View Full Version : tacoing leaves, brown spots
thatswhatIsayin
02-07-2011, 04:16 AM
I think i caught them early because there doesnt seem to be any more spider mites, yay.
but now i seem to have the "tacoing effect" on some leaves and many new leaves are curling down like talons. and one leave has a couple brown spots. Let me provide you guys with more info so you can help me out
Im growing under 400 watt and 4 100 watt cfls for side lighting in an aeroponic system with hydroton rocks. My humidity is low at around 25% and my temps are between 75 and 80 degrees. I am using the techniflora starter kit and recently started using neem for spider mites. My reservoir is at just under 400 ppm.
I have read that the curling could be from too much Nitrogen or possibly a magnesium deficiency. What do you guys think?
Here are some photos to help you guys out.
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Gatekeeper777
02-07-2011, 04:03 PM
All the pic links say page not found. :(
Over watering may be the cause of curl. Leaves starting to Tacoing effect is stress and brown spots on leaves usually means nute deficiant. pics would help.
Just my 2 cents.:jointsmile:
thatswhatIsayin
02-07-2011, 05:30 PM
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thatswhatIsayin
02-07-2011, 09:51 PM
these links work
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_0740.jpg
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_0739.jpg
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tevfik
02-07-2011, 10:03 PM
Looks like heat. How far are the lamps? Are those CFLs 100w actual wattage or equivalent? What are the reflectors (for the walls and lights)?
Here, detailed form to fill. You can get better assistance if you fill the form.
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spankydubbs
02-07-2011, 11:13 PM
i think that its to dry and they hold moisture underneith the leaves. i have the same problem but i want to avoid mold so maybe throw a few damp towels in your grow area daily and get some humidity in there. hope it helps!
thatswhatIsayin
02-08-2011, 12:59 AM
What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...) second grow, first aeroponic
Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. (MH, HPS, CFL's, tube fluorescents, LED's) 400 watt mh, 4 100 watt equivalent clfs side lighting with
.2) Distance from tops? about a foot from mh and 3 to 4 inches from clfs
.3) Reflector type? (cool tube set-up, bat wing, enclosed reflector, bare bulb...) bat wing?
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? in a basement fan blowing, heat register open
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? circulation fan
.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? 400 and 4 100 watt cfl equivalent, 18-6 schedule
Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...) hydroton rocks
.8) Size of container. about 40 gal with 10 gallons of water
.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings? i got clones in spongy medium stuff, i forget what its called
Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) What's it's ph before adjusting? tap water ph of about 7 before adjustments
11) Method of checking water ph. (ph pen, test strips, aquarium test kit...) ph drops
12) Method of adjusting water ph. (phosphoric acid, white vinegar, hydrated lime, PH Up...) ph up/down
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule. techniflora starter kit, about 400 ppm right now
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering? i have the 1 minute on 4 minutes off timer that runs during lights on
15) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...) calmag
16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate? pretty stable
17) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph? runoff gets reused
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray? ive used thrive alive b1 twice, using it weekly during light on
Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors? indoors
20) What size of closet, room or hut? 4 ft by 3 ft, glossy white dry erase board
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off? 75-80 and around 25%
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom? had recent spidermite infestation, treated with neem, no signs now
Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?) 2 sour diesel, 2 new york city diesel, 2 white widow
24) From seeds or clones? clones
25) Is this an autoflower strain?
MEDEDCANNABIS
02-08-2011, 01:25 AM
What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...) second grow, first aeroponic
Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. (MH, HPS, CFL's, tube fluorescents, LED's) 400 watt mh, 4 100 watt equivalent clfs side lighting with
.2) Distance from tops? about a foot from mh and 3 to 4 inches from clfs
.3) Reflector type? (cool tube set-up, bat wing, enclosed reflector, bare bulb...) bat wing?
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? in a basement fan blowing, heat register open
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? circulation fan
.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? 400 and 4 100 watt cfl equivalent, 18-6 schedule
Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...) hydroton rocks
.8) Size of container. about 40 gal with 10 gallons of water
.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings? i got clones in spongy medium stuff, i forget what its called
Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) What's it's ph before adjusting? tap water ph of about 7 before adjustments
11) Method of checking water ph. (ph pen, test strips, aquarium test kit...) ph drops
12) Method of adjusting water ph. (phosphoric acid, white vinegar, hydrated lime, PH Up...) ph up/down
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule. techniflora starter kit, about 400 ppm right now
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering? i have the 1 minute on 4 minutes off timer that runs during lights on
15) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...) calmag
16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate? pretty stable
17) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph? runoff gets reused
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray? ive used thrive alive b1 twice, using it weekly during light on
Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors? indoors
20) What size of closet, room or hut? 4 ft by 3 ft, glossy white dry erase board
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off? 75-80 and around 25%
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom? had recent spidermite infestation, treated with neem, no signs now
Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?) 2 sour diesel, 2 new york city diesel, 2 white widow
24) From seeds or clones? clones
25) Is this an autoflower strain?
watering at 1 min on and 4 off??? overwatering
thatswhatIsayin
02-08-2011, 01:58 AM
the timer is for aeroponics, what should the increments be?
tevfik
02-08-2011, 09:09 AM
Here is the form for hydro
http://boards.cannabis.com/2009051-post2.html
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