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JustinxM
02-12-2011, 08:03 PM
So after my very first plant grow it turned out to be a male... :( and was an experimental plant so not knowing what to do I may have ended the veg cycle earlier and went to flower and then went back to vegging thinking it was too early. I had veg lights on him for about a month and again was 24/0.

I've started on another plant. I was wondering how long should I veg for? As of right now my veg cycle is 24/0 for about 1 and a half weeks into growing. I'm just asking so my plant doesn't veg as much while in the flowering cycle, and yes I understand the plants still veg but mine seemed to do more vegging then flowering. and I want to prevent that, if I can.


A picture of the new plant is below, does everything seem good for the week and a half.

BackWoodDrifter
02-12-2011, 08:06 PM
So after my very first plant grow it turned out to be a male... :( and was an experimental plant so not knowing what to do I may have ended the veg cycle earlier and went to flower and then went back to vegging thinking it was too early. I had veg lights on him for about a month and again was 24/0.

I've started on another plant. I was wondering how long should I veg for? As of right now my veg cycle is 24/0 for about 1 and a half weeks into growing. I'm just asking so my plant doesn't veg as much while in the flowering cycle, and yes I understand the plants still veg but mine seemed to do more vegging then flowering. and I want to prevent that, if I can.


A picture of the new plant is below, does everything seem good for the week and a half.

Be lookin healthy so fur pilgrem. As for vegin be dependin on how big yur willin to getem how big space yual got most folks be waitin til the nodes start alternatin up the stock then yual no the plant be reachin maturity then any time after that yual good to flip to 12/12 then stand back watchim go

BWD

JustinxM
02-12-2011, 08:13 PM
Thanks BWD. with my last plant I started flowering before it even got it's 1st or 2nd node because I wasn't really sure on what I was doing. Just alternating cycles which would of definitely could of stressed it. But then I got all the flowering cycle figured out with him so I'll be prepared this time around. Just hopin for a female this time. I'm only using seeds from my bags. If I keep getting males I'll buy feminized seeds off the net. and try an auto flower.

JustinxM
02-12-2011, 08:22 PM
Since I have limited resources I was also wondering... How long would a seedling veg in a flower cycle of 24/0 I only have 2-3 veg bulbs and 4-5 flower bulbs. I plan on getting more bulbs of each but that was something I was wondering to see if I would be able to start another grow using my flowering bulbs. or add them on the veg cycle to provide more lumens.

BackWoodDrifter
02-12-2011, 08:25 PM
Since I have limited resources I was also wondering... How long would a seedling veg in a flower cycle of 24/0 I only have 2-3 veg bulbs and 4-5 flower bulbs. I plan on getting more bulbs of each but that was something I was wondering to see if I would be able to start another grow using my flowering bulbs. or add them on the veg cycle to provide more lumens.

Yual got pics pilgrem be likin to see what yur workin with caus I am havin bit of trouble understandin just what yual mean "veg in a flower cycle" Yual lost me will help if I can be steppin out for a bit needs some wood for the stove an nun be chopped up small right now be back in bit.

BWD

TheScrogBox
02-12-2011, 08:31 PM
Personally, I have seen the best results when one tries to mimmick the natural sunlight. Try to veg for 2-2.5 months, which helps to give the plant time to develop strong healthy roots, while also creating more branches, ie: more bud sites when you flip the lights over. Try not to rush things, quality comes with patience. Happy growing!! :)

poker2
02-12-2011, 08:32 PM
You want to veg for at least MINIMUM 3 weeks.
4-6 weeks is a reasonable amount of time.

If you want to veg to your plant's peak... the best would be until it starts to show it's pre-flowers.
When it shows pre-flowers that your plants sign of say "Hey YOU, I'm reading to flower now and I am fully mature. I want 12/12 lighting now!"

JustinxM
02-12-2011, 08:33 PM
Alright BWD and to anyone else who can answer... I'll try to be clear and explain the best to my ability. I was wondering..

1. Could I start a seedling under a flower cycle of 24/0? if so how long would it veg before flowering?

2. With my current seedling could I add a flower bulb into my veg cycle (soft white CFL, 2700K 1600 lumens) to provide my plant with more lumens? Without it slowing down the veg stage with the plant, or would it just stress my plant and slow down the focus into trying to flower early.

JustinxM
02-12-2011, 08:35 PM
For my veg lights, I have a natural daylight CFL bulb of 3500K and 1600 lumens but it's more of a yellow tint not the blue the seedlings need is that a problem? it's not a warm light it's very bright and white just with a yellowish tint though.


and thank you everyone for your responses! I think I will keep my plant in the veg cycle for a month or 2.

poker2
02-12-2011, 09:46 PM
^^ I think I clearly answered your question about how long to veg. Re-read my response.
I think you are confused
if so how long would it veg before flowering?
The plant unless it is an AUTO strain will NOT flower unless YOU change you lights to something like 14/10 OR 12/12 OR 10/14 ETC....

For FLOWERING you want 3200k
For VEG you want 5600k
You CAN mix and match but those numbers above is best.


and thank you everyone for your responses! I think I will keep my plant in the veg cycle for a month or 2.
^That is a good amount of time :stoned:

JustinxM
02-12-2011, 10:12 PM
So I would be able to add a soft white lightbulb to provide more lumens? and as long as I kept the lights 24/0 it won't flower? would it increase the speed of vegging?

I guess the better way of asking the question would be can I veg a seedling with warm soft white bulbs (the bulbs i would naturally use for flowering on a mature plant) instead of the blue natural daylight bulbs used for vegging the seedlings.?

and yes Poker I am/was confused because after answering BWD I had a few new answers from you guys. lol

BackWoodDrifter
02-12-2011, 10:15 PM
See I run off to chop some wood and all the good pilgrems be comin out the woodwork be helpin yual out. Yur in good hands with these folk pilgrem good luck and keep in touch ifin yu like. Happy growin

BWD

tikiroom
02-12-2011, 10:54 PM
To answer your lighting question, yes you can use either or both spectrums for vegging.

It is not the color temperature that makes cannabis flower.
It is the length of the day that determines this. (Unless it is an auto flower strain.)

Many people like to use both spectrums because it is closer to natural sunlight.
Others use only an hps during the whole grow cycle.

More lumens is almost always a good thing. So get those lights in there! :thumbsup:

poker2
02-12-2011, 10:56 PM
Tiki did a good job summing up your last question :hippy::jointsmile:

JustinxM
02-12-2011, 11:10 PM
Thanks! :D time to get on that.

JustinxM
02-13-2011, 12:49 AM
Can anyone tell me why I have white powder growing on the leaves? not the 2 small very first leaves but the next set of 2. Is this normal it happened to my first plant also. this is only my second grow so I'm not sure if it's okay or not.

poker2
02-13-2011, 01:21 AM
Pics would be very helpful.
Could be some type of mould? could be some types or bugs? Could be a deficiency?

I'm honestly not sure. Post pics and if that doesn't solve it fill out the troubleshooting form.
Sorry couldn't be more help. Maybe after seeing pics I can.:hippy:

JustinxM
02-13-2011, 02:20 AM
I think I already covered it with BWD. I think it's a sun bleach from possible spraying leaves. It appeared today. nothing this morning to whats on it now. I think it's okay I was just wondering what it was.