Should I focus on veg or flowering at this stage?

[JustinxM]

This is my first plant I started this at the end of December and now at this point. This is an experiment plant to see if I can get into growing or not, I cut the leaves to see any difference in growth. but now being at this point should I focus on vegging still? I have been trying to flower it and nothing's really happening I think its a male all I see are little lumps. (see pics) Thats when I decided to cut the leaves to see if it would quicken the flower stage but still nothing. Any input would be great! I don't really know much terminology for growing so try to keep things simple. :thumbsup:

[BackWoodDrifter]

This is my first plant I started this at the end of December and now at this point. This is an experiment plant to see if I can get into growing or not, I cut the leaves to see any difference in growth. but now being at this point should I focus on vegging still? I have been trying to flower it and nothing's really happening I think its a male all I see are little lumps. (see pics) Thats when I decided to cut the leaves to see if it would quicken the flower stage but still nothing. Any input would be great! I don't really know much terminology for growing so try to keep things simple. :thumbsup:

:eek:

[JustinxM]

Well like I said I think its a male so I hacked it. I have plenty of other seeds and none are feminized so I'm seeing if I can actually get into this before getting really into it and buying seeds and stronger lights etc.

Here are pictures from before it was hacked.

[Dutch Pimp]

I can't tell if it is male or not. It was doing OK for 30 days of vegging. The hacking was a mistake. Now, it has to repair all that damage. Don't do that.

[JustinxM]

haha yeah.... like I said just experimenting. I'm done with the hacking but the pictures aren't too clear there's little lumps coming out but I'll just continue on the schedule I've been on.

[Dutch Pimp]

:)...http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-growing/127522-simple-noob-instructions-growin-da-dankness.html

[JustinxM]

Should I just let it veg for another month? then try to flower it again after it's repaired? During that extra month of vegging I can go out and buy more lights. I'm only using CFL bulbs natural whites and soft whites. 1600 lumens + and 2700k and 3500k.

[BackWoodDrifter]

Should I just let it veg for another month? then try to flower it again after it's repaired? During that extra month of vegging I can go out and buy more lights. I'm only using CFL bulbs natural whites and soft whites. 1600 lumens + and 2700k and 3500k.

Well yu be sayin up bove yu already be heckin it down so no it wont veg fur another month now it be hacked it just be dryin up and dyin. But ifin yur goin to germ more seeds then go fur it and be leavin its limbs in tack hatchit jack LOL

Good Luck

BWD

[JustinxM]

well where the nodes are it's growing more and more daily. and it's growing out the top more. here's a few days of difference.

[Dutch Pimp]

Should I just let it veg for another month? then try to flower it again after it's repaired? During that extra month of vegging I can go out and buy more lights. I'm only using CFL bulbs natural whites and soft whites. 1600 lumens + and 2700k and 3500k.
Yes... that might be an option? ..depends on how long it was in flowering?

Fluorescent tube lights in 6500k work very well for the first 4 weeks of vegging. After that; you need 5000 lumens per square foot to flower properly....3000K.

[JustinxM]

Less than a week I was alternating veg and flowering.

[Dutch Pimp]

Less than a week I was alternating veg and flowering.

don't do that....veg 18/6 or 20/4 or 24/0 ...then flower 12/12

[JustinxM]

See this is where I get confused I understand the hours and all that, but can I turn both on at once or should I... let's say have the veg light on 24/7 then turn the flower lights on and off every 12 hours? I can't read tutorials because all the info is something I can't take in at once it just confuses the hell out of me. lol I rather just ask what I'm confused on because I'm doing something right besides the hacking away. and are UVB bulbs any good? I had one that seemed to work real well then I read it was real bad so I returned the bulb. But it sprouted all my seeds in a day or 2 so I wasn't suee. I left the UVB bulb on 24/7 for 2-3 weeks and it grew real quick. had some bleaching on the leafs but then that stopped after a while then I switched to all CFL and don't see as much response.

[bigtopsfinn]

When you want the plant to flower, you have to give the plant 12 hours of uninterrupted darkness (hence, the 12/12 cycle). 12 hours of light, 12 hours of dark (so dark that you cannot see your own hand in front of your face).

Getting the right type of light will help (6500K for veg, 2700K for flower, or thereabouts), but the most important are the dark cycles for flowering.

As for the UVB, it's something to experiment with. Some say they help with trichome production, but then again they are dangerous for the eyes.

I'd really focus on getting the basics down right now. More lights (150w+ of cfl's), making sure the plant gets fresh air, at the right temperature, and getting the right nutrients for veg and for flower.

As for your original question, it depends on how much space you have. Also bigger plants require more light, more nutrients, more air, ect.

Happy growing :jointsmile:

[bigsby]

You are a patient patient man Bigtops!

[canniwhatsis]

You are a patient patient man Bigtops!

+1!!!!

@ JustinxM
Good god man! your torturing that poor little plant!!!! He/she/it needs those leaves you hacked off to make it's FOOD!!!! And don't mess around with light cycles or you'll more than likely wind up with an IT!



Good luck man, settle down with the ADD and watch the plant grow! :hippy:

[JustinxM]

Like I said just experimenting my first plant I have more seeds germinating right now because this one I think I stressed it. I had some odd timing light cycles going with it due to not being home at the right times to get the lights off and etc. Just getting the answers to my questions I came to confusion to figure out everything on my next serious grow(s)! Thanks for the help. I'll probably be posting and asking more questions I might try just a uvb bulb and see what that does to my seedling.

[canniwhatsis]

Simple solution to the light cycle thing. Get a timer! ;) They're only like $12 @ home depot. Plugs into the wall socket, you select the time it powers up, and powers off, and plug whatever you want into it! ;)

Search Results for plug in timer (http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?keyword=plug+in+timer&langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053)

[JustinxM]

yeah I'll get to it I need more reflector lamps and bulbs I only have 2 natural whites (reveals) and 3 or 4 soft whites.

[canniwhatsis]

I hate to say scrap a perfectly savable plant, but if you've got more seeds and limited budget, start more seeds and get the timer! Seedlings will be fine with your current lighting,... then while they grow in you can get more light.


Also, if your not monitoring your inbound PH go get a droper test kit,... it's like $5 at any hydro store or can be found in fish stores too. Not as good as a PH Pen, but better than a sharp stick in the eye! ;)

[JustinxM]

For ph I'm not sure I got a couple gallons of water from tap and let them sit out for days without caps occasionally i'll spray straight tap but luke warm to get maybe some of the nutrients (if any) in fresh tap. I'm gonna work on both I have 2 different spots lit up right now one for seedlings 5 or 6 are germinating in plates and paper towel just started those a day or 2 ago. and i'll those veg until i sex this plant. i'm sure it's a male i see little ball/lumps just starting to form.

[canniwhatsis]

No good, Tap PH here is 7.5-8.2 even after setting out. Get the dropper test and whatever you need to adjust PH (there are household methods, but I'd suggest "PH UP" or "PH DOWN"), it's not much and will save your plants for the better part of a year.

Bad inbound PH can wreck a plant in a week or so, Focus on the basics before going all screwy with experimenting.


I know you want to get more lights,.... but here's how your shopping list should look

1: Ph test kit
2: Timer
3: Lights

[JustinxM]

I'll have to look around for a kit usually that stuff in Michigan is found near pool isles which are seasonal around here since we have 2 feet of snow at the moment. But I'm gonna get on it timer won't be too necessary now that i'm getting my questions answered I'm working on a schedule that will be okay with me as well I'll turn the lights on real early and I'm not gonna worry about flowering right now I'm gonna let the plant veg and get some more leaves back and maybe a week or 2 begin flowering again. I'm on 18/6 and I'll be doing 12/12 with flowering but these numbers still kind of confuse me can I run my 12 hours of flowering during the 18 hours of vegging? or should I go one day 18 vegging shut off for 6 hours then turn on the flowering for 12. let it have 12 hours of complete darkness then after that 12 hours rinse and repeat with vegging again and just continue on that cycle? or once I start flowering should I not worry about vegging at all and just do 12/12 a day?

[bigtopsfinn]

To flower, you need 12 hours of complete uninterrupted darkness every night. It's very simple, 12 hours of light, 12 hours of dark, repeat until harvest. Once you start the flowering light cycle (12/12), do not change it.

If you want to have some plants vegging and some plants flowering at the same time, you need two separate grow areas on their own lighting schedules (one with 18/6, the other with 12/12).

[JustinxM]

Thank you bigtopsfinn! I'm gonna veg this hurt plant for another week or 2 without any flowering to let it re-heal a bit, unless i can determine it's sex soon and find out it's a male/herm. Last question for now! How long can I let a plant grow in a tupperware dish as shown in the attached picture mine are a little longer the ham/turkey dishes you can buy at krogers/meijers.

[canniwhatsis]

Thank you bigtopsfinn! I'm gonna veg this hurt plant for another week or 2 without any flowering to let it re-heal a bit, unless i can determine it's sex soon and find out it's a male/herm. Last question for now! How long can I let a plant grow in a tupperware dish as shown in the attached picture mine are a little longer the ham/turkey dishes you can buy at krogers/meijers.

Seriously, if your gonna keep veging,... just leave the lights ON! 24-0

Get a timer before flowering,... and find some F'n pots!!! :S2:

If your plant is already in one of those Zipplock tray's,... it had better have holes in it for drainage, and how long you can keep it in there will depend on the size of the container! ;)


Keep reading bro! :hippy:

[JustinxM]

Those tupperware dishes are for seedlings. I want to know how long I can grow a seedling in one of those before transfer to a pot.

[crushdavid]

stay in that for 4 weeks, until its nearly rootbound.

then go to 2gal

then go to 5gal for flowering