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camoxnhx
01-07-2011, 01:26 PM
What is your experience level? NOVICE

What type of hydro set-up are you running? DWC

Your Equipment:
A) Type and wattage of lights. 8 26W SOFTWHITE CFLS 208W total
B) Distance from tops? 1 1/2 inches
C) Reflector type? Home Made Reflector from Dryer Duct from HOMEDEPOT

D) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? 26w each, 2700K each, 24/0
E) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? Yes
F) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? no exhaust. 2 cirulation fans.
G) Size of reservoir? none. The DWC bucket is a 7 gallon
H) What medium if applicable. PEARL STONE from MOSSER LEE Homedepot product

Your nutrients and water:
I) If using rockwoll for clones or seedlings, did you rinse the cubes well, with properly ph'd water? YES. Let stand in PH water of 5.5 45 MINUTES
J) Source of water. (tap or filtered) What's it's ph? BRITTA filtered water standing in jugs 2 days before water switch. PH is 6.8
K) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule. VEG:B'CUZZ GROWTH 1.0-0-0.7 NEPTUNES FISH AND KELP: 2-4-1 CAL/MAG Plus. FLOWER: B'CUZZ BLOOM 0-0-0.7 BLOOMBASTIC 0-20-21
L) What is the ec/ppm of your unadjusted tap (or filtered) water? getting a PPM meter sunday or monday
M) What is the ec/ppm of your nutrient solution? BUYING A PPM PEN sunday or monday
N) What is the temperature of your nutrient solution? (reservoir high and low temps) Temp @ 24/0 72.2 F
O) Does your ec/ppm show a rise or fall when you do your daily PPM check? BUYING A PPM PEN SUNDAY OR MONDAY
P) Does the ph fluctuate? no. i have a GENERAL HYDROPONICS PH Kit testing morning and night
Q) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do youspray? (Just after lights come on, just before they go out...) I did once and it burned my leaves from letting the big beads of water sit on the lower leaves in the seedling stage on the PURPLE MAKIDO
R) How often do you replace reservoir water/nutes? What does it look like before changes? (clear, foamy, green, brown...) Every 5 Days

Your growroom:
S) What size of closet, room or hut? Dont know but its big
T) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off? DAY TEMPS: 78.8 @ 31% HUMDITY 24/0 LIGHTING
U) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom? NO
V) Are the roots long and white, or brown and slimy? LONG AND WHITE

Your strain:
W) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?) PURPLE MAKIDO, HOGS BREATH, HAWAIIAN CRACK, AURORA INDICA ALL INDICA DOM
X) From seeds or clones? SEEDS: PURPLE MAKIDO, HOGS BREATH. CLONES: HAWAIIAN CRACK. AURORA INDICA RE-VEGGED
Y) Is this an autoflower strain? NO



I ADDED SOME PICS SO I HOPE THEY HLEP WITH THE WRITTEN

camoxnhx
01-07-2011, 01:32 PM
so i forgot to add that to each gallon i added of water i put 1/2 of what is recommended to get the little ones nice and eased in. on my next water changes im gonna up a little at a time. ALSO IM NEWBIE @ HYDRO BUT NOVICE GROWER IN SOIL

camoxnhx
01-07-2011, 01:48 PM
FORGOT park of question K:

APPLYED ONLY VEG NUTRIENTS ATM

B'CUZZ GROWTH 3/4 teaspoon per gallon
Neptunes FISH AND KELP 1 TBSP Per Gallon
CAL/MAG PLUS 1 TSP per gallon
B'CUZZ BLOOM 3/4 teaspoon Per Gallon
BLOOMBASTIC 1/2 teaspoon Per Gallon

copobo
01-07-2011, 03:28 PM
lockout. get ph in the 5.8-6.2 range. You could flush by running 2 to 4 times the volume of your containers, or start pushing solution that is 5.8 (on the dot! not 5.7)

In veg, that's what I would do. just start using 5.8

EDIT: and remember, old leaves are yesterdays news, they won't lose their spots. keep your eye on new growth.

and yea man, I would not even try to grow w/out a good ph pen. check the solution every day, it drifts!

Stukez
01-07-2011, 03:33 PM
Forget everything ppl say I'll tell u exactly what it is...FOIL!!! get it out of there asap it crinkles and the light bouncing off it causes hot spots on the leaves I know as I made the same mistake a while ago lol common mistake but not to worry get rid of the foil and it shouldn't effect any more of the leaves.....

copobo
01-07-2011, 03:36 PM
do you think? w/cfl's, in the middle of the plant?

new growth on the one looks good. foil would be easy to remove. I wouldn't do anything with the ph till you get that pen as new growth does not look that bad.

Stukez
01-07-2011, 05:22 PM
Definatly foil it's amazing it acts like a looking glass in the sun and bounces the light up and effects the leaves I used it when I first started and got exact same thing happen...amature mistake I hate foil just use something White not matt finish a shiney White finish is alot better !!!

MadSativa
01-08-2011, 08:11 AM
now that looks like a calmag defincincy, we have had alot of people thinking, cal deffiency and this is what I look for in a cal,mag defficinacy. how ever I see your adding cal mag to your nutes, but I also see your adding bloombastic, and a few other things that are for flowering not veg. I think your nutes might be locking out, due to the improper ph and too many addatives. save the bloom addatives for bloom, and when starting on the nutes start slow, at half or even 1/4 strength. eventully if you alow this to keep happening, the imunsystem of the plant will die then black will come in and fungus and desises will kill everything. I see you dont have any enzymes in your nuteints theri, you might want to look into Cannazyme for 9 bucks at BGH, I know it will help get thoughs roots back to par, but it still doesnt take care of the problem so look into the ph and cutting back on the nutes, also the soil you using is not a know soil by most of us or most growers. Soils have problems that can not be seen until your growing so picking a soil is some what important. But you have all the nice nutes no reson you have to stay with soil any way might want to look into coco or hydro, personaly I like coco its like soil and hydro.

another observation, but dosent realy look like it but worth mentioning is do you foiler feed in the day time, it can burn leaves simular to that, however not thinking what is going on here

camoxnhx
01-08-2011, 11:38 AM
now that looks like a calmag defincincy, we have had alot of people thinking, cal deffiency and this is what I look for in a cal,mag defficinacy. how ever I see your adding cal mag to your nutes, but I also see your adding bloombastic, and a few other things that are for flowering not veg. I think your nutes might be locking out, due to the improper ph and too many addatives. save the bloom addatives for bloom, and when starting on the nutes start slow, at half or even 1/4 strength. eventully if you alow this to keep happening, the imunsystem of the plant will die then black will come in and fungus and desises will kill everything. I see you dont have any enzymes in your nuteints theri, you might want to look into Cannazyme for 9 bucks at BGH, I know it will help get thoughs roots back to par, but it still doesnt take care of the problem so look into the ph and cutting back on the nutes, also the soil you using is not a know soil by most of us or most growers. Soils have problems that can not be seen until your growing so picking a soil is some what important. But you have all the nice nutes no reson you have to stay with soil any way might want to look into coco or hydro, personaly I like coco its like soil and hydro.

another observation, but dosent realy look like it but worth mentioning is do you foiler feed in the day time, it can burn leaves simular to that, however not thinking what is going on here

THANKS MAD! i havent applyed flowering nutrients yet to my plants. Later on today im going to the hydro shop to pick up a few items so thats one of the few products that im gonna pick up. If all goes well this this DWC i plan on going full hydro and cutting clippings from the aurora and switching her to hydro. My PH of my water is 6.0 i check it morning and night. I only foliar feed once with plan water when my PURPLE MAKIDO was a seedling and thats what fried the lower leaves. I Covered up the Foil on the bucket and it seems to be working the charm! Any onther suggestions on products i should pick up while im there?

MadSativa
01-08-2011, 11:26 PM
yeah a flushing agent might help as well, might have some salt bulid up in the bucket, flushing agents such as final flush,, floroclean, clearex, they are all good, but they also flush everything out of the soil so you willneed the cal mag, and light nutrients about 4 days to a week after. also what kind of benifical bactira and fungi are you useing, these little guys help roots from desises and also help them to get healthy and stay helthy, AN has some of the best, but if you have a Vermi-T brewer that is good, but if not then roots organics si a product that is about 10 bucks and last a long time, not the best but deffinitly better then nothing, actully is not to bad if you use carbo's to feed them. theri are alot of products to try but mostly it is important to know what they do and why you want them. things to ask or look at are sugars such as bud candy, micro rhizi is importatnt too, ther are alot of products for that too, how ever money is best spent on environment first, so lights fans heaters A/C what ever you see that can improve, then addadtives and nutrients, yuour medium is imortant too, choosing a good medium is a first thing as well.

also just incase foiler feeding should be done at night before the lights come on, or right before the lights go out, and realy foiler feeding is not good you invite pests and desises, realy foiler preventative matinece is better, where yoiu dont ph the water, and mix with neem oil or once and a while a sulfer soap and spray ant night or at dusk, oh not in the middle of the night either that is keeping them wet too long.