Poker2 - Grow Log (First Grow!)

[poker2]

So for those of you that don't know me i'm Poker2!
This is my first grow. About December 17,2010 was when the seedling sprouted. January 10,2011 transplanted from party cup to medium sized pot(one you see in pics). May be time to transplant again soon. Sorry didn't start the log from day 1 =(..never thought of that.

Feel free to comment, criticize, praise or anything else you may wish to say. :jointsmile::thumbsup::)

Here are pictures right now. Leaves a crispy feeling and 95% of the older leaves are showing signs of nute burn from Miracle Grow Soil:(:mad:. Lights are CFL's 23W=100w equivalent, about 4" away from top of her. Still not sexed...it's about 6 days into flowering (12/12)...was on(16/8...on/off)
I still do not see any signs of sex :(

Strain: BubbleGum x OgKush (bubba kush)
From seed.

[poker2]

more pics

[cturner1984]

are the last 3 pics in veg or the start of flower?
they look identical to my nlxhaze same size and growing in width is almost identical....exept i planted on the 11 of jan.
one thing i would do i change pot as its a must when flowering IMHO i go from 1ltr to 2ltr to 5ltr and hope that does the job:thumbsup:

[poker2]

all these pics above are taken today (5th day of flowering at 12/12)
Ps. I will be updating this as much as I can... about everything 2 or 3 days.
These pics are taken about 10 minutes after I watered it. (water normally every 3 or so days with about 1L of water ..i get a little run off water with 1L)

[poker2]

cturner - I am planning on changing the pot, but since I did not have feminized seeds I wanted to sex before buying a new pot/transplanting/adding more soil.

[cturner1984]

cturner - I am planning on changing the pot, but since I did not have feminized seeds I wanted to sex before buying a new pot/transplanting/adding more soil.

yea i dont blame you,anyways i think your pots big enough for now,but as soon as you see the sex do your thing.
lets hope its all women :)
ill be watching

[poker2]

yea I wish or I'm gonna cry. I only have two more seeds so hopefully one of them or this one here is a female. If not there gonna be a problem :( lol
around how long until it should start showing sex?10-14days?
And the larger older fan leaves have more nute burn now ...I'll put up picks later... otherwise looking pretty healthy (knock-on-wood)

[canniwhatsis]

I've been trying to help you along from the beginning.... After looking at those pics tho, I now understand why some don't help newbs..... :(



What's your goal with this grow?

Do you understand the risk your taking? Personally,... not legally, all those extensions plugged into a splitter, plugged into extensions!!!!!!!!? :wtf:


Please for the life of MMJ find a better wiring!!!!!!!!!!!! The last thing MMJ needs is someone burning his house down trying to grow 1 f'n plant!!!! :mad:

















I will continue to help you in your grow,.... but seriously, I can't be part of something that looks overall this risky.

Your begging for problems that I can't help with.

Sorry. :( but I've got to cover my own ass first, and that needs to be posted IMO for legal reasons. I do not condone the illegal growth of medicinal marijuana in any way shape or form.

[canniwhatsis]

On the plus side,... your plant is looking pretty damed healthy! Sure you've hit a problem here or there,... welcome to your first grow.


Get your ducks in a row, and your next grow will be even better!!!!!!! :pimp:

[poker2]

Thanks for the support and good know have the extra assurance that the girl is healthy.
And as for the lighting i knoowww :( but I unfortunately spent over $100 on that stuff and is all I can manage right now. But after you say that - it scares me now..And my goal with this plant..try to get a good smokeable yield that I can keep :):jointsmile:

I will get some more pics up today and am thinking of removing some of the very first to grow out of the girl leaves that are suffering from very bad nute burn. What do you think?

For my next grow IF this one works out... I plant to get a hps, some better ventilation and femm seeds :D

[poker2]

Updated pics :)

To me, looks like quite a bit of growth from the last pics.
Showing more signs of nute burn on all of the lower leaves.
Thinking about cutting off the leaves with extreme nute burn, Good idea?Or should I leave them? And if so..the whole leave with the stem or just the leave itself?
I love watching day to day to see the differences :thumbsup:

[poker2]

Update! :)

Height wise I don't really see a difference
Bushy wise ;)... It seems to have more
Still some nute burn but don't see too much more from before...
It is about 14 days into flower (12/12) and still no signs of sex:wtf::(
The stems seem to have more stems coming off them now :)
*I need to transplant soon but was hoping to find out sex first :mad:
->Not too much more going on, just waiting and watching...hoping for a girl:jointsmile:
here are some pics:

[bkbbudz]

:thumbsup:I have not yet grown a single stem all my knowledge comes from reading these forums, so please take this with a grain of salt.

You mentioned you are using MG, is it straight from the bag? I have read alot of posts suggesting adding perlite 1:4 to cut down somewhat on the nutes. Also I believe you stated you water every 3 days or so. If it were my grow I would probably transplant after sexing and after she is settled for a a couple of light cycles, keeping her good and drenched with good drainage for several days to get rid of some excess nutes in the MG. I would check the PPM of the run off and when it gets down pretty low, I would perhaps add some budding nutes.

Again, I could be totally off base here. If so please forgive my ignorance. Good luck with your grow!!

[poker2]

^bkbbudz... I think your pretty spot on:thumbsup:

I have already added about 1/5 of my pot with perlite and mixed it well in with the MG Soil.
Budding nutes are out of the question for me right now :( and since it is my first grow I might just go mostly nature on it, just to keep things a little simple.

[Dexter007]

poker 2 your plants are looking nice and we..:thumbsup:
but i notice in the secend post how your CFL are just hanging there..
you should take some cardboard or antihing like that and paint it white or use mylar to stop losing lumens..just make a we shades around them,cos i would say youir losing at least 30% of lumens that way...i might be wrong but just wanted da let you know..best of luck with your growing:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[poker2]

Hey Dexter007 - I'm not sure what you mean by your plants are looking nice "and we..:thumbsup:" ...But i Like the "Nice" Part :)

I'll look into what you are saying. Might as well give it a try considering I don't see any negative effects that can have.
^I will do some reading and look around for something that I can use... If I can find some maylar for a really good price ;) then I might get some to put on the dark floor of mines :)

[poker2]

For those of you that are following me ;)... just though I'd post a written update..if there's no one then i'll talk to myself LOL:stoned::wtf: - some pics in a few days (because theres not too much of a difference right now from the last pics)

1.I HAD TO change the time the lights were on and off (I know not the greatest thing to do, but it was a must) I figured instead of an extra 12 hours of light I did an extra 12 hours of darkness... So it was in a 24hour dark period for a day..
2.The temperature dropped a bit during this time because I was unable to monitor it (it was around 19 degrees)... now able to check it out and have it back to 22-26 degree range
3. The girl;) still looks the same as before so im guessing/hoping that the light change didn't really affect her.

Just a question of curiosity.... I have been looking and reading around a lot for a long time and have seen many grows where people 2-3 weeks into flower have buds growing on their girls already... I'm 2 weeks into flower (12/12) and don't even have a sign of sex? Am I really far behind? Or is it dependant strain to strain?

Ps. Dexter, just saw you signature - "english is not your first language" so i'm guessing your comment was a 100% positive :thumbsup: Thanks for following my grow mate!:hippy::jointsmile: (honestly though, IMHO I can't tell english isn't your first language)... but now Back On Topic! :)

[TheBookmark]

Hey :thumbsup: been reading your posts, I'm only just starting my first grow so I cant give you much advice unfortunetly.

Apart from the nute burn your plant is looking like a little beauty!

I couldnt really tell from the pic but is that 5x100w CFL's you are using?


-TheBookmark

[tevfik]

For those of you that are following me ;)... just though I'd post a written update..if there's no one then i'll talk to myself LOL:stoned::wtf: - some pics in a few days (because theres not too much of a difference right now from the last pics)

1.I HAD TO change the time the lights were on and off (I know not the greatest thing to do, but it was a must) I figured instead of an extra 12 hours of light I did an extra 12 hours of darkness... So it was in a 24hour dark period for a day..
2.The temperature dropped a bit during this time because I was unable to monitor it (it was around 19 degrees)... now able to check it out and have it back to 22-26 degree range
3. The girl;) still looks the same as before so im guessing/hoping that the light change didn't really affect her.

Just a question of curiosity.... I have been looking and reading around a lot for a long time and have seen many grows where people 2-3 weeks into flower have buds growing on their girls already... I'm 2 weeks into flower (12/12) and don't even have a sign of sex? Am I really far behind? Or is it dependant strain to strain?

1. I changed like that too. Its fine
2. 19 degrees is OK. Don't worry about every little thing my friend.
3. I told you its fine :)

And about flowers. Well, it can be strain depended and/or plant is not mature enough yet to show sex. You know sex is an adult thing :D
And your plant wasn't all in good conditions from the beginning right? Give some time. Look from the positive sides. Females show their sex later than males, so, there you may have probably a female ;)

[poker2]

@Bookmark that's exactly what I'm using. :)
----23W, 100w equivalent cfls (4 daylight,2 other ones..don't remember name)

Tevfik Thanks for the reassurance and for ALL the help :)

Also thanks to anyone else who is following, I'll keep you guys updated..
Some of the very bottom leaves are practically dead(don't think you can see in pic) so i'll probably get a clean razor, clean it and take those off.

[bkbbudz]

Hey Dexter007 - I'm not sure what you mean by your plants are looking nice "and we..:thumbsup:" ...But i Like the "Nice" Part :)

I'll look into what you are saying. Might as well give it a try considering I don't see any negative effects that can have.
^I will do some reading and look around for something that I can use... If I can find some maylar for a really good price ;) then I might get some to put on the dark floor of mines :)

You don't need to get rolls of mylar and pay that cost. A car windshield protector, or an emergency blanket are very inexpensive alternative materials. I have seen alot of people using tin foil but, I don't think I would go there, too much hot spotting and possible burning. How about some new pics? :jointsmile:

[bigsby]

Flat white paint is cheap and 95% as effective as mylar...

[poker2]

Time for anotherr Update! :stoned:
I just watered it.
about 18 days into flowering (12/12)

Here are some pics :)
In the first pic you can see... (Look at the very middle how all the new leaves come out of one spot.. now on one of the side branches there is something like that where a bunch of new leaves are coming out of one spot and it's just like a bunch of prickly things since leaves or not big enough) ->that's new growth and something I have never seen before :)
You can see what I am talking about in the middle and bottom of first pc.
Second pic is a close up of that new growth :)
Still no sign of sex and am still waiting to transplant :(

[poker2]

Here are a few more pics :)
I added a pic of some of the leaves that looked dead to me that I took off :P
-The middle pic is what it looks like now... should I also remove those dead leaves?
Sorry for the sideways pics..don't know what to do about them.
They are straight when I view them before uploading :wtf:
If you know how I can fix that please say
:hippy::jointsmile::):stoned:

[TheBookmark]

Hey Poker, Just a guess but it looks like the site is flipping your pics to landscape veiw, and you took 2 of them in portrait

Take the pics in landscape veiw and they will be the right way up, I think :)

:jointsmile:

[poker2]

^hmm... That makes sense. I'll try that next time! :)

[LetsSeeYa]

Try this kinda light, as it works great with the CFL's. And try and hear some of these people that are trying to help ya, because it seems like you have ignored a lot of good advise. I read that someone said ''its not mature yet'' and thats why its not shown sex, id bet he's spot on:thumbsup:

Your plant looks nice:thumbsup:but like Canni said, dont burn down the house and kill people. Well i wasn't as polite as he was, but a fact. The pic i posted was my first set up and one will work for a plant. It will take four CFL's, which will give you enough to grow 1 plant with a good yield. I used these to grow 5 plants and was very happy with the yield. Its in my Sig if you want to see better pics of the lights. One cost 7 bucks at wally world. Cheap and everyone lives.

Read man, you can learn tons on here. You have a nice looking plant, you only need to try and follow the advise given to get a good grow and learn to do it on your own:jointsmile:.

Good luck man il stop back to help, but its much more easy to just read here:hippy:so then its easier to ask the right questions:)



:rasta:

[poker2]

And try and hear some of these people that are trying to help ya, because it seems like you have ignored a lot of good advise.

^I'm not sure what Advice I have "ignored". Sorry but I'm trying my best considering it is my first grow. I do know that someone said it is not mature yet :)
I appreciate you advice on the lighting and am trying to save up to re-arrange my setup. I know it's not safe:mad::(:wtf: but I spent over $120 on that setup (Sadly!) and I am not able to change it right now.
I got myself some spray paint and need to find myself some cardboard to make myself something to put over my lights to reflects some of the lumens back.
umm... What else?.... I'm still doing reading..both online and one these forums :D
Once again...I really appreciate you're help and do hope you stay to guide me, watch me or just to stop by along my grow :)
-I am trying my best :hippy:

^Stuff in Canada seems to be more expensive than in the US :mad::mad: but what can you really do right? If money wasn't an issue do you really think I would have used duct tape LOL:stoned:

[iambuterdtoast]

Hey buddy, I just got done reading your postings, and it looks like your lady is doing very well!

Hope to keep up-to-date on your grow, as well as maybe get a few pointers from a fellow newbie, good luck on some chron!

[poker2]

Hey buddy, I just got done reading your postings, and it looks like your lady is doing very well!

Hope to keep up-to-date on your grow, as well as maybe get a few pointers from a fellow newbie, good luck on some chron!

Oh yeah!! For sure...I'll keep you guys up-to-date :)
I want to/ and will continue to learn as I go and keep reading.
Thanks for the support mate!

Also... Some of the newer growth isn't as Forest Green Dark as the older growth. Would someone be able to give me some advice as to why? Is it normal? Should I ignore and and just keep and eye on it? Is it lacking some sort of nutrient?..although already suffering from nute burn from my MG soil :mad:

Oh well.. I'm not going to worry to much about that.
I'll get some more pics up soon... or when I notice some new growth :thumbsup:

poker2:hippy::jointsmile:

[Treez81]

Do u wait for the leaves to droop to water. Looks to me like the lower leaves may sit in the dirt for a little bit after u water and that is why they r burned.

[poker2]

Do u wait for the leaves to droop to water. Looks to me like the lower leaves may sit in the dirt for a little bit after u water and that is why they r burned.

That's an interesting point, I have never heard of that.
I normally just feel the soil with my finger from the top and from the drainage hole. If my finger has no moisture on it then I will water it. (Normally ends up being me watering every 3 or so days..give or take)

I will keep an eye on what the bottom leaves are doing and see. To my knowledge the larger ones sit on the edge of the pot and I am not too sure about the leaves on the inner part though(near the bottom)
There are another few leaves that look dead now.. I'll take a pic or cut them off with a clean razor etc...:hippy::jointsmile:
But I would still like to get to the bottom of this :D:wtf:

[poker2]

UPDATEE!!!....
Was just doing my daily check-up on the girl :thumbsup:
and here are some pictures...
There seems to me to be a bunch of little white "hairs" comming from almost every part of the plant which NONE were there YESTERDAY!!!

Here are some pics - someone care to confirm my reason for excitment? (knock-on-wood) :D:D:D:D

And the bottom leaves seem like they are dieing...and ideas on what to do about that =)
This was as steady as I could hold the camera on Macro setting at the moment :stoned: so If the pics are not clear enough (i'm sorry) i'll try to take some more tomm...
You guys look carfully are the stems "joints" that come of the main stem and at the very top little spot where the mostly new leaves would be growing from

[poker2]

Omgg- This time I took ALL the pictures HORIZONTALLY and they are all RIGHT SITE UP on my computer but still the same issue of the site flipping my pics :wtf::(.. sorry for the neck cramps I'm giving you guys...
Here are pics of the bottom... the bottom leaves seem to keep dieing :wtf::mad: but should I be worried? or is it okay right now?

Any/All input is good! :thumbsup::jointsmile:
Ps. About day 21 in flowering (12/12) :)

[iambuterdtoast]

Here are pics of the bottom... the bottom leaves seem to keep dieing :wtf::mad: but should I be worried? or is it okay right now?

Any/All input is good! :thumbsup::jointsmile:
Ps. About day 21 in flowering (12/12) :)

As you know with my seed starts, I am new, but have a little knowledge, and have some input about the leaves. Considering they have already pretty much dried up, would it be appropriate to give them a snip? they've given all the nutrients they can, and the canopy leaves are now consuming more energy(please correct me if I am wrong). Your plant is very bushy and I dont think a few sucker leaves are going to kill it!

Otherwise still looking good buddy, not sure on the pictures! try putting each one a different way until you figure out which way maybe.

[poker2]

@iambuterdtoast
^I am definitely looking to cut those because they look so dead, I don't think they are really going to benefit the girl in any ways.

Was hoping someone can also confirm my excitement... I'm still jumping up and down :jointsmile::.. don't worry I enjoy the suspense :thumbsup:

[iambuterdtoast]

do you mind putting up another picture of your light set-up? you are using something really similar to what im trying to do, and just getting ideas.

[poker2]

I will get you a schematic drawing or pic as soon as I am free... Just thought I'd give a quick post. :)
Can anyone give me any input on the "pistils?"
:hippy:

[poker2]

do you mind putting up another picture of your light set-up? you are using something really similar to what im trying to do, and just getting ideas.

Here's a schematic drawing made on paint :)
Will try to get something to keep my camera SUPER STEADY so I can get you better pics of what I was looking at ..."what looks like pistils to me?"tonight .... light are off right now and don't want to disturb the light cycle. :)

[poker2]

Some more ...better pics today. Found something to use as a stand to keep the cam steady...

So... are these pistils?

Oh and they are also wilting a bit.. I think they want a bigger pot now. Got to go out and get one asap :thumbsup::)

[iambuterdtoast]

indeed, those soon will form very nice flowers(buds), they are doing well and forming quite nicely, is that super fine picture of the bud the top? looks really great.

[poker2]

Whoo-hoooo :D
I'm soo glad to have that confirmation.
That's what the top of a bud looks like? ...I never knew that :wtf:
That is awesome!:)
:hippy:

[StickyBuds1987]

Whoo-hoooo :D
I'm soo glad to have that confirmation.
That's what the top of a bud looks like? ...I never knew that :wtf:
That is awesome!:)
:hippy:

yeah now just watch as she fills out and the bud bulks up she is kinda small though so dont expect a big yield

[poker2]

yeah now just watch as she fills out and the bud bulks up she is kinda small though so dont expect a big yield

:D
... Yeah I don't know why shes so small... she had an ample amount of time for veg. I'm going to have to reflect over this for next time and see if I can do anything if I decide to give it another go. Would anyone have any ideas why it's so small? Although it is my first time, so I don't have too high expectations - As long as it's some really potent stuff :thumbsup: Im HAPPY!:)
Andd I'm hoping for an ounce - dried or something around that :) (Is that too much to ask for?)

[Dexter007]

seems that your ladis are doing well:thumbsup:
bt i just wanted da ask you that what spray did ya use when sprayng light shed..i think you mentioned that here somewhere..hope it was mat not gloss:D

[rattlingdags]

Well done Poker - your first fuzzy top :thumbsup:

[poker2]

seems that your ladis are doing well:thumbsup:
bt i just wanted da ask you that what spray did ya use when sprayng light shed..i think you mentioned that here somewhere..hope it was mat not gloss:D
Actually I still did not get my hands on any cardboard :wtf::(
Am looking for something to use as an alternative or if I can get my hands on cardboard asap....
-What type of spray paint would be best? Because I can still change the one I have for a different one

Well done Poker - your first fuzzy top :thumbsup:
Yeah I'm glad the first time I ever see a plant it's a galll :jointsmile:

ANDDDD.... I think the small size of my plant ^^^ might be because it's root bound? Some of the inner leaves a wilting downwards a bit and it's been due to change pots for a few weeks now. Hopefully I can go out soon and get a bigger pot :)

-Thanks for the input guys!:hippy:

Plans for today :thumbsup:
-Cut of those really dead leaves
-MAYBE cut off two two fan leaves that are pretty much all yellow in color now, from nute burn..

[Dexter007]

it doesnt have do be spray eaven just a white sealing painty.best thing..
ill upload some pictures for you later tho show ecsacly how do make cheap lamp sheds..they probaly dont cost you nothing..max 5dollars..
or i might publish my web page later with all the information about building growlights..etc...i just need da wate when im geting my check changed and make a money tranfer..

[tikiroom]

Thought these pictures might help you get some ideas.
This reflector is made from a power-strip, a piece of metal ducting, and some hardware.
Total price was just under ten bucks. :thumbsup: (That price does not include the bulbs or y-splitters.)


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[TheBookmark]

Thought these pictures might help you get some ideas.
This reflector is made from a power-strip, a piece of metal ducting, and some hardware.
Total price was just under ten bucks. :thumbsup: (That price does not include the bulbs or y-splitters.)

Very nice tikiroom :)

Some of the bulbs look dimmer than others, different spectrums?

-TBm

[tikiroom]

Yeah it's a mix of different spectrums.

[LetsSeeYa]

^I'm not sure what Advice I have "ignored". Sorry but I'm trying my best considering it is my first grow. I do know that someone said it is not mature yet :)

Yes and is why it took so long to show sex.


I appreciate you advice on the lighting and am trying to save up to re-arrange my setup. I know it's not safe:mad::(:wtf: but I spent over $120 on that setup (Sadly!) and I am not able to change it right now.
I got myself some spray paint and need to find myself some cardboard to make myself something to put over my lights to reflects some of the lumens back.

Look in my grow log in my Sig, just click on it and you will see how i kept the light with in a tight grow area. I cut a cardboard box and surrounded the grow area with flat white painted cardboard. A brush is best as one can will not be enough, because it will absorb the paint so give it two coats of flat paint. I used killz, two coats worked great. Then put the plant in a corner and lower your lights below the cardboard as this will help reflect light. And you have splitters and CFL's already, so $7.00 at any hardware or wally will give you one of the lights i used. Perfect for one plant, but could add side lighting later in the grow. Just go in my log to see the pics, which will help you understand what i mean about keeping your light tight.

Duct tape is a growers friend, it can help ya in ways other methods might not for a fast fix. I will look for the light Shake made out of card board and duct tape. Served him well:hippy:with nice grows.

Its not hard to go behind some big ass store and take card board. Look behind one that sells TV's or freezers or something, but im sure if ya ask any store they would give it to ya. Tell em your moving:thumbsup:

Id bet your leaves are yellow because you water way to much. Plus id bet your root bound so re pot asap. When you water it will activate the ferts in the soil, so your over feeding it. You should let it get almost bone dry before watering and this will help the fert burn. I would only water 2x a week at the most and take that try out from under your plant. The water should run free through the plant and with that tray under there you will get root rot. Never use these.



umm... What else?.... I'm still doing reading..both online and one these forums :D
Once again...I really appreciate you're help and do hope you stay to guide me, watch me or just to stop by along my grow :)
-I am trying my best :hippy:

Thats great man, because reading is important, it also helps to ask questions that people understand. Im here to help as much as i can bro:thumbsup:and the best will get you a nice grow.


^Stuff in Canada seems to be more expensive than in the US :mad::mad: but what can you really do right? If money wasn't an issue do you really think I would have used duct tape LOL:stoned:

You only need around 7-8 bucks to buy the hook light and get the smaller one as the bigger one will not hold 4 CFL's. Maybe take your splitters with you to see if they will fit. The bigger hook lights hood doesnt let you pull it up to get all 4 of the CFL's in your splitters, it will only fit two CFL's.

If you do these things, which are very low cost, you might get that oz your wanting. Just add card board, hook light, maybe ask around for some flat white paint in someone's garage, we have all seen paint in peoples garage, lol.

But your first thing is to stop watering so much. When the soil drys out, the roots get great oxygen, which helps your plant grow. If you have a bunch of mucky soil all wet at the bottom of your pot, it will stop growing.

Sorry but first thing is to re pot, today! Many things can become a pot, just make sure there are lots of holes in the bottom for drainage without the tray under it. I have a''how to'' re pot in my Sig that will help with re potting without any stress to your plant. Works great, but ya gotta let her dry out first, but you will see it in the thread.

I will be back, but id jump on the re pot and slow down the watering and your on track. See how easy this hobby is:jointsmile:it gets more easy each grow man, just dont get in a rush. It takes time, but the reward is unbelievable:jointsmile::cool:

Any questions, just ask, but here. No one can help ya if your hopping all over the site. I know it seems like forever some times to get a response, but im here at least once a day or so and im subscribed so il see your posts.



Keep er green bro:rasta:

[StickyBuds1987]

yeah i agree with LSY do what he says read and ask questions, have some patience and things will come together

also dont count your chickens before they hatch as a first time grower think positive but dont get your hopes up as to yield just hope to have a successful grow then worry about improving

[poker2]

@LSY
Really appreciate it and thanks for subbing :thumbsup:

I just got a way bigger Clay pot (it's cheaper than the other pots LOL)
I will replant tomorrow at night...just letting the soil dry out a bit more and won't be able to do it today.

I found some white ceiling paint in my garage so I might use that over the other I had got.... Within the next two days everything should hopefully be setup :)

You wrote A LOTT so it's going to take me a bit to digest all of that LOL. I already read it three different times and I keep finding something new in all of that :stoned:

The hook lights I will look into around stores near me and see how that works

Thanks

@Tikiroom

Nice pics! That's a really good idea... I may try that or the hook lights.... Going to check out what works for me.

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Yield wise I am not expecting a big/huge yield simply because it is my first time after all and there are a few things I could have done better like my soil, timing of transplanting, timing of watering etc BUT on the plus side, the more You do it the More you LEARN! :jointsmile::)
:hippy:

[iambuterdtoast]

I concur! great stuff there, I am always keeping my eye on this to make my notes for down the line, I can't wait!

[poker2]

^ Sure thing! Glad that you drop by ;):)

Just thought I'd give a quick verbal update...
Will be transplanting in a few hours into a significantly larger pot.
I got some Flat White Ceiling Paint and did one coat on some cardboard... will do a second coat once the first one dry's a little bit more.

Will also post some more pics :thumbsup:...later tonight once the lights go on.
Plant seems a bit more droopy right now (last time I checked- when lights were on) but the transplant should hopefully solve that.

I just had a bit of things on my mind...
->>Would I be able to just transplant into the same (miracle grow) soil again? Or would it be still too much nutes in it already? What if I was to take out some of the nutes in the soil(the pearl balls) by hand?...or would that be wayy to much work?

[bigsby]

The white bits in the soil are perlite, a form of volcanic rock that both promotes drainage but also holds water. The nutes are fine particulate in the soil. Best to just start with something fresh.

[poker2]

^I know what perlite is:thumbsup:.. I also add a little bit more into the MG soil even though it already has some...
I was referring to white little pearl like balls that have the nutes in them.... They open up with the water and release the nutrients.
I will be transplanting verrrryyy soon and putting up some pics- lights turn on sooon :D:jointsmile:
:hippy:

Andd.. that's probably what I will do... just use the fresh MG as is with a little extra perlite. =) I never knew where perlite came from though - interesting!

[poker2]

UPDATEE! :stoned:

Here are some pic...
1.I transplanted - In Miracle Grow Soil(3-mnth auto release) and had to add a little bit of scotts (6-month auto release) soil because I was short:(
2.I also watered - about 2 and 1/2 Liters of water and then I ran out of the good water I am using LOL..too many shortages :( but I'll water some more tomorrow or I will wait until this watering dry's and then go and water again.
3. Also made a reflector hood :D (Got some cardboard and did TWO Coats of Flat White Ceiling Paint)

What do you think?:thumbsup::jointsmile:
:hippy:

Pics Belowww =P - Also took some close ups of where the pistils are forming :)

[poker2]

andd a few more pics :jointsmile:

[iambuterdtoast]

ahh there they are, as promised, still looking good! :thumbsup:

I cant wait to see the finished product, I'm here with you buddy!

[LetsSeeYa]

UPDATEE! :stoned:

Here are some pic...
1.I transplanted - In Miracle Grow Soil(3-mnth auto release) and had to add a little bit of scotts (6-month auto release) soil because I was short:(
2.I also watered - about 2 and 1/2 Liters of water and then I ran out of the good water I am using LOL..too many shortages :( but I'll water some more tomorrow or I will wait until this watering dry's and then go and water again.
3. Also made a reflector hood :D (Got some cardboard and did TWO Coats of Flat White Ceiling Paint)

I really hope you re potted while your lights were on? Also do not give water till your plant is dry. Period. Or you will activate the ferts in that soil and burn the shit out of your plant. Only give water and less is more!

Man get those trays from under your plants and dont use them at all. You want your water to flow through the plant and out the hole in the bottom of the pot. If you continue to keep the trays under your pots, your plant will pull up water from it. At the same time you are sticking your finger down into the soil, you will think it need water, in less your finger is 12'' long. So you over water and over fert at the same time, not to mention that roots that are in water all the time get no air. Plus its a good way to get root rot.

No water today. I would wait till you pick up the pot and feel how heavy it is after you water. Then in 4 days pick up the pot, feel how heavy it is. Plants like to dry out at times, but your keeping your soil wet, could be the reason your plant is not growing like you think it should be. ex. Last year i was getting my seeds popped and ready for my outdoor go round. Well i didn't add perlite so when i transplanted them to bigger pots, i found they had their roots in mucky wet soil that would had killed them if i had not caught them in time. Lose the trays from under your pots man. If i can find the pic of what they looked like before i fixed them, il post it.

And reason i wrote so much is because thats what was needed. Found paint in the garage and a bigger pot, cool. Plus the hood you made looks ok, but if ya can, try and move it closer to the lights so it will reflect the light. And surround your plant with the painted card board to give more to your plant.

What did your roots look like, did they smell bad?


Il be back in a bit:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Thought these pictures might help you get some ideas.
This reflector is made from a power-strip, a piece of metal ducting, and some hardware.
Total price was just under ten bucks. :thumbsup: [SIZE="1"](That price does not include the bulbs or y-splitters.)



Killer light tiki:thumbsup:

Poker if you look at the first pic of tiki's lights you can see it reflecting light. You need to move your hood closer so it will reflect light like tiki's does:hippy:


And the cardboard i was talking about is to surround your plant. Painted flat white will reflect light to your plant. The more you keep your grow area tight, the more the light will reflect back to your plant and the mo light, the mo better:thumbsup:



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[poker2]

@LSY
Thanks for the reply.

I'll get some more cardboard soon an put it around 3 sides of the plants (side where air comes from i'll leave open.)
I'm just afraid that the card board can catch on fire from the CFL's... CAN IT? if not then i'll glady move the "reflector" down some more. (I will maybe be changing the setup soon) If not then at least I'll try to make myself something similar to what Tiki has - looks awesome.

I found a pic online - THIS IS NOT MY ACTUAL PLANT!! but my roots looked similar to this. NOT white but similar the the rest of the roots you see in the pic below... Once again that is NOT an actual pic of my plant!:)
And nothing seemed to smell "bad"... the smell was fine if any was really there. I don't really notice much of a smell other than what the girl actually smells like :thumbsup:
What should I put under my plant then if I take out that tray? I can't really leave it on the bare hardwood because the run-off water might ruin it. Any ideas for what type of thing I should put under the pot?...a towel?

And I will not water it for a while until it seems dry to me.
:hippy::jointsmile:

[LetsSeeYa]

@LSY
Thanks for the reply.

I'll get some more cardboard soon an put it around 3 sides of the plants (side where air comes from i'll leave open.)
I'm just afraid that the card board can catch on fire from the CFL's... CAN IT? if not then i'll glady move the "reflector" down some more. (I will maybe be changing the setup soon) If not then at least I'll try to make myself something similar to what Tiki has - looks awesome.

I found a pic online - THIS IS NOT MY ACTUAL PLANT!! but my roots looked similar to this. NOT white but similar the the rest of the roots you see in the pic below... Once again that is NOT an actual pic of my plant!:)
And nothing seemed to smell "bad"... the smell was fine if any was really there. I don't really notice much of a smell other than what the girl actually smells like :thumbsup:
What should I put under my plant then if I take out that tray? I can't really leave it on the bare hardwood because the run-off water might ruin it. Any ideas for what type of thing I should put under the pot?...a towel?

And I will not water it for a while until it seems dry to me.
:hippy::jointsmile:

Good it doesnt smell or the bottom roots could have been rotted. I use under pads or puppy pads, you might potty train a dog with. But news paper or anything that will not keep run off water in it. Maybe put rocks in those trays to raise the plant above the bottom of the tray. And dont water with them under your plant, even if you gotta water it in your sink and let sit awhile or till there is no run off from under the plant. Then put on top of the rocks so it will not pull water from the tray.

And yeah you can lower your reflector. You should also find a fan to blow air around in your grow area, it will help cool the lights as well give nice fresh air to your plants. Your cardboard will meet on each side of the fan to enclose the area:hippy:




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[poker2]

Okay, So I lowered the reflector hood.
Replaced the tin with newspaper.
Am just waiting to get some more card board and will build a "box" around my area :)
I normally have my fan or revolving option and on medium speed:jointsmile:
:hippy:

[LetsSeeYa]

Okay, So I lowered the reflector hood.
Replaced the tin with newspaper.
Am just waiting to get some more card board and will build a "box" around my area :)
I normally have my fan or revolving option and on medium speed:jointsmile:
:hippy:

Cool man:thumbsup:

Just put the fan inside your space then, it will help steady your plant up with the fan acting as natural wind. Your plant should luv it:thumbsup:


Keep er green bro:rasta:

[poker2]

Cool man:thumbsup:

Just put the fan inside your space then, it will help steady your plant up with the fan acting as natural wind. Your plant should luv it:thumbsup:


Keep er green bro:rasta:

Yepp fo'sure!
Should I keep the fan on ALWAYS!? and aboutt how much would the raise the electricity bill?
I have the fan on random times for random periods of time. (Isn't that how nature is?;)) LOL but should I leave it on?

[LetsSeeYa]

Yepp fo'sure!
Should I keep the fan on ALWAYS!? and aboutt how much would the raise the electricity bill?
I have the fan on random times for random periods of time. (Isn't that how nature is?;)) LOL but should I leave it on?

I keep mine on 24-7. And its not going to raise your bill that much at all. I would keep it on low all the time. Leave it on low all the time:hippy:



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[poker2]

I keep mine on 24-7. And its not going to raise your bill that much at all. I would keep it on low all the time. Leave it on low all the time:hippy:



:rasta:

Sure Thing!
I'll probably post some pictures later. Not much change :(
The leaves are looking a bit more crystally though:)
How much bigger do you think it will get height wise? (I'm just curious)
And does bud grow at every place there are pistils?
:hippy::jointsmile:

[poker2]

Hey guys... I'm at roughly day 47 of flowering...
The seed bag said 8 weeks of flowering before harvest (8weeks - 7days a week=56days approx.)

Is it now time to flush? (I never really used nutes because I have been struggling with stupid nute burn from what ever the soil is giving already.
And about how much I see on the plant - is that about what the final amount will be?
...Just eye-balling it ...doesn't look like very much at all =( - How come people on other grow logs in these forums have plants that are sooooo "FULL"?

I'll try to get a pic or two up tonight

[poker2]

Here's where I'm at :jointsmile:
Is this pretty much what my final yield will be?
Should I flush soon or not at all?
Why is the plant drooping?... watered 3 or 4 days ago ...but still a little moist
How much does nute burn(on the leaves i can see..) effect bud production?(Is it positive or netgative)
Should I cut off some of the fan leaves to let light to the lower buds?

[canniwhatsis]

Not done yet by my guess.

How long has it been in flower?

My best guess would be it's got about 2 more weeks, but that's a guess.
If you've been using extra nutes, start flushing now and if it finishes off earlier your still set.
it's drooping?
Depends on the severity, what I'm seeing in the pics is pretty much normal for most of the strains I've got going.
There's different schools of thought on trimming fan leaves. One say's yes, cut em off to let light down to lower buds. the other, and the one I'm a member of says NO don't cut them off, they are providing the food for the plant. Plants NEED their leaves for photosynthesis.

Looks pretty good tho, you'll get some fair smoke from it for sure! :jointsmile:

Pic is my last harvest,... you can see the tips of the leaves are getting pretty burned,.... so I don't think you've got anything to worry about.;)

[poker2]

Oh WOWW!!!! That's awesome. I wish mines was half as good as that...I'm guessing experience plays a huge part of that huh?:thumbsup:
I'm at day 47 of FLOWER (+ 1month of veg before that) and it said to flower for 8weeks (Which is 56days) so I only have 9 more days left? Or I should leave it for longer? (Don't have a magnifine glass and will be going by looking at the color of most of the pistils..as they get older they turn brown'ish color)
I'm only nutes the plant got was from the soil and it had nute burn all it's life almost... so should I flush? And would that cause even more nute burn?

Thanks mate
:jointsmile::hippy:

[tikiroom]

The reason for the growth is the lighting. I have heard that CFL grows usually take a little longer to mature.

[poker2]

Oh! Okay then.. guess it would be fine leaving it a week or a bit more longer than what was on the bag....
That was all I could afford at the time, maybe next time around if I'm lucky I can get a HPS or something similar.
:jointsmile::hippy:

..And it should grow quite a bit more right? ...would raising the cfls help it "stretch" a bit higher? or would that be a bad idea?

[poker2]

Hey guys, been a while since I posted on daaa logggg
According to the package I should be harvesting in 2 days...
What I have learned from here :thumbsup: ... I'll give it another 4 or 5 days or so.
I watered the girl around 2 days ago and was thinking about flushing now, since I am "technically" using nutes (in soil) BUT soil isn't exactly dry.... :(
-Water wise ...silly question considering how far along I am buttt I thought I would ask just for the assurance.

Can I use the water from my shower/bathtub? And room temperature water? or cold or warm? I have been using filtered water from my fridge - but it pours out cold and I normally leave it in a bucket in my room(that's closed..the bucket :P) There is no way I can get that much water (to flush with) from the fridge filter tap. Or someone have another suggestion?

I'm almost at the end of the road! :D
After this I will probably do a lot more reading/reflecting and UPGRADING :thumbsup: LOL
And possibly another more independent/organized g-log
Thanks for those that sat and watched/helped so far
:jointsmile::hippy:

[poker2]

Triping...when harvesting so... Manicuring?!:stoned:
When harvesting what part do I cut?
And do I also trip OFF the pistils that are sticking out?
Any tips appreciated!
:jointsmile::hippy: