MMJ Housing Discrimination

[OldHead09]

I am posting this thread due to a recent experience I have had here in RI. Although it feels very odd to have a state watchdog endorse, protect and confront the unethical and illegal practice by landlords, owners and realtors against MMJ and cardholders protected by law.

History- I have been searching for a house for rent for my family, not a grow house. I had found a beautiful home and had called the realtor, they had expressed interest in renting to my family. I informed them that I enrolled in RI's MMJ program and wanted to make them aware of it to avoid any problems in the future. I was told at the time that I should present my financial info as well as my medical issues so the home owner may make a decision which I complied to. So after a few days I get this email.....

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Hi Tee,

I hope you're doing well. I left you a message yesterday, but wanted to follow-up with an email as well. After careful consideration, the owners of the apartment in Mapleville have decided against renting their apartment to someone with your specific medical treatment. Even after seeking legal advice, they were ready to move forward until they spoke with their other tenant. He has a personal health concern with potentially being exposed. So it is with regard and respect for their current tenant that the owners have reached their decision.

I will keep you in mind if I come across any other 3+ bedroom rental units.

Regards,
(*a Pa*&entier
Sales Associate/Real Estate Consultant
Keller Williams Realty, NRI
628 George Washington Hwy|Lincoln, RI 02865
401.837.2331
gparme&%[email protected]|lilrhodyhomes.com (gparme&%[email protected]|lilrhodyhomes.com)
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As one can imagine I was not happy about the clear violation of my privacy (HIPPA) divulging my medical info to the present tenets. I then contacted the RI Dept of Human Relations which I was very suprised decided to file a complaint against this company. Long story being short, there is help and protection for cardholders and if anyone has run into similiar issues of discrimination please get in touch..

[caregiversri]

I wouldn't even tell them you had a card in the first place....

[OldHead09]

I wouldn't even tell them you had a card in the first place....
Yeah... I felt this way too but I do grow medicinal and felt that in the long run it's better to be honest. Actually since then I have found a beautiful home and was honest with homeowners. But one shouldn't have to hide this, either way.


Glad to see you back Caregivers...:)

[caregiversri]

I hear ya. Im just overly paranoid . WHat if your landlord has a son with an oxycontin problem. The parent landlords tell their son at dinner that a MM patient moved into their rental house. Junky son and friends , then go rob your grow.

[OldHead09]

I hear ya. Im just overly paranoid . WHat if your landlord has a son with an oxycontin problem. The parent landlords tell their son at dinner that a MM patient moved into their rental house. Junky son and friends , then go rob your grow.
Then unfortunately that will be the young man who gets shot in the chest for invading my home. As far as human nature and greed, we all have the duty to protect ourselves and one another from that sorts...

[NoctorGreen]

they should have a want/ad for green freindly apts & houses for rent !
somebody tell those guys ....

[caregiversri]

Then unfortunately that will be the young man who gets shot in the chest for invading my home. As far as human nature and greed, we all have the duty to protect ourselves and one another from that sorts...


I understand, but then youd be facing federal , drug, gun and murder charges. Just like the young man who was protecting his property and killed an intruder at his grow in RI.

Personally Im not gonna harm anyone over a plant . They can have it all . I can grow more.....

[OldHead09]

I understand, but then youd be facing federal , drug, gun and murder charges. Just like the young man who was protecting his property and killed an intruder at his grow in RI.

Personally Im not gonna harm anyone over a plant . They can have it all . I can grow more.....
Unfortunately there are reprecussions to every action...but I will never gamble with my home in the hands of an intruder. I will take my chances with picking 12, then look at my family and say sorry you were hurt but I didn't wnat to be in trouble...hmmm

[SoHigh420]

they should have a want/ad for green freindly apts & houses for rent !
somebody tell those guys ....


too right!!! shit i wish it was like that. be easier on alot of us

[caregiversri]

Unfortunately there are reprecussions to every action...but I will never gamble with my home in the hands of an intruder. I will take my chances with picking 12, then look at my family and say sorry you were hurt but I didn't wnat to be in trouble...hmmm

I totally understand . Why not have the grow away from the family ? Then there is no issues? Not always possible, just hate to see someone defending there home and family. Then take it in the ass in court !

[kodabear]

Then unfortunately that will be the young man who gets shot in the chest for invading my home. As far as human nature and greed, we all have the duty to protect ourselves and one another from that sorts...

Bro,Don't shoot em..............KEEP EM ! After a few days they'ld be begging you to call the cops.Just make sure ya carbon scrubber's up to snuff,they will get messy.

I am not a violent person by nature,but the criminal system will be more lenient if ya use ductape instead of a glock.

I told you guys I grow organically.....Right

[Markron]

I can't believe this is what my first comment on here is going to be about... I'm with OldHead. If someone makes the incredibly bad decision to break into my house, they will have to face the consequences of that decision. If they are armed, and in your house with the intent to commit a felony, there is zero chance of getting convicted of murder. The prosecutors in this state wouldn't even look at it twice. Point is: I have an obligation to protect my family, no matter what.
On the other hand, I don't think telling people about your grow is ever a good idea either. I understand that once you get the card you get a sense of security, but there are just too many criminals out there looking for people to rob. Your landlord does not need to be informed about your MMJ status, just like they don't need to know your HIV status. It's private info and none of their business.
I definitely don't claim to have all the answers, by any means. Just thought I'd chime in on this one.

[kodabear]

So you probably figured your first post would be about growing or smokin. LOL
I totally agree with not disclosing medical / health to anyone other than a healthcare provider.
However,I still say..........KEEPEM for a lil bit.

[OldHead09]

Now I agree with the majority of thought here about letting them know... My past experience is that landlords at least professional ones have confidentiality clauses. I just feel better to let owner know as opposed to havinig to stress everytime they come around for anything. Landlords post discovery can still not allow a mmj grow due to fire codes if they wanted to be dicks about it...


So this thread was originally started for anyone who has a MMJ housing or discrimination issue to know that they have a friend at the RI dept. of Human Relations..People should be able to not feel like criminals still. I am doing nothing illegal under state law so they can kiss my ass......I have sacrificed many things to legally join the MMJ community and will not let some ignorant people prejudice me..It is my God given right to defend myself, my family, my beliefs and my Country.

[OldHead09]

I totally agree with not disclosing medical / health to anyone other than a healthcare provider.
However,I still say..........KEEPEM for a lil bit.

Yes tie them up and make em watch "the biggest loser" and eat fat pussy for a year! WoooHoooo...I sense a new sport!


I can't believe this is what my first comment on here is going to be about... I'm with OldHead. If someone makes the incredibly bad decision to break into my house, they will have to face the consequences of that decision. If they are armed, and in your house with the intent to commit a felony, there is zero chance of getting convicted of murder. The prosecutors in this state wouldn't even look at it twice. Point is: I have an obligation to protect my family, no matter what.
On the other hand, I don't think telling people about your grow is ever a good idea either. I understand that once you get the card you get a sense of security, but there are just too many criminals out there looking for people to rob. Your landlord does not need to be informed about your MMJ status, just like they don't need to know your HIV status. It's private info and none of their business.
I definitely don't claim to have all the answers, by any means. Just thought I'd chime in on this one.

I do understand but I do think there are landlord/owners who will freak out if they "discover" the "grow" and from past experiences I have informed all realtors and landlords when informing initially that the info is protected by HIPPA. I see both sides to the arguement. Growing in seperate location is on the menu, but all in all if it's ten plants or 60 if a landlord freaks he will freak either way upon discovery..


Bro,Don't shoot em..............KEEP EM ! After a few days they'ld be begging you to call the cops.Just make sure ya carbon scrubber's up to snuff,they will get messy.

I am not a violent person by nature,but the criminal system will be more lenient if ya use ductape instead of a glock.

I told you guys I grow organically.....Right

Sounds like you and I should get together and medicate, I like you old school line of thought!:thumbsup:


I totally understand . Why not have the grow away from the family ? Then there is no issues? Not always possible, just hate to see someone defending there home and family. Then take it in the ass in court !

WHOA!!!!! I have never been to that kind of court before...eeeks....Not even a courtesy reach around! I will make sure to shred all evidence now! I will risk my freedom but not my butthole!!!!LMAO!!:D

[kodabear]

I hear ya OldHead,I don't think anyone here actually would disagree with you protecting your family.I know if I was on a jury deliberations would end swiftly.
On the housing issue,both trains of thought are correct to a degree.Yes you don't want discovery made if your boiler goes out at 3 AM. If you are living in a multi family,someone will want an issue adressed immediately.Therefore your up the creek with no time to shut down your grow.Also not all of us are able to have an Electrician come in and do it right.With that being said I wouldn't want my family living on the otherside of the wall from a stoner who went to the Jethro Clampett school of wiring.Also look at the poor baseard in pawtucket during the summer.The Douchebag landlady had signs posted around the entire property,informing the general public of a growhouse.

She put his life in imminent danger for a home invasion.Not to mention his right to privacy had been violated.She may as well have put up a sign saying Gay Men Live Here With Aids.

[thanku4mmj]

I am posting this thread due to a recent experience I have had here in RI. Although it feels very odd to have a state watchdog endorse, protect and confront the unethical and illegal practice by landlords, owners and realtors against MMJ and cardholders protected by law.

History- I have been searching for a house for rent for my family, not a grow house. I had found a beautiful home and had called the realtor, they had expressed interest in renting to my family. I informed them that I enrolled in RI's MMJ program and wanted to make them aware of it to avoid any problems in the future. I was told at the time that I should present my financial info as well as my medical issues so the home owner may make a decision which I complied to. So after a few days I get this email.....

------------------------------------------------
Hi Tee,

I hope you're doing well. I left you a message yesterday, but wanted to follow-up with an email as well. After careful consideration, the owners of the apartment in Mapleville have decided against renting their apartment to someone with your specific medical treatment. Even after seeking legal advice, they were ready to move forward until they spoke with their other tenant. He has a personal health concern with potentially being exposed. So it is with regard and respect for their current tenant that the owners have reached their decision.

I will keep you in mind if I come across any other 3+ bedroom rental units.

Regards,
(*a Pa*&entier
Sales Associate/Real Estate Consultant
Keller Williams Realty, NRI
628 George Washington Hwy|Lincoln, RI 02865
401.837.2331
gparme&%[email protected]|lilrhodyhomes.com (gparme&%[email protected]|lilrhodyhomes.com)
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As one can imagine I was not happy about the clear violation of my privacy (HIPPA) divulging my medical info to the present tenets. I then contacted the RI Dept of Human Relations which I was very suprised decided to file a complaint against this company. Long story being short, there is help and protection for cardholders and if anyone has run into similiar issues of discrimination please get in touch..


old head hello im looking to also to rent a house with 3-4 bed rooms and i would also like to be honest with my landlord before i have any issues with them im a license mmj is there any way u could give me any advice to get a house or have any contacts to help me rent i have a wife and two kids and don't want any problems i just want a safe place to produce meds thank u so much for your help

[jamessr]

I am posting this thread due to a recent experience I have had here in RI. Although it feels very odd to have a state watchdog endorse, protect and confront the unethical and illegal practice by landlords, owners and realtors against MMJ and cardholders protected by law.

History- I have been searching for a house for rent for my family, not a grow house. I had found a beautiful home and had called the realtor, they had expressed interest in renting to my family. I informed them that I enrolled in RI's MMJ program and wanted to make them aware of it to avoid any problems in the future. I was told at the time that I should present my financial info as well as my medical issues so the home owner may make a decision which I complied to. So after a few days I get this email.....

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Hi Tee,

I hope you're doing well. I left you a message yesterday, but wanted to follow-up with an email as well. After careful consideration, the owners of the apartment in Mapleville have decided against renting their apartment to someone with your specific medical treatment. Even after seeking legal advice, they were ready to move forward until they spoke with their other tenant. He has a personal health concern with potentially being exposed. So it is with regard and respect for their current tenant that the owners have reached their decision.

I will keep you in mind if I come across any other 3+ bedroom rental units.

Regards,
(*a Pa*&entier
Sales Associate/Real Estate Consultant
Keller Williams Realty, NRI
628 George Washington Hwy|Lincoln, RI 02865
401.837.2331
gparme&%[email protected]|lilrhodyhomes.com (gparme&%[email protected]|lilrhodyhomes.com)
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As one can imagine I was not happy about the clear violation of my privacy (HIPPA) divulging my medical info to the present tenets. I then contacted the RI Dept of Human Relations which I was very suprised decided to file a complaint against this company. Long story being short, there is help and protection for cardholders and if anyone has run into similiar issues of discrimination please get in touch..

Would you by chance have a copy of the complaint they filed which can be posted here ?? I would like to see this, as here in wa. state... they won't do that.. at least they claim they won't.

We had a case go to federal court but, it was public housing owned by the state.. apt. complexes. The court ruled since they got federal funding it was illegal for them to have any mmj patients living in the complexes... the patient got evicted.

So I think it may have been the federal funding which overroad the ADA/FHA claim..

[OldHead09]

Would you by chance have a copy of the complaint they filed which can be posted here ?? I would like to see this, as here in wa. state... they won't do that.. at least they claim they won't.

We had a case go to federal court but, it was public housing owned by the state.. apt. complexes. The court ruled since they got federal funding it was illegal for them to have any mmj patients living in the complexes... the patient got evicted.

So I think it may have been the federal funding which overroad the ADA/FHA claim..

As soon as I get my written copy I will post for everyone...


old head hello im looking to also to rent a house with 3-4 bed rooms and i would also like to be honest with my landlord before i have any issues with them im a license mmj is there any way u could give me any advice to get a house or have any contacts to help me rent i have a wife and two kids and don't want any problems i just want a safe place to produce meds thank u so much for your help

Sure thing....my contact info in profile


With that being said I wouldn't want my family living on the otherside of the wall from a stoner who went to the Jethro Clampett school of wiring.Also look at the poor baseard in pawtucket during the summer.The Douchebag landlady had signs posted around the entire property,informing the general public of a growhouse.

She put his life in imminent danger for a home invasion.Not to mention his right to privacy had been violated.She may as well have put up a sign saying Gay Men Live Here With Aids.

As fo r an electrician, I make sure safety is priority and so should anyone messing with that much power have the knowledge or do as I. Get someone trusted who deoes it for a living..

The lady in Pawtucket needs sued, beaten and drug around by her orifices like a bowling ball! We should all go down and protest with signs in front of her personal home.

:thumbsup:

Hey out of curiousity has anyone heard of a "RI Cup" latest or is it going to come about?

[Markron]

I've read this story a few times now and it just pisses me off more and more every time I read it. I really hope that you get some compensation from this. Companies have paid dearly for violating a persons HIPPA rights like this. Have you considered retaining an attorney and filing civil charges?

[caregiversri]

Hey out of curiousity has anyone heard of a "RI Cup" latest or is it going to come about?


RI cup????? Fill us in? There is a competition at the maine asa event. Deadline has to be any day now

[NaturalScience]

I don't know anyone elses take, but was so fucking happy to get my card I used my Bank of America [US government bank] credit card to buy it. I purchased my 1st 1/8 on my credit card. I think its funny. I laugh and blow smoke in their fucking face! :D

[wkpjr1967]

Bank of America is not a US Government bank.

[kodabear]

Bank of America is not a US Government bank.

wkpjr1967, you mean my Tiger Woods golf clubs I got at the Salvation Army may not have been dropped at the big Red Box by Tiger!LOL

[Markron]

OldHead, how did this situation wind up? Did they ever send you a written copy?

[OldHead09]

OldHead, how did this situation wind up? Did they ever send you a written copy?

Hey send me an email and I will fill you in, lately there has been too much restlessness on public boards here to go into too much detail. Thank you for asking though!

[madmikeRI]

A hearing date has been scheduled before the House Committee on Judiciary on the two bills that concern patients and/or caregivers growing medicine in rental units. H. 5290 would require licensed patients and caregivers to inform landlords of their intentions to grow medicine and give landlords the right to prohibit growing. To read the full text of the bill, please go to: http://www.rilin.state.ri.us/BillText/BillText11/HouseText11/H5290.pdf
H.5032 would require licensed patients and caregivers growing medicine in rental units to indemnify landlords for any damage that may result from a garden. This means that patients and caregivers would have to purchase insurance or otherwise pay for any harm caused by a garden such as fire damage. You can read the actual text of the bill at: http://www.rilin.state.ri.us/BillText/BillText11/HouseText11/H5032.pdf
The hearings on these two bills will take place on Wednesday March 16 at 4:30pm, room 313, at the State House. Please note that, as we have learned from past experience, be prepared to wait to be heard. Although we may be heard at 4:30pm, we may have to wait for other bills to be heard first. We will do our best to communicate with the Committee and ask that patients be heard in a timely manner.
If you are considering testifying but would like more info and/or support please call the RIPAC office at 861-1601 and we will be happy to assist. Landlords who are supportive of patients and caregivers growing medicine in their rental properties are also encouraged to call us at 861-1601.
You can also call, write or email your state representative to express your opinion. If you do not know who your state representative and/or state senator is, you can go to : https://sos.ri.gov/vic/
Hearings on the bills that, among other things, would terminate growing rights for patients and caregivers by 2013 have not yet been scheduled.


here is some more info on this