worth the investment if your in soil. I wish I had one when I first started. Anyway, I'm here for the ride.

Tread Lightly!

[Bobthis]

Buy a moister meter. Cheap but worth the investment if your in soil. I wish I had one when I first started. Anyway, I'm here for the ride.

Tread Lightly!

Cool man, ill go pick one up. Thanks for the tip. I just wish I could stop the rain. Not too much I can do about the water they are gettin, meybe rig up some sort of shield to cover most of the pot, to keep most of the water out, but let em still get sun. Its a long walk thru woods, and I dont make it out there every day, so I cant put a tarp over em. Also, dont wanna alert the pork choppers flyin around to any of my activities...... Thanks for the help

[LetsSeeYa]

If you wanna go cheap just get some MG from walmart for soil and fert. They have several kinds of MG nutes so just make sure you use the all purpose for veg and the bloom booster for flower. Each of the boxes of nutes will last for multiple grows. Just make sure you keep them in a dry place cause humidity and moisture will cause it to set up like a brick. They have several choices of MG soil also. I would recommend the MG organic. It cost a little more but i think its worth it. Now a lot of MG soils come with time release nutes already in them. Whether it be 4, 6, or 9 month. Its all your choice what to use. Depending on what kind you get as to how much nutes you should add every other watering. Say you get the 9 month, you shouldnt have to add nutes the whole grow unless you want to. You just kinda play it by ear. Hope this helps a little. Good luck

If you get pre ferted soil do not add any nutes or you will fry your plants, i did a grow with it and did fine. But add more ferts and you might burn em all up. The 3 month kind would be the best. Use the KISS method:)

Its up to you though.


LSY

[Bobthis]

Thanks for the help man. I didnt go with pre ferted, I went with earthgro..... Its cheap, drains really good, and seems to be workin good. I hit em with some super diluted mg blue, cuz its got high N, and everywhere says N is good for veg, so........ They seem to be doin good, so far. Im gonna check out youroutdoor grows, see if I cant pick up a few things

[Lawladash]

I did an outdoor grow my first time with just a bunch of bag seeds. I think about 25-30, about 12 were females and about 7 survived either being eaten, or other problems. Hope yours goes much better. I also had to backpack all my water out as it was in a national park.

[Bobthis]

I did an outdoor grow my first time with just a bunch of bag seeds. I think about 25-30, about 12 were females and about 7 survived either being eaten, or other problems. Hope yours goes much better. I also had to backpack all my water out as it was in a national park.

Yeah, my goal is at least ten girls. How much did you harvest frm your 7. People are tellin me that 10 would give me like 2 pounds.
My plants are about 1/4 mile thru woods. But its my property, and my buddy has a truck, and likes offroadin, so we took 3 cases of bottled water out there to water with, along with dirt. Way better than humpin a ton of dirt n water. I hope everything goes good. Thanks for stoppin by

[Bobthis]

Well, rain stopped, and sun is out. Glad to see it! My oldest, biggest plants are startin to stink. Awesome! well, now the bad news. I dunno what happened, but some of the plants look like the new growth is burned, kinda brown and dyin. Most made a comeback and are growin new growth. 1 of em lost the whole growth node, and just has a lil stem stump growin from the last node. But the good news is that it started sprouting from every stem/leaf intersection. So, we will see. I dont know if it was the weak dose of mg blue they got, or the Bonide pyrethrine spray I hit em with. Might have sprayed a lil heavy, cuz I had some spider mites, and we kept gettin rain, and I wanted to kill tje bugs, cuz they were raping my lil babies. So, I sprayed them 4 times in a week. Is that too much? I dunno what caused the damage, but it seems to be gettin better. Might have been the mg, cuz it seems like it didnt bother the bigger ones. Guess they handled the nutes better. Well, you live n learn. Will put up some new pics soon. Gonna transplant more into 5 gal buckets tomorrow. Cant wait till I can sex em. Excited to see how many sexy girlies im gonna get...

[Bobthis]

Thanks for the encouragment, man. If you got any suggestions for me, from any of your amazing grows and experience, let me know. Need all the help I can get

[Bobthis]

New pics from yesterday.... My oldest plant

[Bobthis]

Heres some pics of my mutant plant. Sprouted with no leafs, and been growin crazy. Looks kinda gimpy, but healthy. I dunno... I really want it to make it, and be a girl, just to see what happens.

[Bobthis]

Well, today makes a month old for a few of my oldest babies. Most of em are about a week younger. Gonna transplant the rest of em outta the red cups today. Puttin em in 2 or 2.5 gallons. That should get me thru sexin em, then toss the girls in 5's. Went out n seen em earlier. Lookin good. Few mite webs, but I cleaned em up n sprayed em. All the burned/damaged growth is healed up. It seems to have promoted some branching growth from all the nodes in the worst ones, but the tops seem to be showing new growth. Ill try to get pics wjen I transplant. All in all, seems to be goin really good!

[Bobthis]

Well, no transplant today. Wife took my car, with the buckets in the trunk.... Then, I went out to check on em, and a damn critter killed one of my plants. Chewed thru th stem at tje base. So, I am tryin to root the top, see how that goes. Doubt it will work, but oh well. Still shootin for 10 girls. Damn animals!

[Bobthis]

Well, no transplant today. Wife took my car, with the buckets in the trunk.... Then, I went out to check on em, and a damn critter killed one of my plants. Chewed thru th stem at tje base. So, I am tryin to root the top, see how that goes. Doubt it will work, but oh well. Still shootin for 10 girls. Damn animals!

Also, kinda gettin sick of this Server is to busy at the moment, try again later. Shit. Cant ever get on and read, or make a post.

[Bobthis]

Well, no go on rootin the top to that plant. Son of a bitch came back n finished the job. Got another 6 transplanted to bigger containers. They are lookin good. Alot of em are startin to branch out. Gettin excited!

[Bobthis]

Hey all, does this plant look like its showin? Can anyone help me identify boy or girl? Thanks

[pushit]

From the second pic it looks male to me. Its not letting me zoom in for some reason so you might want someone else's opinion.

[Bobthis]

Maybe this will work

[Bobthis]

Other one

[SmokeMyPiece]

Agreed, I see a cluster of male flowers

[Bobthis]

thanks guys..... not the answer i wanted to hear, but oh well. i got 25 more of em.bound to getsome girls. will give him the chop today. thanks

[SmokeMyPiece]

Keep you're head up bro, the growth pattern looked good so your doin somethin right :thumbsup:

And if you're gettin heat like we are in Tx, a layer of mulch or straw,etc will help hold moisture. Otherwise, my plants' soil evaporates faster than its absorbed. Just lookin out.

Stay Lit

[pushit]

Keep you're head up bro, the growth pattern looked good so your doin somethin right :thumbsup:

And if you're gettin heat like we are in Tx, a layer of mulch or straw,etc will help hold moisture. Otherwise, my plants' soil evaporates faster than its absorbed. Just lookin out.

Stay Lit

Thats a good idea just watch what you are using. Pine straw will drop the ph severely. Blueberry bushes, for example, like ph around 4 so pine straw helps with them. Just a little info i picked up this year:thumbsup:

[Bobthis]

Thanks guys. Tryin to do what I can. I will try the mulch. I had heard some bad things about it causing problems with mold n fungus, and rot, so I didnt use it, bit if you guys say its good, I trust you, so off I go tp get some. Pulled another male today, also, looked just like the other one. Little clusters. Girls dont do that, huh. Just 1 lil flower/ calyx? Thanks for all the help. Think I got 1 lookin to be girl, bit I gotta wait a lil longer to tell. Wish I had a better camera....

[pushit]

Like i said just research what you use. I personally dont use anything to cover the soil for like you said, i fear mold, pests etc. Some do , some dont. Its nothing for me to go outside and water. Part of the job. If you do decide to go with mulch, try a couple to see how well it does.

Females youll see little white hairs coming from where your are seeing clusters.

[SmokeMyPiece]

You'll have enough time to tell the males before they start droppin pollen.

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[Bobthis]

Thanks, ill try a few things. Im gettin ready to go look at my mutant plant. It looks like it will be a girl, fingers crossed...

[Bobthis]

Hey all, I got a lil problem. On most of the plants the bottom sers of leafs have yellowed n died. I really havnt givin em any nutes is a while, should I give em a shot, or is this normal?

[pushit]

Hey all, I got a lil problem. On most of the plants the bottom sers of leafs have yellowed n died. I really havnt givin em any nutes is a while, should I give em a shot, or is this normal?

Got a pic?

[Bobthis]

Sorry man, no pics yet. Pourin rain here, and I really aint up to trekkin thru the jungle in a storm to take a few pics. I dont think its anything too serious, so they will be ok. I gave em a weak fert mix last evening, and now with the rain, ill check on em tomorrow, and see how they are doin, and take some pics if they still look a lil weak. My mutant plant has turned out to be the best lookin one, and a plant I burned with nutes that topped itself is doin good. Got 3 main stems on it now. Hope its a girl.... 3 colas?!? Its a lil small, think it got stunted by the trauma, but its pullin thru. Thanks for all the help!

[SmokeMyPiece]

If they've grown a good bit since the last pic, They're probably old enough to start a feeding schedule as well.

I always fed every other watering, starting at 1/2 strength at this stage. Especially since your medium doesnt have many nutes to start with. What you did feed may have been leached out by the heavy rain you mentioned.

How often do you plan to go out there? I live in deep south as well (south Tx) and grow a variety of veggies outside in 3 gallon pots. I have to water Every day, and I use MG every third watering. So i was just a little concerned for ya here.. If its a good trek to your spot, I was thinkin you may wanna plant em in the ground instead so youll have to water/feed less frequently.

Just a thought

[Bobthis]

Well, most of em seem to be doin ok. Gonna try to make sure I give em a lil more water, and start feedin em more. This heat is crazy! Ill try to get some pics tomorrow. Got one thats lookin really good. Cant tell sex yet, tho. Gonna look em all over real good tomorrow, see whats up. I cant thank you guys enough for the advice.

[EvasiveGrower]

Grow looks good so far. I'd pickup a magnifying glass at radio shack, 5x or 10x should be plenty,this will help you when determining sex as well as inspect the leaves for parasites and things you cannot see with the naked eye.

Have you just considered planting them in the ground? Might help ease the watering issue once they get larger. I've seen people make 'buckets' out of chicken wire then place the chicken wire shell into a pre-dug hole, then transplant it into the hole with the chicken wire. I've heard this helps with groundhogs and such (don't know how bad they are in Alabama).

Looking good! Also have you considered topping them to produce more yield? Especially since you are outside and you dont have to be concerned with height as much as us indoor growers.

[SmokeMyPiece]

Have you just considered planting them in the ground? Might help ease the watering issue once they get larger.
lol, thats two threads now that you basically repeated my post

Looking good! Also have you considered topping them to produce more yield? Especially since you are outside and you dont have to be concerned with height as much as us indoor growers.
Topping/lst/fim/pinching/etc doesnt increase yield, that is a myth. The plant would produce the same amount either way.
These techniques just help prevent vertical growth, giveing other parts of the plant to get more light.

[Bobthis]

I have thought about goin into the ground, but the dirt here is terrible. I had a tomato in the ground for 2 months, watered it, took careof it and it almost died. 2 weeks ago I moved it into the same dirt im usin, and its exploded. 10 times the size. With the same care.. Dont really wanna dig out dirt and backfill with good cuz im gettin over sugery, and cant really do it. Plus, we do get the occsional chopper thru here, so I couldnt have a big crop. Have to spread em out. Thats alot of holes! 20 to 30. Not worth it to me, I guess. I do need a magnifier, tho. Next time I go to town ill get one. So looks like I will have to water n feed alot. Hit 118 here with heat index today. That cant be good for em. At least it rained so I dont have to water today. Ill give em a light nute mix tomorrow, and look em over really good. Try to take some pics. I think they look ok. Thanks for all the help!

[Bobthis]

Well, took a walk this morning. Bad news: my 4 ft monster was showin boy, so he got the chop. Also found 6 more males. Good news: found my first confirmed girl. Seen her lil hars. Also got a bunch that are alternating nodes, and not showing yet. I think this is good, as they say females show later. Hit em with a light nute mix. Lookin pretty good. Bugs are under control, seem to be growin good. Whoo hooo!

[Bobthis]

Well, took the phone with me today and snapped these pics of one of em. These are the only ones that turned out good. Got 3 showin pistils, but this is the furthest along. Only doin it at the top, now. Startin to get excited! Should I switch nutes now? If so, what NPK am I lookin for?

[Bobthis]

anyone?????? really need help on what kind of NPK numbers i need to look for in flowering nutes. the ones i see at the stores are like 55 phosphorus. seems a bit much to me. anyonegot some input for me. plants are kinda small, so i dont wanna go hard with em, but i want em to grow as much as possible, so i get more bud sites. i dont have tons of money, so if someone could give me some advice,or a cheaper, readily available product idea, i would appreciate it alot......

[EvasiveGrower]

I just picked up some flora bloom from my local hydro store, the numbers on the front are 10-5-10, is that what you are looking for?

[SmokeMyPiece]

You want a higher N for veg, and higher P-K for flower.
-When plants start showin a lighter green, they are low on N.

Fox Farm Trio is pretty much fool proof for beginners.

[Bobthis]

Cool... Ill go pick somethin up. Someone suggested this stuff that was like 10-55-24. Seems a bit strong. What do yo think?

[SmokeMyPiece]

If you cant find any of the suggested nutes listed in the stickies, then go with nutes for tomatoes.
-mapquest 'hydroponics' for ur area, you might be surprised. I know I was, there are about 6hydro stores around my area.

[Bobthis]

Well, I think ill end up with like 6 or 8 girls. I tbink they are kinda small, but its ok. I started late. I will order some good nutes for next year, and start 2 months earlier. Got a few pics of some of the little buds. Not gonna get too big of a yield, but I learned alot. Last pic is of a lil baby lizard I found chillin out on one of the plants. Guess he likes weed, too!

[Bobthis]

Well, seem to be doin good. All 9 I had left are female. 1 is really starting to bud . Here is a few pics.278236278235278237278238

[whitetop]

looking nice mate ill be doing it in the right time my self next time i was a bit late for my out doors good thing i put mine on the window sill

[Bobthis]

Yeah, I germed mine inside, but I waited till the end of june. Next year they will have another 2 months of veg. Im pleased with how they are growin. Gotta go water em today, give em a lil nutes. You got a log on here?

[pushit]

Look at the hairs. They grow up so fast haha. Great job man

[Bobthis]

Yeah man, I am super excited. I got a few that are over a foot taller, but they are just startin to push hairs everywhere. And I got one with 3 tops, but its nice n short. They all seem about a week or two behind this one, but I sprouted a few different kinds of good bagseed, so im excited to see what I get! 9 lil girls should gove me a good little harvest. Thanks for all your help!

[Bobthis]

Gettin stinky! Got trichs on the leaves all around the buds. Man does it smell good. Startin to fill in really nice. Finally got some rain here, so I dont have to water. So far, flower has been smooth sailing. Ill get some new pics when I can, lots of rain commin from tropical storm. Yay for weed!

[pushit]

Gettin stinky! Got trichs on the leaves all around the buds. Man does it smell good. Startin to fill in really nice. Finally got some rain here, so I dont have to water. So far, flower has been smooth sailing. Ill get some new pics when I can, lots of rain commin from tropical storm. Yay for weed!

Its good for the plants but sucks for us living in the country:D Power was out for 7 hours earlier. You getting alot of wind too?

[Bobthis]

Nah, no wind yet. Not even rainin here now. Im about 100 miles north of the coast, tho, so ill get it more tomorrow. I got a friend in Houma, LA and she said it was pretty ugly there. I wish I could get some rhino clones like you got, man. Next year im gonna order some good seeds, and set up an indoor room. Now that my girls are growin up, im startin to get the itch to start more. But I will wait, impatiently....

[Bobthis]

Ok, been a lil while since I posted. Plants are lookin good. I got one thats decided it wanted purple pistils. Dont know if its good or bad, but it looks really good. Things are goin good, thanks to all you guys. Here are some pics. Let me know what you think.[attachment=o278546][attachment=o278547][attachment=o278548][attachment=o278549]

[3rick]

Ooooh...Very pretty! :)

[Bobthis]

Thanks, I just hope it smokes good

[Bobthis]

Well, went and watered today. Lookin good! Looks like im gonna have a staged harvest. Got some that are 2 or 3 weeks ahead of others. Ok by me! About 5 weeks into flower on the farthest one. Lookin at about 3 to 5 left, I guess. Def time for the 30x mag soon. Need some solid methods for the dry and cure, if anyone can shoot me a link, or give me a fast rundown. So many different ways, I dont wanna choose poorly, ya know. Thanks yall

[Shovelhandle]

harvest when they are just about ready, they finish the few days while they dry. Hang to dry in a warm, dry place with good ventilation, no direct fan on the plants though. Put them into jars or containers when the stems snap when bent.

[Bobthis]

Thanks... I been hearin a lot about paper bags, cardboard boxes, n shit. Thats what I was plannin on doin, I just didnt wanna mess it all up before the best part of this whole process.... The enjoyment! Seems like just keep it simple, eh. No crazy dry ice n shit.

[pushit]

Thanks... I been hearin a lot about paper bags, cardboard boxes, n shit. Thats what I was plannin on doin, I just didnt wanna mess it all up before the best part of this whole process.... The enjoyment! Seems like just keep it simple, eh. No crazy dry ice n shit.

Get yourself 2 flares, 1 gal of gas, a clothes hanger, and 4 toothpics haha. Just messing around. Its just like shovel said. I do use paperbags in between the hanging and jars. But thats just me. Just pay close attention when you jar them. They will mold if jarred too moist. But on the same note dont over dry them either. I recently bought a Caliber III to help with knowing the humidity in the jars. Takes a lot of guesswork out of it. Just something you might wanna check out

[Bobthis]

Get yourself 2 flares, 1 gal of gas, a clothes hanger, and 4 toothpics haha. Just messing around. Its just like shovel said. I do use paperbags in between the hanging and jars. But thats just me. Just pay close attention when you jar them. They will mold if jarred too moist. But on the same note dont over dry them either. I recently bought a Caliber III to help with knowing the humidity in the jars. Takes a lot of guesswork out of it. Just something you might wanna check out thanks man. I been readin all kinds of macguyver shit. I kept the grow simple, so might as well keep it that way. Hope I get a decent harvest. Plants are pretty small, I think, but with 9 I should do ok

[Bobthis]

Thank you rain! One less trip to go water. Cant wait to go check em out tomorrow. I will get some new pics up. About 45 days flowerin on older 1. Lookin at about 2 weeks, I think till the chop on it. Gonna start watchin it close. Yay for me!

[Bobthis]

New pics. Pistils are startin to change. Wont be long now[attachment=o278778][attachment=o278777][attachment=o278779]

[killerchickens95]

I would put some kind of chicken wire around em or something to put the rabbits and mice from finding your tender shoots,they love em!!!want to triple your yield????try using 20 -400 gallon pots or diggin and prepin large planting sites,you will be rewarded greatly,love the outdoor gorillas,keep it up!!!!viva la ganja!!!!:jointsmile:

[Bobthis]

I would like to do somethin like that, but they havnt passed medical growing laws here yet, and I get lots of air traffic. Im growin about a 1/4 mile into some thick woods on my property, and cant get that much dirt, or other supplies back there. Dirt here is terrible, all sand n clay, so I would need to carry it all back. I started with 26 plants, and that was alot of haulin, with my arthritis ridden body. Lol. This is my first go round, and will def change/improve a few things. Thanks for the input man, keep it commin.

[Bobthis]

Btw, dont hold back on what you think about the pics/grow. Only way im gonna learn is if I know I did something wrong. Yer not gonna hurt my feelings, so let me have it! Thanks guys

[hemptations]

Wow that's funny, your bagseed plant looks exactly like my bagseed plant in the same stages, same conditions (north Carolina) and everything. Funny thing is, I been reading this since the first post trying to obtain information. Just don't forget about the quiet people who want you to keep updating! My harvest is soon, maybe we can compare pics if i ever get a camera. and invest in a wheel barrel.

[Bobthis]

Yo hemp, thanks for hangin in there with me. I dont care if anyone replies, I will post on, my friend. You def gotta get some pics up so we can compare. Does yers stink like mine? I got like 5 dif bagseed strains goin on. I been pretty happy with mine. Hope yer as excited as me to harvest! Good luck man, and post some of your grow details on here so I can try to learn a few more things. Thanks for watchin, dude!:jointsmile:

[hemptations]

Yo hemp, thanks for hangin in there with me. I dont care if anyone replies, I will post on, my friend. You def gotta get some pics up so we can compare. Does yers stink like mine? I got like 5 dif bagseed strains goin on. I been pretty happy with mine. Hope yer as excited as me to harvest! Good luck man, and post some of your grow details on here so I can try to learn a few more things. Thanks for watchin, dude!:jointsmile:

Where I live, in Cackalackey, the biggest problem is insects. I've been spraying my plants with a homemade concaution that took the insects away but also the smell. Still can't get over how similar our plants are. (Same bagseed?)

Dirts/Ferts: Expert grow brand potting soil and fertilizer. Was the cheapest in both categories have yet to have any problems with them.

[Bobthis]

I havnt really had a bug problem. Been sprayin Home Defense on the ground around the buckets. Could be the same bagseed. Really dense, good bud, only a few seeds from a half. Im really happy with this grow. Only spent about $75. I went with cheap dirt, and MG, and had no probs either. Gonna be choppin the one in the pic in about a week. Rest in at least 2 to 3 weeks. How long till you harvest? Gotta get some pics up. Happy gardening, man!

[hemptations]

My harvest is simply a question of "how done they get x how desperate I get". I thought I came up with an awesome plan, and wondered why no one does it. Took all my pictures from germ til buds on my iphone along with all the notes I would say when I post an entire grow log of the event and then I broke my phone. Guess that's why no one does that =/

[Bobthis]

Well, I gave my oldest girl the chop yesterday. Did a lil kinda quick dry overnite on a nugget, and I gotta say it was a really good smoke. To be honest..... I am blazed! Def chopped at the right time. Really good, mellow high. Im really suprised it turned out so good! I will post a pic of the harvest tomorrow. Cant wait to chop the other 8 in a week or 2!

[Bobthis]

Btw: In case I havnt said it enough
Thanks to all you guys that helped and to this site. Couldnt have done it without all the advice and help.

[hemptations]

Btw: In case I havnt said it enough
Thanks to all you guys that helped and to this site. Couldnt have done it without all the advice and help.

:) What are you looking for in your trichs? 50/50? For mine I'm trying to get them as done as possible but with as many thick white trichs as I can get. What kinda of drying/curing processes you going to do? Think I'll water cure a few branches and see how that turns out.

[bayou bud]

I heard/read that the Carolina's were poor in nitrogen in the soil...

[Bobthis]

I dunno bout the Carolina's, but down in southern Alabama its terrible. Just sand and clay.

Hemp: As far as the dry n cure method, i'm just dyring this one in a shoebox with string and hangin em, and puttin it in jars to cure. Gonna try to go at least 2-4 weeks cure.

[Bobthis]

:) What are you looking for in your trichs? 50/50? For mine I'm trying to get them as done as possible but with as many thick white trichs as I can get. What kinda of drying/curing processes you going to do? Think I'll water cure a few branches and see how that turns out.
On this plant I didnt look at trichs. Just went with overall look of the bud, and the amount of hairs that had changed. I think chopped at the perfect time. Perfect balance in the buzz. Im gonna go by the trichs on the other 8, I think. I dunno what ratio im gonna go with. Prob like 70/30. Dont want to much couch lock. Might let one or 2 go a bit longer. Prob another week, no more than 2 on the rest of em. How manydays into flower are you?

[Italiano715]

haha ignore my last post as i didn't realize there were more pages! hahah If I were you I'd harvest some with more cloudy then amber and let the others go to a little more amber than cloudy trichs. That way you have a mixture of that "head" high and "couch" high. Then you can see which you liked better for future references.

[Bobthis]

haha ignore my last post as i didn't realize there were more pages! hahah If I were you I'd harvest some with more cloudy then amber and let the others go to a little more amber than cloudy trichs. That way you have a mixture of that "head" high and "couch" high. Then you can see which you liked better for future references.

Hell yeah, I am def gonna harvest over the whole spectrum and see how it all goes. Quick dried a bud off my 3 topper I chopped today, and it is fuckin amazing. Cant wait till I get it dried and cured! Put the fitst one I chopped into jars today, so a few weeks I will give it a try. Thanks for the tips, dude!

[n00b]

Very nice! Hoping to have my first batch ready to harvest in another couple of weeks. Hope mine are as good as yours :)

[Bobthis]

Thanks man. I have had really good luck. Got some of it dried, and it is really good. I gotta get some pics up. I got 4 more left to chop, and they should be ready in a few days. I really like having a variety of like 4 different kinds to choose from. And all of it is good. I hope you get a good turnout.

[Bobthis]

Well, it is official.... I could not resist, and have started to germ seeds for an indoor grow. Nothin special, just some super good bagseed. Doin the grow at a friends place, cuz i didnt wanna do it here(kids) Just gonna do em in a closet with white walls. Gonna start em with cfl's, and add somethin else. Lookin for suggestions on a good, cheap light setup, so lay it on me, if ya dont mind. Using the same earth gro medium i just used on my outdoor run, cuz it seemed to do good. Gonna put em into beer cups, and transplant up from there. Thinkin bout changing up the fert on this one, and goin with something else other than MG. But we will see. I will start a new log when i get em into dirt and get some pics up that are worth posting. Thanks to all you guys that helped on the first go round, and hope you drop in on the new grow when its up n running. Dont wait on the suggestions for an indoor grow till i start the new log. Lay em on me, cuz the seeds are in paper towels germing as i type. Thanks all, much love for everything

[pushit]

Well, it is official.... I could not resist, and have started to germ seeds for an indoor grow. Nothin special, just some super good bagseed. Doin the grow at a friends place, cuz i didnt wanna do it here(kids) Just gonna do em in a closet with white walls. Gonna start em with cfl's, and add somethin else. Lookin for suggestions on a good, cheap light setup, so lay it on me, if ya dont mind. Using the same earth gro medium i just used on my outdoor run, cuz it seemed to do good. Gonna put em into beer cups, and transplant up from there. Thinkin bout changing up the fert on this one, and goin with something else other than MG. But we will see. I will start a new log when i get em into dirt and get some pics up that are worth posting. Thanks to all you guys that helped on the first go round, and hope you drop in on the new grow when its up n running. Dont wait on the suggestions for an indoor grow till i start the new log. Lay em on me, cuz the seeds are in paper towels germing as i type. Thanks all, much love for everything

Congrats on your first grow completion! Its addicting as hell huh. Looking forward to the new log.

[Bobthis]

Yes...... I am hooked.

[Esteban1]

Addictive:

I'll second that one