pll T5 in ireland

[irishbud]

guys anyone know were i can get this setup in ireland....


HTG Supply - 2 Foot 2 Lamp PL-55 Tek Lamp (http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-HTG-Supply-2-Foot-2-Lamp-PL-55-Tek-Lamp.asp)

[blowsterke]

I have buyed them in Holland, 5 x PLL 55 growing and flowering.

This light is working really good.

The results are amazing.

I hope you can buy some in Ireland.

Merry Christmas.
Blowsterke

[irishbud]

guys can these be bought in ireland or the uk or some how adapted to run on our 220v current? id love the below setup it would be perfect for my grow tent

HTG Supply - 2 Foot 4 Lamp PL-55 Tek Lamp (http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-HTG-Supply-2-Foot-4-Lamp-PL-55-Tek-Lamp.asp#)

cheers

[tevfik]

Hey irishbud,
If you're able to DIY you can get bulbs, ballasts and sockets in there. You can make an effective reflector for them as i did here (http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/grow-log/261969d1293499324-my-first-mixed-seeds-grow-log-img_4454.jpg).

If not, go European grow websites to get 220 volt or simply use an adapter to convert from 110 to 220V. That will cost more for sure.
OR make a search on Irish electric stores. I'm sure you can find similar fixtures there.
I just found one: Excel Lighting - Surface Fluorescent Lighting (http://www.excelelectric.ie/lighting_web/Surface.asp)
I'm sure you can choose bulbs spectrum when ordering these. But it seems have a dimmable ballast and some more not necessary things with it. You can make a good search and find only the fixture itself or with normal electronic ballast.

[irishbud]

Hey irishbud,
If you're able to DIY you can get bulbs, ballasts and sockets in there. You can make an effective reflector for them as i did here (http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/grow-log/261969d1293499324-my-first-mixed-seeds-grow-log-img_4454.jpg).

If not, go European grow websites to get 220 volt or simply use an adapter to convert from 110 to 220V. That will cost more for sure.
OR make a search on Irish electric stores. I'm sure you can find similar fixtures there.
I just found one: Excel Lighting - Surface Fluorescent Lighting (http://www.excelelectric.ie/lighting_web/Surface.asp)
I'm sure you can choose bulbs spectrum when ordering these. But it seems have a dimmable ballast and some more not necessary things with it. You can make a good search and find only the fixture itself or with normal electronic ballast.

tevfik that light setup you have looks great. i done what you suggested i went out and bought the bulbs ballast etc, they had to order them in. i got 4 55w 6500k 2 80w 3000k and 2 55w 2700k. now how many plants did you have under your 4 bulb pl-l setup? and what did you use for a reflective is that mylar?

[tevfik]

tevfik that light setup you have looks great. i done what you suggested i went out and bought the bulbs ballast etc, they had to order them in. i got 4 55w 6500k 2 80w 3000k and 2 55w 2700k. now how many plants did you have under your 4 bulb pl-l setup? and what did you use for a reflective is that mylar?

Wait, there is sth wrong with it. What kind of light setup you're thinking about? You should buy all the lights in same wattage. Otherwise it will cost more. each ballast can run 2 bulbs in same wattage. This mean you will run 4 6500k with two 55w ballast. But for flowering you'll need one more ballast for 80w bulbs. Or you need wide range ballast which i didn't see yet. Even if it is exist I'm sure its much more expensive.
As i understand you want to run 4 bulbs at once, right? So, 3x6500k and 3x2700k/3000k can be enough. 55w or 80w its your choice, more is better. You can mix the spectrums and by doing this you save money for 2 bulbs. Or you can just buy 4 blue and 4 red as you did but same wattage. Not a big deal.

My bulbs are 36W and 4 of them fully covering two plants and partially 2 more. I have 5 plants in my cabinet but it seems its not enough for five (i mean the cabinet) Could be nice with 3 plants.
reflector material for the cabinet is called diamond shape reflector. Similar to mylar. For the bulbs i just bough half meter of antidetect reflector coz it is easy to give shape to make reflector and stable :)

[irishbud]

Wait, there is sth wrong with it. What kind of light setup you're thinking about? You should buy all the lights in same wattage. Otherwise it will cost more. each ballast can run 2 bulbs in same wattage. This mean you will run 4 6500k with two 55w ballast. But for flowering you'll need one more ballast for 80w bulbs. Or you need wide range ballast which i didn't see yet. Even if it is exist I'm sure its much more expensive.
As i understand you want to run 4 bulbs at once, right? So, 3x6500k and 3x2700k/3000k can be enough. 55w or 80w its your choice, more is better. You can mix the spectrums and by doing this you save money for 2 bulbs. Or you can just buy 4 blue and 4 red as you did but same wattage. Not a big deal.

My bulbs are 36W and 4 of them fully covering two plants and partially 2 more. I have 5 plants in my cabinet but it seems its not enough for five (i mean the cabinet) Could be nice with 3 plants.
reflector material for the cabinet is called diamond shape reflector. Similar to mylar. For the bulbs i just bough half meter of antidetect reflector coz it is easy to give shape to make reflector and stable :)

I was goin to veg under the 4 6500k bulbs and flower using the 2 different watt red bulbs. i got the 2 80w bulbs just to have extra lms using just the 4 bulbs so it was more lms than when they were under the veg lights, are the 3000k lights not as good as the 2700k? is it better to use all the same type of bulbs for each stage of growth?

[tevfik]

I was goin to veg under the 4 6500k bulbs and flower using the 2 different watt red bulbs. i got the 2 80w bulbs just to have extra lms using just the 4 bulbs so it was more lms than when they were under the veg lights, are the 3000k lights not as good as the 2700k? is it better to use all the same type of bulbs for each stage of growth?

You can remove 80w or 1x55w expenses or you can use 4x55w and 2x80w for flowering. I'm sure you'll need to add some more light during flowering than you think, probably will en up like this :)

Examples:
First start with 2x55w 6500k. Plants will be small and nearly fit under those. Keep the bulbs close to each others so plants can get all the light. When they're bigger you can start using 2 more 55w 6500k and after a while start training (LST, SCROG, topping etc). After that you can separate the bulbs equally on top. Change two of this 6500k to 2700k spectrum and run 80w bulbs too.
You'll be using 2x55w 6500k, 2x55w 2700k and 2x80w 3000k for flowering.

Or,
If you're not going to use 6 bulbs for flowering then one of the 55w ballast is not necessary. Bulb is cheaper than a ballast.
Here 4 bulbs option:
2x55w 6500k
2x55w 2700k
1x55w ballast
2x80w 3000k
1x80w ballast
You can start with 2x55w blue for veg same as previous. When they need more light, add 2x80w and continue vegging (If you don't feel comfortable with using red spectrum for vegging then you can just buy extra 80w blue spectrum bulbs. Better than extra unnecessary 55w ballast and bulbs). When you feel ready for flower change 2x55w 6500k to 2700k and flower.

There are not big difference between 2700k and 3000k or between 6500k and 6000k. Nearly same. You can use as you think or mix spectrum however you like. More blue for vegging and more red for flowering. That's all you need.

[irishbud]

tevfik cheers lad for the help. i got a light fixture on the cheap im going to try use so ill fiddle around with the bulbs, i have 8 different bulbs sure ill use them all if i have to there only 5 euro each lol. so ill get cracking and let you know what i done thanks again mate

[tevfik]

Welcome mate!
5 euro is very good price for 55 watters. Couldn't be cheaper than that.
I would like to see how will your grow be for sure.
BTW I'll add pictures of my new setup in couple of hours to my log. Check it out.

[irishbud]

Welcome mate!
5 euro is very good price for 55 watters. Couldn't be cheaper than that.
I would like to see how will your grow be for sure.
BTW I'll add pictures of my new setup in couple of hours to my log. Check it out.

tevfik can you help me out. im having problems wiring my lights to the ballast. i got a diagrame from the supplier but its not very clear on how to do it. can you give me any help to do this? thanks

[tevfik]

They all have different wiring. What ballast you have?

[irishbud]

They all have different wiring. What ballast you have?

thanks tevfik. the ballast info is....tridonic.atco pc 2/55 TCL PRO. each lamp holder has 4 cables i just cant figure it out. it has 6 round holes and 6 above them with 2 more at the other end which i think is were the power cable goes. im lost man

[tevfik]

Yes, two for power, six for lamps.
You can use above connections or holes. Here on the last page shows how to do.
http://www.tridonic.com/com/en/download/data_sheets/DS_PC_TCL_PRO_18-55W_xitec_en.pdf
But its showing for T5. For PLL there is a graphic on the ballast, I couldn't find a clear picture of it.

So, if the holders already have the cables just follow the graphic. Get two sockets together in order. So you'll have eight cables like this: llll llll
Give them number from one to eight. One bulbs right end pin and the other bulbs left end pin will be connected to each others. Like here: http://www.tridonic.com/com/en/download/Mounting_PC_PRO_sr.pdf Not PLL but you got what I mean (Ignore the ballast connection in this page).
In the end connection must be like this:
H for holder B for ballast
H1-B1 H2-B2 H3-B3 H4-H5 H6-B4 H7-B5 H8-B6

Again, I didn't see PLL connection for the ballast so, numbers can be different.

I used above connections, my cables weren't a single thick wired. So I just push the cable with hookup (long nose pliers) and those two knife shapes in the holes cut the plastic cower of the cable and wires could connect there and stuck. If you use this make sure they fit well in there.
Better use round holes, if you don't have single wired cable clear the cable plastic like 1 cm, roll the wires and make them together as one wire and push in to hole. Pull them after that to see if they're attached there or not.

Sorry I couldn't concentrate well, if anything looks wrong in this post, ask for confirmation.

Hope these helps and finally you start growing :)

[irishbud]

Yes, two for power, six for lamps.
You can use above connections or holes. Here on the last page shows how to do.
http://www.tridonic.com/com/en/download/data_sheets/DS_PC_TCL_PRO_18-55W_xitec_en.pdf
But its showing for T5. For PLL there is a graphic on the ballast, I couldn't find a clear picture of it.

So, if the holders already have the cables just follow the graphic. Get two sockets together in order. So you'll have eight cables like this: llll llll
Give them number from one to eight. One bulbs right end pin and the other bulbs left end pin will be connected to each others. Like here: http://www.tridonic.com/com/en/download/Mounting_PC_PRO_sr.pdf Not PLL but you got what I mean (Ignore the ballast connection in this page).
In the end connection must be like this:
H for holder B for ballast
H1-B1 H2-B2 H3-B3 H4-H5 H6-B4 H7-B5 H8-B6

Again, I didn't see PLL connection for the ballast so, numbers can be different.

I used above connections, my cables weren't a single thick wired. So I just push the cable with hookup (long nose pliers) and those two knife shapes in the holes cut the plastic cower of the cable and wires could connect there and stuck. If you use this make sure they fit well in there.
Better use round holes, if you don't have single wired cable clear the cable plastic like 1 cm, roll the wires and make them together as one wire and push in to hole. Pull them after that to see if they're attached there or not.

Sorry I couldn't concentrate well, if anything looks wrong in this post, ask for confirmation.

Hope these helps and finally you start growing :)

tevfik Cheers pal. i downloaded tht pdf already and just could not understand it. ill read through it again and try figure it out. thanks for all your help pal ill get it sorted and let you know how i get on cheers

[tevfik]

tevfik Cheers pal. i downloaded tht pdf already and just could not understand it. ill read through it again and try figure it out. thanks for all your help pal ill get it sorted and let you know how i get on cheers

Which part you didn't understand?

[Dexter007]

man check out uk websites,and ill get my stuff from belfast,they have there place called BIG.its a garden centre but they are selling HIM,SOD CFL and i think that LED as well.+ all the ballasts,reflectors and all what you need=) not been in the sop yet but i checked that online

[gypski]

guys can these be bought in ireland or the uk or some how adapted to run on our 220v current? id love the below setup it would be perfect for my grow tent

HTG Supply - 2 Foot 4 Lamp PL-55 Tek Lamp (http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-HTG-Supply-2-Foot-4-Lamp-PL-55-Tek-Lamp.asp#)

cheers

Buy a power converter for US electronics. I have one some where for when I went to Europe to run my American stuff. I got my bloom bulbs from HTG. Hope you can hook up, pun intended. :thumbsup: