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BUDEZZ
01-24-2011, 09:15 PM
YOUR GONNA LAUGH :)

..But witch is high on a ph chart 3 or 11, and witch ph is best to use ??

BackWoodDrifter
01-24-2011, 09:31 PM
YOUR GONNA LAUGH :)

..But witch is high on a ph chart 3 or 11, and witch ph is best to use ??

Wow dont think I ever seen such a varience of level 3 I be figurn would be to low and 11 way to high! either number I think would be deadly to yur plants i work in dirt pilgrem and like mine dialed in about 6 to 6.5 and it seams to work for me. Test the water runoff after waterin works best to read ph. Good luck hope yu grow well


BWD

Weezard
01-24-2011, 11:04 PM
YOUR GONNA LAUGH :)

..But witch is high on a ph chart 3 or 11, and witch ph is best to use ??

You are correct.
Laughed, and spluttered.
You mus' be have some excellent meds.:D

Here's da long answer 'cause ya made me laugh.

PH stands for Potential Hydrogen.
3 is a low number.
And, the lower the number, the more acidity.
PH 3 is ten times more acid than PH 4.
PH 7 is about neutral.
PH 11 would be very alkaline.

BWD is right about the soil range.:thumbsup:
Hydro will grow better at a lower PH than you want for soil.
As low as 5.2.
I let my DWC drift between 5.2 and 6.2.
Soil is mo' betta above PH 6 probably because it act as a buffer.

Thanks for the chuckle.
Weezard.

BUDEZZ
01-24-2011, 11:38 PM
HAHAHA!! KNEW SOMONE WOULD :)

Cheers bud ... !

Dexter007
01-24-2011, 11:45 PM
You are correct.
Laughed, and spluttered.
You mus' be have some excellent meds.:D

Here's da long answer 'cause ya made me laugh.

PH stands for Potential Hydrogen.
3 is a low number.
And, the lower the number, the more acidity.
PH 3 is ten times more acid than PH 4.
PH 7 is about neutral.
PH 11 would be very alkaline.

BWD is right about the soil range.:thumbsup:
Hydro will grow better at a lower PH than you want for soil.
As low as 5.2.
I let my DWC drift between 5.2 and 6.2.
Soil is mo' betta above PH 6 probably because it act as a buffer.

Thanks for the chuckle.
Weezard.

your right,BUT heres a wee BUT..there before christmas 1 of my mates run a wee test.ok..
he bought 2 small greenhouses what he used in his basement.2 same seeds(some autoflowering lowrider hybrid ,36 days from seed to bud)
and he got better result with 4,5 than 5,8.ok like you know im no expert but am i right if im sayng that it depends of the strain as well?and all the equipment what he used was ecxacly the same,same temp,same SOD,everithing(only reason why he did that ws cos he had a argument same way over soil PH levels.

BUDEZZ
01-24-2011, 11:50 PM
My plants are yellow on the tip's ! so is my ph to low ?? ...

tevfik
01-24-2011, 11:59 PM
your right,BUT heres a wee BUT..there before christmas 1 of my mates run a wee test.ok..
he bought 2 small greenhouses what he used in his basement.2 same seeds(some autoflowering lowrider hybrid ,36 days from seed to bud)
and he got better result with 4,5 than 5,8.ok like you know im no expert but am i right if im sayng that it depends of the strain as well?and all the equipment what he used was ecxacly the same,same temp,same SOD,everithing(only reason why he did that ws cos he had a argument same way over soil PH levels.


I read somewhere, these plants can survive in very wide range of PH. They just can't absorb nutrients you gave. That cause problems.

Weezard
01-25-2011, 12:02 AM
your right,BUT heres a wee BUT..there before christmas 1 of my mates run a wee test.ok..
he bought 2 small greenhouses what he used in his basement.2 same seeds(some autoflowering lowrider hybrid ,36 days from seed to bud)
and he got better result with 4,5 than 5,8.ok like you know im no expert but am i right if im sayng that it depends of the strain as well?and all the equipment what he used was ecxacly the same,same temp,same SOD,everithing(only reason why he did that ws cos he had a argument same way over soil PH levels.

Mahalo! Dexter

I love conflicting info.
Always willing to un-learn questionable "facts".

Even though I have killed plants with consistently low, and high, PH by accident. (Well, sloppiness, really.:o)

I'm always willing to view exceptions.

I am more interested in first hand experience, of course.:)
Are you willing to try to repeat his side by side test and post the results?
If there's truth to this, it would be a great service.
If your results are positive, I'll try to duplicate them.:cool:

Aloha,

Weeze

Dexter007
01-25-2011, 12:05 AM
[quote=tevfik]I read somewhere, these plants can survive in very wide range of PH. They just can't absorb nutrients you gave. That cause problems.[/QUO

ok,i gonna make some research bout that tomara and i gonna compare few lowrider hybrids with some other strains and see what can i find..its just that me and all his mates were very supprised that you got better yield and healtyer plants in a bad soil than good soil in same condission:jointsmile:

BUDEZZ
01-25-2011, 12:13 AM
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Weezard
01-25-2011, 12:15 AM
My plants are yellow on the tip's ! so is my ph to low ?? ...

Without a picture, I'd guess too high.
Wanna know for sure?

Water to run-off.
Save some of the run-off.
Test the PH of it.
Also test the water going in.
Post the readings here and Rusty Trichome will give you a better diagnosis.;)

I advise reading everything here while you wait.:smokin:

@ Rusty.
Always happy to volunteer your efforts.:jointsmile:
Can ya give our Northern neighbor a hand?

Aloha,
The great and benevolent 'zard!

(pay no attention to da Gecko behine da curtain) :D

BUDEZZ
01-25-2011, 12:40 AM
Without a picture, I'd guess too high.
Wanna know for sure?

Water to run-off.
Save some of the run-off.
Test the PH of it.
Also test the water going in.
Post the readings here and Rusty Trichome will give you a better diagnosis.;)

I advise reading everything here while you wait.:smokin:

@ Rusty.
Always happy to volunteer your efforts.:jointsmile:
Can ya give our Northern neighbor a hand?

Aloha,
The great and benevolent 'zard!

(pay no attention to da Gecko behine da curtain) :D
they are all like this and look very yellow through the middle of the leaves too!!... ph to low or high you think ??...

Weezard
01-25-2011, 01:27 AM
they are all like this and look very yellow through the middle of the leaves too!!... ph to low or high you think ??...

I honestly can't see squat in that crappy photo.
(I'm very old)

And it is far from a "simple" question.:(
IF, you have a problem, (some yellowing is normal at first as the cutting raid the ran leaf until the roots catch up with the amount of light provided), it could be many un-PH related causes.

All kine bugs ride in on "clones".
Could have root aphids, spider mites, virii, bad kine nematodes, etc.
So, how's this.
If you want to know what your PH is, measure it!

Then, ask if its high or low.
No, wait, you will already know.:)

Wanna have all your questions answered?
Read the archives here and use the search engine.
Everything you need to know it right there for the reading.
That's prolly the best advice you are going to get here.

Aloha and good luck,
Weezard

BUDEZZ
01-25-2011, 01:32 AM
I honestly can't see squat in that crappy photo.
(I'm very old)

And it is far from a "simple" question.:(
IF, you have a problem, (some yellowing is normal at first as the cutting raid the ran leaf until the roots catch up with the amount of light provided), it could be many un-PH related causes.

All kine bugs ride in on "clones".
Could have root aphids, spider mites, virii, bad kine nematodes, etc.
So, how's this.
If you want to know what your PH is, measure it!

Then, ask if its high or low.
No, wait, you will already know.:)

Wanna have all your questions answered?
Read the archives here and use the search engine.
Everything you need to know it right there for the reading.
That's prolly the best advice you are going to get here.

Aloha and good luck,
Weezard


my ph is roughly 6.5 but ya can never tell with these colour match testers ,. neeed to invest in a digital one me thinks !!

Weezard
01-25-2011, 01:41 AM
And quite accurate when properly calibrated.:cool:


my ph is roughly 6.5 but ya can never tell with these colour match testers ,. neeed to invest in a digital one me thinks !!

Then it's jus' fine!:thumbsup:

I see you have Rusty T. on the other thread.:)

You are in good hands now.
Every little t'ing gonna be alright.

L8r,
W.

BUDEZZ
01-25-2011, 01:48 AM
Trying to take in as much info as i can, so sorry for some stupid questions , but when you know nothink ( me ) every thing helps ,.

cheers pal l8r's