400 Watt HPS Bob Marley's Lambs Bread grow log

[greg1317]

I have had alot of experience growing outdoors but I recently decided to build a box in my room and grow inside. This is my second run indoors but my first posting to this forum. I'm running the Botanicare line of nutrients along with some other goodies. Here are my specs.

Bulb: GE 400 watt HPS
Ballast: Sun System Galaxy 400 watt switchable
Hood: XtraSun 6in air cooled
Location: 33x33x72in Box in bedroom
Grow Medium: Just Coir (coco)
Plants: 6x Bob Marley's Lambs Bread
Day Temp: 72-75*F
Night Temp: 65-70*F
Fan: 8in Booster on top of box

Nutrients for veg: Botanicare(pure blend pro veg, liquid karma, cal mag, sweet raw) Great white, super thrive

Nutrients for flower: Botanicare(pure blend pro bloom, liquid karma, cal mag, sweet raw, hydroplex) Great white


I am going to include some pics up till now so you can see what has been going on. On december 12th I transplanted the clones into 1 gal buckets full of coco. Heres a pic of them 2 days after the transplant on 12/14/10

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This is a pic of my box from the outside. You can see i have ducting coming out of the side of the box going to the window for fresh air.

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z477/assassin1317/IMG_20101220_195703.jpg




Here is the hood with the ducting and the plants on the 20th.

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My plants have been growing very nicely. This is them on the 22nd just 8 days after the first pic and 10 days after transplant.

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z477/assassin1317/12-22-10-2.jpg

Everything is going well. I just topped the plants on the 22nd and they went into a bit of shock but are fine. Let me know what you think. I'll keep posting as things develop.

[greg1317]

oh yea i forgot i'm also going to us mother of all blooms in the first two weeks of the last three weeks of flowering. Forgot to type that in there.

[greg1317]

Its the 27th of December and i'm on day 15 of my grow. I fimed the tops and now have 3 to 4 stocks on each plant. The topping caused a bit of purpling of the stems but the plants seem to be ok. I think the plants might be suffering from a N overdose cause they are wilting a bit and i've checked everything else. I'm going to give them a watering with straight water tonight and try to flush out the N from the coco. Hopefully that helps. The plants look pretty good though even though they are a bit droopy from what i would like. They are growing nice and green with thick stocks and short inter nodal length. Heres a pic of them right now.

This is them on 12/27/10 15 days after transplant.

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z477/assassin1317/IMG_20101227_174859.jpg

Here you can see where i topped/Fimed them.

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z477/assassin1317/IMG_20101227_175052.jpg


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[Stomper420]

Looks good Ill be watching:thumbsup:

[greg1317]

ok so i took my plants out of my box for a few min and put about a gallon of water total through the 6 plants in the bathtub. They drained out real nice in there.

Heres a pic of them in the bathtub while they were being flushed. You can see in this light the plants look much darker like they should.

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z477/assassin1317/IMG_20101227_231326.jpg


Heres a pic after they had been flushed. You can see the improvement from the pic i took ealier today posted above.

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z477/assassin1317/IMG_20101227_231931.jpg

I'm pretty sure that the plants were having an N overdose cause they seem to be fine now. I'm reducing the amount of pure blend pro veg from 15ml per gallon to 12ml per gallon. That should help.

[greg1317]

i'm going to transplant later on today now that the plants are back to full health. Lets hope all goes well. look for pics of that later on.

[greg1317]

ok this is getting annoying. After the day cycle my plants keep getting droopy. I cant figure out whats wrong. The temps are anywhere from 72-77*F and my ph is balanced at 6.0. I gave the plants a watering with just straight water to see if maybe it was an N overdose but that didnt seem to work. I thought it was helping but i guess not. Does anyone have any ideas of what might be wrong? Heres some pics of the plants right now while they are droopy. someone let me know what you think.


http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z477/assassin1317/IMG_20101228_100557.jpg

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http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z477/assassin1317/IMG_20101228_100611.jpg

someone please let me know what you think it might be. I wanna get this figured out asap.

[Dutch Pimp]

I'm confused?...:stoned:

It appears you said:.."I flushed in the tub...and then transplanted...and flushed again"

that's a lot of water....:wtf:...& they probably didn't need the transplant, yet?..is those pics before or after?...the transplant?

[greg1317]

no i havnt transplanted them yet. I havnt wanted to cause the plants have been getting droopy during the day cycle. My friend says it happens when you veg under an HPS but i'm not sure. The plants bounce back after the night cycle though.

[Agoblue97]

How far is your hood off the top of your plants? If they are bouncing back after their off cycle, almost sounds like too much light intensity or it's getting too warm.

[greg1317]

the hood is about 13in from the tops of the plants. but i have a sealed air cooled hood and there is no heat issue in the canopy. The canopy remains at around 72*F at all times during the light cycle. There is hardly any heat coming from the light at all.

[greg1317]

ok so everything has stabilized. Thanks for trying to help out before everyone. I was just kinda waiting everything out after the transplant, which i forgot to take pics of. Sorry about that. It turned out that vegging under an HPS causes the plants to wilt after the day cycle. I haven't ever vegged under anything else so i wouldn't know any different. Any opinions? I took the plants out of their 3 gallon buckets and put them in 1 gallon buckets. They have grown alot. Its kind of hard to tell since the buckets are so much bigger but the plants are 9in-12in high now. When i topped them they were only about 5in. They have bushed out a lot but i missed on one of the plants and it kept growing which is why i have a 12in tall plant and the rest are around 9in. I would top it again but i dont want to stress it out so close to flowering.


in this pic the arrow is the plant that is 12in and didn't get topped. You can see its not as bushy as the other plants. It actually has about the same amount of nodes as the other plants it just stretched out to 12in. Kind of sucks if you ask me.

both of these pics were taken on 1-2-10

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z477/assassin1317/IMG_20110102_221841.jpg

this is just another pic of them in there

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z477/assassin1317/IMG_20110102_221816.jpg

[greg1317]

ok well its been a couple of weeks since i last logged. Everything has been going well. I increased the amount of nutrients that i was giving the plants which made them get darker like they should be. These pics are of them today. The tallest one is 20in the shortest one is 18in. I topped them all when they were about 5in so they have gotten really bushy and have filled in the area very nicely. I have a very thick canopy now. I just started flowering last night and they have already started to grow very quickly.

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z477/assassin1317/IMG_20110117_234645.jpg


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[greg1317]

I'm 7 days into flower and the buds are starting to develop. You can see a couple of them in the pictures below. The tallest plant is about 24in tall now and the shortest one 22in. They are doing really well and are really healthy. I think the only reason i was having problems in the beginning is because my ph meter wasn't accurate at all and was causing my plants to have PH issues without me realizing it. I bought a new PH meter that was much better than my previous one and since then the plants have been very happy.

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z477/assassin1317/IMG_20110122_235134.jpg

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[Shovelhandle]

Nice jungle! :hippy:

[greg1317]

Thx a lot :D

[Stomper420]

Nice job, looks kinda thick in there. You have a real good fan in there right? Your gonna need it.:thumbsup:

[greg1317]

yea, i have an 8 in in line fan on the top back right of the box pulling air from the vent which is on the bottom front left of the box. I stood in there before i started growing and there is quite a lot of air movement in the box. My buddy helped me design the box and he has had quite a lot of luck with the same type of setup. He however has now moved on to a bigger setup. I deffinitly wont have a problem with air flow in this box. Theres just too much suction from that fan. :rastasmoke:

[Stomper420]

Ok, seems to me youd want something bloweing directly on the plants. looks good though:thumbsup:

[greg1317]

Like I said its a sealed wind tunnel in there so I shouldn't need another fan.

[greg1317]

Ok so i'm just finishing week 2 of flower and my girls are showing significant signs of flowering. You can see the buds starting to develop in the pictures below. The tallest one of my plants is 34in and the shortest one is 31in. The canopy isn't as thick as it was now that the plants have stretched a bit and the underside of the plant is starting to get more light.

Heres a pic of the canopy. You can see its spread out quite a bit.

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z477/assassin1317/IMG_20110129_230655.jpg

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Heres some pics of the flowers

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Heres a pic of some of the underside nodes.

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z477/assassin1317/IMG_20110128_230243.jpg

[greg1317]

I was going to try Mother of all Blooms instead of shooting powder but one of my friends who grows professionally told me that shooting powder is better and gives better results. He recommended sticking with that. So thats what i'm going to go with. I'll document the changes once i start the shooting powder in the 7th week.