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Uptown
04-27-2005, 04:53 PM
Has anyone tried the amanita extract? I've always shied away from the actual amanita 'shroom cuz of stories of poisoning n shit. But on the flip side, isn't amamanita supposed to be the SOMA of the RG VEDA the sacred texts of India? In any sense, anyone have any positive/negative experiences from the extract that is available?
hipEstoner
04-27-2005, 05:08 PM
never heard of it
Uptown
04-27-2005, 05:19 PM
never heard of it
It's a mushroom but NOT a psilocybin mushroom, in other words it is not PSILOCYBIN nut MUSCIMOL which induces the trip. I dont many people who have heard of it OR had experience with it either. anybody anybody LOL?
LearyS Disciple
04-27-2005, 08:03 PM
where are you planning on getting this extract?
Encatuse
04-27-2005, 08:43 PM
You won't get poisoned. I've taken it twice. I've split a pound of em dried among abuncha friends. Amanita Muscaria have shown no evidence of liver damage only their relatives.
Just don't take too many. I've had the worst trip I've ever had on those. Couldn't stop vomitting and kept getting lost in my own head thinking I was dead or becoming someone else. Amanita's are 10x more intense then psilocybin mushrooms.. but they are way more unpredictable. I'll never touch those fuckers again. ;)
Uptown
04-27-2005, 08:52 PM
where are you planning on getting this extract?
I was looking at Iamshaman.com If memory serves, memory been's a lil hazy lately sowwy, but they have a 1 gram extract of Am
Uptown
04-27-2005, 08:54 PM
You won't get poisoned. I've taken it twice. I've split a pound of em dried among abuncha friends. Amanita Muscaria have shown no evidence of liver damage only their relatives.
Just don't take too many. I've had the worst trip I've ever had on those. Couldn't stop vomitting and kept getting lost in my own head thinking I was dead or becoming someone else. Amanita's are 10x more intense then psilocybin mushrooms.. but they are way more unpredictable. I'll never touch those fuckers again. ;)
Thanks for the advice man. Yeah I always pussed out when it came to amanita, even in my crazy reckless "i don't give a fuck days" from all the stories i heard about poisoning and psychosis, etc. I saw a site, I amshaman i believe, that seels 1 g of resin or extract. noww being that it is not the actual mushroom, what is your take on eating, or smoking a gram, of pure amanita? I am fully aware that the trip is NOT like psilocybin, but have you any experiences with the extract? my idea is it would be pretty damn strong. any other advice I'd appreciate.
Uptown
04-27-2005, 08:56 PM
You won't get poisoned. I've taken it twice. I've split a pound of em dried among abuncha friends. Amanita Muscaria have shown no evidence of liver damage only their relatives.
Just don't take too many. I've had the worst trip I've ever had on those. Couldn't stop vomitting and kept getting lost in my own head thinking I was dead or becoming someone else. Amanita's are 10x more intense then psilocybin mushrooms.. but they are way more unpredictable. I'll never touch those fuckers again. ;)
come to think of it after reading your post...i might just SKIP em! Hahaha! the worst trip ya ever had huh? According to everyone's favorite site erowid, an average dose is in the range of1-5g's, now that is an approximation of course. What I'm looking at is a GRAM of EXTRACT so hmm that could equal god knows how much i'm not the scientific type! LOL It could been you took too much, or just that the trip induces a psychosis unlike those of psilocybin, hmmm i am skeptical now.
Encatuse
04-27-2005, 09:09 PM
I don't think the dose for amanita muscaria is 1-5 grams. Smoking the extract would be damn cool. But, your lungs would throw a shit fit. Amanita's make for just a 'stoned' feeling when you smoke em. I bet extract might be even moreso, or less needed for effects. Most people take between like 15 and 30 grams dried. So I don't know what extract number the amanita extract is, but if you just want to eat it, it should probably be 15x+.
Anyway, if you do decide to skip em, get some HB Woodrose. They rock large amounts of rockingness, and are legal. Just don't get em from Iamshaman, their's are duds.
boywonder
04-27-2005, 09:54 PM
I was looking at Iamshaman.com If memory serves, memory been's a lil hazy lately sowwy, but they have a 1 gram extract of Am
i think i knwo what your on about but surely there not leagal
brokndwn06
04-27-2005, 11:02 PM
Encatuse where do you suggest buying woodrose seeds from? i bought 50 untreated seeds off ebay and tried tea 3 times (cutting the tea bag open and putting the grinded seeds in the tea bag in filterd water method) with 8 seeds first time no results, then 10, then 15, then i tried the remaining 17 seeds grinded up on toast and nothing at all within a couple of weeks.. :mad: ... i also i tired 215 morning glory seeds with the tea method and still nothing.. :confused:
andruejaysin
04-28-2005, 03:46 AM
Aminita is perfectly legal, but not worth fucking with, it's sorta speedy and the trip is kinda fucked up, it's sorta a mario trip, in that it fucks with your perception of size or whatever, but it ain't shrooms.
Encatuse
04-28-2005, 04:07 AM
www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com has the best hawaiin baby woodrose seeds I've had. Take 13 and plan for all night tracers and overthinking everything. Or do like a good friend of mine and do an lsa extraction so you can take more lsa and get even more screwed up and you don't have to limit yourself to 13 seeds.
I agree Amanita is not worth it.
Uptown
04-28-2005, 05:33 AM
Aminita is perfectly legal, but not worth fucking with, it's sorta speedy and the trip is kinda fucked up, it's sorta a mario trip, in that it fucks with your perception of size or whatever, but it ain't shrooms.
yeah I think I will pass the amanita, but like encantuse said, the extract could be different I'm not sure the ratio of grams to extract, it wasn't quite specific at iamshaman. i have done morning glories when i was much younger, BUt like a fool FORGOT to strain the mush once i put it in my milkshake. Wow what a nastiness, but i did get a nice calming trip off it. surprisingly havent done woodrose but I think i'll experiment with those instead of amanita. What was the good site for woodrose again?
Uptown
04-28-2005, 05:37 AM
www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com has the best hawaiin baby woodrose seeds I've had. Take 13 and plan for all night tracers and overthinking everything. Or do like a good friend of mine and do an lsa extraction so you can take more lsa and get even more screwed up and you don't have to limit yourself to 13 seeds.
I agree Amanita is not worth it.
What is your method for woodrose? i heard you have to recmove the casing skin is that true for all woodrose? Or do you just blend em up and add to a favorite beverage? LOl
brokndwn06
04-28-2005, 01:23 PM
i scratched all mine off with a pocket knife...and i took 1 dramamine 45 mins b4 injestion i didnt have anykind of sickness nor did i trip though
Encatuse
04-28-2005, 02:26 PM
Some people take 1 or 2 dramamine before they take em. I never have. If I use a torch lighter, a sharp knife, and a pair of long tweezers to hold the seed while I flame it, I don't get any nausea, and I trip well. ^^
Scrape first, then torch, then take 8-12, then trip. ^^
Or better yet do an LSA extraction from erowid.
Odd Ball
04-28-2005, 02:45 PM
I tried amanita 10x. I took about half a gram. the 1st time I just drank it down with water, the 2nd time I stuffed it into capsuls. I didn't get any effects either time. Did I do it wrong?
Also, yea you gotta be careful about getting the right hawaiian woodrose seeds. The site I ordered from, shamanic extracts I think, sells hawaiian woodrose seeds instead of hawaiian BABY woodrose seeds. I would like to try these in the future, I'm getting them from basement shaman, they look completely different from the ones I ordred and fit the description of the right seeds.
Encatuse
04-30-2005, 02:06 AM
Yeah. You did do it wrong. When you ate .5 grams of 10x extract you ate 5 grams. Thats not even a threshholed dose. You need to eat 1.5-3 grams of 10x extract is a dose.
brokndwn06
05-04-2005, 02:34 PM
oddball or anyone have u orderd HBWR seeds from basement shamen before? were they worth it or duds? i orderd from bouncing bear the seeds were great but i think they r out of stock now cause i cant find them anymore on the site..i emailed them about it but i havent got anything back yet.
Odd Ball
05-04-2005, 11:14 PM
Nope, haven't ordered from them.
Uptown
05-06-2005, 11:40 AM
oddball or anyone have u orderd HBWR seeds from basement shamen before? were they worth it or duds? i orderd from bouncing bear the seeds were great but i think they r out of stock now cause i cant find them anymore on the site..i emailed them about it but i havent got anything back yet.
Brokedown...Basement Shaman is a top notch company. If you wanna purchase HWS go for them. Everything comes fast and the dude that runs it is honest and not in it for kicks, he seems to be a honest lover of ethnobotanicals. Ok, tell me again, you just scrape off the casings of the seeds and eat em or mash em up and THEN swallow? Still debating trying HBWS
brokndwn06
05-06-2005, 12:57 PM
not the casing the fuzzy stuff, u can injest anyway you want, if u use water use bottled water, i grind mine up in a coffe grinder and ive tried putting it in tea bags and letting the contents soak out in hot water but it didnt work for me... and i tried putting the grinded up seeds in apple sauce or yogurt and it works very well. no chewing just swallow you dont even notice.. i dont know how you do with nuasea..but you should 1 or 2 dramamine 30 mins before u ingest. this helps me and i dont have no nuasea but once i did it without the dramamine and had nausea at first. :eek:
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