deficianies anyone!!!!

[garrath]

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can anyone tell me what this is?? i've been told its a p deficiancy but can't work out how to sort it out. ph in feed going in is good, 5.7 ish. i'm using ghe 3 part at full strength. this is in flower, 2 weeks in.

sorry, am growing in coco and clay balls.

thanks, hope someone gets back to me soon.

[CanGroIt]

Appears to be nute burn.... Your plant(s) look too small for full strength. You're also not supposed to give full strength of all three at the same time, if that's what you're doing. The amounts should fluctuate, determined by the growth period....

If you click on the link in my sig, it will take you to the troubleshooting form. Go there, copy the questions, come back here, reply, paste, answer the questions and we can better assist you with your deficiencies prob....

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[tinytoon]

What are you calling full strength?? Allot of labels and guides are way to strong for what you are growing. How many Ml per gal are you doing or give me some kind of a measurement of what you do per gallon.

[garrath]

hi well its not nute burn as its done this b 4 and i flushed for days and days started feeding agane no change so choped the lot and put new in and its doing the same thing agane .

i use ghe flora series 3 part
green gro 15ml to 10 ltr of water
micro 10ml to 10 ltr of water
bloom 5 ml to 10 ltr of water this changes as the weeks go on i have a m8t that uses the same feed and gives way more than that

the thing id like to know is how to test the ph of my coco is it just the run off i test and what range is best for the run off
and wen making my feed up i let the water sit for a day and set the ph at 5.7 ish and feed the coco is this good or shud i b letting the ph rise up or is 5.8ish the best ph to have
for all nuts
thanx for the help

[tinytoon]

yup your running a lil bit under 1/2 str. ACK I just went back and read begining. If you are in flower you have your nutes backwards. would be 10/5/15 (M/G/B) and I'm sure you are but have to ask, you are putting micro in water first then adding next and so forth?

[garrath]

hi yer im putting the micro in 1st but its odd that ghe dont tell you to do it ??? had to find out from a m8t

wer in the world r u at not that im guna find you but im giving the plants what it says on the card so full str i think so if you r in or around the usa is the feed mixed stronger in the eu ??
ill post the feeding chart from ghe and see what you think .
im thinking this as iv been looking at the latewoods feeding and its way way to strong
my m8t grows 6 ft plants in side and even burnt them in bud but haho all part of the game

[tinytoon]

I'm in US and dont believe strength would be different. Make sure you read Latewood's at the end as they change the mix from the first part.
Yes please post the chart as I tried to follow GH's chart on their website and dam near lost everything I had due to N being WAY to high.

[tipper619sd]

i am having the same problem in aeroponics right now as i speak i dont understand whats wrong mine is a lot less worse than yours but i am using gh also and following the feed chart wondering if i can put more water in my res. and maybe help the plants out

[garrath]

flora series ghe feed chart well ill put it up like this to daft to do a photo
cuttings 2.5 of each in 10 ltr 2 weeks
veg 7 of each 1 to 2 weeks
after this i go to 10 ml of each till i bud
week 1 to 2 bud 15 grow 10 micro 5 bloom
weeks 3 to 6 5 grow 10 micro 15 bloom
week 7 0 grow 10 micro 20 bloom ....but i go up to 25 or 30 if thay r good feeders
thats what it says on card .....

tinytoon just to check if you look on back of 3 part how much nitrogen in the grow iv got 3%
in my bloom iv got 5%phosphate
i only ask as gh is a nassa made feed is it not ??
if so thay dont like shiping water and my make it stronger for rest of the world as it saves cash in shipping .... i dont know this but may b ??who knows

[garrath]

sorry tipper i dont know how to help you m8t this is the 3rd time this has got me every time a week in to bud
and sorry to say but i choped the lot down as it fuked me off you can try watering it down but iv been told its a lack of p in that photo but you never know iv been told to much food as well ppl will tell you any thing if thay dont know to big them self up[
not every one tho
tipper u in veg or bud how far in from seed ??or cutts
how many plants ?/
if more than 1 try to feed 1 more food and one more water but this is only what i think and im a fuk nut lol and ant doing to good me self sorry

[tinytoon]

week 1 to 2 bud 15 grow 10 micro 5 bloom

this is what I dont understand. when in veg you should be running more grow than bloom and in flower you should be running more bloom than grow. So according to what you listed you do the first 2 weeks of flower the mix is wrong and very well might be where your lack of P is coming from. take a look at "Latewoods Legacy" at the top of hydro section and make sure you get to the end of post as mixture changes from the start

[garrath]

you use this for the 1st 2 weeks as your plants go mad growing in the 1st 2 weeks
but its only whats on the sheet i know nothing
ill have a look agane at it thanx for all the help

[garrath]

iv looked at it and dont see to what it changes to can you give me a clue as i dont know what to think
how much do you use for your plants in veg
and bloom ??

[garrath]

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well this is the sheet i got from the grow shop so is this not right ??
do you have a sheet to compare it with ??
this is all just mad if it is the sheet iv got it with my ghe feed and have lost lots of plants over the last year .
well if you can help you just mite stop me having a brake down :thumbsup:

[tinytoon]

I'm not gonna say that sheet is wrong but I can tell you what I have done and works. I used this in DWC, E&F and also Ebb&Grow. I basically fine tuned Latewoods mix to fit my needs. I use Gallons instead of Litres but I'm sure you will be able to figure it. My normal mix in veg is 5/5/5 ml per gal (micro/grow/bloom). When I changed lights to 12/12 I would change mix to 2.5/5/5 and also add 5ml per gal of Koolbloom liquid. If not using a bloom booster then up your bloom to 10. Starting the 4th week of flower it went 2.5/5/10 along with 1/4 tsp Koolbloom Dry. Again if not using a booster then take bloom to 15.

So no matter what form of measurement you are using veg = 1/1/1
first 3 weeks flower= .5/1/2 with no booster
4th - 7th week flower= .5/1/3 with no boost
8th week 1/2 strength mixture
9th/10th week plain water

[garrath]

well iv changed me feed to the one you use thanx for that .
id still like to know y the sheet is so out ill have to think a bit more on that
agane thanx for the help and i hope this sorts it ill come back in a day or 2 to tell if thay get any better

[Daddynobucks]

I think you are running to much air

Daddy

[garrath]

well no change as yet iv worked out the feed
i use 10 ltr of water so in that i put 10 of each for veg witch is good have used this b 4
bud is 5ml grow 10 micro 20 bloom for 1st 3 weeks so on
ill give them till next week if no change ill cut down and start off agane

[garrath]

killed the lot b ut have more in on new feed and all looks good

[garrath]

hello well its looking good well better but still geting the same thing but not as bad
can you tell me what my run off shud b is it just any wer in the 5.5 to 6.3 range ?
think ill have to get new coco must b sumet in the coco

[Purple Daddy]

Honestly? People make this way too complicated. Just get some miracle grow potting soil, feed with half strength MG and let the plants grow. I know it's not quite that simple but if you're going through this for the third time then I'd try something else.

Have you had a successfull grow yet? Take it from someone who has made a few major mistakes and try to keep it simple. Thats a pretty sick feeling to see happen to your plants. I fried 6 beautiful fully budding plants a good month in by trying to juice them as if that wasn't bad enough I had to tell my buddy who I promised a very nice fat bag once they were finished and I had been bragging about how we were gonna be set till next fall.

[garrath]

tinytoon r you around ?? your feeding
you say micro grow bloom is this all the way ?
as you change to 12 12 its 2.5 5 5 is this micro grow bloom ?or grow micro bloom ??
just checkin you ant got mixed up
thanx man


new ones r looking good even if it is not spot on