What's the deal with this bullshit?

[stoner868]

Alright, I like marijuana as much as the next guy, and the guy after him, and so on.. but I think this is quite bullshit. forgive me if i'm wrong but this is how im seeing it.

Because you aren't fully healthy, you have a disability, etc the government says you are allowed to smoke the illegal product 'marijuana'. so what does marijuana do thats so dangerous to healthy people... if it helps illness then why cant healthy people use it, it has NO bad reprocutions and even if it did i GAURANTEE that a sick person would get affected badly from marijuana before a healthy person ever would..

i think the government is fuckin pathetic with its attempts to keep marijuana illegal for everyone exccept the ill its not right.. its stupid as fuck and should be stopped.. if a sick person is able to smoke a joint and be perfectly fine what is so bad about a healthy person smoking?

i can goto a bar and order 15 beers, be drunk out of my face and drive home, cause a 150 car pile up and die.

i can goto any store, buy a pack of cigerrettes, sit in my car with the windows up and smoke the whole pack and die of cancer.

OR

i can goto the neibourhood dealer and buy some weed, doesnt matter if its $5 worth or $500 worth, you cant overdose, you cant die from it, and it doesnt intoxicate you nearly as much as alcohol.

and when was the last time someone smoked a joint and started going crazy and shooting everyone.. NEVER. but this sort of thing happens all the time with alcohol and even ciggeretes, because their highly addictive and people go crazy when they cant find them.

with marijuana you get high, you relax, you make friends, never even think of causing problems, its such a peaceful drug.. wow i hate saying that word because i dont believe marijuana is even a drug, its just a plant like any other plants... honestly i can smoke weed all day and still get behind the wheel of a vehichle, work my job, goto school or whatever i have to do in a day, with alcohol your intoxicated basicly all day..

anyways sorry for long post but my point is.. LEGALIZE MARIJUANA FOR EVERYONE, NOT JUST THE SICK AND ILL. its bullshit and i hope some people agree with me on this, because think about it, people everyday are trying to get disaeases or whatever is needed to get medical marijuana, and alot of people probably fake it to and some doctors are probably crukked

[Lynhal]

Wow, I would hate to be someone who gets in your way today! :S2:

The sick need it, as do the healthy that have discovered its beneficial medicinal properties. It relieves stress which is one of the number one killers because it leads to other health issues ... so why not go relieve your stress? :thumbsup:

Have a great day!

[stoner868]

Wow, I would hate to be someone who gets in your way today! :S2:

The sick need it, as do the healthy that have discovered its beneficial medicinal properties. It relieves stress which is one of the number one killers because it leads to other health issues ... so why not go relieve your stress? :thumbsup:

Have a great day!

lol yes it removes stress, but i just dont get why the government/president depending where were from doesnt realise what a goldmine their sitting on, by legalizing and taxing marijuana canada alone would make probably close to 25 billion a year, most people cant name off 5 friends that dont smoke marijuana.. more people smoke marijuana id say than the people that dont. and i dont think its fair that sick people get it legally.. kinda makes me want to have glaucoma or whatever the least bad illness is to get legal marijuana.. and im sure im not the only one that thinks this way

[BackWoodDrifter]

lol yes it removes stress, but i just dont get why the government/president depending where were from doesnt realise what a goldmine their sitting on, by legalizing and taxing marijuana canada alone would make probably close to 25 billion a year, most people cant name off 5 friends that dont smoke marijuana.. more people smoke marijuana id say than the people that dont. and i dont think its fair that sick people get it legally.. kinda makes me want to have glaucoma or whatever the least bad illness is to get legal marijuana.. and im sure im not the only one that thinks this way

Nope no harm done pilgrem and be sidin with ya on most what yu be sayin well except the smoke and drive part please dont better safe for all then sorry for one just my opinion. Any ways pilgrem all for yur vent and as i be sayin share alot in what yur frustrated bout now all yu need be doin is join the ranks to get it legalized for all and do it right without hostility and do it well voice to yur local governments and show yur support with the same fire be burnin in yu now on the issue we will get there one day we just need to stay focused and educated and voice it professionaly in order to come off that way and not just a bunch of druggies is what they like to see us as and it not be right.

BWD

[stoner868]

Nope no harm done pilgrem and be sidin with ya on most what yu be sayin well except the smoke and drive part please dont better safe for all then sorry for one just my opinion. Any ways pilgrem all for yur vent and as i be sayin share alot in what yur frustrated bout now all yu need be doin is join the ranks to get it legalized for all and do it right without hostility and do it well voice to yur local governments and show yur support with the same fire be burnin in yu now on the issue we will get there one day we just need to stay focused and educated and voice it professionaly in order to come off that way and not just a bunch of druggies is what they like to see us as and it not be right.

BWD

i agree with everything you said man, id really love nothing more in my lifetime than to see marijuana become legalized, and if im part of the reason it gets legalized, ill feel rediculiously great. theres not a lot i know, im not the smartest guy, but there is one thing i have a passion for and its marijuana.

also this unrelated but BWD nice beard in ur pic ;d its nicer than mine by far

[Lynhal]

lol yes it removes stress, but i just dont get why the government/president depending where were from doesnt realise what a goldmine their sitting on, by legalizing and taxing marijuana canada alone would make probably close to 25 billion a year, most people cant name off 5 friends that dont smoke marijuana.. more people smoke marijuana id say than the people that dont. and i dont think its fair that sick people get it legally.. kinda makes me want to have glaucoma or whatever the least bad illness is to get legal marijuana.. and im sure im not the only one that thinks this way

The government does know the goldmine they are sitting on, they just don't want the hassle from losing the other goldmine that the drug cartels give them to help finance their campaigns and such. I know people might not believe that to be true ... but sadly, from what I have learned it is. :(

[BackWoodDrifter]

i agree with everything you said man, id really love nothing more in my lifetime than to see marijuana become legalized, and if im part of the reason it gets legalized, ill feel rediculiously great. theres not a lot i know, im not the smartest guy, but there is one thing i have a passion for and its marijuana.

also this unrelated but BWD nice beard in ur pic ;d its nicer than mine by far

Be holdin a sign high by yur side one day pilgrem be sencin that fur sur! Be proud to along as we aint gettin shot at k? I be usein my weapons fur huntin these days not be needin weapons fur bloodshed no more be havin enough that in me lifetime just be shootin to be eatin and that be that.

BWD


And yu be more right then folks be knowin Lyn yu be smarter then the average bear LOL Be glad yur on our side pilgrem.

BWD

[aikidoisbudo]

egypt coming to a city near us!

[Lynhal]

And yu be more right then folks be knowin Lyn yu be smarter then the average bear LOL Be glad yur on our side pilgrem.
BWD

Thanks for that, BWD. I am glad to be on the side that is the right side IMHO. I just wish it was in all of the worlds HO's. :( I really hope I see legalization within my lifetime. I know most of us feel that way, too.

Peace to you, my friend. :hippy:

[BackWoodDrifter]

Thanks for that, BWD. I am glad to be on the side that is the right side IMHO. I just wish it was in all of the worlds HO's. :( I really hope I see legalization within my lifetime. I know most of us feel that way, too.

Peace to you, my friend. :hippy:

Right back at ya pilgrem!:thumbsup:

BWD

[MarijuanaMike11]

LEGALIZE MARIJUANA FOR EVERYONE, NOT JUST THE SICK AND ILL. its bullshit and i hope some people agree with me on this, because think about it, people everyday are trying to get disaeases or whatever is needed to get medical marijuana, and alot of people probably fake it to and some doctors are probably crukked[/QUOTE]

It sucks, but we need to go 1 step at a time. It won't get legal for general use until the Gov't actually funds some research on the values of MJ. I understand wanting to get it legal across the board, but we need to first get it to those that need it medicinally. Only after this will the benefits for general use get any type of attention.
Yes, people that don't really need it do get their authorization. The most common reason is chronic pain (more specifically low back pain). It's hard for a Dr to do a complete review of someone's medical hx in the few mins they see the new PT. If I recall correctly, any Dr or hosp HAS to take to heart what you are telling them or complaining about as a new PT.

MM

[snowballz]

Have people sign a form and get about 10,000 people to sign,this can be done at flea markets,trade shows and the internet,send the signed papers to congress senate etc..
You know everyone here would sign it,use facebook,myspace,tweeter,youtube,yahoo and sites like google to have people 'pass' it around and sign,I been doing this for this form.
Example one here


South Carolina Medical Marijuana Initiative Petition (http://www.petitiononline.com/scdlr/petition.html)

I found this for my state and passed it around.
This is to try and get it legalized for medical use,,I know you want it %100 legal,,so do I,,it should be done in small steps,there will more of a protest from people who dont want to make it legal than the ones who do,if its open legal for all,,they will march protest stand on the steps of the white house,get on t.v etc...

Even if their is more people who support it,the protesters who dont WILL win,,its because we are potheads,we will be like screw marching,,i just burned one,,or afraid to loose their jobs due to being seen by their boss,church,friends employees,customers (if they own a company) they feel it would hurt them than do more good.

If it slowly moves in,,through medical use,,then it will be more accepted,,if Preacher Bob needs it for his eyes,,its ok,,his church will accept it,little old Aunt Sue needs it for cancer,,its ok,,family will accept it,once its widely accepted and the FDA finds no known health risks then it will be regulated like beer or cigarettes.

Its sortta like bad feet,,yea they smell bad,,but around it enough you get use to it.


I think the biggest problem for getting it legal is many politicians are scared of loosing votes due to people who oppose it..
I call and send e-mails to all politicians asking them to legalize it,(not just for medical use) have done so for years,and question the ones who dont and let them know I will Not vote someone who isnt open minded.

This is a great time to push politicians towards legalizing it and many people dont realize it.

The economy is very bad,we need a rainbow with a pot of gold at the end of it,and this is it,politicians know this they just need support from taxpayers,California has made almost 13 billion a year,,according to a report from CNNNEWS.COM on medical marijuana alone...(it may have been a misprint,cause thats a hell of alot of money)


(If it doesnt get legal is because we are not working hard enough to get it accepted.)

It can help with 5 known types of cancer,eating disorders,be taken as a replacement for a nerve pill,sleep aid,panic attacks,headaches,body aches,muscle spasms,nerve damage,with no known type of side effects!!--so in one sense EVERYBODY has these problems,,that means that nearly every one can get on medical marijuana if you see a doctor..(i say this because everybody I know can get on nerve pills)

If politicians see how other states are gaining money then they will push for it for their state,because they want their fat greedy fists in that cookie jar themselves,,all they need is support,,alot of support from the tax payers and voters..let them cram their fist in that jar until their fat azz chokes,as long as it gets legal.

Find out which politicians support it and support them,,I been voting politicians in office mostly based on if they support it or not,,yea,,bad voting on my part,but in the past 10 years or so. I have noticed a change and see its slowly working..I contact friends and family and request them to support them and ask them to get their friends to support them.

It wont happen over night,but so far its slowly getting more and more accepted,in Denver a few yrs ago,they past a law stating you can have up to a ounce and be ok.not sure if that law is still in effect,a politician named Charley Brown (yes his azz is named after a blockhead) said he wasnt having hippie vans pull up in his state he would fight it.so I sent him a nice letter.

Take Care I do agree with you,if i can get beer,guns,cigarettes why not weed..

[rudy2010]

You would think that since Clinton, W and Obama all smoked it would be socially acceptable by now. For the most part it is. The problem is not so much the drug cartels or social stigma ut rather the businesses that would lose business if marijuana was legal. The drug companies have the most to lose and are paying their lobbyists to pay off the politicians to make sure it stays illegal. Right in line behind them is the Alcohol producers lobbyists. Any other business with anything to lose if it is legalized is forking over bags of money to the politicians too.

We need to weed out the beurocrats (sp?) at the federal level who keep taking the payoffs. The states need to legalize with clear language that does not limit quantities. It needs to be truly legal not barely legal like the CA law that voters rejected. A 5 x 5 plot is not large enough to grow enough weed for a year. You should be able to posess enough weed to last from harvest to harvest. I can buy all the alcohol I can afford and can store as much as I want. The same should be true for weed.

[Eons]

Alright, I like marijuana as much as the next guy, and the guy after him, and so on.. but I think this is quite bullshit. forgive me if i'm wrong but this is how im seeing it.

Because you aren't fully healthy, you have a disability, etc the government says you are allowed to smoke the illegal product 'marijuana'. so what does marijuana do thats so dangerous to healthy people... if it helps illness then why cant healthy people use it, it has NO bad reprocutions and even if it did i GAURANTEE that a sick person would get affected badly from marijuana before a healthy person ever would..

i think the government is fuckin pathetic with its attempts to keep marijuana illegal for everyone exccept the ill its not right.. its stupid as fuck and should be stopped.. if a sick person is able to smoke a joint and be perfectly fine what is so bad about a healthy person smoking?

i can goto a bar and order 15 beers, be drunk out of my face and drive home, cause a 150 car pile up and die.

i can goto any store, buy a pack of cigerrettes, sit in my car with the windows up and smoke the whole pack and die of cancer.

OR

i can goto the neibourhood dealer and buy some weed, doesnt matter if its $5 worth or $500 worth, you cant overdose, you cant die from it, and it doesnt intoxicate you nearly as much as alcohol.

and when was the last time someone smoked a joint and started going crazy and shooting everyone.. NEVER. but this sort of thing happens all the time with alcohol and even ciggeretes, because their highly addictive and people go crazy when they cant find them.

with marijuana you get high, you relax, you make friends, never even think of causing problems, its such a peaceful drug.. wow i hate saying that word because i dont believe marijuana is even a drug, its just a plant like any other plants... honestly i can smoke weed all day and still get behind the wheel of a vehichle, work my job, goto school or whatever i have to do in a day, with alcohol your intoxicated basicly all day..

anyways sorry for long post but my point is.. LEGALIZE MARIJUANA FOR EVERYONE, NOT JUST THE SICK AND ILL. its bullshit and i hope some people agree with me on this, because think about it, people everyday are trying to get disaeases or whatever is needed to get medical marijuana, and alot of people probably fake it to and some doctors are probably crukked

yo i hear ya bro. WHat you have to understand in the CIA is the biggest drug dealer in the wolrd. Whey not only distribute drugs to usa but to everywhere on the planet. they do this for "BLACK PROJECT" CASH it brings in 100's of billions. Don't be fooled on y its still is kept illegal. The feds make more cash it being illegal than it being legal.