lights what i need.couldnt figure that out

[Dexter007]

:( ok heres the thing..i moved some wardrobes around in my living room and i end up getting a space in a corner what is W4FTxL7FTxH7FT........
its behind the wardrobes and i built and plastered the wall top of the wardrobes...so i have secret door..i have do walk throw the wardrobe XD(i post some pics soon when everithing is finised..
but ok heres my question...
i wanna grow 4 plants(flower),but i dont know what lightning would i need..i wanna use CFL.. i did a lot of reading here but im geting different answers from everiwhere.some are sayng 1500lumens per square feet some 6000.
(i tought that 10000per plant,but im no expert like yous can see)
so plz help i would really appricate that...

[tevfik]

Read this sticky http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-lighting/140735-answers-about-cfl-hps-how-much-light.html for your needs.



2000 lumens sq. ft./21500 lumens sq. m. = Absolute minimum for growth. You won't get much from this, especially after the plant has grown a bit. Not really enough to flower well.

3000 lumens sq. ft./32250 lumens sq. m. = Pretty Good growth. Enough light for the entire light cycle, although your yields may be lower.
4000 lumens sq. ft./43000 lumens sq. m. = Very good growth. Once you pass around 3500, growth rate and ability goes up fast.

Over 5000 lumens sq. ft./53750 lumens sq. m. = Optimal growth. Dense growth in all stages.


After I done lots of reading on CFL lighting, I ended up with PL-L. That's the most effective CFL I've ever seen. You can consider T5 ligthing as well. You have good space to use long tubes.

Check out CFL and Tube grows and compare it yourself.

[Dexter007]

Read this sticky http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-lighting/140735-answers-about-cfl-hps-how-much-light.html for your needs.



After I done lots of reading on CFL lighting, I ended up with PL-L. That's the most effective CFL I've ever seen. You can consider T5 ligthing as well. You have good space to use long tubes.

Check out CFL and Tube grows and compare it yourself.
thanx a lot man..

so if i would use 2 200w cfl 2700k ,12,800 lumens and 4 cfl 20w 2700k 1200 lumens for flowering i would be allright?

[tevfik]

thanx a lot man..

so if i would use 2 200w cfl 2700k ,12,800 lumens and 4 cfl 20w 2700k 1200 lumens for flowering i would be allright?

You need two or three times more than that for 28 square foot area.

Compare this:
200W CFL 12800lm - 160W T5 12300lm (2x80w)
40W CFL 2400lm (2x20W) - 39W T5 3100lm

[Dexter007]

You need two or three times more than that for 28 square foot area.

Compare this:
200W CFL 12800lm - 160W T5 12300lm (2x80w)
40W CFL 2400lm (2x20W) - 39W T5 3100lm

man your 100% right,now ill get why people are using T5.i allways tought that its a old stuff and that CFL is better..
and bout the other post in other thread(same question)i didnt realise when adding posts that you can go in different categoris like indoor lightning and all thta..thats why i posted everithing under basic growing..

[tevfik]

T8 or T12 are older than T5. They are not much effective as T5. But when you're choosing, look for High Output T5. standart T5 don't have that much lumen.
You can fit them in length to your grow-room, or you can use PL-L as well in width. They are more compact in length and near same lumen output.
If you use only 2x250w CFL you got 2 sources for light. Plants will try to reach those sources. If you spread the light equally, All plants will share same light output, they'll be more happy.
Here I wrote a while ago about: http://boards.cannabis.com/closet-cabinet-growing/193378-cfl-wattage.html#post2167239

And, it doesn't really matter actually, you can post here or there. Better do in right room and ask one time. When you need more or different answers to same question, you can just come to your thread and send another post to keep it up ;)

[Dexter007]

thats plenty of good information...
BUT where can i buy these PL-L online?last 3 hours been looking for them non stop but they all work in 110v im living in IRL so i need 220v...
i would never belive that geting lights can be so hard:mad:..ok now im going do work ill finish nine and start looking again..but cheers mate..at least now i understand what im looking for and what i need to check..
(i can understand your posts,very easy to read them.frendly for nuubs like me):D:D:D

[tevfik]

IRL? Ireland? http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-lighting/193934-pll-t5-ireland.html

The best way is not to go online. Look around light shops. They sell fixtures and bulbs. Even if they have not in stock they must have some catalogs, yo can choose and order. I recently went to a shop to buy bulbs and they had a fixture in the shop with 2x36W bulb on it and ballast. Ready to work just $50. This is a really good price for a ready fixture.

Other choice is Ebay, Amazon or some similar websites. You can find something there as well. I bought my ballasts from UK with very good price. Online abroad good only for parts. Fixture itself is heavy thing and will cost $50-100 shipping and may have some taxes on customs if you buy more than one or like high price in total.


(i can understand your posts,very easy to read them.frendly for nuubs like me):D:D:D
This is most probably because English isn't my first language either :) Similar frequencies.

[Dexter007]

ok,is there any chance that you can recommend me some lights?what would be enough for 4 plants?..
cos i checked here 2 ireland biggest hardware shops and all they have is 36v t5 max,nothing else and they dont have decent reflectors either.:mad::mad:

[tevfik]

Don't go hardware shops. Go to electric shops like this one: Excel Lighting - Surface Fluorescent Lighting (http://www.excelelectric.ie/lighting_web/Surface.asp)

[Dexter007]

Don't go hardware shops. Go to electric shops like this one: Excel Lighting - Surface Fluorescent Lighting (http://www.excelelectric.ie/lighting_web/Surface.asp)

cheers man but i allready figured out what i gonna use.:)
i have 10 20v CFL for vegging and ill get 400v SOD in weeks time.that should br enough:jointsmile: