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CogWheeler
04-18-2011, 11:48 AM
Hello, I grow four different landraces and have named my favorite mother of each strain:

Chuc-Nu
A South-East Asian strain from the Dalat area of Vietnam. Two Californian Vietnam War veterans have told me it reminds them of home in the 70s, but younger people think it resembles the original Kali Mist of the early 90s. The high is focused and energizing, good for getting work done.

Chantico
A Mexian variety from north Sinaloa. I've been told by quite a few retirees over here that it is reminiscent of the original Haze of the late 70s, early 80s. The high is trippy but clear.

Unwaba
A South African plant, from the province of Mpumalanga. It is likely the landrace Durban Poison was developed from. The high is very uplifting, almost euphoric.

Tamara
A Malawi mother, from Nkhata Bay on the shores of Lake Malawi. It's basically Malawi Gold in looks and high. The high is a very long-lasting African Sativa high.

I'm happy with all four girls, and I plan on keeping them just as they are. They all have clear, uppety, cerebral, Sativa highs, with almost no couch-lock body stone - smoking too much gives visuals, if that's your thing, but personally, I'd rather stay functional.

However, I would like to start a breeding experiment with them, and get even more of three characteristics:


A psychedelic high.
A giggling high.
A social, chatty high.


These three characteristics are in there to what I consider a weak degree, or maybe I'm just a perfectionist.

Do you guys think these three aspects are already in there in "hidden force"? Do I just need to combine a couple of the above and those characteristics will emerge stronger, and then I inbreed until it's stable? I'm kind of reluctant to add more genetics to my small garden.

Or am I missing genetics? Is there a fifth plant out there that is psychedelic, giggly, and chatty without a body stone, and I should go and get it?

I don't care so much about yield or looks, and I definitely don't want to add even a trace of couch-lock body stone.

Maybe it's just me that's not a giggly and talkative person, because I've seen friends double over in laughter from all four of them, especially the Chantico and the Chuc-Nu. Our maid, for example, was running around making piss-poor jokes while mopping on Chuc-Nu yesterday, and she was laughing to herself and being very chatty.

Rusty Trichome
04-18-2011, 01:05 PM
Unless you have purebred indica or purebred sativa geneticss to work with, you are trying to raise latent expressions through hybrids of unknown/uncertain/mixed genetics. Most commercial breeders have hundreds or thousands of plants they grow, to select a small hand full of those that are showing the expressions they're looking for.

Although you can use selective breeding to 'change' the genetic expressions, there's no guide that say's that you need to cross plant "A" with plant "c", then backcross the results with plant "A" to get more trichomes per square inch, or to get a different medicative effect, or to reduce chances of hermaphrodism...
On a small scale, you will likely be unsucessful at pinpointing, isoating, or encouraging specific latent expressions in offspring. Technically...it's a crap-shoot.

-But-

You can easily use plant maturity to adjust aroma's, flavor's, and medicative effects.

sunbiz1
04-22-2011, 12:59 AM
Unless you have purebred indica or purebred sativa geneticss to work with, you are trying to raise latent expressions through hybrids of unknown/uncertain/mixed genetics. Most commercial breeders have hundreds or thousands of plants they grow, to select a small hand full of those that are showing the expressions they're looking for.

Although you can use selective breeding to 'change' the genetic expressions, there's no guide that say's that you need to cross plant "A" with plant "c", then backcross the results with plant "A" to get more trichomes per square inch, or to get a different medicative effect, or to reduce chances of hermaphrodism...
On a small scale, you will likely be unsucessful at pinpointing, isoating, or encouraging specific latent expressions in offspring. Technically...it's a crap-shoot.

-But-

You can easily use plant maturity to adjust aroma's, flavor's, and medicative effects.

You know why you suck so much?...b/c your sorry ass is right more often than not...lol

MDFinest
04-23-2011, 06:07 PM
I got to agree with the statement about Rusty.. :smokin:

sunbiz1
04-23-2011, 11:52 PM
You know why you suck so much?...b/c your sorry ass is right more often than not...lol

That was intended as a sarcastic compliment in my own way. It's almost to the point where I would rather grow a new strain to a 12" height, then flower and sample it to see if it's worth the effort. I've had mixed results using what some call bag seed over the past several years, all of which were top notch commercial genetics. The more I work with a particular strain, the better I become w/the final product. Perhaps I'll cave in someday and order from a seed bank, but am pleased enough with the last batch to continue the hold-out.

Happy Easter!