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pisshead
04-27-2005, 04:08 PM
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050426-105947-6368r.htm



'Minutemen' to push Congress
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By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
http://images.washtimes.com/images/twt-grey2.gif Minuteman Project organizers will tell members of Congress today that "ordinary citizens sitting in lawn chairs" stopped a flood of illegal aliens along the U.S.-Mexico border, and that if the country's elected leaders "will not defend our nation's borders, American citizens will."
Organizers James T. Gilchrist and Chris Simcox will tell the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus, during a closed meeting, that the Minuteman volunteers shut down alien traffic along a 23-mile section of border while bringing nationwide attention to a national security crisis, of which porous borders and illegal aliens are key components.
"We demonstrated that ordinary citizens have not only the will, but the means to secure our border," said Mr. Gilchrist, a retired California certified public accountant and combat-wounded Vietnam veteran.
Mr. Simcox, a Tombstone, Ariz., newspaper publisher and founder of Arizona's Civil Homeland Defense Corps (CHD), also will tell the caucus that the volunteers were successful "simply by maintaining a presence on the border," adding that 15,000 new volunteers "are ready, willing and able to do the job our president and Congress will not do.
"There is no compromise; we will continue to exercise our civic duty until relieved by the National Guard or the U.S. military," Mr. Simcox said. "The Minuteman Project's phenomenal success proved that our borders can be secured. Now it's time to take our message to Washington -- where the real battle begins."
More than 800 Minuteman volunteers have been on duty along the border east and west of Naco, Ariz., at one time or another since April 1, part of a border vigil to protest the lax immigration policies of Congress and the White House.
Mr. Simcox, whose CHD has reported more than 4,100 illegal aliens to the U.S. Border Patrol since November 2002, said the new volunteers will be ready in October to control illegal immigration along the U.S.-Mexico border from California to Texas.
"We will package up what we've done here and do it again as a multistate border project. We will tell the government to do its job in securing this border or we will shut it down ourselves," he said.
Mr. Simcox and Mr. Gilchrist also are expected to say that in addition to proving that extra people on the border can deter illegal immigration, the Minuteman Project also established that the Mexican government -- if it wants to -- can exert control on its side of the border.
They said Mexican police, humanitarian workers and military personnel intercepted northbound migrants south of Minuteman observation posts, warning that "armed vigilantes" were waiting to hurt them. The Mexican government transported the would-be border crossers to Aqua Prieta, 25 miles east, and Nogales, 80 miles west, where illegal-alien totals later skyrocketed.
"It is clear the Mexican government clamped down on their side because of us," Mr. Simcox said.

amsterdam
04-27-2005, 04:15 PM
the minute men are doing a good job.at least some people will do it if our scared president wont.

pisshead
04-27-2005, 04:18 PM
he's not scared, he's following the CFR plan from the 70's, written in editions of foreign affairs around that time. i have copies from around that time that talk about creating a 'new world order' with no borders. this is simply world government being created before our eyes.

amsterdam
04-27-2005, 04:20 PM
he's not scared, he's following the CFR plan from the 70's, written in editions of foreign affairs around that time. i have copies from around that time that talk about creating a 'new world order' with no borders. this is simply world government being created before our eyes.


it has to do with the hispanic vote,everyone knows that.

pisshead
04-27-2005, 04:55 PM
everyone? i know plenty of hispanics who are against the illegal immigration and who don't vote for those who support it.

a person running for office is more likely to get votes if they come out against illegal immigration as their main platform since the vast majority of people in this country, from polls i've seen 70-80+ %, are against it.

amsterdam
04-27-2005, 05:00 PM
everyone? i know plenty of hispanics who are against the illegal immigration and who don't vote for those who support it.

a person running for office is more likely to get votes if they come out against illegal immigration as their main platform since the vast majority of people in this country, from polls i've seen 70-80+ %, are against it.


i would bet a huge amount of money on it is for political reasons and votes.
the republicans gained in every demographic this last yea

what was the biggest gain?hispanics,pushed kerry even further in the mud.

amsterdam
04-27-2005, 05:04 PM
things are not that complicated,keep it simple,you make way to much of things.

pisshead
04-27-2005, 05:44 PM
things are not complicated?

wow. okay, whatever.

amsterdam
04-27-2005, 05:55 PM
physics is complicated,so is molecular biology,

keep it simple bro.

let me make a guess at the majority of people who read those silly web-sites?
13-40year old males who live in their parents basement and watch x-file and battlestar gallactica reruns?

pisshead
04-27-2005, 11:08 PM
your inability to see that those silly websites simply link to mainstream stuff that never makes it on the nightly news (ap, reuters, bbc, papers from around the world, papers from all over the US, government websites, congressional record, library of congress...it goes on and on and on) shows more about your intellectual ability than someone who watches the x-files.

but i guess since you attacked your own strawman and beat him down, then you win?

amsterdam
04-28-2005, 01:40 PM
your inability to see that those silly websites simply link to mainstream stuff that never makes it on the nightly news (ap, reuters, bbc, papers from around the world, papers from all over the US, government websites, congressional record, library of congress...it goes on and on and on) shows more about your intellectual ability than someone who watches the x-files.

but i guess since you attacked your own strawman and beat him down, then you win?


no sir,it is your inability to see that those web-sites group stories and wild attention getting phrases and put them in out of context settings.they are like the new york times of the web!fake. :)

pisshead
04-28-2005, 02:15 PM
yeah, if you say so...

amsterdam
04-28-2005, 02:20 PM
if i say so??read that web-site again for heavens sake!look,people can read thatcrap for all anyone cares,but dont try to post that shit as reliable info when is for sure not.it dosent take a smart person to figure that out.

pisshead
04-28-2005, 02:21 PM
you are so smart.

amsterdam
04-28-2005, 03:54 PM
i am nothing special,a nobody,just stop trying to present taken out of context dribble,from whacko web-sites that anyone involved in politics or even writing a school paper would want to double check this crap.

its like the people who actuaslly believe W said "mission accomplished" when those words have NEVER come out of his mouth,or my favorite is the idiots who believe that W said he was called by god to be president?HE NEVER SAID THAT!!.he said being in public office is a calling,thats it,nothing more.

it is web sites like the ones you post(ever)that make up words that werent said and what not.they are a joke and a few of the people that set up these sites know that,they also people are soooooooooooooooooooooooo easily influenced that they will believe it,those are the smart ones.making money off other peoples ignorance and and how gullable and easy to inbfluence they are.(media,cnn,abc,details,cBS,fox and all the rest.

pisshead
04-28-2005, 03:55 PM
you're right. you are nothing special. you just have no discernment.

amsterdam
04-28-2005, 03:59 PM
believe me i know,my wife tells me that all the time hahaha.

live at space camp if you want.