Diluting-advice please!!!

[have2passmytest]

Ok so heres my situation:

-recently got a huge promotion at work, have to pass a drug test though for it to be official. if it sticks, id be set for the rest of my life, so needless to say this is EXTREMELY important to me.

-my info: been smoking lightly the past few years (about an eigth every few weeks or so), heavily since november (eigth a week). well, that's heavy to me lol.

-6'4", 210 lbs, workout 5-6 days/wk

-somewhat healthy diet, some healthy foods, some kinda fatty foods

-started taking creatine from gnc last week, been taking it every week day since i usually only work out during the week. been taking about 25-30 grams/day.

-have read the dilution sticky many many times. plan to use this method. have vitamin b2 ready to go for test day. ive also been drinking lots of cranberry juice. will stock up on gatorade for test day to drink instead of water.

-last smoke was tuesday evening.

-if ua is this weekend, and i follow to n2pot's dilution method, should i theoretically pass? test will likely be this weekend from what i can tell but not 100% sure, but im assuming it is for the purpose of this thread.

please, only the knowledgable folks like burnt toast, n2pot, webdox, etc etc reply. i want concrete info, not the bullshit that i see all the new people posting. i know im new to this forum but not new to forums and i know how it goes and from reading here its clear that you have your very knowledgable folks like those i mentioned and people that just wanna throw around complete garbage.

thanks in advance so much to anyone that can help me out and give me advice. special thanks to n2pot and anyone else that contributed to the dilution thread.

[Deige]

Ok so heres my situation:

-recently got a huge promotion at work, have to pass a drug test though for it to be official. if it sticks, id be set for the rest of my life, so needless to say this is EXTREMELY important to me.

-my info: been smoking lightly the past few years (about an eigth every few weeks or so), heavily since november (eigth a week). well, that's heavy to me lol.

-6'4", 210 lbs, workout 5-6 days/wk

-somewhat healthy diet, some healthy foods, some kinda fatty foods

-started taking creatine from gnc last week, been taking it every week day since i usually only work out during the week. been taking about 25-30 grams/day.

-have read the dilution sticky many many times. plan to use this method. have vitamin b2 ready to go for test day. ive also been drinking lots of cranberry juice. will stock up on gatorade for test day to drink instead of water.

-last smoke was tuesday evening.

-if ua is this weekend, and i follow to n2pot's dilution method, should i theoretically pass? test will likely be this weekend from what i can tell but not 100% sure, but im assuming it is for the purpose of this thread.

please, only the knowledgable folks like burnt toast, n2pot, webdox, etc etc reply. i want concrete info, not the bullshit that i see all the new people posting. i know im new to this forum but not new to forums and i know how it goes and from reading here its clear that you have your very knowledgable folks like those i mentioned and people that just wanna throw around complete garbage.

thanks in advance so much to anyone that can help me out and give me advice. special thanks to n2pot and anyone else that contributed to the dilution thread.

Only a home test kit will give you the results you want. No one here can tell you whether you will pass or not. My advice to you is to pick up a home test kit and test yourself using the first urination of the day. If you pass then your golden. If not, you have two options. 1. Pick up a bottle of Quick Fix synthetic urine or a friends clean sample and substitute. Second, buy another test kit and run a mock dilution tomorrow. Follow the information outlined in the Dilution thread and test yourself. If you pass and want to run it again at test time then that's your business.

If I were in your shoes, I would substitute with a clean sample or Quick Fix. You said yourself that this was job of a lifetime, do you really want to risk it?

[have2passmytest]

Only a home test kit will give you the results you want. No one here can tell you whether you will pass or not. My advice to you is to pick up a home test kit and test yourself using the first urination of the day. If you pass then your golden. If not, you have two options. 1. Pick up a bottle of Quick Fix synthetic urine or a friends clean sample and substitute. Second, buy another test kit and run a mock dilution tomorrow. Follow the information outlined in the Dilution thread and test yourself. If you pass and want to run it again at test time then that's your business.

If I were in your shoes, I would substitute with a clean sample or Quick Fix. You said yourself that this was job of a lifetime, do you really want to risk it?

thanks for taking the time to respond.

i know nobody can tell me if i will pass, just whether they think i will, hence why i provided my info.

i agree that id rather substitute but unfortunately i dont have a debit or credit card to purchase quick fix online, and aside from that, if the test is this weekend i doubt i could get it in time. do any b&m stores sell quick fix, or for that matter, home test kits? i definitely like your idea of running a mock dilution test.

i dont want to risk it but i dont have much of a choice right now. unfortunately just about all my friends also smoke so no help there haha. my dad smokes and my mom is on various drugs for a medical condition so no dice with them. dont really think subbing is an option for me unless i can find QF locally. If i could, id be all over that.

thanks again for your help!

also, does having an ongoing bladder infection affect dilution methodology any?

[Deige]

thanks for taking the time to respond.

i know nobody can tell me if i will pass, just whether they think i will, hence why i provided my info.

i agree that id rather substitute but unfortunately i dont have a debit or credit card to purchase quick fix online, and aside from that, if the test is this weekend i doubt i could get it in time. do any b&m stores sell quick fix, or for that matter, home test kits? i definitely like your idea of running a mock dilution test.

i dont want to risk it but i dont have much of a choice right now. unfortunately just about all my friends also smoke so no help there haha. my dad smokes and my mom is on various drugs for a medical condition so no dice with them. dont really think subbing is an option for me unless i can find QF locally. If i could, id be all over that.

thanks again for your help!

also, does having an ongoing bladder infection affect dilution methodology any?

If you have a local headshop near you, then that will be your best bet at finding QF. Walmart, CVS, and Walgreen's all sell drug testing kits. I'm not sure about the bladder infection, Ive never had one. What are the symptoms and why do you think that it would affect things?

[BackWoodDrifter]

Mathimatical question

Unemployment + Job Change + Regular drug checks to keep employment = DONT DO DRUGS!


Keepin or gettin your job? Priceless!


BWD

[Burnt Toast]

Unemployment + Job Change + Regular drug checks to keep employment = DONT DO DRUGS!
Fortunately, for those who choose not to follow that path, there is a recourse; most notably this drug testing forums' reason for being.

[BackWoodDrifter]

Fortunately, for those who choose not to follow that path, there is a recourse; most notably this drug testing forums' reason for being.

Be sorry pilgrem if the reality of my point of view hurts or even stings, be straight forward and to the point,,, and true unfortunatly.

Be guessin ifin there be a thread for those pilgrems who be drinkin 10 beers and need to mask it soas theyal be drivin home be pilgrems helpin them out as well. Sad but true. And likin I be sayin before opinions are like butt holes every pilgrem has one even me ;)

As long as there be pilgrems in here be askin the same questions over and over gain I will if I choose share My point of view ifin I feel inclined just as yu do my friend if folks cant take the good with the bad yual just be tellin what they want to hear even if yual think its right.

No disrespect to yu just pplain ans simple LIFE

BWD

[Burnt Toast]

Be sorry pilgrem if the reality of my point of view hurts or even stings, be straight forward and to the point,,, and true unfortunatly. Likewise. My thoughts exactly.
Its also true that there are those who choose not to abstain from using cannabis, and thats where the drug testing forums' reason for being comes in. Advising someone to "dont do drugs" runs counter to the DT forums reason for being. If everyone were to stop using cannabis in order satisfy the draconian mandates of the government, the legal system and the corporate world, there wouldnt be a need to post here with questions on passing a DT. *shrugs*


Be guessin ifin there be a thread for those pilgrems who be drinkin 10 beers and need to mask it soas theyal be drivin home be pilgrems helpin them out as well. Such threads/posts would be breaking the rules and would very likely get reported. Only cannabis can be discussed in the forum. All other types of drugs are off-topic and frowned upon by the forum PTB.

Other subjects we do NOT discuss here include:
-Other criminal activity. This includes but is not limited to: Smuggling, theft, violence, dealing, taking cannabis on public transportation.
-Gang references WILL result in an immediate ban, including in usernames.
-Getting pets or minors high
-Other drugs, including alcohol. This is a very important one. We discuss cannabis products only. Repeated references to other drugs, including misuse of pharmaceuticals, or use of psychoactives that may still be legal in your area, WILL result in a ban.

Source: http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-com-lounge/148152-messageboard-rules.html

[BackWoodDrifter]

Likewise. My thoughts exactly.
Its also true that there are those who choose not to abstain from using cannabis, and thats where the drug testing forums' reason for being comes in. Advising someone to "dont do drugs" runs counter to the DT forums reason for being. If everyone were to stop using cannabis in order satisfy the draconian mandates of the government, the legal system and the corporate world, there wouldnt be a need to post here with questions on passing a DT. *shrugs*

Such threads/posts would be breaking the rules and would very likely get reported. Only cannabis can be discussed in the forum. All other types of drugs are off-topic and frowned upon by the forum PTB.

Well be lookin at what yual be typin and it not be lookin like much sence as I be makin an an EXAMPLE usein BEER to be showin the same idea. As yual be helpin folks be passin a test that just might be a REAL REASON why they need to pass such a test in the first place. Do yu know why they have to take the test? Is it because they be gettin the interview to become a new Pilot flyin a 747 yur gonna take next month? Or a phamisist who needs to be completely focused as they fill yur wifes cancer medication that if off by2-3 mg could cause instant death. I am not tryin to disrespect yu and how yu help these pilgrems but yu need to understand the implications your actions could contribute too. I simply want to point out yu DON'T no who yur helpin get that job that Needs to have this in place for a reason. I am a supporter of MJ I wave the same flag in most cases as yu do BUT like it or not it does alter ones mind and body and can and does impair ones abilities in many ways. Yual want that cab driver responsible for drivin yur 8 yr old home from school doin so after they be smokein a huge fatty if yu do its probably cause yu dont have kids. I take my opinion here and used the example of drinkin 10 beers as an example not to talk about drinkin 10 beers yur the one who brings this up to talk about so if a bannin yual be a threatinin then jump on the wagon as it be wheelin out the door pilgrem. I be havin my first run in with yual when i first joined this thread yu voice yu kinda dislike fur me then and I be advisin yual yu dont like me or what I have to shoot straight dont eknowlege my imput or better yet iggy me want be hurtin my feelins non pilgrem be doin a favour as i dont mix well with folks who dont see the big picture or the other side before comin to an ignorant self servin conclusion that yual be right no matter what other folks be sayin. Meet yur type in other threads and dont have much use fur yas. So iggy away and I will go to walk my own trails here be mindin my own and my ways I trust yual be walkin yur side of it. Good luck and be still respectin ya as long as yual be deservin it. We just have 2 different opinions on this subject and that be ok its the ones who are not mature enough be blowin it outa proportion or be makin it more then it is.

Happy trails pilgrem. Good luck to yu and yurn.

BWD

[Burnt Toast]

Well be lookin at what yual be typin and it not be lookin like much sence as I be makin an an EXAMPLE usein BEER to be showin the same idea.

I take my opinion here and used the example of drinkin 10 beers as an example not to talk about drinkin 10 beers yur the one who brings this up to talk about so if a bannin yual be a threatinin then jump on the wagon as it be wheelin out the door pilgrem. It apparently makes sense to the forum PTB. In the six years Ive been around these parts, Ive seen threads/posts containing similar examples get axed as they have (and always seem to) open the door for discussion of the O/T substance, thereby shifting the focus of the thread topic.
You may take what I brought up as a "threat", I'm merely giving it as a "heads up". When the PTB do make their rounds, they dont fiddle around.


As yual be helpin folks be passin a test that just might be a REAL REASON why they need to pass such a test in the first place. Given that the subject of drug testing is taken seriously here, lets just hope those folks have a real reason to pass a drug test. The DT forum is no playground.

Do yu know why they have to take the test? That depends on the poster. We have many posters that state their reason for passing a drug test.

Is it because they be gettin the interview to become a new Pilot flyin a 747 yur gonna take next month? If I do recall, we have a few posts here of cannabis users that faced an FAA (DOT) regulated drug test. And I dont fly.

Or a phamisist who needs to be completely focused as they fill yur wifes cancer medication that if off by2-3 mg could cause instant death. Id bet the farm that in an overwhelming majority of such events that have taken place, cannabis usage was entirely eliminated as a factor. And my wife has never been diagnosed with cancer.

Yual want that cab driver responsible for drivin yur 8 yr old home from school doin so after they be smokein a huge fatty if yu do its probably cause yu dont have kids.Actually, all my kids are grown and all my grandkids are over 8 years old. Personally, I wouldnt let any of them ride a cab at age 8, even if the cabbie was stone-cold sober.

I am not tryin to disrespect yu and how yu help these pilgrems but yu need to understand the implications your actions could contribute too. I, for one, am fully aware of all the implications (real or imagined) my actions could contribute. Thanks for the heads up, though.

I simply want to point out yu DON'T no who yur helpin get that job that Needs to have this in place for a reason. I'm sure that I ,and many of the DT forum vets have a good idea though.

I am a supporter of MJ I wave the same flag in most cases as yu do BUT like it or not it does alter ones mind and body and can and does impair ones abilities in many ways. But, like it or not, the overwhelming majority of folks that failed a THC drug test did so long after the "impairments" and "alterations" had ceased.

I be havin my first run in with yual when i first joined this thread yu voice yu kinda dislike fur me then and I be advisin yual yu dont like me or what I have to shoot straight dont eknowlege my imput or better yet iggy me want be hurtin my feelins non pilgrem be doin a favour as i dont mix well with folks who dont see the big picture or the other side before comin to an ignorant self servin conclusion that yual be right no matter what other folks be sayin. Meet yur type in other threads and dont have much use fur yas.
We just have 2 different opinions on this subject and that be ok its the ones who are not mature enough be blowin it outa proportion or be makin it more then it is.(at the risk of sounding like one of my teenaged grandaughters) "Whatever!"
In that "run-in" youre apparently referring to, I gave you a heads up (as I just did in this thread) in regarding to the forums rule against inflammatory name-calling. If you choose to assume a defensive posture, claiming that others have a dislike for you and are just plain out to do you in, then thats your hangup. But when you (as well as I, and others) registered here, you (as well as I, and others) have agreed to comply with the rules, or suffer the consequences. If I, and others cannot break the rules, then there is no reason why you should, IMO.

[BackWoodDrifter]

It apparently makes sense to the forum PTB. In the six years Ive been around these parts, Ive seen threads/posts containing similar examples get axed as they have (and always seem to) open the door for discussion of the O/T substance, thereby shifting the focus of the thread topic.
You may take what I brought up as a "threat", I'm merely giving it as a "heads up". When the PTB do make their rounds, they dont fiddle around.

Given that the subject of drug testing is taken seriously here, lets just hope those folks have a real reason to pass a drug test. The DT forum is no playground.
That depends on the poster. We have many posters that state their reason for passing a drug test.
If I do recall, we have a few posts here of cannabis users that faced an FAA (DOT) regulated drug test. And I dont fly.
Id bet the farm that in an overwhelming majority of such events that have taken place, cannabis usage was entirely eliminated as a factor. And my wife has never been diagnosed with cancer.
Actually, all my kids are grown and all my grandkids are over 8 years old. Personally, I wouldnt let any of them ride a cab at age 8, even if the cabbie was stone-cold sober.
I, for one, am fully aware of all the implications (real or imagined) my actions could contribute. Thanks for the heads up.
I'm sure that I ,and many of the DT forum vets have a good idea though.
But, like it or not, the overwhelming majority of folks that failed a THC drug test did so long after the "impairments" and "alterations" had ceased.
(at the risk of sounding like one of my teenaged grandaughters) "Whatever!"
In that "run-in" youre apparently referring to, I gave you a heads up (as I just did in this thread) in regarding to the forums rule against inflammatory name-calling. If you choose to assume a defensive posture, claiming that others have a dislike for you and are just plain out to do you in, then thats your hangup. But when you (as well as I, and others) registered here, you (as well as I, and others) have agreed to comply with the rules, or suffer the consequences. If I, and others cannot break the rules, then there is no reason why you should, IMO.

Humm... Kids! Anyways be off to a different trail now be leavin all to formulate yur own opinions. I as a mature and seasoned person dont need drama and as I stated in the last thread those who lash out prove imaturity and lack of open respect to others point of view. Yual help who yu help but my wisdom stands proven, Yual wont hear from me again here in this thread and in some sort of fight with this person as it aint worth my time nor my exsperience just be remeberin who he helps? could be flyin yur plains or drivin yur kids school bus home, as I have made my point and thats my opinion that I be entitled too. You all can iggy me as I stated earlier. I will not respond to a single reply as I am not here for childish arguments just truth, fact and help. I have moved on. Once again no disrespect just lookin for mature and like minded folks in my life.

Take care pilgrem hope yual do well without causin folks there lives.

Done

BWD

[Burnt Toast]

Toodle-loo... Sorry that its apparently not working out for you in the DT forum.

[webdox]

Humm... Kids! Anyways be off to a different trail now...

:thumbsup:

[have2passmytest]

hey bwd, thanks for cluttering up my thread looking for advice. a little late for the "don't do drugs" advice. that's why this particular sub-forum exists, no? to help those looking to pass a drug screen.

on that note, decided to skip the dilution and go straight to subbing, can't risk it. ordered qf 5.7 last night, should get here today. still not sure when my test will be but i'll be sure to post up my results. unless pa facilities can detect synth i should be good to go at this point.