I get randomly tested. Will this Whizz Kit work for me?

[GucciMane]

What I'm wanting to know is, if I buy this and just keep it strapped up against my leg each day at work, if I'm pulled for a test, will the pee be warm enough to pass the test? Because if so, I won't mind wearing this around every day to work, lol. It's such a simple job but I work for the State, that's why there are randoms. However, they are few and far between. My friend worked here for 2 years and wasn't tested once, after the initial test. Maybe it can be once every 6 months or so. You see, it's not constantly.

But yeah, so will my plan work out? Because I really miss smoking. :( It helps me with my anxiety and I'd much rather get high then keep getting wasted like I have been.

[edwardschlosser]

I'm a former toxicologist who ran a GCMS Lab that tested for drugs of abuse. The temperature strips on the bottles we used registered from 92-100 degrees, to the best of my recollection. Get a thermometer, strap the bag on for an hour or two, then simulate dispensing it into a 4-6 ounce cup and measure the temperature. If it reads below 94 degrees it will probably work. My guess is that it will be under 90 degrees, in which case it will not. There is NO product that will mask a positive drug test. Golden Seal is just a myth. I put it to a test and it had zero effect. In a pinch, you can try adaulterating the urine with one small drop of liquid soap. The urine will screen positive, but it will make the job of the chemist in the confirmation lab miserable, and they may not be able to figure out the problem and have to report you out negative. Soap will lock water into it's matrix and will pass through a C8 or C18 column used in the separation. This small amount of water will prevent the derivitzation reaction with BSTFA necessary to do the GCMS confirmation. You may have to pay for the confirmation after failing the screen. Remember they are 2 different things. The screen is usually by enzymatic assay. The confirmation is done by GCMS. It is the confirmation that the soap will screw up. You only need a very small amount. Don't over-do it or you will get busted when the chemist can smell it. That's how I figured it out.

[GucciMane]

Um... neither one of the last two posts helped me out.. lol... not to be an ass.

But I KNOW the fake pee will work. What I want to know is if keeping ir strapped to me everyday at work it will stay warm enough to pass the test. They take the pee off campus anyways so it's not like it will stay warm on the ride to wherever they take it, so they can't expect it to be warm anyways probably. They will just see that the pee is clean, so I'll be good... right?

[Burnt Toast]

I'm a former toxicologist who ran a GCMS Lab that tested for drugs of abuse. The temperature strips on the bottles we used registered from 92-100 degrees, to the best of my recollection. Get a thermometer, strap the bag on for an hour or two, then simulate dispensing it into a 4-6 ounce cup and measure the temperature. If it reads below 94 degrees it will probably work. My guess is that it will be under 90 degrees, in which case it will not. There is NO product that will mask a positive drug test. Golden Seal is just a myth. I put it to a test and it had zero effect. In a pinch, you can try adaulterating the urine with one small drop of liquid soap. The urine will screen positive, but it will make the job of the chemist in the confirmation lab miserable, and they may not be able to figure out the problem and have to report you out negative. Soap will lock water into it's matrix and will pass through a C8 or C18 column used in the separation. This small amount of water will prevent the derivitzation reaction with BSTFA necessary to do the GCMS confirmation. You may have to pay for the confirmation after failing the screen. Remember they are 2 different things. The screen is usually by enzymatic assay. The confirmation is done by GCMS. It is the confirmation that the soap will screw up. You only need a very small amount. Don't over-do it or you will get busted when the chemist can smell it. That's how I figured it out. Using soap wont work. Testing facilities are required to make the donor wash and dry hands before submitting and all water sources and soap sources are disabled inside the bathroom stall to prevent tampering of the sample. If the bathroom is such to where water and soap sources cannot be secured, a monitor has to be assigned to enter the bathroom with the donor.
Yes, a person can sneak a vial of soap in the facility, but if youre brave enough to sneak in a vial of soap or other adulterant, then youre brave enough to sneak in a clean sample or synthetic to use as a sub.

[rudy2010]

I have heard that they have a fake whiz kit that comes with a heating pack so the temp will not be an issue. Not sure is this helps but maybe you won't have to keep the test kit strapped to your leg.

[GucciMane]

Please people, I need to know..

[Deige]

Please people, I need to know..

I'm not familiar with the Wizz kit, so I'm not sure if its legit or not. We usually recommend Quick Fix synthetic urine. It's 100% effective if you can maintain the proper temperature.

Keeping it close to your body(crotching it or strapping it to your leg)will be sufficient in keeping the proper body temperature. If you plan to reheat the sample everyday, then you may want to see if the Wizz kit is capable of this. Quick Fix can be reheated as many times as you want and has a shelf life of 18 months.

[rudy2010]

Do you know if they have a chemical heating pack that you can break inside the package and use to heat the synthetic urine. I know they have hand warmer packs like this. You break the pack and chemicals mix inside generating the heat. This would make it a lot easier to keep the Quick Fix handy without having to strap it to your leg or crotch for as long as a year. You can just break the chem pack and quickly heat the specimine.

[GucciMane]

Do you know if they have a chemical heating pack that you can break inside the package and use to heat the synthetic urine. I know they have hand warmer packs like this. You break the pack and chemicals mix inside generating the heat. This would make it a lot easier to keep the Quick Fix handy without having to strap it to your leg or crotch for as long as a year. You can just break the chem pack and quickly heat the specimine.

Thank you and also thank you to the person above for recommending quick fix!

Okay, Quick Fix it is!

Now secondly, where can I get this chem pack??? :O

[Burnt Toast]

The QF comes with a heat pack.

[GucciMane]

^ Which you have to heat in a microwave. So it's pointless.

Anyone tried Urine Luck? You put it in the cup and when you pee in it it dilutes all of your molecules.

[Burnt Toast]

The QF heat pad doesnt require a mic. Simply take it out of the wrap, shake it a few times to activate, then tape or band it to the back of the bottle. The QF bottle can be mic'd for initial heat. Keep in mind that the heat pad by itself takes about an hour to heat the QF bottle to 100F. If youre in a situation where a mic is inaccessible, you can activate the heat pad in the bathroom, walk out and say you cannot pee. There, the collector will have you sit down and drink water until youre able to "produce a sample". Play the "shy bladder" game and keep checking the bottle temp until its right on. Under DHHS regulations, a donor is allowed up to 3 hrs to be able to void a sufficient amount of sample.


Drop-in additives like the U/L additive will not work on instant-type tests because it takes 90 min to destroy the drug metabolites in the sample. In addition, labs have been detecting additives on a more frequent basis than ever before. They are detected when the sample gets flagged for excessive nitrites, high chromates, and/or an abnormal pH.

Youre better off sticking with subbing, since youre planning on sneaking something into the facility.

[GucciMane]

Okay, yes I know for sure I am taken to the building and not supervisosed, but I must go immediety. However I am allowed to go to my car to drive to the building. In that time I would take out my QF and open that heat pack. Hope for the best. Take my time to the building. Then say I can't pee. So then I will sit there and wait for the best. But when I go in there and pour the stuff in the cup, how do I make it sound like I am peeing it into the cup? Should I just pee in the toilet? Will they be able to listen and tell?

[GucciMane]

I'm going to need some intstant heat here..

[rudy2010]

Looks like the forum is alive. Let us know how it went.

[butch100]

I'm in a similar situation, we never know when test day is so I keep a bottle of QF in a small "pocket" I made, just cut off 3-4 inches off an old sock and sew it into the strap of underwear but you MUST keep a heat pack on it while using this method, you can buy heat packs cheap on ebay or wal-mart or CVS. The best part is it looks like your really peeing, you unzip, reach down and unscrew the QF top and pour it in. I modified several pair of underwear like this (wouldn't want to wear the same pair everyday, LOL). BTW I re-heated mine over 200 times like this until it was needed and QF still worked like a champ!..

[rudy2010]

Excellent info. Thanks for following up with this helpful information.