FIRST INDOOR GROW: WHITE WIDOW AND HIMALAYAN

[Agoblue97]

Alright lets get this started with some basic info.

3 White Widow and 7 Himalayan Kush (Weed-Seeds.net)
Soil is Fox Farm Ocean Forest
Using Distilled Water
Fox Farm Big Grow Fert (6-4-4)
General Hydroponics pH test kit
3 26w 6500k CFLs
1 6" Oscillating fan

Cracked seeds in a damp paper towel. Planted 1 Himalayan Kush (HK) on November 24, 3 White Widow (WW) and 4 HK's on November 25, and the remaining 2 HK's on November 26. 2 HK's never came up probably due to the fact that I didn't have a pH kit at first, and my distilled water tested at 5.0 when I did get a kit. Wanna give a quick shout out to this website because if not for the info I got off of it, I would not have identified my problem so quickly and could've easily lost the rest of them. I'll attach some photos on a later post.:jointsmile:

[Agoblue97]

Alright got my photos downloaded onto my computer, so as soon as (1) I can figure out how to post them, or (2) I'm allowed to post them. Hopefully I'll be able to get them up for everyone to see very soon. If anyone has any suggestions on how to get them up a little sooner let me know, I saw 1 thread that said something about needing 50 post to add attachments. If this is the case I foresee alot of peeps getting their threads bumped.:jointsmile:

[pipefitter]

I would like to see the WW. Always been interested in that strain. I'll be checking this out. Have fun!

[Agoblue97]

Now have pics in my album, until i can get them up here on my thread.:thumbsup:

[canniwhatsis]

Now have pics in my album, until i can get them up here on my thread.:thumbsup:

Use the "BB" code under the pics in your album to imbed them in the thread until you can post them as attachments. ;)


Looking forward to it! :weedpoke:

[Agoblue97]

Thanks for the help Canni, will try this one just to see if I'm doing it right. If it works this is a pic from around November 28-29.

http://boards.cannabis.com/members/agoblue97-albums-first-indoor-grow-picture6485-im-guessing-about-november-28-29.jpg:thumbsup:

[Agoblue97]

Alright let's get caught up on some pics.

Pic 1- Just what i'm using as my starting box.
Pic 2- Inside of my starting box. 3 26w 6500k CFLs going 18/6, and my 6" oscillating fan. Inside of box lined with white computer paper.
Pic 3- Chemicals i'm using right now
Pic 4- I've found DVD cases are a great way to raise and lower my plants to the lights.

http://boards.cannabis.com/members/agoblue97-albums-first-indoor-grow-picture6493-just-common-cardboard-box-i-got-lowes-about-1-50.jpg
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/agoblue97-albums-first-indoor-grow-picture6491-inside-my-starting-box-3-26w-cfls-1-6-oscillating-fan-inside-lined-white-printer-paper.jpg
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/agoblue97-albums-first-indoor-grow-picture6492-using-fox-farm-big-grow-during-veg-my-general-hydroponics-ph-test-kit-my-misting-bottle.jpg
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/agoblue97-albums-first-indoor-grow-picture6490-dec-10-ive-found-dvd-cases-great-way-raise-lower-your-plants-light.jpg

[Agoblue97]

Ok some more pics, finally on to the plants. By the way sorry about the quality of the photos, the kids broke the digital camera, so I'm stuck with my IPhone for pics.

Pic 1- Good comparison in height between my Shorty and the rest of the girls. I'm guessing she got stunted during the pH fiasco the first week.
Pic 2- Took this pic because I was a little worried about the drooping tip of the leaves on just this plant. Maybe I'm just being a little over cautious, but any advice would be appreciated.
Pic 3- A good top view of all of my plants as of this morning. Everyone's looking good after the first fert yesterday. 3mL/gal was the concentrate amount i used.
Pic 4- OOPS, got a little bit of the roots coming out the bottom holes of the 4"x4" pots I'm using. Planning on transplanting them into 1 gal pots tomorrow and moving them under my 400w Hortilux Blue MH.

http://boards.cannabis.com/members/agoblue97-albums-first-indoor-grow-picture6488-dec-10-only-few-inches-tall.jpg
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/agoblue97-albums-first-indoor-grow-picture6489-dec-10-good-comparison-height-my-shorty-rest-girls-im-guessing-she-got-stunted-during-my-ph-fiasco.jpg
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/agoblue97-albums-first-indoor-grow-picture6495-dec-10-good-top-view-my-girls-middle-row-vertically-white-widows.jpg
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/agoblue97-albums-first-indoor-grow-picture6482-dec-10-roots-just-starting-come-out-my-4-x4-pots-plan-transplanting-them-moving-them-under-400w-hortilux-blue-mh-tomorrow.jpg:thumbsup:

[Agoblue97]

Had to give Shorty a little extra face time, she's the shortest of them all, but she started to smell today. OOOHHH SOOOO SWEET!!!!:jointsmile:



http://boards.cannabis.com/members/agoblue97-albums-first-indoor-grow-picture6486-dec-10-smallest-my-girls-but-only-one-starting-smell-oh-so-sweet.jpg:smokin:

[Agoblue97]

Alright sorry been sooo long since an update. If you've followed the plant problem section you'll see what I'm dealing with now. I believe it to be rust fungi. I'll put some pics up of what's been going on up til now.:wtf:

[Agoblue97]

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These first pics are of my new room after the carboard box.

[Stomper420]

Nice, I have 3 WWs in flower and anouther 6 about 2 weeks old. Id like to kick back and watch yours if you dont mind? All my other WWs were male so I had to fire up the chain saw and fall some trees:D

Good luck brudder, grow on:thumbsup:

[Agoblue97]

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Alright here we got the girls just after transplanting into 1 gal pots. FFOF mixed with 20% perlite.
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This is probably about a week to a week and a half after pic 1.
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Here's a side shot of pic 2.
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Here's a side shot about 4 days after pics 2 and 3.
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And here we have a top shot of pic 4. Looking really healthy, but maybe a slight overwatering problem.

[Agoblue97]

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Due to the overwatering issue and just for convience, I decided to add a watering system. What we have here is an 18 gal Rubbermaid tote with a 100gal/hr eco-line water pump pumping through a 1/2" ID black hose.
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Here's the 2nd half of the watering system. 1/2 gal/hr dripper fed into a 1/4" tube connected to a dripper stake in each pot. Was thinking of going with drip rings instead of dripper stakes. If someone has input on that it'd definately be appreciated.
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Here's a side shot about a week and a half ago. Overwatering becoming a serious issue here.
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And here is last Sunday. I had just finished transplanting them into 3 gal pots about 2 hrs before. Once again FFOF mixed with 20% perlite. Also took clones while doing the transplant(Notice my homemade aeroponic/hydroponic cloner, I saved $200 making my own, hopefully it works.) Used Clonex Rooting Solution in the cloner. And we still have overwatering going on. Overwatering + cool night temps = (Drum Roll please) RUST FUNGI!!!!
And that takes us up to where I'm at on the Plant Problem forum, but I'll throw some pics up here in a sec.

[Agoblue97]

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Alright here's a pic of what it started out looking like.
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Here's about an intermediate stage of it. At this point I started thinking maybe Mg deficiency so I treated everything with a dose of Cal-Mag 10mL/gal, but then after that I got to thinking it was only on 1 plant before I did the transplant. 2 days later it was on everything after I had been in there messing with everything doing the transplants. The next reason I started steering away from a deficiency is I'm growing in soil. How likely is it that all of them would go through this severe of a deficiency at the exact same time?
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And this is the stage right before the leave completely dies and falls off. This picture is what finally brought me around to believing it is Rust Fungi after hours of google searching it.


So after being on the Plant Problem forum for a couple days now, the 2 main conclusions are:

1: Mg and other micronutrient deficiencies since I was using R/O water(I just switched to tap.)
2: Rust Fungi


The Mg and other micronutrient deficiencies should be solved by me switching to tap water, however I'm going to continue to use the Cal-Mag for the next 2 weeks(figured I've already bought it might as well use some.)

The solution to the Rust Fungi is a bit more complicated. To the best of my researching abilities, I've found that using a Sulfur vaporizer is about the best way to treat it. From what I can tell it raises the pH level of the leaves to an unsuitable level for the fungi to grow on it. I also haven't found any adverse side effects as long as used properly and not within 2 weeks of harvest. So I've order some sulfur online(the pure sulfur meant for vaporizing is a real pain in the rear end to find, took me like 2 hours to find a place that sells it.) And I plan on building the vaporizer tomorrow. I found a really easy and cheap DIY on another cannabis forum site.



So that's my plan. I've already cut down on the watering so that shouldn't be a problem anymore. I just really noticed it in my plants this week when things went wrong, but the funny thing is by updating this log today I've been able to track back to when it really started. Wish I would've been keeping this log a little more up to date, some of you experienced guys probably would have caught that along time ago. And that might have prevented my problems now. I'm gonna try to keep this log more up to date from here on out. Like always if someone has suggestions, advice, and or comments feel free to send them this way. I'm always looking for help.


P.S. Anyone know why I have disabled rep? Did I offend someone? Give bad advice to peeps(I try to keep quite and listen unless I've got a good idea what's going on?) Just Curious, no big deal everything still works and I've still got access to the site.

[canniwhatsis]

P.S. Anyone know why I have disabled rep? Did I offend someone? Give bad advice to peeps(I try to keep quite and listen unless I've got a good idea what's going on?) Just Curious, no big deal everything still works and I've still got access to the site.

Nope!

Can still rep you, so it's not disabled! ;)

I posted my comments in the Plant problem section.

[Agoblue97]

Thanks for the response in the Plant Problem section, Canni. Thanks for the info on the rep also, was just curious because I've been on here so much the last couple of days with my problems going on that I noticed my little black cube up there by my name.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

go to your user CP and change the rep selection.

Grow was looking very, very nice. I hope you can kill that fungus and save it.

[Agoblue97]

Hello everyone, I know it's been quite some time since my last post. Sorry about that, but have been extremely busy and the plants have had nothing but trouble since the last post. We've fought off a Mg deficiency, ballast trouble, timer trouble and probably a couple more things I've forgot to mention. The timer problem really caused an issue and sent my plants into early flower with all kinds of other lights on during the time they were trying to flower. Unfortunately took me about a week to catch this seeing as how I don't live with my plants, and only get to see them every 2-3 days. So after all the time and $ I've got into this I decided to set them back into veg. Surprising to me, this only took about a week and a half. Lost 1 plant to the Mg deficiency(didn't actually kill it, but got tired of nursing it along when other had been cleared up for more than 2 weeks.) Found only 1 male out of the 8 plants I had in my room(the 1 good thing about the light mishap), so got rid of him. The rest all showed of being ladies.:) And since it's taking me so long to get them all healthy and ready to flower, I had to cut the weakest link out to give more room to the remaining plants. So that brings us down to 5. I now know they are all ladies. 2 White Widow and 3 Himalayan Kush. Oh almost forgot, the aeroponic cloner had 100% success rate. I started with 22 cuttings and now have 19 three week old plants(3 cuttings were from the male plant and got scraped as soon as he showed.) I'll get some pics up and try to remember anything else I've got going on.:jointsmile:

[Stomper420]

Check out my log ago. I have WWs also. Ill keep you up to date on them. All from seed with only two males. Not bad:thumbsup:

Looking good, keep at it:rastasmoke:

[kantgitwrite19]

nice job man, Can you do me a favor and take a shot of what the cloner looks like when you lift the lid up... I would like to see whats under the hood if you dont mind as I will be cloning my blue mystic asap. I also noticed that your plants were much farther along at an earlier stage then mine were....why is this? my guess is that I just got a good light on them... would that be the main thing that would contribute to that? Keep up the good work, I will be popping in from time to time.:)