Bag seeds, CFL's,MG Organic and Me!

[four20twen]

What's up everyone, we're going to be following the the third grow today, I just hope the outcome will produce some nice eye candy for the board and a lot more for the smoker.

The area is about 3 1/2 ft deep, 3 1/2 ft wide and 5 ft tall but the ceiling gradually slopes down going from 5' to the floor. There's 5 seedlings, Eight 100w cfl's at 1750 lumens each and i believe they are each 5700k, the ventilation could be better, using MG Organic potting soil, nothing else as of now and the lights are on 24/7.

They had quite a bit of stretching at first but have started groing more leaves now and not getting as tall. Noticing some yellowing of the leave's, thinking a little to much watering and got nute burn? Or maybe these babies need some 'N' it's so hard to differentiate between the two. All the help is greatly appreciated, been reading this board for at least a year now...Thanks.

[four20twen]

Better quality pictures coming soon...sorry.<br>
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[green420]

......maybe these babies need some 'N'

I faced a problem ......... the leafs of my plants had got white shading. i got rid of it by using more light.... (by the help of the info of this forum)

pls give a short details of nutes.......I hope somebody will be able to figure it out

[four20twen]

Thanks for the advice, not using any nutes at the moment although fox farm tiger bloom,grow big and big bloom along with a little bottle of superthrive are all on deck

[donnachris]

i'm a newbie, but imve been reading for about c hours a day for the past 8 months. and when i think bloom i think flower. i think your gonna have someone post that says you shouldnt be using the bloom nutes until you put it into 12/12 flower lighting. but thats just my opinion.

[four20twen]

Not using any nutes yet, just listing the ones that will be used when the time comes.

[bluntar]

how long till they get in to bigger homes?

[four20twen]

Ok here's an update...still haven't found the cable to connect the camera to the computer to give you guys quality photos (troubles of life)...anyway we have MG soil, fox farm big bloom/grow big/tiger bloom and Eight 100w cfl's at 1750 lumens each and i believe they are each 5700k and Four 2700k lights i think they are 800+ lumens and today marks 4 weeks of flowering. I've been reading nute problem charts for a while now and find it difficult to differentiate the difference between N-P deficiency/over water/over fert.

The lower leaves turn brown on the tips and slowly turn yellow (beginning at the tip) then brown and die off. The leaves towards the top have a slight brown/yellow color and the very tip and have stayed like that withouth the discoloration progressing but the older leaves continue doing the same thing...i believe i have an over fert problem and just watered yesterday with 1/2 cup of water only.

[four20twen]

Actually its not letting me attach photos through this reply ...so let me try and figure this out

[four20twen]

Added pics to my album...hopefuly that will do for now...thanks in advanced for any and all input ;)

[Treez81]

What is ur water and feed schedule. What is the ingoing and outgoing ph. In the future I would recommend using ffof for soil. Lots of people use mg tho with success. U will just have to play with it. Especially add some perlite. Filling out the troubleshooting form will get u better help.

[four20twen]

Well they were being watered with a cup of water every 3 days....feeding them pretty much everytime thinking that my leaf discoloration was due to N-P deficiency and probably due to the greed of wanter huge buds. They are being fed fox farm big bloom and tiger bloom. Will get back to you on the in/outgoing ph upon the next watering...then i'll include it with the troubleshooting form.

[four20twen]

SOIL- MG ORGANIC POTTING SOIL AND PERLITE
WATERING SCHED-WATERING EVERY 3 DAYS FEEDING WITH FOX FARM TIGER BLOOM AND BIG BLOOM
LOCATION-Indoor
PH IN/OUTGOING - COMING SOON (TAP WATER)
AGE- 4 weeks of flowering as of 06-23-2011
LIGHTS - six 100w cfl's at 1750 lumens each and i believe they are each 5700k and four other cfl's hanging at the sides of the plants that are 2700k and 875 lumens
VENTILATION - Plenty (keep the area open while lights are on with a fan blowing)...closed for night time
LIGHTING SCHED- 12/12

p.s. -adding a new pic to the album to better show the entire setup

[four20twen]

New photos added to the album

[Treez81]

U really need to get a ph meter. I use the fox farm trio and tiger bloom really makes my ph drop. I have to use general hydroponics ph up to get it back to right. U should also refer to their feeding schedule. It says to feed every other watering. If I were u I would start reading everything u can. There is much more to this than dirt water and food.

[four20twen]

I got ya...was being real lazy with this grow...i have a ph meter just wasn't using it and i knew they shouldn't be fed everytime but couldn't differentiate overfert signs from N-P deficiency (stared at those charts day after day) so kept feeding and feeding and feeding but yes the fox farm feeding chart is on hand. They'll be getting water tomorrow so the ph will be measured then...hopefuly they aren't to damaged to grow some decent bud from this point...what do you think? i think the growth is a little slower than normal but at least they are still showing growth from day to day ;)

p.s. -have been reading about hydro setups and can't waite to go that route for the next one plus a friend has been doing it the hydro way for a couple years so there will be a coach in the corner the whole way.

[Treez81]

I think ur plants will be fine. Just give them a good flush then continue feeding but with properly phd product. Also, start using molasses at two teaspoons per gallon when u feed. Does wonders.

[four20twen]

Will do...thank you kindly for the help

[four20twen]

When measuring the ph of a 2 liter filled with tap water (two metal prongs suspened in water) it reads 5.5 but if i pour the water into a plastic cup and measure it with the two metal prongs touching the bottom of the cup the water measures 7....? i'm puzzled any input...please and thank you very much ;)

[four20twen]

Alright went and got a different ph tester, the tap water alone is about 7.5 and comes out about 7 so that will be slightly adjusted, and when they get their next feeding (water with nutes) the in/out ph will be adjusted and hopefully come out correct since the ph up/ph down is now on hand. I measured the ph of the nute/water that has been sitting for a couple weeks and it was about 6 but i'll be using fresh nute/water and adjust the ph to about 7 and hopefuly wit will come out between the 6.5-7 range....gonna try and realy find the cable to the digi cam so quality pics can be posted and hopefully we can get the most out of the remaining flowering period.

[four20twen]

Update: Flushed all 4 plants last night with 6 gallons (they are in 3g pots) of water ph adjusted to about 7 and poured nearly a cup of water with half strength nutes in each. Measured the last part of the run off, after they had been sitting for about 15min. and the ph read about 6.5

p.s. - Tomorrow will be the 5th week of flowering counting from the day 12/12 was started.

[four20twen]

Don't know why it won't let me put the pics right here but i added better quality pics of the progress so far. 07/07/2011 will be 6 weeks of flowering. Growth seems to be pretty slow...they got flushed during their 5th week of flowering so that may have contributed to the stunt in growth or i was also thinking that the soil may not have enough perlite added and is retaining a lot of water, hope these girls will pull through and prove to be decent at least. (MG Organic potting soil/Perlite,cfl,foxfarm tiger bloom/big bloom) - water every 3 days - nutes every other watering...The outgoing ph is 6.5 according to a liquid test

[four20twen]

GIRL 1 http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc151/dkbanger/M1.jpg
GIRL 1A http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc151/dkbanger/M1a.jpg
GIRL 2 http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc151/dkbanger/M2.jpg
GIRL 2A http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc151/dkbanger/M2a.jpg
GIRL 3 http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc151/dkbanger/M3.jpg
GIRL 3A http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc151/dkbanger/M3a.jpg
GIRL 4 http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc151/dkbanger/M4.jpg
GIRL 4A http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc151/dkbanger/M4a.jpg

[washmedical]

nice ladies

[four20twen]

Thanks...waiting for that final product.

[four20twen]

Any suggestions if the growth seems stunted in the 6th week of flowring for a cfl/soil grow? The soil may be retaining more water than necessary due to the lack of enough perlite in the mixture...i don't know i just want them to come out victorious :). The most recent pics above are from the 5th week of flowering, more will be posted during the 7th week and we'll be able to see the progress.

[four20twen]

7 WEEKS OF FLOWERING

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