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middieman440
12-01-2010, 10:56 PM
gonna be using it today for pre employment dot drug test,but its a manufacturing job no driving,hopefully all goes well....also going to test my pee and see if im neg or positive....ordered it from bings smoke shop hopefully its legit...will no when it comes in the mail!!! where do i go to check and see if its legit!

Deige
12-01-2010, 11:46 PM
gonna be using it today for pre employment dot drug test,but its a manufacturing job no driving,hopefully all goes well....also going to test my pee and see if im neg or positive....ordered it from bings smoke shop hopefully its legit...will no when it comes in the mail!!! where do i go to check and see if its legit!

You can check it at Urineluck.com. Click on the detox products tab at the top and then select Quick Fix. The next page will have a quick links list on the left side of the page. Scroll down and choose Announcement 1. You'll have all the information you need to spot a counterfeit batch.

middieman440
12-02-2010, 12:52 AM
on the neon greenish paper it says batch P9D-10 package was shrinkwraped it was the quick fix plus 3 oz patent 7,192,776,im thinking its legit..

but took the pee test everything went fine only used a 1/4 of the bottle the lady put it into a small tube and its being sent to pacific toxicology labs,in california...

the test they checked off is drug test 4507:7 drugs.

i took the pee test at 4:20 pm hopefully thats a good sign haha

temps wer good still have some juice left can i reuse this again if needed.

and has anyone had there samples sent to this collection place or herd of this place?

middieman440
12-02-2010, 11:19 PM
failed!.kinda dissapointed

Deige
12-02-2010, 11:27 PM
failed!.kinda dissapointed

Did your package contain Heat Factory handwarmers?.... And also, what state are you in?

middieman440
12-02-2010, 11:50 PM
california and the heat pack was a red plastic cover,said spectrum labs on the pack with there website..was the quick fix 3 oz,the whole box was shrink wrapped.batch number was legit called spectrum labs yesterday and checked..the lab is sending me the result paper...very bummed this job was at my girls company where shes an accountant wich isnt very good since i failed.! was sent to pacific toxicoligy labs in california.....Pacific Toxicology Laboratories (http://www.pactox.com)

Deige
12-03-2010, 12:00 AM
california and the heat pack was a red plastic cover,said spectrum labs on the pack with there website..was the quick fix 3 oz,the whole box was shrink wrapped.batch number was legit called spectrum labs yesterday and checked..the lab is sending me the result paper...very bummed this job was at my girls company where shes an accountant wich isnt very good since i failed.! was sent to pacific toxicoligy labs in california.....Pacific Toxicology Laboratories (http://www.pactox.com)

Man that sucks...Sorry to hear it bro.:(

I'm wondering if California is now testing for synthetic along with Oregon. I haven't seen too many fails with a legit batch of QF and the ones i'm seeing, are the ones testing for Uric Acid. Spectrum labs has designed a Canadian version that contains the Uric acid to combat this. These fuckers are making it harder and harder for us to beat these drug tests now a days. What can we do... Anyway, please let us know what your lab results state when you get them back. You'll be helping someone down the road.:thumbsup:

middieman440
12-03-2010, 12:04 AM
yeah it sucks,i'll post the results when i get them

Jerry G
12-03-2010, 12:18 AM
I suspect that uric acid testing will be SOP very soon for all labs...

middieman440
12-03-2010, 12:37 AM
The FUDT Laboratory tests for drugs of abuse and is relied upon by industries nationwide to ensure the safety of their employees. The FUDT Laboratory also works with established programs providing abstinence monitoring, quality control validation for pharmaceutical manufacturers and testing for professional sports teams. The facility utilizes high-speed auto analyzers (Enzyme Immunoassay) for drug screening with secondary (confirmatory) testing by Gas Chromatography/Mass Spectrometry.

thats how they do there drug testing

Jerry G
12-03-2010, 12:39 AM
The FUDT Laboratory tests for drugs of abuse and is relied upon by industries nationwide to ensure the safety of their employees. The FUDT Laboratory also works with established programs providing abstinence monitoring, quality control validation for pharmaceutical manufacturers and testing for professional sports teams. The facility utilizes high-speed auto analyzers (Enzyme Immunoassay) for drug screening with secondary (confirmatory) testing by Gas Chromatography/Mass Spectrometry.

thats how they do there drug testing

I'm very familiar with the tests.

All I am saying is that uric acid will probably be added to creatine and specific gravity as integrity checks.

middieman440
12-03-2010, 12:49 AM
yeah,i guess its time for me to stop for a good while untill i find work and not worry bout failing..

Burnt Toast
12-03-2010, 03:44 AM
Uric acid is not tested for on a DOT-regulated test. Labs conducting DOT testing can only perform the validity tests outlined in § 40.91 of the DOT regulations and apply the criteria for a "substituted" sample outlined in § 40.93 of the DOT regs:
http://www.dot.gov/ost/dapc/NEW_DOCS/subpart_f/40_91_IFR_200411.pdf
http://www.dot.gov/ost/dapc/NEW_DOCS/subpart_f/40_93_IFR_200411.pdf
These are the most current regs on the books.

Source: U.S. Department of Transportation / Office of the Secretary of Transportation (http://www.dot.gov/ost/dapc/NEW_DOCS/part40.html?proc)

Jerry G
12-03-2010, 04:08 AM
Good catch BT.

When the DOT begins to use uric acid as a validity test it will be in writing...

Burnt Toast
12-03-2010, 04:19 AM
Good catch BT.

When the DOT begins to use uric acid as a validity test it will be in writing... Yep, and when the Agency makes any changes to the regs (even proposed changes), it will be in writing as well. :thumbsup:

Keeping tabs periodically of any proposals/rule changes can be done by visiting this page: U.S. Department of Transportation / Office of the Secretary of Transportation (http://www.dot.gov/ost/dapc/news.html)

Dieselboy1
12-03-2010, 06:39 AM
OMG I am freaking out now reading this! I subbed today using QF 5.7 as well for a NON DOT test at Concentra. Same story though and the hand warmers were the same. Red label that read Spectrum Labs on it. Shrink wrapped and everything. My sample was sent off to ACL Labs in Wisconsin. I too, called in today and checked my batch number with Spectrum. If the temp is right and it's a legit batch why else would it fail? If the temp was off they'd mark that right away. And if it was from uric acid on a DOT screen that would be impossible seeing as standards have not changed.

My heart is going a mile a minute.... ughhhh

webdox
12-03-2010, 07:18 AM
failed!.kinda dissapointed

I'm sure we'd all be interested in seeing on paper what they failed you for. Please post when you have a scanned copy.

Dieselboy1
12-03-2010, 04:02 PM
The only explanation would be a breakdown of the QF under exposure to sunlight or a lab error. Speaking of which... this particular lab is no stranger to that sort of thing. Very interesting articles...

Lab Errors May Change Local Case Outcomes - San Diego News Story - KGTV San Diego (http://www.10news.com/news/22094910/detail.html)
San Diego District Attorney Reports Lab Errors Across San Diego County | San Diego Criminal Defense (http://www.wklaw-sandiego.com/blog/criminal-defense/san-diego-district-attorney-reports-lab-errors-across-san-diego-county/)
REGION: Officials say no more bad lab tests found so far (http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/sdcounty/article_c3203045-8c4b-5769-aca3-4e6083b01a38.html)

middieman440
12-04-2010, 05:36 PM
my employer called me back saying they called the wrong potential employee and that my ua came back clean and i start monday....the quick fix did work....it was a mistake on my employers part.this lady was very sorry for her mistake.....sucks for the other individual though....but at least i am now employed,temporarily,and hopefully get hired full time!

Deige
12-04-2010, 08:09 PM
my employer called me back saying they called the wrong potential employee and that my ua came back clean and i start monday....the quick fix did work....it was a mistake on my employers part.this lady was very sorry for her mistake.....sucks for the other individual though....but at least i am now employed,temporarily,and hopefully get hired full time!

Glad to hear it man, I was hoping that someone had made a mistake. Anyway, welcome to the sub club and good luck with the new job.:thumbsup:

middieman440
01-30-2011, 08:58 PM
late post but thanks job is going good