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dfisher1000
06-08-2011, 02:57 PM
Right, I'm using a 600w hps 6 inch extraction system 11 litre pots with canna coco. I'm growing 5 cheese plants which I brought from cuttings, iv had them in the tent for nearly 2 weeks using canna coco a and b, ph is 6.1. Over the last few days the new leaves have been kinda like bending right under and some twisting and the fan leaves really cupping up if there is someone out there who could shine a light on my situation it would be much appreciated thanks pics attached. ;-)276158276159276160

CanGroIt
06-08-2011, 03:49 PM
Your attachments lead to an invalid error message...

For the best responses, take a few minutes and fill out the troubleshooting form. Find it, copy, come back here, reply, paste, answer the questions and wait for the best responses. At this point, all we can do is guess...

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dfisher1000
06-08-2011, 04:52 PM
H=Answer if you grow hydro or aero C=Answer if you grow coco S=Answer if you grow traditional soil L=Answer if you grow soilless other than coco (Promix, Hyponex, SunshineMix) R=Answer if you grow in RockWool T=Answer if you grow in HydroTon D=Answer if you run any type of automatic drip system, including into soil or soilless E= EVERYONE needs to answer lol!

E-indoor or outdoor E-soil, soilless, coco, aero, or hydroponic E-specific medium CSL-Soil type/brand HCL-Hydro/aero/soilless system type SCL-Anything you have added to the soil SCLR-Soil or slab runoff pH E-Water source E-Source water pH HRT-Source water EC (if hydro) E-Age of plant E-Type of fertilizer E-Rate of application (if hydro, this is your PPM number, preferably after each component is added) E-Lighting source and distance from plant E-Air temperature (both day and night if you are running a dark period) HD-Reservoir temperature E-Air % Relative humidity E-Lighting schedule E-Type of ventilation your room has TR-Did you pre-soak your media in pH corrected solution?

CanGroIt
06-08-2011, 05:00 PM
Not that one...

This one-----> http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-problems/173775-cancom-copy-n-paste-troubleshooting-forms.html

dfisher1000
06-08-2011, 05:05 PM
Right, here we go.

C - canna coco pro plus
Indoor

Water source ph-8.4 run off 6.2

Plants 3 weeks old

Canna coco a and b roughly 1 litre fed to each pot once a day

Ppm 1120

600w hps 1.5 foot from plants

Day temp between 88f and 92f, night temp between 72f and 76f

Humidity around 50

6inch extraction

Hope that's enough info ps I will try posting pics again ;-)

dfisher1000
06-08-2011, 06:04 PM
What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...)

What type of hydro set-up are you running?

Your Equipment:
A) Type and wattage of lights. (MH, HPS, CFL's, tube fluorescents, LED's) --- HPS
B) Distance from tops?---- 1.5 FOOT
C) Reflector type? (cool tube set-up, bat wing, enclosed reflector, bare bulb...)--- REFLECTOR BARE BULB
D) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? 600 W HPS UNSURE OF KELVIN AND SCHEDULE
E) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? Yes
F) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? Yes
G) Size of reservoir? NO RES, FEED BY HAND
H) What medium if applicable. COCO PROFESSIONAL PLUS

Your nutrients and water:
I) If using rockwoll for clones or seedlings, did you rinse the cubes well, with properly ph'd water?
J) Source of water. (tap or filtered) What's it's ph? TAP 8.4 ABOUT
K) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule. 5-4-3 CANNA COCO 40ML A AND 40ML B PER 10 LITRE. 1 LITRE PER POT PER DAY
L) What is the ec/ppm of your unadjusted tap (or filtered) water? 5PPM
M) What is the ec/ppm of your nutrient solution? 1120PPM
N) What is the temperature of your nutrient solution? (reservoir high and low temps) NA
O) Does your ec/ppm show a rise or fall when you do your daily PPM check? NA
P) Does the ph fluctuate? NA
Q) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray? (Just after lights come on, just before they go out...) NO
R) How often do you replace reservoir water/nutes? What does it look like before changes? (clear, foamy, green, brown...)

Your growroom:
S) What size of closet, room or hut? 1.2m x 1.2m x 2.0m tall
T) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off? LIGHTS ON 88F-92F 50-65 HUMIDITY LIGHTS OFF 72F-76F HUMIDITY SAME AS LIGHTS ON
U) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom? YES BUT LOOKS LIKE MITES ARE ALL GONE NOW
V) Are the roots long and white, or brown and slimy? CAN'T SEE INTO COCO

Your strain:
W) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?) UNSURE! I KNOW IT'S CHEESE THOUGH
X) From seeds or clones? CLONES
Y) Is this an autoflower strain? UNSURE

dfisher1000
06-08-2011, 06:13 PM
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319
06-08-2011, 09:10 PM
heat stress.

With your high temps maybe this strain can't handle it. Bring the temps down to 75-85 tops. I thought it was cooper or N overdose when I first looked at it, but I see that cheese strains have longer leafs.

Control those temps my friend.

Keepin it Cool
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dfisher1000
06-08-2011, 09:41 PM
I thought heat stress could be a possibility but I'm rele struggling to keep the temps down but the temps have always been the same so why now after 2 weeks are they looking stressed

319
06-09-2011, 01:28 AM
Not everything happens overnight, pimpin is a slow process homie. lol

But really sometimes it takes awhile to see issues with your plants. There are strains that actually would do fine or should I say better in a hotter climate then maybe the one your growing. Just saying for next summer think of that.

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Rusty Trichome
06-09-2011, 01:43 PM
It's not a heat issue.

Do your nutrients recommend thet you feed the ladies every day...? Usually, the application/dosage rates are for a 1 week period.

Coco retains salts, creating a build-up. A flush with properly ph'd water every once in a while (every few weeks or so) is recommended.

Humidity is a tad high for my liking.

What are you using to adjust ingoing water ph?

tinytoon
06-09-2011, 05:42 PM
What are you using to adjust ingoing water ph?

I was curious about this as well. The way I read it was in at 8.4 and out at 6.2

MEDEDCANNABIS
06-09-2011, 09:25 PM
I thought heat stress could be a possibility but I'm rele struggling to keep the temps down but the temps have always been the same so why now after 2 weeks are they looking stressed

i feel ya man. temps are a bitch. two weeks of heat makes me stress...thats your main problem.

dfisher1000
06-15-2011, 06:29 AM
I've flushed them with ph'd water and omg that's what the babies wanted they are looking absolutely brilliant and have had an incredible growth spurt, iv also brought the temps down to 85. Thanks for the help people, couldnt have done it without you