1043 amendment torn up?

[porone]

Has anyone seen this

Medical marijuana amendment shredded by lawmaker after confrontation with advocate - Denver News - The Latest Word (http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2011/02/medical_marijuana_amendment_shredded_lawmaker_advo cate.php)

This shit is getting crazy

[jamessr]

Has anyone seen this

Medical marijuana amendment shredded by lawmaker after confrontation with advocate - Denver News - The Latest Word (http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2011/02/medical_marijuana_amendment_shredded_lawmaker_advo cate.php)

This shit is getting crazy

WOW.:wtf:

Guess it isn't just the mexican cartels with such an interest.:stoned: I am down with fair trade but, colorado mmj constitution/laws do not allow for such commerce from businesses claiming caregiver status...it just isn't there in the language written.

Only patients/caregiver model is written. If no explict provider language is included, they are excluded under the colorado CSA... commonsense rules?

[canniwhatsis]

Wow,... the westword would report something like that!? :wtf: :rolleyes:

[senorx12562]

WOW.:wtf:

Guess it isn't just the mexican cartels with such an interest.:stoned: I am down with fair trade but, colorado mmj constitution/laws do not allow for such commerce from businesses claiming caregiver status...it just isn't there in the language written.

Only patients/caregiver model is written. If no explict provider language is included, they are excluded under the colorado CSA... commonsense rules?
Not trying to be a dick, but I'm curious what makes you think you are such an expert in the law, particularly Colorado law, especially since I find most of your posts, including this one, to be pretty much unintelligible.

[canaguy27]

Please tell everyone to BOYCOTT BUDDING HEALTH. They are pushing for a caregiver registry among other things with their lobbyists. I have audio of Josh Stanley saying he called the police on vendors when they came into his shop. This was during the 1284 discussions.

They along with Wanda James were CMMR before it imploded. Avoid Budding Health AT ALL COSTS. Spread the word.

[copobo]

if he could, he'd make it so he was the only legal producer in the state.

[Zedleppelin]

Please tell everyone to BOYCOTT BUDDING HEALTH. They are pushing for a caregiver registry among other things with their lobbyists. I have audio of Josh Stanley saying he called the police on vendors when they came into his shop. This was during the 1284 discussions.

They along with Wanda James were CMMR before it imploded. Avoid Budding Health AT ALL COSTS. Spread the word.


Agreed. If it were not for these two I'm not sure 1284 would have came to be.

[TurboALLWD]

Is anyone else getting a vibe that this rep doesn't give a rats ass about patients? He tore a bill up because of one activist recording him? maybe they got into a heated arguement, doesn't matter, he just showed his real colors.

[jamessr]

Not trying to be a dick, but I'm curious what makes you think you are such an expert in the law, particularly Colorado law, especially since I find most of your posts, including this one, to be pretty much unintelligible.

Not taken as you being a dick and can understand your reason for your question...

One question? Is politics intelligible ?

I suppose if it was, we wouldn't be here all trying to make some sort of common-sense of what these fools are doing..

Have you figured it out yet? Well neither have they..:D

One does not have to be an expert in law to understand it, nor explain it.. you just need to have a license to practice it in a court of law...

You ask about my expertice.. WAG THE DOG.

Medical marijuana law is complex if you make it complex... and they make it real complex...they do this for a reason.

Now colorado mmj law is no different in foundation than any other state.. it is built upon public policy which doesn't exist but, we want it to exist cause we the people voted it in...IT IS OUR RIGHT DAMN IT !!

I as well as my family members and friends are affected negatively by our PUBLIC EMPLOYEES mis-applying our laws!!!

Come to find out though, our foundation we rest our lovely rights on, do not exist !!! So says every mmj state court so far, backed by federal courts...

So, as an advocate of our rights to have our employees offer honest services to the public... we must do some changes to our mmj laws to come into public policy compliance across the board...so we retain our rights to actually have some sort of standing without the cluter-fuck chit going on in every state...

Gonzales v. Oregon clearly lays down how this is done... SCHEDULE II. So when you are an advocate as I am, you tend to insert yourself into the mess and untangle the knotts..

Secondly, I take our leo to court in my county on P.C. criminal charges... I don't play well with others whom don't offer honest services to the public..;)

May I suggest if you find my post unintelligble to go here and research.
http://boards.cannabis.com/legal/195652-welcome-one-worlds-largest-free-law-libraries.html

Educate yourself in how our public employees interpret our we the people voted in cannabis laws..and when we don't agree and sue them for it..what those courts response is...

This is how one finds the flaws in the laws to change them for the better of us patients...

I only wish to point out the flaws, get them fixed and keep these asshole public employees out of our medical decisions...

Aside from that.. sorry if I have bothered you.:pimp:

[porone]

Wow,... the westword would report something like that!? :wtf: :rolleyes:

The westword is not the place I recomend you get most of your news from.I do check them out a couple times a week.I find they do come up with some good stuff some times.:rastasmoke::stoned:

[senorx12562]

Not taken as you being a dick and can understand your reason for your question...

One question? Is politics intelligible ?

I suppose if it was, we wouldn't be here all trying to make some sort of common-sense of what these fools are doing..

Have you figured it out yet? Well neither have they..:D

One does not have to be an expert in law to understand it, nor explain it.. you just need to have a license to practice it in a court of law...

You ask about my expertice.. WAG THE DOG.

Medical marijuana law is complex if you make it complex... and they make it real complex...they do this for a reason.

Now colorado mmj law is no different in foundation than any other state.. it is built upon public policy which doesn't exist but, we want it to exist cause we the people voted it in...IT IS OUR RIGHT DAMN IT !!

I as well as my family members and friends are affected negatively by our PUBLIC EMPLOYEES mis-applying our laws!!!

Come to find out though, our foundation we rest our lovely rights on, do not exist !!! So says every mmj state court so far, backed by federal courts...

So, as an advocate of our rights to have our employees offer honest services to the public... we must do some changes to our mmj laws to come into public policy compliance across the board...so we retain our rights to actually have some sort of standing without the cluter-fuck chit going on in every state...

Gonzales v. Oregon clearly lays down how this is done... SCHEDULE II. So when you are an advocate as I am, you tend to insert yourself into the mess and untangle the knotts..

Secondly, I take our leo to court in my county on P.C. criminal charges... I don't play well with others whom don't offer honest services to the public..;)

May I suggest if you find my post unintelligble to go here and research.
http://boards.cannabis.com/legal/195652-welcome-one-worlds-largest-free-law-libraries.html

Educate yourself in how our public employees interpret our we the people voted in cannabis laws..and when we don't agree and sue them for it..what those courts response is...

This is how one finds the flaws in the laws to change them for the better of us patients...

I only wish to point out the flaws, get them fixed and keep these asshole public employees out of our medical decisions...

Aside from that.. sorry if I have bothered you.:pimp:
Sorry I asked.

[HighPopalorum]

senorx and I are in agreement.

*head explodes*

[porone]

senorx and I are in agreement.

*head explodes*

And all the kings horses and all the kings men couldnt put highpop back together again:wtf:

[GratefulMeds]

Please tell everyone to BOYCOTT BUDDING HEALTH. They are pushing for a caregiver registry among other things with their lobbyists. I have audio of Josh Stanley saying he called the police on vendors when they came into his shop. This was during the 1284 discussions.

They along with Wanda James were CMMR before it imploded. Avoid Budding Health AT ALL COSTS. Spread the word.

I have been saying this before he had to change his name in disgrace to budding health from the peace and medicine center. He has been for shutting everyone down, hey and lets not forget the hundreds of thousands Boulder County Caregivers (didn't she have to change her name too?) and her Cartel spent on lobyist and filling pockets over three years ago! yes folks they have been planning this hostile takeover for many years. A group of 15 greedy growers as I remember the meeting in Cherry Creek trying to use farm co-op law at that time to shut out the little guy. Some of us woke up and saw what was going on quit others got kicked out because god forbid we had felonies or other reasons that it was made clear these were just some of the tools they would use against the patients and the real growers (you know the guys that paid the price, sometimes prison so you could smoke a bowel). So many of us started our own dispensaries to undercut the greedy bastards! You notice she is on the rule making panel wonder what that seat cost? :mad:

[senorx12562]

senorx and I are in agreement.

*head explodes*
Yeah, I almost invariably disagree with you, but at least I always know what you're saying. Jamessr, not so much.

[jamessr]

Yeah, I almost invariably disagree with you, but at least I always know what you're saying. Jamessr, not so much.

senorx, do you read the caselaw I post at all? Do you understand it[it being what the caselaw is about] and how to read it??

If not, this would explain why you don't understand Jamessr..;)

If you do, maybe your reading it wrong then...or not in context.

If it is not the caselaw but, my opinions you don't understand...or my political rational then please ask... don't bash me because you don't get it...wag the dog is the best political tool known to mankind. :D;)

If you don't understand what wag the dog means... by all means, look it up.

[Zedleppelin]

I have been saying this before he had to change his name in disgrace to budding health from the peace and medicine center. He has been for shutting everyone down, hey and lets not forget the hundreds of thousands Boulder County Caregivers (didn't she have to change her name too?) and her Cartel spent on lobyist and filling pockets over three years ago! yes folks they have been planning this hostile takeover for many years. A group of 15 greedy growers as I remember the meeting in Cherry Creek trying to use farm co-op law at that time to shut out the little guy. Some of us woke up and saw what was going on quit others got kicked out because god forbid we had felonies or other reasons that it was made clear these were just some of the tools they would use against the patients and the real growers (you know the guys that paid the price, sometimes prison so you could smoke a bowel). So many of us started our own dispensaries to undercut the greedy bastards! You notice she is on the rule making panel wonder what that seat cost? :mad:


Mike and his woman was also involved with this? Are you fucking kidding me?

[jamessr]

Mike and his woman was also involved with this? Are you fucking kidding me?

Sure makes one wonder who is who don't it?? not that I know who they are but, seems to be a bad virus going around... :( and not just in colorado either.

Cannabis seems to be breeding something it should not be breeding... GREED!!

[senorx12562]

senorx, do you read the caselaw I post at all? Do you understand it[it being what the caselaw is about] and how to read it??

If not, this would explain why you don't understand Jamessr..;)

If you do, maybe your reading it wrong then...or not in context.

If it is not the caselaw but, my opinions you don't understand...or my political rational then please ask... don't bash me because you don't get it...wag the dog is the best political tool known to mankind. :D;)

If you don't understand what wag the dog means... by all means, look it up.
You're obviously way smarter than me, or you have way better drugs, because I don't even understand your syntax, let alone your misuse of legal precedent that has no precedential value in the context in which you seek to apply it. Saying I don't understand you is not bashing you. It's just that you seem to be speaking Chinese.

[jamessr]

You're obviously way smarter than me, or you have way better drugs, because I don't even understand your syntax, let alone your misuse of legal precedent that has no precedential value in the context in which you seek to apply it. Saying I don't understand you is not bashing you. It's just that you seem to be speaking Chinese.

WAG THE DOG.... 100% political Dumbo jumbo.. has nothing to do with precedential value at all...i,e, CHINESE.

Now if you go to the legal case law, you can clearly see the Chinese our government is using... one must understand Chinese in order to decipher the case law our courts are using...

If you think I am incorrect, please post the correct legal case law which does apply to what these yahoos are doing... since my drugs are better.

I do not claim to be smarter then you at all... I just understand their lingo they are using and why they are using it... to speak to the public in CHINESE...

If we get invaded by china, who is going to pay for our defense?? Since we are in debt with china to the tune of ?? Oh, our country is "finacially" supported 100% by china... try figuring that political fuck-up out...:D

[HighPopalorum]

WAG THE DOG.... 100% political Dumbo jumbo.. has nothing to do with precedential value at all...i,e, CHINESE.

Now if you go to the legal case law, you can clearly see the Chinese our government is using... one must understand Chinese in order to decipher the case law our courts are using...

If you think I am incorrect, please post the correct legal case law which does apply to what these yahoos are doing... since my drugs are better.

I do not claim to be smarter then you at all... I just understand their lingo they are using and why they are using it... to speak to the public in CHINESE...

If we get invaded by china, who is going to pay for our defense?? Since we are in debt with china to the tune of ?? Oh, our country is "finacially" supported 100% by china... try figuring that political fuck-up out...:D

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[jamessr]

WAG THE DOG.... 100% political Dumbo jumbo.. has nothing to do with precedential value at all...i,e, CHINESE.

Now if you go to the legal case law, you can clearly see the Chinese our government is using... one must understand Chinese in order to decipher the case law our courts are using...

If you think I am incorrect, please post the correct legal case law which does apply to what these yahoos are doing... since my drugs are better.

I do not claim to be smarter then you at all... I just understand their lingo they are using and why they are using it... to speak to the public in CHINESE...

If we get invaded by china, who is going to pay for our defense?? Since we are in debt with china to the tune of ?? Oh, our country is "finacially" supported 100% by china... try figuring that political fuck-up out...:D

Example of we are "financially" broke as a nation, listen to this :

Meet the Press- msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032608/vp=41560686&#41560686)

And the chinese here:

The Bankruptcy of the United States (http://www.apfn.net/Doc-100_bankruptcy.htm)

[senorx12562]

Example of we are "financially" broke as a nation, listen to this :

Meet the Press- msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032608/vp=41560686&#41560686)

And the chinese here:

The Bankruptcy of the United States (http://www.apfn.net/Doc-100_bankruptcy.htm)
Still don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Quoting yourself and referring to yourself in the third person are indicative delusions of grandeur. I think you've gone off your thorazine.

[canniwhatsis]

Still don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Quoting yourself and referring to yourself in the third person are indicative delusions of grandeur. I think you've gone off your thorazine.

Interesting shit storm here. http://boards.cannabis.com/washington-wa/195576-rat.html :wtf:


@ James
So, while I appreciate the help with understanding some of the BS that goes thru the minds of the lawmakers, I've got to ask.

Why trolling the Co forums? :wtf:

[HighPopalorum]

Yeesh.... that's an acrimonious thread. Over here in the CO forums, we're tea sippers by comparison.

[canniwhatsis]

Yeesh.... that's an acrimonious thread. Over here in the CO forums, we're tea sippers by comparison.

Thanks HiPop, I Just learned a new word! :D


ac·ri·mo·ni·ous   
[ak-ruh-moh-nee-uhs]
â??adjective
caustic, stinging, or bitter in nature, speech, behavior, etc.: an acrimonious answer; an acrimonious dispute.

[jamessr]

Interesting shit storm here. http://boards.cannabis.com/washington-wa/195576-rat.html :wtf:


@ James
So, while I appreciate the help with understanding some of the BS that goes thru the minds of the lawmakers, I've got to ask.

Why trolling the Co forums? :wtf:

Trolling? Trolls don't help others understand things, do they? ;) I see a few here as well as yourself who do appreciate the informative info. but, as I myself, attest the drama.

As for the first remark... 1 word. drama...[ain't my thread]
http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-com-lounge/188030-my-neighbor.html

So does that satisfy your inquiring mind?

Point- I stepped into a thread with sandy barr and he is now banned for life.. remember that drama queen scene?? :thumbsup:

99.99 % of my threads/posts/responses are all about legal chit in our mmj communities... surely not to harm patients..but, help educate them in the laws and our misfortunes of having such derilicks running our country...

So at that end, hope you don't join the drama chit... stay focused on how to fix these laws, in all our mmj states.. after all.. ONLY WE CAN CHANGE IT.


<an acrimonious parting between the two former friends>

[canniwhatsis]

Like I said, I do appreciate the help.


As for Sandy? Nope, no clue what/who your talking about. :wtf:

Politics isn't my game, and I try to stay out of the threads.... Mostly I just lurk and read on them trying to stay abreast of the legal end of it all.

And as for that shitstorm,.... well, I don't live there, I'm not part of it, so I'm not gonna involve myself in that thread beyond reading it and the link that was posted. ;)


I guess "Trolling" really isn't the right word, but to answer your question, YES Trolls will help others understand things, be the trolls information right or wrong they WILL help out if it can create conflict! ;) (I know a guy on an RC forum who does that shit all the time! ;) )

[jamessr]

Like I said, I do appreciate the help.


As for Sandy? Nope, no clue what/who your talking about. :wtf:

Politics isn't my game, and I try to stay out of the threads.... Mostly I just lurk and read on them trying to stay abreast of the legal end of it all.

And as for that shitstorm,.... well, I don't live there, I'm not part of it, so I'm not gonna involve myself in that thread beyond reading it and the link that was posted. ;)


I guess "Trolling" really isn't the right word, but to answer your question, YES Trolls will help others understand things, be the trolls information right or wrong they WILL help out if it can create conflict! ;) (I know a guy on an RC forum who does that shit all the time! ;) )

I am no troll and am not here for conflict.. to that end, sorry you feel this way.. if you can pay close attention to the points about this caregiver bullshit and why they are doing it... my help has succeeded here.

I guess I should ask you this.. does the case law I posted make sense to you as far as what a CAREGIVER in colorado actually means under your constitution?? And how your courts interpret that meaning and why?? As I also showed that colorado is not the ONLY state with this issue with that word and it's use in reality... IT HAS NO PROVIDER COVERAGE FOR DISPENSARIES..

That my friend is the facts no-one has zero-ed in on yet... all the drama about these hearings would be gone if, some-one just put on the table for these folks... THE PROVIDER LINGO..

Simple common-sense without the drama going on..but, as you point out..what the hell do I know... I wasn't part of washingtons provider staute change from caregiver, or was I... sure shit I was..;)

[Zedleppelin]

Interesting shit storm here. http://boards.cannabis.com/washington-wa/195576-rat.html :wtf:




I feel like I just watched an episode of Jerry Springer, The Twilight Zone, and Deliverance all wrapped in one.

[jamessr]

I feel like I just watched an episode of Jerry Springer, The Twilight Zone, and Deliverance all wrapped in one.

No kidding huh? sure got the #'s up though...for those whom are counting.:wtf:

[TheReleafCenter]

Can anyone translate the first two pages for me? I tried Google's Mandarin to English app, no dice.

[HighPopalorum]

Can anyone translate the first two pages for me? I tried Google's Mandarin to English app, no dice.

100% Dumbo jumbo!

WAG THE DOG. Chinese!

Word. :pimp:

[DenverRelief]

"Logic is doubtless unshakable, but it cannot withstand a man who wants to go on living."
-Kafka

[senorx12562]

Rat.

[jamessr]

Rat.

Nice, you want to bring that here to this thread... geez.:wtf: How bout we keep it over in that thread..no need for drama queening here.

[TurboALLWD]

Wow, can we keep it on topic and keep it to patients in CO? That would be great. :thumbsup:

[jamessr]

Wow, can we keep it on topic and keep it to patients in CO? That would be great. :thumbsup:

Colorado mmj law needs a provider model. That is the bottom line here. The caregiver model specifically excludes the provider model. That is the problem here...

Hope you can all see this... if not, read that case law I posted in the other thread.

At that end, I came here to this co. section to post the relevant issue everyone is overlooking.. not to discuss drama from other threads.:thumbsup:

I sure hope someone can take this info. and present it to your legislature to end this crap for co. patients.. caregivers and providers both. It is all about us patients having ACCESS!!!...

Sincerely,
Jamessr

[Zedleppelin]

I sure hope someone can take this info. and present it to your legislature to end this crap


Yea....we'll get right on that.

[senorx12562]

Nice, you want to bring that here to this thread... geez.:wtf: How bout we keep it over in that thread..no need for drama queening here.
No, I'll just put an end to my participation in this thread.

Sincerely,

Drama Queen

[HighPopalorum]

On track:

Heh heh. The story made it to the Colorado Independent and to ColoradoPols, a not impartial source. Still, this is a messed up story. That amendment would have excluded video cameras from dispensaries, but was scuttled because Miguel Lopez, a guy who is on our side, made a prick of himself.

Miguel.... you and NORML still get my money, but I'd slap the shit out of you if you were here.

[copobo]

On track:

Heh heh. The story made it to the Colorado Independent and to ColoradoPols, a not impartial source. Still, this is a messed up story. That amendment would have excluded video cameras from dispensaries, but was scuttled because Miguel Lopez, a guy who is on our side, made a prick of himself.

Miguel.... you and NORML still get my money, but I'd slap the shit out of you if you were here.

it always pisses me off to have to agree with you

[senorx12562]

it always pisses me off to have to agree with you
Yeah, earlier in this thread he agreed with me. This thread is either magical or evil, in addition to bizarre.

[TurboALLWD]

it always pisses me off to have to agree with you

The rep wanted to rip the bill up, Miguel just gave him an excuse to do so. I don't care how pissed the rep got at one activist, thats not a good enough excuse to fuck all the mmj patients. Who cares if Miguel made a prick of himself, the rep did an even better job imo.

[jamessr]

The rep wanted to rip the bill up, Miguel just gave him an excuse to do so. I don't care how pissed the rep got at one activist, thats not a good enough excuse to fuck all the mmj patients. Who cares if Miguel made a prick of himself, the rep did an even better job imo.

I 2nd that.

[TheReleafCenter]

The rep wanted to rip the bill up, Miguel just gave him an excuse to do so. I don't care how pissed the rep got at one activist, thats not a good enough excuse to fuck all the mmj patients. Who cares if Miguel made a prick of himself, the rep did an even better job imo.

A lot of commentors on the Westword article insinuated there was a video that could exonerate Miguel. If anyone sees it, please pass it on.

[TurboALLWD]

Yeah its pretty obvious the rep is the douche, I don't need a video to show me that. haha

[copobo]

this could well be the case. I am just tired of those I send money too BLOWING IT when it comes to dealing with the legislature.

Folks like Wanda and Josh learned how to talk to legislators and get things done. We need folks at Norml and safer to do the same.

I would like to see the video - not because of the rep's behavior, but to clear Miguel.

It matters to me who I support and can they get something done by working with the people who need to be worked with!

[TheReleafCenter]

This was posted in the comments section of that Westword article. Regardless of where you stand on the whole issue, it's a touching read:

To all I hope it concerns,

I am a cancer patient who has been labeled terminally ill. Although I do not accept this diagnosis, this is unfortunately where I stand at this point in my life. This letter is written to inform the medical marijuana public of the utter scam that I have uncovered within the Colorado Medical Marijuana â??advocateâ?� movements.
On February 10th, I went to the capital to speak out against House Bill 1043. I had admittedly not read the entire bill which was, as I understood was an effort to clean up last years mess of a bill. I was slated as one of the last to testify, yet upon having the opportunity to read the entire bill as I waited and heard testimony from the opposition, I had a sudden change of heart. I immediately noticed that the opposition were there to not refute items in 1043, yet rather cause discourse and angst against what they believed to be against their civil rights. Well, these rants had nothing whatsoever to do with the contents of 1043 or itâ??s predecessor 1248. These opponents were simply there to oppose any and all regulation regarding to medical marijuana.
As I decided to abstain from my opposition testimony, I further wanted to hear what the people had to say who were in favor of this bill. Upon doing so, I immediately realized that I have been on the wrong side of the coin. Hearing testimony from Law enforcement, and members of the group that they call MMIG, I realized what was at play hereâ?¦..
There are two diametrically opposed groups who are at each otherâ??s throats. Those being that of Laura Kriho, Timothy Tipton, Miguel Lopez, (the Cannabis Therapy Institute, a group which I have been a member of for quite some time).
I was witness to a confrontation at the break in the hearing, which involved a lobbyist from the group MMIG, Miguel Lopez, and a Representative, (Sonnenburg?) (SP?) And one of the members of MMIG, Josh Stanley. This confrontation peaked my interest to say the least. I witnessed Miguel Lopez, Laura Kriho, and another woman whom I can only assume was a party to Laura and Miguel, involve in a battle of words. Laura Kriho was persistently asking Josh Stanley how much he had to pay to write the legislation that harmed every medical marijuana patient in the state of Colorado.
I further stayed for Josh Stanleyâ??s testimony. I was intrigued by what he had to say. He made it abundantly clear that he was not here to talk about legalization or recreational use but rather to define a clear line between what the voters intended for medicinal marijuana. His testimony struck me as something that I could certainly benefit from should the research and development portion of the bill be passed. That he was working on not simply raw product, but rather having the capability to extract THC from the plant and conduct test studies in order to treat cancer, MS, Parkinsonâ??s, and many other forms of diseases.
This struck me between the eyes. This is the exact type of research that I have been seeking. While marijuana in itâ??s raw form is extremely helpful to me, I do not wish to receive the â??highâ?� associated with the ingestion of it let alone continue to have to smoke or vaporize it.
I was fortunate enough to have to the opportunity to set a meeting with Mr. Stanley on Monday, Feb 14th. He took the time to explain the difference between his goals and that of other advocacy groups. Josh offered to introduce me to a myriad of people who are in my current situation. Further, he expressed that he would be honored to produce his new formulas in a trial effort to assist in the treatment of my stage of cancer once Congress passed the language of the research and development portion of the bill.
I have a new understanding of the two sides, which are at odds. I understand that they both have their own agendas and do not seek to judge either. However, I must say that after being educated by Mr. Stanley and his staff, that the people truly in need of this form of treatment would do much better to support the cause of research and development rather that what I know consider to be the radicals who simply want zero regulations. Zero regulation offers no advancement of treatment for people like me. I intend to be around for some time to come.
After reading and seeing the video that was published on CTIâ??s website in regards to the negative side of this group MMIG, and after witnessing Miguel Lopezâ?? and Laura Krihoâ??s outbursts against the lobbyist and the representative, I have formulated my own opinion that it is better to be on the side of those who truly seek to expand and research this alternative medicine rather than side with those who wish to continue to keep this out of the hands of regulation without regard to persons such as me who truly desire further medicinal benefit as opposed to smoke able raw product.
On a side note, the person operating the camera should have kept it on long enough to witness Miguelâ??s true actions. I was embarrassed personally by the way he acted and he should be ashamed of himself.
Respectfully,
A fighting cancer patient from Colorado.

[TheReleafCenter]

Here's the video AND Westword's quasi retraction:
Medical marijuana: Video of rep shredding MMJ amendment shows no spitting by advocate - Denver News - The Latest Word (http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2011/02/medical_marijuana_video_representative_shredding_a mendment.php)

[jamessr]

Here's the video AND Westword's quasi retraction:
Medical marijuana: Video of rep shredding MMJ amendment shows no spitting by advocate - Denver News - The Latest Word (http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2011/02/medical_marijuana_video_representative_shredding_a mendment.php)

That was not cool ! Obviously someone didn't want to be video tape themselves..sucks when medicine tastes so bitter don't it. Let them vote on a provider initiative.. not try and buy their way in... geez.

[HighPopalorum]

I'm hesitant to respond because you're nuts and because it is off-topic, but has it ever occurred to you that we might want retail marijuana sales in Colorado? I'm not knocking the program in Oregon; I believe strongly each state should set their own marijuana policies, but I personally prefer marijuana be regulated and sold openly at retail like any other commodity. Our program serves a lot more patients and our patients have a lot more selection. An adoption of the Oregon model would be a retrograde movement for patients and activists, and shutting down the hundreds of MMCs in the state would be foolish at any time, particularly during this period of economic recovery.

[porone]

I'm hesitant to respond because you're nuts and because it is off-topic, but has it ever occurred to you that we might want retail marijuana sales in Colorado? I'm not knocking the program in Oregon; I believe strongly each state should set their own marijuana policies, but I personally prefer marijuana be regulated and sold openly at retail like any other commodity. Our program serves a lot more patients and our patients have a lot more selection. An adoption of the Oregon model would be a retrograde movement for patients and activists, and shutting down the hundreds of MMCs in the state would be foolish at any time, particularly during this period of economic recovery.


Damn it It just rubbs me wrong to agree with you.:D

But when your right your right :wtf:

[MtnLionCO]

I am in favor of dispensaries, but I worry about new users who might go there and get bad quality, and not get the full benefits of the plant. Then they might turn to harder drugs and alcohol.

[senorx12562]

I'm hesitant to respond because you're nuts and because it is off-topic, but has it ever occurred to you that we might want retail marijuana sales in Colorado? I'm not knocking the program in Oregon; I believe strongly each state should set their own marijuana policies, but I personally prefer marijuana be regulated and sold openly at retail like any other commodity. Our program serves a lot more patients and our patients have a lot more selection. An adoption of the Oregon model would be a retrograde movement for patients and activists, and shutting down the hundreds of MMCs in the state would be foolish at any time, particularly during this period of economic recovery.
Agreed, except for the "regulated" part of course. My turn with the exploding-head trick.

[jamessr]

I'm hesitant to respond because you're nuts and because it is off-topic, but has it ever occurred to you that we might want retail marijuana sales in Colorado? I'm not knocking the program in Oregon; I believe strongly each state should set their own marijuana policies, but I personally prefer marijuana be regulated and sold openly at retail like any other commodity. Our program serves a lot more patients and our patients have a lot more selection. An adoption of the Oregon model would be a retrograde movement for patients and activists, and shutting down the hundreds of MMCs in the state would be foolish at any time, particularly during this period of economic recovery.

Did it ever occur to you that I want mmj retail sales in every state, not just yours... and there is the right way and the wrong way... you just haven't figured out the right way yet, when you do.. you will thank me...

Provider model is the public retail model.. the caregiver model restrains this to 1 patient at any one time... get it now.?? If not, maybe you should look a little deeper into it... not that you would be considered to be nuts or off topic at all.. you would be right on point.;)

An adoption of the Oregon program is a not the answer either, nor would I push it as one. Their constitution is respected by the majority.

I am in Washington state... the state next to Oregon.. I am not o.k. with what our legislature is doing at all.. restraint of a 1st amendment right under a schedule 1 drug is unconstitutional and is a direct violation of Conant v. Walters injunction... call me nuts but, it seems our mmj state reps think it is o.k. to use the Wa. D.C. case of pearson (since it was a state case only, not federal like conant v. walters) States rights under a schedule 1 drug to say that recommendations operate as a prescriptive devise..

Montana legislature just voted to repeal their mmj laws.. look at the BIG mmj picture please, not just your state.. this is a big huge push across the U.S.not just your state.

[jamessr]

I am in favor of dispensaries, but I worry about new users who might go there and get bad quality, and not get the full benefits of the plant. Then they might turn to harder drugs and alcohol.

Kids have right also to be free from suffering just as adults do, if not more so...

The governments claims of doing things in the names of our children is a farce. They use our children as pawns for money... if our kids are so important to them, our schools would be top notch in the world for the amount of money they use our kids for...

So ya, what about the kids !!! Why leave them out of using cannabis?? Wa. laws don't.:D