Steve Sarich, Medical Marijuana's Bad Boy, Gives the Finger to Sensible Washington

[jamessr]

Steve Sarich, Medical Marijuana's Bad Boy, Gives the Finger to Sensible Washington


​As we noted in our cover story last year, medical-marijuana entrepreneur Steve Sarich likes to stir up trouble. And he seems to get a particular kick out of giving the metaphorical finger to pot activists who get on his bad side. That's exactly what he's done to Sensible Washington, the group that ran last year's pot legalization initiative.

As he gleefully told Seattle Weekly yesterday, Sarich (pictured at right) has registered himself as the owner of Sensible Washington with the Secretary of State. (The proof is on the office's website.)

Sarich has been busy since the Weekly wrote about him last May, shortly after a shoot-out at the Kirkland home where he ran a dispensary that sold pot to numerous patients. He moved to North Bend, opened a new dispensary in SoDo (called Access 4 Washington). and established offices in Montlake Terrace for a business he runs providing doctor's authorizations for pot.

​He has not, however, affiliated himself with Sensible Washington other than through the Secretary of State filing. He and the real head of Sensible Washington, Seattle attorney Douglas Hiatt (pictured at left), have kept an arm's-length distance from each other, each professing different philosophies toward the pot industry. Hiatt talks up the nonprofit model, which Sarich dismissed as a sham. And the brash entrepreneur isn't enthusiastic about Sensible Washington's crusade to legalize marijuana as a whole, not just for medical purposes. "That's not my issue," he says.

Sarich claims he carried out his Secretary of State stunt to make a point. Sensible Washington is done with last year's initiative, Sarich notes, yet the organization has continued to raise money. "Where is the money going?" he asks, suggesting that something nefarious might be afoot if the organization hasn't bothered to register with the Secretary of State.

Hiatt concedes that the group has continued to raise money. He says that's because it plans to file a new pot-legalization initiative next week.

He adds that Sensible Washington is registered with the IRS and the state Public Disclosure Commission, if not with the Secretary of State (Sarich's filing aside). "We have the common law trademark. If he wants to fight about it in court, we'll fight about it."

But Hiatt himself does not seem so inclined, portraying registration with the Secretary of State as meaningless--unlike another stunt foisted upon him last year, when someone laid claim to the attorney's website.

In other words, as Ben Livingston of the Cannabis Defense Coalition says, Sarich's shenanigan "seems like more of a funny '**** you' than anything else."

[gypski]

The cat is finally out of the bag. Just the type of bullshit we DON"T need. games, games, and more games. Putting it bluntly, one giant cluster fuck. Me, me, me, mine first and fuck everybody else. :D

[jamessr]

The cat is finally out of the bag. Just the type of bullshit we DON"T need. games, games, and more games. Putting it bluntly, one giant cluster fuck. Me, me, me, mine first and fuck everybody else. :D

Steve is pointing out that hiatt is involved in some funny money business...I think he should show these guys are just like the shits they are...

I have documents from the bar association from a complaint I filed on Steinborn/ hiatt and let me tell you...this guy is not who we the public thinks he is...he works with our court system to help fry patients in court...he tried to do it to all orvald patients from what he filed in that record with the wa. bar association.

Although I don't agree with all the games, some good info. comes out of the playing...

[killerweed420]

Still have yet to see anything unethical that Doug has done. All the times I've been around him I've never seen anything that would lead me to believe he's screwing people.
Sarich has a valid point. Non profits are a joke, someone always makes money in a non profit and some times they make a lot. I don't see why there should be any requirement that dispensaries should be forced to be non profits, pharmacies aren't. And of course Steve is getting pretty rich off of this movement but thats just the kind of guy he's always been.

[jamessr]

Still have yet to see anything unethical that Doug has done. All the times I've been around him I've never seen anything that would lead me to believe he's screwing people.
Sarich has a valid point. Non profits are a joke, someone always makes money in a non profit and some times they make a lot. I don't see why there should be any requirement that dispensaries should be forced to be non profits, pharmacies aren't. And of course Steve is getting pretty rich off of this movement but thats just the kind of guy he's always been.

One has to look in the correct place to see what he has done..and on the internet is not the place to be looking..as it won't be there...nor will you find it looking at the cases he has done, unless you know exactly what your looking for specifically...and one must have some knowledge others don't..

Try looking in the bar complaint files in which either a complaint was filed against him or someone he represented in the bar complaint...that's where you will find it. straka v. steinborn is a good one to start with..lol.

[massenberg420]

Steve Sarich, Medical Marijuana's Bad Boy, Gives the Finger to Sensible Washington


​As we noted in our cover story last year, medical-marijuana entrepreneur Steve Sarich likes to stir up trouble. And he seems to get a particular kick out of giving the metaphorical finger to pot activists who get on his bad side. That's exactly what he's done to Sensible Washington, the group that ran last year's pot legalization initiative.

As he gleefully told Seattle Weekly yesterday, Sarich (pictured at right) has registered himself as the owner of Sensible Washington with the Secretary of State. (The proof is on the office's website.)

Sarich has been busy since the Weekly wrote about him last May, shortly after a shoot-out at the Kirkland home where he ran a dispensary that sold pot to numerous patients. He moved to North Bend, opened a new dispensary in SoDo (called Access 4 Washington). and established offices in Montlake Terrace for a business he runs providing doctor's authorizations for pot.

​He has not, however, affiliated himself with Sensible Washington other than through the Secretary of State filing. He and the real head of Sensible Washington, Seattle attorney Douglas Hiatt (pictured at left), have kept an arm's-length distance from each other, each professing different philosophies toward the pot industry. Hiatt talks up the nonprofit model, which Sarich dismissed as a sham. And the brash entrepreneur isn't enthusiastic about Sensible Washington's crusade to legalize marijuana as a whole, not just for medical purposes. "That's not my issue," he says.

Sarich claims he carried out his Secretary of State stunt to make a point. Sensible Washington is done with last year's initiative, Sarich notes, yet the organization has continued to raise money. "Where is the money going?" he asks, suggesting that something nefarious might be afoot if the organization hasn't bothered to register with the Secretary of State.

Hiatt concedes that the group has continued to raise money. He says that's because it plans to file a new pot-legalization initiative next week.

He adds that Sensible Washington is registered with the IRS and the state Public Disclosure Commission, if not with the Secretary of State (Sarich's filing aside). "We have the common law trademark. If he wants to fight about it in court, we'll fight about it."

But Hiatt himself does not seem so inclined, portraying registration with the Secretary of State as meaningless--unlike another stunt foisted upon him last year, when someone laid claim to the attorney's website.

In other words, as Ben Livingston of the Cannabis Defense Coalition says, Sarich's shenanigan "seems like more of a funny '**** you' than anything else."

Steve should not be throwing stones, when he is selling meds from Calif. at his store and not helping local growers, and who is he to steel from others when he is making 80,000 plus a month and not paying a dime in tax's.

Everyone here don't worry about Steve, the Law will catch up to him soon.

[MarijuanaMike11]

The cat is finally out of the bag. Just the type of bullshit we DON"T need. games, games, and more games. Putting it bluntly, one giant cluster fuck. Me, me, me, mine first and fuck everybody else. :D


EXACTLY. Agree 100%

MM

[killerweed420]

Just capitalism at work. For some its there god.

[JamesB0ng]

Steve is a RIP OFF and all the funds he collects from poor patients and his scam patient cook outs at his North Bend rented home with his girl friend he used the patients money NOT TO HELP THEIR DEFENSE BUT TO OPEN A LINE OF NUTRIENTS - nice guy huh STAY AWAY FROM CANNACARE OR SENTRY

[killerweed420]

All you have to do is read Steve's biography and its easy to see what he's all about. Its always been about the money and he's done fairly well for himself from time to time. He's just a greedy old drunk who doesn't want to admit he's getting old so he keeps young pussy around all the time. Can't say I blame him but its obviously only the money that keeps these young girls around him.
That was pretty cold.lol

[jamessr]

All you have to do is read Steve's biography and its easy to see what he's all about. Its always been about the money and he's done fairly well for himself from time to time. He's just a greedy old drunk who doesn't want to admit he's getting old so he keeps young pussy around all the time. Can't say I blame him but its obviously only the money that keeps these young girls around him.
That was pretty cold.lol

I must say here.LOL. Old fart KW... EWWWWWW. JK.:D

Cold worst sandwich.. What young girls don't flock... or is that cold kist sandwich ?

21st century terms of art... what ever floats one's boat is open game. Can we revert now please.:D

[jamessr]

Steve is a RIP OFF and all the funds he collects from poor patients and his scam patient cook outs at his North Bend rented home with his girl friend he used the patients money NOT TO HELP THEIR DEFENSE BUT TO OPEN A LINE OF NUTRIENTS - nice guy huh STAY AWAY FROM CANNACARE OR SENTRY

Is this just a FLAME or you got proof of such a thing??:wtf: If you got proof, would be interesting to see since steve claims hempfest guys fondled away the donations from disabled patients on something else besides going to hempfest bills...

I would like to see this if possible.:D

[jamessr]

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Costa Mesa, CA -- October 4, 2010 (GLOBENEWSWIRE) -- LC LUXURIES LIMITED (OTCPK: LLUX) (the â??Companyâ?�) today announced that it has acquired the domain name CannaCare.com and will begin developing CannaCare.com as its nationwide physician marketing engine as it relates to the cannabis industry. Development is underway and the Company anticipates the site operational by the end of the year. Bonni Goldstein, MD, a board member for LC Luxuries Limited, will be materially involved with the content and direction of CannaCare.com.

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Jim Pakulis, President of the Company concurs: â??CannaCare.com is a significant piece of our cannabis internet vertical. We are excited to have the opportunity to build a system that is educational for the consumer and beneficial to our shareholders.â?�

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Bad boy steve sarich comes out smelling like the article says it he does...

Domain Site cost: cannacare.com for $5,000 (Sedo, 2010-09-29)

[jamessr]

February 18, 2011 6:26 AM ET
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General Cannabis, Inc. provides management, Internet verticals, financial, lobbing, and policy services to the medical marijuana market in the United States. The company offers merchant services, including Internet processing to the cannabis industry. It also focuses on managing medical clinics for the diagnosis and treatment of patients; operating CannaCare.com, which would provide resources for medical cannabis; offering business management solutions comprising appointment setting, marketing management, staffing, accounting, and human resources to physicians; and providing solutions and management services to dispensaries, as well as focuses on operating , a cannabis Internet vertical and Website. The company was formerly known as LC Luxuries Ltd. and changed its name to General Cannabis, Inc. on November 16, 2010. General Cannabis, Inc. was founded in 2003 and is headquartered in Newport Beach, California.
Detailed Description

2183 Fairview Road

Suite 101

Costa Mesa, CA 92627

United States

Founded in 2003

Phone:

888-693-5219

General Cannabis is a rapidly growing, technology driven company that is defining the multi-billion dollar cannabis industry (http://www.generalcannabis.com)
Welcome to General Cannabis, Inc.

General Cannabis is a rapidly growing, technology driven company that is defining the multi-billion dollar cannabis industry. The wholly owned subsidiaries of General Cannabis include Media, Inc., General Health Solutions, Inc., General Merchant Solutions, Inc. and US Cannabis, Inc. Each subsidiary plays a vital role in the ongoing success of General Cannabis and the industry itself.

General Cannabis explores opportunities of vertical integration within and outside of the cannabis market through the five core industry sectors identified as probable high growth areas including media, technology, merchant services, medical and management. We invite you to explore our website and discover why General Cannabis intends to be the responsible leader in the cannabis industry.




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[jamessr]

Hiatt concedes that the group has continued to raise money. He says that's because it plans to file a new pot-legalization initiative next week.

He adds that Sensible Washington is registered with the IRS and the state Public Disclosure Commission, if not with the Secretary of State (Sarich's filing aside). "We have the common law trademark. If he wants to fight about it in court, we'll fight about it."

But Hiatt himself does not seem so inclined, portraying registration with the Secretary of State as meaningless--unlike another stunt foisted upon him last year, when someone laid claim to the attorney's website.

In other words, as Ben Livingston of the Cannabis Defense Coalition says, Sarich's shenanigan "seems like more of a funny '**** you' than anything else."

O.K.... WTF? Is Hiatt not concerned because steve actually does own the movement in Wa. state.. I think i believe Hiatt has mislead someone here.. Cause it sure don't look like steve lied.. with the above article... seems someone claimed check mate !!:D

[adamsss]

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The presence of all essential nutrient elements in perfect balance will create top results! .feminized seeds (http://www.ministryofcannabis.com/feminized-cannabis-seeds.html)

[jamessr]

Make your own grow and flowering plant fertilizer to grow the largest healthiest plants. Only two sachets needed! One sachet containing grow powder and the second containing flower powder. Each sachet cointains enough plant nutrient powder to make 100 Liter or 26.5 gallons of liquid plant food. Offcourse you do not have to make the 100 Liter or 26.5 gallons at once but just make the amount of Liters/gallons you need. Wich results in giving your plants fresh made fertilizer daily!
The presence of all essential nutrient elements in perfect balance will create top results! .feminized seeds (http://www.ministryofcannabis.com/feminized-cannabis-seeds.html)

O.K. seems adam here wants in the big business game... what does the sss stand for ??

[time4me]

Okay, a couple of things here....

Cannacare.com is not taken(well maybe it is now, but it wasn't last week). Sarich's website is cannacare.org


The company you are looking at is based in California, not Washington. All Sarich's stuff is in Washington AFAIK.

I own stock in one of those companies, so what? I think I might have made a great investment in a penny stock, WOOHOO!

I think the sss in Adamsss name is for the sound a snake makes when it is signalling danger, lol.


February 18, 2011 6:26 AM ET
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Company Overview

General Cannabis, Inc. provides management, Internet verticals, financial, lobbing, and policy services to the medical marijuana market in the United States. The company offers merchant services, including Internet processing to the cannabis industry. It also focuses on managing medical clinics for the diagnosis and treatment of patients; operating CannaCare.com, which would provide resources for medical cannabis; offering business management solutions comprising appointment setting, marketing management, staffing, accounting, and human resources to physicians; and providing solutions and management services to dispensaries, as well as focuses on operating , a cannabis Internet v...

General Cannabis, Inc. provides management, Internet verticals, financial, lobbing, and policy services to the medical marijuana market in the United States. The company offers merchant services, including Internet processing to the cannabis industry. It also focuses on managing medical clinics for the diagnosis and treatment of patients; operating CannaCare.com, which would provide resources for medical cannabis; offering business management solutions comprising appointment setting, marketing management, staffing, accounting, and human resources to physicians; and providing solutions and management services to dispensaries, as well as focuses on operating , a cannabis Internet vertical and Website. The company was formerly known as LC Luxuries Ltd. and changed its name to General Cannabis, Inc. on November 16, 2010. General Cannabis, Inc. was founded in 2003 and is headquartered in Newport Beach, California.
Detailed Description

2183 Fairview Road

Suite 101

Costa Mesa, CA 92627

United States

Founded in 2003

Phone:

888-693-5219

General Cannabis is a rapidly growing, technology driven company that is defining the multi-billion dollar cannabis industry (http://www.generalcannabis.com)
Welcome to General Cannabis, Inc.

General Cannabis is a rapidly growing, technology driven company that is defining the multi-billion dollar cannabis industry. The wholly owned subsidiaries of General Cannabis include Media, Inc., General Health Solutions, Inc., General Merchant Solutions, Inc. and US Cannabis, Inc. Each subsidiary plays a vital role in the ongoing success of General Cannabis and the industry itself.

General Cannabis explores opportunities of vertical integration within and outside of the cannabis market through the five core industry sectors identified as probable high growth areas including media, technology, merchant services, medical and management. We invite you to explore our website and discover why General Cannabis intends to be the responsible leader in the cannabis industry.




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[killerweed420]

Hiatt concedes that the group has continued to raise money. He says that's because it plans to file a new pot-legalization initiative next week.

He adds that Sensible Washington is registered with the IRS and the state Public Disclosure Commission, if not with the Secretary of State (Sarich's filing aside). "We have the common law trademark. If he wants to fight about it in court, we'll fight about it."

But Hiatt himself does not seem so inclined, portraying registration with the Secretary of State as meaningless--unlike another stunt foisted upon him last year, when someone laid claim to the attorney's website.

In other words, as Ben Livingston of the Cannabis Defense Coalition says, Sarich's shenanigan "seems like more of a funny '**** you' than anything else."

O.K.... WTF? Is Hiatt not concerned because steve actually does own the movement in Wa. state.. I think i believe Hiatt has mislead someone here.. Cause it sure don't look like steve lied.. with the above article... seems someone claimed check mate !!:D
I think Hiatt just isn't interested in entering into the Peyton Place world of Steve Sarich. And I'm sure Steve has a lot more money than Doug does. He has trouble getting any of the big money from NORML or some of the other supposedly MMJ movement organizations because he isn't interested in drafting up intiatives that allow these same outfits to capitalize on the market. He just wants it made legal so we can end the stupidity.

[gypski]

Like many others in the community Doug Hiatt has his detractors and supporters. I tend to see overall holistically, he's got the right think in his heart and mind. And he just may not agree with someone else's interpretation of the laws. :confused:

Me I've always gone by and stood by the laws were unconstitutional in the first place, regardless of what a court, any court may say. Frankly, that's my right to be civilly disobedient, even if the consequence may result in incarceration or worse. And, I've taken nearly all they have dished out so far. Wore me down, but I'm still standing the same line!!! :D


I think Hiatt just isn't interested in entering into the Peyton Place world of Steve Sarich. And I'm sure Steve has a lot more money than Doug does. He has trouble getting any of the big money from NORML or some of the other supposedly MMJ movement organizations because he isn't interested in drafting up intiatives that allow these same outfits to capitalize on the market. He just wants it made legal so we can end the stupidity.

[jamessr]

Like many others in the community Doug Hiatt has his detractors and supporters. I tend to see overall holistically, he's got the right think in his heart and mind. And he just may not agree with someone else's interpretation of the laws. :confused:

Me I've always gone by and stood by the laws were unconstitutional in the first place, regardless of what a court, any court may say. Frankly, that's my right to be civilly disobedient, even if the consequence may result in incarceration or worse. And, I've taken nearly all they have dished out so far. Wore me down, but I'm still standing the same line!!! :D

I guess the interpretation of our mmj laws are we are criminals because we use an authorized legislated substance...

Our AFF. DEF. is the same as an AFF. DEF. of assaulting another human being... VIOLENCE. AT NO POINT IN ANY TIME IS IT AUTHORIZED TO ASSAULT ANY HUMAN BEING...WITH VIOLENCE.

This means that no-patient is allowed to enter the USE of their medicine until a finder of fact allows you to use this substance...

This is not our law we voted in... this is a law these CLUB members came up with by design to cheat the public out of honest services.. BOTTOM LINE HERE GUY !!!

Our mmj law is actually just like the trespass statute AFF. DEF. in reality... either you have permission or you don't to be at a place you are...i.e. WHO THE HELL AUTHORIZES YOUR USE ??? CERTAINLY NO FINDER OF FACT SIGNED YOUR AUTHORIZATION... THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO ALLOW YOU TO USE... THEY ARE NOT LICENSED UNDER HEALTHCARE LAWS TO DO SO...

GET IT YET??

[jamessr]

I think Hiatt just isn't interested in entering into the Peyton Place world of Steve Sarich. And I'm sure Steve has a lot more money than Doug does. He has trouble getting any of the big money from NORML or some of the other supposedly MMJ movement organizations because he isn't interested in drafting up intiatives that allow these same outfits to capitalize on the market. He just wants it made legal so we can end the stupidity.

the top pot lawyer system in wa. state can't manage to change anything?? Conflicts of interests maybe the cause here... If any lawyer in wa. manages to change anything... they lose money and go out of business in the # 1 cash crop business in the U.S...

In other words, Hiatt is in on it so deep, he don't know what to say...

Steve has just seemed to bone these guys and took over...

[jamessr]

Okay, a couple of things here....

Cannacare.com is not taken(well maybe it is now, but it wasn't last week). Sarich's website is cannacare.org


The company you are looking at is based in California, not Washington. All Sarich's stuff is in Washington AFAIK.

I own stock in one of those companies, so what? I think I might have made a great investment in a penny stock, WOOHOO!

I think the sss in Adamsss name is for the sound a snake makes when it is signalling danger, lol.

Nope my dear, that is adam assenberg stating steve still sucks...hence, look above at massenberg420 comment.. this is adam from over in whitnam co.

[time4me]

Why even waste your time on this subject, James? I know you can direct your energy to positive projects when you really want to. Please try. No one at SW really seems concerned, I know I'm not. We really don't need to fuss with silliness, do we?
:hippy:

[adamsss]

Hey it's not a buissness....it's some name in short type...that's personal...

[gypski]

Pot dealers attract what you speak of if your a player!!! The Washington Cannabis Community's own Hugh Hefner impersonator!! :lol5:


All you have to do is read Steve's biography and its easy to see what he's all about. Its always been about the money and he's done fairly well for himself from time to time. He's just a greedy old drunk who doesn't want to admit he's getting old so he keeps young pussy around all the time. Can't say I blame him but its obviously only the money that keeps these young girls around him.
That was pretty cold.lol

[ionmagic]

love him or not, steve sarach has been the face of WA MMJ enterprise and evolution for the last few years, as mmj has come out of the closet and unsecreted; and for that we owe him a debt of gratitude. truth be told, people have always been attracted to unconventional, daring ways...like bikers, wild west outlaws, playboys, renegades. It gives us some sense of possibility, like we could take risks too. Those persona are not what i'd choose for my life, so i'm happy steve showed up with his black leather finger poking bong sucking way and said......"STOP! ....I for one am poking back."
I'd have to suspect the motivations of anyone who calls him spiteful names.
love,
ion :hippy:

[killerweed420]

I guess I'll never be a player, just old.lol

[gypski]

I don't think playboy impersonator is spiteful. I think it just joking because I have no issue with what he did or didn't do. No smear intended. Matter of fact, he's on my friends list. :cool:


love him or not, steve sarach has been the face of WA MMJ enterprise and evolution for the last few years, as mmj has come out of the closet and unsecreted; and for that we owe him a debt of gratitude. truth be told, people have always been attracted to unconventional, daring ways...like bikers, wild west outlaws, playboys, renegades. It gives us some sense of possibility, like we could take risks too. Those persona are not what i'd choose for my life, so i'm happy steve showed up with his black leather finger poking bong sucking way and said......"STOP! ....I for one am poking back."
I'd have to suspect the motivations of anyone who calls him spiteful names.
love,
ion :hippy:

[gypski]

To be clear, so this doesn't get tangleld up in the other bullshit, it was a caricature. Just like a caricature I had drawn of me for friends when I was in Poland. He does or did take photos of younger women....:lol5:


I don't think playboy impersonator is spiteful. I think it just joking because I have no issue with what he did or didn't do. No smear intended. Matter of fact, he's on my friends list. :cool:

[killerweed420]

To be clear, so this doesn't get tangleld up in the other bullshit, it was a caricature. Just like a caricature I had drawn of me for friends when I was in Poland. He does or did take photos of younger women....:lol5:

He still takes pictures, which I don't have a problem with. I think he even has a bit of talent in this. Steve is just practicing capitalism and he's perfectly able to do that. Its ingrained into American society. You just have to watch people like this because they'll try to cross the line and say they're being benevolent in some way, which isn't true, just to increase there wealth.
Legalize MJ and you put these kind of people out of business or at least greatly decrease there profit margin.

[gypski]

I have to be brutally honest, I look!!! :lol5: But, I was checking out their forum, and one of the big debates is renewals. Steve wants yearly renewal, and an initiative is going to knock them out of the box in that respect. C'est la vie! :cool:


He still takes pictures, which I don't have a problem with. I think he even has a bit of talent in this. Steve is just practicing capitalism and he's perfectly able to do that. Its ingrained into American society. You just have to watch people like this because they'll try to cross the line and say they're being benevolent in some way, which isn't true, just to increase there wealth.
Legalize MJ and you put these kind of people out of business or at least greatly decrease there profit margin.

[killerweed420]

I have to be brutally honest, I look!!! :lol5: But, I was checking out their forum, and one of the big debates is renewals. Steve wants yearly renewal, and an initiative is going to knock them out of the box in that respect. C'est la vie! :cool:
I would expect that yearly renewals will be something our legislature tries to push too. Its a great revenue generator except for the people needing the medicine, Its capitalism. Everything is always lowered to the lowest common denominator when you follow capitalism to its logical conclusion. Cheapest materials, with the cheapest labor costs, with the least taxation and regulation and the most possibility for profit. Its what fuels worldwide drug sales. They change locations as terms become more profitable in other countries.

[JamesB0ng]

If it looks like shit, smells like shit most likely it's shit = steve sarach

He might have been the leader in the fight for med patients rights when he was younger and still does help med patients but tell me anyone were the monies he has that he starts up these companies with for his botanical nutes product line and how he gets all the money to put on these med patient bbq's and parties is from poor med patients donations and autho fee's.

I can bet anyone he has $0 ZERO money for any med patients defense fund and always seems to act like he is the king and kind leader of their Nazi Regime run web site.

For Steve sarach bottom line it's all about the green, benjimans period and if anyone is that naive to believe his drive is to help med patients and doesn't put the Mighty $$ first must have a empty head with NO BRAIN.

[LT1RX7Drifter]

i too find that steve is a crook with a trigger happy finger, truth be told the kids that broke in were only trying to recoop what was owed to them for labor performed in caring for steve's grow, that alone tells you he is about the money, not paying people that he hired to harvest or care for his grows, lol, i have actually turned people away from him just to hit him were it hurts most, his wallet

[david98686]

I don't care about Steve personally but SSB 5073 requires our patient authorizations to be signed by a doctor with whom we have a 'relationship'.
No corporate or insurance doctor will ever sign so that means that 'relationship will cost us each what, $500 ormore for a new treating physician yearly?

[hiamps]

Get yourself a good Naturepath, mine isn't very expensive and he has helped with lots of things. Mostly by getting me to change my diet.

[killerweed420]

I don't care about Steve personally but SSB 5073 requires our patient authorizations to be signed by a doctor with whom we have a 'relationship'.
No corporate or insurance doctor will ever sign so that means that 'relationship will cost us each what, $500 ormore for a new treating physician yearly?

True. All this bill has done is to make it more expensive for patients to get there meds. Its all about generating revenue now.

[david98686]

True. All this bill has done is to make it more expensive for patients to get there meds. Its all about generating revenue now.


Thanks for keeping it to the real problem, we'll be ok in the end if patients complain enough to 'their' legislators.. :)

[time4me]

We will all be okay when cannabis is legal! :hippy:

[mugenbao]

Steve is pointing out that hiatt is involved in some funny money business
Well hell, so is Sarich, but you know damned well that if anyone played those sorts of games with him that he'd go batshit crazy on them. Just follow his forums for a week or two, you'll see what I mean.