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porone
03-16-2011, 03:56 PM
I cant beleive it realy says that,but it does LOL

Check this out

Medical marijuana hearing nods to "Drugs are Bad, M'Kay" South Park ep? (VIDEO, PHOTOS) - Denver News - The Latest Word (http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2011/03/medical_marijuana_south_park_drugs_are_bad.php?pag e=2)

That wil save the kids from the devil weed:wtf:

DenverRelief
03-16-2011, 06:28 PM
I cant beleive it realy says that,but it does LOL

Check this out

Medical marijuana hearing nods to "Drugs are Bad, M'Kay" South Park ep? (VIDEO, PHOTOS) - Denver News - The Latest Word (http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2011/03/medical_marijuana_south_park_drugs_are_bad.php?pag e=2)

That wil save the kids from the devil weed:wtf:

That is truly telling of how frivolous this bill is.

Isn't quoting a popular cartoon on your labeling akin to advertising to kids???

I know kids would have a really hard time tearing through that paper.

Commonsense people.

Keep sharp objects, and medicated treats out of sight and reach. No problem.

porone
03-17-2011, 01:17 AM
That is truly telling of how frivolous this bill is.

Isn't quoting a popular cartoon on your labeling akin to advertising to kids???

I know kids would have a really hard time tearing through that paper.

Commonsense people.

Keep sharp objects, and medicated treats out of sight and reach. No problem.

HEE HEE I thought it was funny before you pointed out marketing to kids M Kay
south park is a kick Our law makers not so mutch

copobo
03-17-2011, 01:58 AM
what a bunch of buffoons we have in our legislature.

the New Hampshire house just voted in favor of mmj 421-96 - something our legislature had to be forced into with a popular vote. And they are STILL trying to override the voters!

NH House tries again to legalize medical marijuana - Boston.com (http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2011/03/16/nh_house_tries_again_to_legalize_medical_marijuana/)

there hasn't been ONE progressive piece of legislation about MMJ in Colorado. It's all been about bigotry and misunderstanding, and catering to the bigots and misunderstanders.

HighPopalorum
03-17-2011, 02:25 AM
Hmmm.... I think Colorado has some of the most progressive marijuana laws in the country. Even among states with MMJ programs, Colorado and Cali are the two progressive standouts.

copobo
03-17-2011, 02:34 AM
only as a response to voter initiative. I think we are the only one that has it as part of the state constitution. (?) everything since has been limiting those rights, and centered on commerce.

HighPopalorum
03-17-2011, 02:51 AM
Really? You don't think it's progressive for cities and counties to allow retail medical marijuana sales? Community after community has integrated large-scale legal marijuana sale into the social and economic fabric. City councils have voted, city planners have plotted, county attorneys have been consulted and thousands of legal marijuana businesses are serving hundreds of thousands of patients. You say nothing has happened since A20, but would you really want to turn back the clock to 2003 when only a tiny fraction of today's patients were accommodated? There has been HUGE, MONUMENTAL, UNDENIABLE progress since then, not only w/r/t MMJ but also many local "last priority" initiatives and of course the narrowly-defeated legalization measure. Colorado is a hotbed for progressive marijuana legislation and I expect it will remain so.

copobo
03-17-2011, 03:47 AM
I know you love all this regulation, but its been excessive. We are crushing small, quality commercial enterprises. We are crushing patients and non-profit caregivers. We're forcing them to do worse. It was a new industry that just needed to figure itself out, and now, as long as the sell out isn't so bad, it's okay. systematically taking everything away.

here. is. your. crumb.

all of the changes in Colorado are directly related to voter initiative, and not progressive thought on mmj by our legislature. 'the genie is out of the bottle' was their progressive mentality.

copobo
03-17-2011, 03:52 AM
and progressive regulators like Josh Stanley are trying to lock out competition for another year.

people like Josh are what regulation is all about.

HighPopalorum
03-17-2011, 04:36 AM
Sure, I guess that's one way to frame the narrative. Another one is to say that Obama's policy change started a green rush, and our legislators embraced it. The easy thing would have been to pass laws to restrict the program to what it had been 2001-2009: a small, sad, little program where very few caregivers served very few patients. No other state did what we did: provide legislative guidance for communities statewide to incorporate the tide of new businesses and patients into civil society. Instead of seeing bigotry, I see state and local officials, however misguided, staggering, stumbling, lurching toward a better approach to marijuana than prohibition, honestly grappling with issues like buffer zones between centers and schools, plant counts and license fees, health inspectors and labeling standards. They won't get all of it right the first time, or the second.

DenverRelief
03-17-2011, 04:36 PM
I agree HighPop, it is an enormous benefit for future legalization that our representatives, and council members are considering these issues.

IMO we have done a hundred times better than Cali by making medical marijuana sales fit a retail model.

Copobo, I am fully aware that you disagree, but I have a job because of the retail model. So do 10 of my coworkers who wouldn't otherwise. In order to have this model it must be regulated.

If people are being crushed then they need to work on their business acumen, and perhaps should have anticipated the regulations before dropping their life-savings into flawed business plans.

It's a rush, so it's going to be hyper-competitive.

While I think it is important to be vocal in the process as we continue to make regulatory decisions in the state, we have to know that if retail marijuana is to persist in any form, (medical or recreational) we have to do it in a way that respects non-toking joe-citizens.

senorx12562
03-18-2011, 03:35 AM
The retail model will give the feds all these easy and huge targets to pursue when the worm inevitably turns. I'm not looking forward to the pogrom, but I think it's coming. It won't leave much time for them to come after small-scale home grows though.

DenverRelief
03-18-2011, 04:38 PM
Raids certainly have been in the news this week. However, most of the accusations are about tax fraud are tax evasion.

Maybe this is just wishful thinking, but if you keep everything above the board as a business, IRS audits aren't a problem, and the Feds wont have much to say.

Why must the worm turn? A constitutional amendment carries a lot of momentum and as a social movement marijuana is well on its way in this country.

senorx12562
03-19-2011, 02:16 AM
Raids certainly have been in the news this week. However, most of the accusations are about tax fraud are tax evasion.

Maybe this is just wishful thinking, but if you keep everything above the board as a business, IRS audits aren't a problem, and the Feds wont have much to say.

Why must the worm turn? A constitutional amendment carries a lot of momentum and as a social movement marijuana is well on its way in this country.

I hope you are right, but something tells me the drug warriors are not going to just slink off into the night.