View Full Version : Anyone in Portland, OR taken a test at Adventist Health?
pdx247
12-05-2010, 04:23 AM
I'm taking a test there on Mon or Tue and need to know if the make you disrobe. I have Quick Fix, but am terrified that if I have to strip that I'll get caught. It's for pre-employment, so I don't know how strict they are at Adventist. PLEASE if anyone out there knows, I would love an answer!
Burnt Toast
12-05-2010, 01:13 PM
If this an employment-related U/A, the collector can only have you remove jackets, hats, and have you empty your pockets. They cannot make you strip or have you change into a gown (unless its a combined physical/drug test).
pdx247
12-05-2010, 05:21 PM
It is employment related. Do you know that for sure, is that just anecdotal, or is that something that is standard industry practice? Thanks so much for your reply!
pdx247
12-05-2010, 05:23 PM
What about a pat down? Can they pat your crotch? Or look in bra?
Burnt Toast
12-05-2010, 05:41 PM
Not it is not anecdotal. Its the regulations outlined by the Department of Health & Human Services.
And no they cannot frisk or otherwise touch you in any manner if this is an employment-related test. That constitutes ''groping'' and is against the law. Know your rights and dont be afraid to assert them!
Now if the test is for court-ordered probation, thats an entirely different ball game as the person placed on probation has relinquished virtually all of the rights normally enjoyed by individuals taking a test for employment.
pdx247
12-05-2010, 10:11 PM
Burnt Toast-
Do you have a link for the HHS regulations about this? I can't find it. Thanks so much for your help
Burnt Toast
12-05-2010, 11:33 PM
Ask the donor to:
â?¢ Remove any unnecessary outer clothing (e.g., coat, jacket, hat, etc.).
o The donor must not be asked to remove other articles of clothing (e.g., shirts, pants, dresses, undergarments) or to remove all clothing and wear a hospital or examination gown.
o It is not necessary for the donor to remove the following items, unless the collector suspects that they are concealing something that may be used to adulterate or substitute a specimen:
â?? Work boots or cowboy boots, or
â?? A hat or head covering that the donor refuses to remove based on religious
practice.
â?¢ Leave other personal belongings (e.g., briefcase, purse) with the outer clothing. The donor may retain his or her wallet.
o To safeguard a donorâ??s belongings, procedures may be established to secure the items during the collection. These may include:
â?? An itemized receipt for belongings left with the collector,
â?? Storage in a lockable cabinet (i.e., with access controlled by the donor) or â?? An envelope, box, or container secured with tamper-evident tape.
â?¢ Empty his or her pockets and display the items to ensure that no items are present that could be used to adulterate the specimen.
o If there are no items that can be used to adulterate a specimen, instruct the donor to return the items to the pockets and continue the collection procedure. Go to Step 9.
o If an item is found that appears to have been brought to the collection site with the intent to adulterate the specimen, use a direct observed collection procedure (see Chapter 7, Section D).
o If an item that could be used to adulterate a specimen appears to have been inadvertently brought to the collection site, secure the item and continue with the normal collection procedure. Go to Step 9.
o If the donor refuses to display the items in his or her pockets, stop the collection. This is considered a refusal to test (see Chapter 8, Section B). Source: http://www.drugfreeworkplace.gov/DrugTesting/pdf/specimen_collection_handbook_2010_100908.pdf
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