Just a hypothetical question

[StonedJustice]

Ok, so my first grow, which I decided to go hydro on is coming along nicely... but after evaluating things, I want a much bigger yield than I believe I will ever get growing like this. I also find hydro to be expensive, and time consuming, and so I think I'm going to switch to soil. currently I'm running a closet setup under Fluorescents, which I know is not going to be enough light for major yield, but for a first go round I'm ok for now.

So here is the deal... I'm looking to begin growing 36 pounds per year, whether that be 3 harvests of 12 pounds, or 2 harvests of 18 dosen't really matter at this point, I'm just looking for a few answers, and hopefully a little insight. My thought was that I'd invest in the 4ft x 8ft x 6.5ft grow tents, and slap a 1000 watt switchable on each side. that would make 1000 watts to each 4x4 area. I was thinking I'd put 9 plants (clones) in 5 gal nursery pots under each light. I am looking to use only foxfarm soil and nutrients, and black strap molasses during flowering. I know already there are a lot of factors to figure into yield... but my question is, under optimal conditions
(plants vegged to 24" then switched to flower, 77 degrees constant, 70% humidity, 5.5-5.8 ph.) with no co2 should I be able to easily yield 3 oz. dried from each plant, which would make a grand total of 3 lbs, 6 oz. each tent with this setup?

I have looked at sog... but once again the startup cost of everything hydro is more than I am willing to part with, and also it would require me to keep a lot of mothers around in order to get enough clones, which at this point I would not be capable of doing. I have two rooms, in which I could fit 3 of the tents each... 6 tents total, and If I got 3 lbs. per tent, that's 21.6 lbs. which would make it a 2 time a year harvest, and would allow me to sell 18, and keep a 3.6 for the head.

Keep in mind I have not even harvested my first grow yet, so I'm like super noob... I know I've been asking a lot of questions, but I'm really looking to jump in head first and get this thing up and running. So any and all input is majorly appreciated.:thumbsup:

[keylime]

Well I hate to disappoint you.
There is no way you are going to accomplish that with what you want to do. How high is your ceiling? You want to start flowering at 24". To do that Your plants will attain 6ft when done. Add to that 1ft for the bucket, now you've got the tops at 7ft above the ground. With a 1000w light you will need at least 12 to 18 inches between the bottom of the light and the tops of your bud. Now we are at 8'6", give another foot for the light and you are at 9 to 10 ft from floor to ceiling.
By going from hydroponics to soil, you are lengthening the flowering time by probably a week or more. I have grown for quite a few years, and am friends with someone that has a large grow. He says he's happy to average 1 lb per 1000W light, and so am I. My friend has grown 25+ yrs, and runs a lot of lights..... and grows hydroponically. If say you are flowering for 8 weeks ortwo months you will need 6 1000W lights to come up with 6 lbs every other month. That would give you 36 lbs a year.
Don't forget to add lights for the vegging part, you will have to have 50-60 plants ready to go into the flowering every other month. And they will need to be vegging for at least a month when they might be 12 or 15 inches high.
Have you ever harvested 6 lbs? Do you have any idea how much work that is? It would take me (alone) a week to do at 8 hrs a day. It would take another 2 or 3 days to turn them over, that is, clean the buckets out and put the fresh plants in. Don't forget room for clones you will need a lot. It will be a full time job.
Don't forget the spider mites, and powdery mildew while you are counting your money!

keylime

[seventhchild]

So here is the deal... I'm looking to begin growing 36 pounds per year,......... would allow me to sell 18, and keep a 3.6 for the head.

this site is for medical users and growers......as a cash cropper you should post ur FOR PROFIT questions at a different website ...

[StonedJustice]

I'm no cash cropper, let alone a drug dealer... I never said who I'd be selling it to, which happens to be a medical laboratory from which marrinol is made. While it is not legal yet in VA to prescribe cannabis for smoking, marrinol, which is a pill derived from the THC in cannabis, is frequently prescribed, which is why I need to grow such large crops. I will not be selling to anyone other than the lab, as that is the stipulation of the legal contract which I have with them, and probably should not even keep a head stash, but if I'm growing might as well be smoking. Sorry I left all that out, and that you guys thought cash cropping was my goal.

[Weezard]

I'm no cash cropper, let alone a drug dealer... I never said who I'd be selling it to, which happens to be a medical laboratory from which marrinol is made. While it is not legal yet in VA to prescribe cannabis for smoking, marrinol, which is a pill derived from the THC in cannabis, is frequently prescribed, which is why I need to grow such large crops. I will not be selling to anyone other than the lab, as that is the stipulation of the legal contract which I have with them, and probably should not even keep a head stash, but if I'm growing might as well be smoking. Sorry I left all that out, and that you guys thought cash cropping was my goal.

:wtf:
I call bullshit!

Effective bullshit requires more research.

Marinol1 (dronabinol) is the only US FDA-approved synthetic cannabinoid.

Always synthesized, never extracted.
"Stereospecific syntheses of THC and its analogs follow a general scheme, and this has been applied to the production of AJA (Scheme 1 (http://www.aapsj.org/view.asp?art=aapsj070115#F3)). In this procedure an alkylated resorcinol is condensed with an appropriate, chirally pure, terpene such as (+)-p-mentha-2,8-diene-1-ol (2), cis-chrysanthenol (5), cis-verbinol (6), or (+)-trans-2-carene oxide (7). The substituted resorcinol portion of the molecule is made by the reaction of 1,6-dimethoxyphenol with 1,1-dimethylheptanol in the presence of methane sulfonic acid. The product is then esterified with diethyl phosphite and triethylamine with cooling to yield the diethyl phosphate derivative. Reduction with lithium in liquid ammonia produces 1-(1′,1′-dimethylheptyl) 3,5-dimethoxybenzene (1) that is used in the next step. This involves a condensation of the p-mentha-2,8-diene-1-ol (2) shown in Scheme 1 (http://www.aapsj.org/view.asp?art=aapsj070115#F3) with dimethylheptyl resorcinol (1) catalyzed by p-toluenesulfonic acid to give the dimethylheptyl analog of Δ8 â??THC. Following conversion of the cannabinoid to the acetate (3), the allylic methyl group is oxidized to an aldehyde using selenium dioxide. Further oxidation to a carboxylic acid is accomplished by the use of sodium chlorite. Finally, free AJA (4) is obtained by saponification of the acetyl group with sodium carbonate in aqueous methanol.
http://www.aapsj.org/articles/aapsj0701/aapsj070115/aapsj070115_figure3.jpg"

Not faulting commercial croppers here.
Somebody has to do it.

And it require knowledge, skills, and stones.:thumbsup:

But, you are asking people to spoon-feed you while they aid and abet a federal felony under false pretenses.

Suggest that you read more, learn more, and in short, do the work yourself!

And, please do it honestly, and elsewhere.

Mahalo and good luck.

Weezard

[GTMan2010]

this post made me laugh and laugh and laugh.

For realz...selling to a research laboratory? you want us to believe that someone who is posting on how to grow36 pound was given a contract to sell to ANY research lab?

preposterous!

SHENANIGANS!!!

I CALL SHENANIGANS!