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bkbbudz
02-02-2011, 04:34 PM
Greetings,
I have A 21"dX24"WX48"T CAB. I have started 2 plants 1 Cheesus and 1 Double white (white widow and great white shark pheno). Of course I would like max yield so would a Scrog or LST be the better method?
emilya
02-02-2011, 04:59 PM
Greetings,
I have A 21"dX24"WX48"T CAB. I have started 2 plants 1 Cheesus and 1 Double white (white widow and great white shark pheno). Of course I would like max yield so would a Scrog or LST be the better method?
What sort of lights do you have in that cabinet? I would think that considering the 4" height that you don't want them to get too tall, and SCRog will help you maximize the light on the canopy while keeping the height problem in check. Keep in mind too that putting them under a screen and forcing them to grow horizontally at the top is just another form of LST, the screen idea just allows you to get a flat canopy to more efficiently use the light and space available.
Many people who SCRog also find benefit in FIM or topping to promote more side growth, and some LST early for the same reason and then later put them under a screen. Do a search on SCRog.. there is a lot of good information out there on this method of training. SCRogging is still fairly new and there are many growers out there just now experimenting with it. Check out the grow logs of the ones doing it and see what sorts of things we are learning and running into.
Emmie
canniwhatsis
02-03-2011, 03:31 AM
Too small of space to properly optimize either method for 2 plants!
Would be great for 1 tho ;) and my vote would be SCROG. :cool:
Like Emmy said tho, it depends on your light/lights.
canniwhatsis
02-03-2011, 03:44 AM
Too small of space to properly optimize either method for 2 plants!
Would be great for 1 tho ;) and my vote would be SCROG. :cool:
Like Emmy said tho, it depends on your light/lights.
Since you have 2 in that space I'd just run SOG style,... 2-3 weeks vege from clone, or a month- month.5 from seed:pimp:
P.S. Seed timing is just a guess based on personal experience and need for sexing.
bkbbudz
02-03-2011, 04:15 AM
Since you have 2 in that space I'd just run SOG style,... 2-3 weeks vege from clone, or a month- month.5 from seed:pimp:
P.S. Seed timing is just a guess based on personal experience and need for sexing.
Thanks, this was actually another thought I had.
bkbbudz
02-03-2011, 05:57 AM
In case any of you saw my other posts, like Emilya. I think you must spend more time with your girls than in class. No, I am not stalking you LOL! I have no idea who you are but I have read so many posts and have learned a ton of good stuff, Thanks.;) Anyway, I mentioned previously I had purchased a turn key cab. That very night (after a meeting with my friend Purple Mr. Nice guy :thumbsup:) I had an epihany. I had a very clear vison on how to build a very cheap completely idiot proof cab from plywood and a U-haul wardrobe cardboard box (48"h x 24"w x 21"d). The beans are in the germination towel while I complete construction. Gonna put them in their first soil soon. I am gonna put them in plastic cups under an el-cheapo soda bottle humidifier (another Emilya gem) and a cfl or 2.
I want to describe the box and get some opinions if I might.
I got plywood sheets the sizes I needed to build a box within a box. It fits perfectly into the box. 1 side has a opening cut in it and the center piece was cut in 2 to make 'doors'. The plywood parts are all mounted and caulked together to keep them upright and eliminate gaps. I cut 2 flaps in the 'door' side of the cardboard and attached the 2 remaining center pieces to them. I took scrap pieces of cardoard and attached them to the edges of the flaps and put velcro on them to create a seal. I have mylar to cover all the interior surfaces. I have placed small blocks of wood wrapped in mylar and screwed to the plywood at graduating levels. These I am gonna use to attach the cfls and fan too and possibly shelve a scrog screen at whatever level I see fit. I put 4 4" pc fans in, 2 intake in the bottom on 1 side and 2 exhaust on the top opposite side.When it is complete I am going to test heat and humidity to see if I need to use all 4 or not. I have the leftover pieces so I can plug 1 of each hole if need be. I have a clip on fan and 6 clamp on cfl fixtures. I have built light traps for the intake and exhast ports from cardboard as well, they are both attached to the exterior of the box. I got the idea for those from that guy on you tube that does the 24 part series on how to build a box. (SIDE NOTE; IMHO that guy is a bit full of himself and perhaps something else, agreed? LOL!). I think the biggest problem I going to have is the odor control. I am hoping a can of smell gel will do the trick. I also intend to have a 24/7 pot of potpurri and febreeze plug-ins in several outlets.
What do you think? It is also upgradeable. When I can afford it I am gonna get a UFO LED fixture. I am gonna get yo-yo hooks and attach them to the interior of the top cover. But as it is, the whole project is coming in at about $125.00, 1/2 what I was gonna pay for a box that was 24"h x 21"w x 18"d, and probably never would have produced more than 2 auto dwarfs at a time. All I needed was my drill, some screws, a pair of scissors, a caulk gun, a glue gun, and Avery (the guy at Home Depot that custom cut my plywood). I will post some pictures when it is complete, provided I can figure out how to post pics by then. I will hopefully be putting an entry on the grow log page soon. Providing I don't make some foolish noob mistake and kill my babies before their time. But with the never ending stream of knowledge that flows from this forum they may be safe:D. You all rock! :greenthumb:
bigtopsfinn
02-03-2011, 01:28 PM
Greetings,
I have A 21"dX24"WX48"T CAB. I have started 2 plants 1 Cheesus and 1 Double white (white widow and great white shark pheno). Of course I would like max yield so would a Scrog or LST be the better method?
Check out the 'Two Trainwrecks' link in my sig, pretty similar space. I had more headroom but taking out the carbon filter, run-off buckets and wider (instead of deeper) pots, I think you could pull it off.
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