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ncgysfnshlst
02-15-2011, 03:42 AM
alot of people claiming that we need lab sterilization standards set in place in order to achieve optimal results when cloning.
its bogus
i purposely this time around did not soak rockwool cubes over night and check ph, pffffff (soaked them in a water/clonex solution till soggy right before i stuck the dirty scissor to make a hole to about a half an inch from bottom then clonex gelled all up that stem piece, covering the mangled bottom of stem.)
i purposely used the filthiest scissors i could find covered in something old resin i dont know and didnt care
and guess what ?
everything went as nature intended as it should of.
9 out of 9 clones rooted, 2 different strains so one type rooted in
5 days the other 12 days
the trick is simple, the accurate info is as such:

HUMIDITY 100% THATS IT dont ask a question of what else it could be


and a second tip for finicky strains is. ie sour diesel

after the next morning doing the whole thing and putting them in humidity dome, maybe till the after noon they will all be erect all showing promise.
when the time comes for the finicky strains start drooping and the humidity is at 100% cut off the big fan leaves, thats right both(yes leave it looking like its dead 1 cute tiny leaf left, funny looking but true.
the next day presto bammo once again erect and stable and happy as a mofo

my contribution because of how big an asshole i am to the "bad people".
thanks

wkpjr1967
02-15-2011, 04:26 AM
It's funny that you should mention this.
I was dropping of some meds to a friend who invited me to take some cuts.
He almost had a heat attack when I whipped out my box cutter and started taking cuts "without sterilizing the blade"!

OldHead09
02-15-2011, 12:38 PM
alot of people claiming that we need lab sterilization standards set in place in order to achieve optimal results when cloning.
its bogus
i purposely this time around did not soak rockwool cubes over night and check ph, pffffff (soaked them in a water/clonex solution till soggy right before i stuck the dirty scissor to make a hole to about a half an inch from bottom then clonex gelled all up that stem piece, covering the mangled bottom of stem.)
i purposely used the filthiest scissors i could find covered in something old resin i dont know and didnt care
and guess what ?
everything went as nature intended as it should of.
9 out of 9 clones rooted, 2 different strains so one type rooted in
5 days the other 12 days
the trick is simple, the accurate info is as such:

HUMIDITY 100% THATS IT dont ask a question of what else it could be


and a second tip for finicky strains is. ie sour diesel

after the next morning doing the whole thing and putting them in humidity dome, maybe till the after noon they will all be erect all showing promise.
when the time comes for the finicky strains start drooping and the humidity is at 100% cut off the big fan leaves, thats right both(yes leave it looking like its dead 1 cute tiny leaf left, funny looking but true.
the next day presto bammo once again erect and stable and happy as a mofo

my contribution because of how big an asshole i am to the "bad people".
thanks
Ahh..this is so elementary..thank you for blessing us with this knowledgeable new way to clone...Gee, this cloning method is simple and easy. RezDog really made this method high profile, so congrats for finally catching up to the rest of us...Once again a wannabe elitest has shared his ego with us all...we should pay homage

theccman
02-15-2011, 03:32 PM
Ahh..this is so elementary..thank you for blessing us with this knowledgeable new way to clone...Gee, this cloning method is simple and easy. RezDog really made this method high profile, so congrats for finally catching up to the rest of us...Once again a wannabe elitest has shared his ego with us all...we should pay homage

Not gay, just admire your bluntnes...lol

This guy thinks he's the God of MM...:D

He probably doesn't even know that a few drops of dish detergent increases oxygen intake in your soil or that molasses or powedered sugar dissolved in water during the last 6 week of flowering can increase your yield by almost 20% (keep an eye on the mixture those, over kill can cause mold on your root system)....aaahhhhh what a world!!!:)

rayb73
02-15-2011, 05:44 PM
hello ncgysfnshlst,what kind of powdered sugar can you use?i have heard of people doing that and it seems easier than mollases.

OldHead09
02-15-2011, 08:43 PM
hello ncgysfnshlst,what kind of powdered sugar can you use?i have heard of people doing that and it seems easier than mollases.


This ncgysfnshlst is a quack....the only powder he does gets put up his nose, any advice you get from that source should be heeded with an idiot warning..:smokin:

kodabear
02-15-2011, 09:13 PM
This ncgysfnshlst is a quack....the only powder he does gets put up his nose, any advice you get from that source should be heeded with an idiot warning..:smokin:

Sound advice OldHead. ncgyswallowlst is a "whackJob" :thumbsup:

rayb73
02-15-2011, 09:34 PM
arent we all a little whacked out in the head?:stoned:

OldHead09
02-15-2011, 09:47 PM
arent we all a little whacked out in the head?:stoned:
Uhh..No.

kodabear
02-15-2011, 10:08 PM
Uhh..No.

You gotta be fucking kidding me?:wtf:

hghflyrjd1
02-15-2011, 10:31 PM
arent we all a little whacked out in the head?:stoned:

Oh Boy

wkpjr1967
02-15-2011, 11:13 PM
Not gay, just admire your bluntnes...lol

This guy thinks he's the God of MM...:D

He probably doesn't even know that a few drops of dish detergent increases oxygen intake in your soil or that molasses or powedered sugar dissolved in water during the last 6 week of flowering can increase your yield by almost 20% (keep an eye on the mixture those, over kill can cause mold on your root system)....aaahhhhh what a world!!!:)


I use molasses as part of the compost tea that I use as the basis of my feeding program.
The plants love it!
Adding the molasses is easy.
I boil a cup of water and add 2 ounces of blackstrap molasses.
Stir well and let cool.

My compost tea recipe

In preparation you must aerate 5 gallons of water.
I am lucky to have good water so I just use tap water.
Using a cheap aquarium air pump and air stones aerate the water for at least 24 hours.

Take 1 pound of earthworm castings and some cheese cloth or a nylon sock
Wrap up your earthworm castings in the cloth/sock and put this in the water.
soak for 24 hours

Add
2 ounces of Humic Acid liquid concentrate
2 ounces liquid or powdered kelp
2 ounces Thrive Alive B1
2 ounce of blackstrap molasses (1 cup cooled molasses water mix)

Let mixture "cook" (keep aerating) for 24 hours.

When mixture is done "cooking" I add my fertilizer and feed.

Use within 24 hours

kodabear
02-16-2011, 12:00 AM
I use molasses as part of the compost tea that I use as the basis of my feeding program.
The plants love it!
Adding the molasses is easy.
I boil a cup of water and add 2 ounces of blackstrap molasses.
Stir well and let cool.

My compost tea recipe

In preparation you must aerate 5 gallons of water.
I am lucky to have good water so I just use tap water.
Using a cheap aquarium air pump and air stones aerate the water for at least 24 hours.

Take 1 pound of earthworm castings and some cheese cloth or a nylon sock
Wrap up your earthworm castings in the cloth/sock and put this in the water.
soak for 24 hours

Add
2 ounces of Humic Acid liquid concentrate
2 ounces liquid or powdered kelp
2 ounces Thrive Alive B1
2 ounce of blackstrap molasses (1 cup cooled molasses water mix)

Let mixture "cook" (keep aerating) for 24 hours.

When mixture is done "cooking" I add my fertilizer and feed.

Use within 24 hours BIG ups WK,Nice recipe.Do you add any Bat Guono the last few weeks of flower.:)

rayb73
02-16-2011, 01:27 AM
thanks for the recipe,i think im gonna try it.

omnibuddy
02-16-2011, 04:26 AM
...HUMIDITY 100% THATS IT dont ask a question of what else it could be...

...when the time comes for the finicky strains start drooping and the humidity is at 100% cut off the big fan leaves, thats right both...

What I have heard is that you can also cut the FAN leaves right away. I think waiting until the plant shows signs of dehydration will stress it.

The reason you cut them is Transpiration:
The plant (clone) cant get water efficiently because it doesn't have a root system yet. The plant begins to dehydrate because of the process of transpiration (loss of water via leaves). Transpiration is a normal natural process, but cutting the big fan leaves cuts the amount of transpiration significantly and thus protects the plant from dehydration while it makes new roots.

khyberkitsune
02-16-2011, 05:09 AM
What I have heard is that you can also cut the FAN leaves right away. I think waiting until the plant shows signs of dehydration will stress it.

The reason you cut them is Transpiration:
The plant (clone) cant get water efficiently because it doesn't have a root system yet. The plant begins to dehydrate because of the process of transpiration (loss of water via leaves). Transpiration is a normal natural process, but cutting the big fan leaves cuts the amount of transpiration significantly and thus protects the plant from dehydration while it makes new roots.

Just do your cut underwater.

Osmotic pressure handles the rest. No need to cut your fan leaves (the plant will draw from those for making roots,) no need to do anything but keep water in the tray.

Solid roots in 2 weeks guaranteed - perfect for those running staggered systems.

And that's at 20% humidity, BTW.

wkpjr1967
02-16-2011, 07:00 AM
BIG ups WK,Nice recipe.Do you add any Bat Guono the last few weeks of flower.:)

I am thinking of using fossilized seabird guano for the boost in P for the finish.
I have used bat guano in the past in place of the earthworm castings with good results.
You can play around with this recipe as it is a good base for growth.

oceangrown
02-16-2011, 11:52 AM
alot of people claiming that we need lab sterilization standards set in place in order to achieve optimal results when cloning.
its bogus
i purposely this time around did not soak rockwool cubes over night and check ph, pffffff (soaked them in a water/clonex solution till soggy right before i stuck the dirty scissor to make a hole to about a half an inch from bottom then clonex gelled all up that stem piece, covering the mangled bottom of stem.)
i purposely used the filthiest scissors i could find covered in something old resin i dont know and didnt care
and guess what ?
everything went as nature intended as it should of.
9 out of 9 clones rooted, 2 different strains so one type rooted in
5 days the other 12 days
the trick is simple, the accurate info is as such:

HUMIDITY 100% THATS IT dont ask a question of what else it could be


and a second tip for finicky strains is. ie sour diesel

after the next morning doing the whole thing and putting them in humidity dome, maybe till the after noon they will all be erect all showing promise.
when the time comes for the finicky strains start drooping and the humidity is at 100% cut off the big fan leaves, thats right both(yes leave it looking like its dead 1 cute tiny leaf left, funny looking but true.
the next day presto bammo once again erect and stable and happy as a mofo

my contribution because of how big an asshole i am to the "bad people".
thanks

You contribution is worth shit like all the other garbage you drop everywhere. Sterilization isn't important for the clone, it is for the mother plant. If you have a plant with a virus , like tobacco mosaic. You go and take clones off of this plant , then you don't sterilize the cutting instrument . You go and cut another plant with the dirty instrument , no it has tobacco mosaic virus too. Now fuckoff with your grow tips

OldHead09
02-16-2011, 02:11 PM
You gotta be fucking kidding me?:wtf:

Yeah..I am kidding you.... I am a complete whackjob..... :):D:jointsmile:


Oh Boy

Or in Nycguysswallowfirst case, oh "boy"......:(


Not gay, just admire your bluntnes...lol



I am glad to hear you are not gay....although there is a certain member here who is gonna be mighty disappointed!!!! LOL



For real this is the last time, I take amusement in this Nycguysswallowlast but have decided for myself that in the future I will ignore all posts and threads this guy starts. He is bad for the MMJ community and should never be addressed here again. Why allow this assh*le to put so much negativety up, this guys just a troll/flame.

kodabear
02-16-2011, 02:56 PM
Yeah..I am kidding you.... I am a complete whackjob..... :):D:jointsmile:
OldHead,I hope you know I was in agreement with you.I just clicked on the wrong quote.As you are a fan of IC mag as well,Imagine if Nycswallower posted his shit on there.He would become the posterchild
for "summers Eve",along with anyone who befriended him.

Or in Nycguysswallowfirst case, oh "boy"......:( LOL....My belly is gonna start hurting again.



I am glad to hear you are not gay....although there is a certain member here who is gonna be mighty disappointed!!!! LOL
At least one. Maybe two,time will tell


For real this is the last time, I take amusement in this Nycguysswallowlast but have decided for myself that in the future I will ignore all posts and threads this guy starts. He is bad for the MMJ community and should never be addressed here again. Why allow this assh*le to put so much negativety up, this guys just a troll/flame. OldHead ,agreed! He has been entertaining at times,delusional at others.But a negative vibe at ALL times.He is not helpful to any community or forum.

khyberkitsune
02-16-2011, 03:52 PM
Pardon me, but sterilization IS important for the clone.

You might spread a virus or mildew to the clone, which gets sold with the purpose of being a mother plant, and bam, your new mom is a diseased bitch.

Sterilization is absolutely important in every phase. Lack of cleanliness will lead to everything from spider mites to mold to tobacco mosaic hitting your crop.

You'd better BELIEVE I keep my research facilities sterile.