Nutrient Lock ?

[Charbud]

Hi guys, having a problem with my grow....:( always involves fucking nutrients aswell !! hate them, may go organic but anyway...last 3.5 weeks my girls havent been growing much at all...so i thought it was my temps which were around 18.C but i sorted that out and now they run at about 21.3.C with my new heater...so a gave them a week an half since then and still they hadnt grown so i thought ah they dont have enough nutes so started giving them full strength feed...still nothing has really happened till today...only one plant has grown through it as it did make me think..'whys this one growing and all the other not' so obviously it has a higher tolerance to the ph or amount of nutes...so do my girls that have stopped growing have nute lock ? some have a couple of yellowing leaves which i believe to be a sign ? they are coming up to week 6 and they are way too small, may have to set them back a week or so lets say week 5 so they can catch up....I did flush them after my late brainwave but how do you all think things will pan out ? 4 weeks enough time to plump up a bit ?

I have been using Canna nutes - Bloom, PK & cannazym at 3/4 strength to 3 litres of tap water...plants are under 500 watts of cfls....


Will upload a pic of my mighty small buds tomorrow

I just wana through this grow out and start again...really kicking myself in the leg over this !!!!!

Cheers :( - hopefully soon - :rastasmoke:

[Charbud]

[attachment=o259901] yes week 6

[Rusty Trichome]

Looking dark green there. When do you cut-back on nitrogen? It's getting pretty deep into flowering, so you might want to think about restricting the nitrogen, or flushing it out of the pot.
Doesn't look like major ph issue, but I see a few leaves that make me mention it.

Likely best to fill-out the troubleshooting form.

From seeds or clones? All the same strain? Have you grown this strain without incident before...?
If clones, how long had they been rooted before switching to 12/12, and how tall were they when you switched?

[PhatJay]

Hiya Charbud, sorry to hear you are having problems m8. Get some more details posted up! Also, what medium did you go with this time round?

[LetsSeeYa]

Hey Char, check out your roots, because when the soil gets cold the roots do too and it will stop your growth right now. It happen to me so i put a something under the pots and the growth started back in a few days. I also have put them in a box to try and keep the soil warm. Hell i wrapped my seeds in my electric blanket till they popped and now in a box with a light on 24/0 to keep the soil warm enough till i get my lights up.

Nice looking plant man:thumbsup:

Just a thought bro, good luck:rasta:

[Charbud]

Looking dark green there. When do you cut-back on nitrogen? It's getting pretty deep into flowering, so you might want to think about restricting the nitrogen, or flushing it out of the pot.
Doesn't look like major ph issue, but I see a few leaves that make me mention it.

Likely best to fill-out the troubleshooting form.

From seeds or clones? All the same strain? Have you grown this strain without incident before...?
If clones, how long had they been rooted before switching to 12/12, and how tall were they when you switched?

Hi Rusty, nice to see your still around ! They never had nitrogen because i flowered after 2 weeks of veg, only bloom feed at week 5 or week 3 of flower. I think it was nute lock..i feed them and all the run off goes into the tray which they sit in, they then drink it all up by the next day but i rekon some evaporates and leaves salts and buildup in the tray so when they are next fed the strength gets of the nutes gets even stronger. Didnt explain that too well but basically they drink their run off ! They are from seed, the worst being the papaya from nirvana which everyone says is shit so no suprise there to be honest. Never grown the strain before and they rooted for 2 - 2.5 weeks before flower, the roots were well developed because i repotted them and they were about 3 inches when i started flower.


Hiya Charbud, sorry to hear you are having problems m8. Get some more details posted up! Also, what medium did you go with this time round?

Hi mate, nice to see you ....well virtually. i chose soil again, i don't have time for coco for example there was a period i couldnt see my girls for 3 days and if i had coco they would be bone dry ! i did mix my soil with pertile this time round though ! Im currently growing, papaya, bubble cheese, lsd, strawberry haze, cream caramel... a ncie selection although the only one with any nice amount of bud is the cream caramel ! which ill post a pic of at the bottom of post. Cheers for your input mate


Hey Char, check out your roots, because when the soil gets cold the roots do too and it will stop your growth right now. It happen to me so i put a something under the pots and the growth started back in a few days. I also have put them in a box to try and keep the soil warm. Hell i wrapped my seeds in my electric blanket till they popped and now in a box with a light on 24/0 to keep the soil warm enough till i get my lights up.

Nice looking plant man:thumbsup:

Just a thought bro, good luck:rasta:

The cold was a problem but that was all solved with the heater about 2 weeks ago...maybe they are still suffering ? The pots are in trays on a camping mat so thats as warm as there guna get. Either way my problem lys with nutes or the temps. Cheers for checking in and reply to my email !!! :rastasmoke:


Trouble shooting film :
E-indoor
E-soil
E-normal compost mixed with pertile about 70/30
CSL-B&Q standard compost

SCL-pertile
SCLR-Soil run off was 7.5 according to the little meter with the arm that swings about...v inaccurate but gives a vague idea
E-Tap water

E-Age of plant week 8
E-Type of fertilizer canna boost, cannazym and pk

E-Lighting source and distance from plant - 250 X 2 cfl red and about 1 inch from tops
E-Air temperature (both day and night if you are running a dark period) - highs of 23.2.o.c and lows of 17.3...average temp of 20.3.o.c

E-Air % Relative humidity - not humid at all
E-Lighting schedule - 12/12
E-Type of ventilation your room has - loft so fresh air comes in through cracks and stuff
TR-Did you pre-soak your media in pH corrected solution? no

Hope this helps a bit with the girls diagnosis...they are looking better since the flush..cream caramels leaves still going brown so not sure about her but she is finishing in 3 weeks and is packing on weight...so maybe shes just finishing ?

Bubble cheese has purple leaves ? lower buds arent developig well because of the top canopy blocking light

Lsd is tall and known for shitty yield and genetics

Strawberry haze is known to be a bit gangly and low yielding so expected

Papaya is bullshit from nirvana...should have lisented to people on this forum about them !!!

Cream caramel smells earthy and will be my best yielder although in a brown state....


Piccys :smokin:

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The cream caramel...my fave plant out of the lot..should really name her

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bit of new growth on the lsd

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Fucked up cream caramel leaf

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Bubble cheese purple leaves ????? :wtf:

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All the girls chilling....literally

Cheers guys..always no where to come to for bit of help

[Charbud]

Sorry about the orientation.. always been a battle on this site for some reason !!

[PhatJay]

Hi mate, nice to see you ....well virtually. i chose soil again, i don't have time for coco for example there was a period i couldnt see my girls for 3 days and if i had coco they would be bone dry ! i did mix my soil with pertile this time round though ! Im currently growing, papaya, bubble cheese, lsd, strawberry haze, cream caramel... a ncie selection although the only one with any nice amount of bud is the cream caramel ! which ill post a pic of at the bottom of post. Cheers for your input mate

I only have to water daily because I use small pots. Weezard grows in coco with much larger pots and he waters every 3 days (as far as I remember).

My mate tried bubble cheese for the 1st time on his last grow. The buds were really small and he got less than half of what his plants normally produce. Maybe you should try a higher yielding, slightly less potent strain next time?

Talking of pics, I know you were thinking of going the bonsai route and I did say that I would post up the pic of my bonsai experiment. This was the smallest of the 2 plants...

http://i.imgur.com/dIW3j.jpg

I put them into flower the day I got the cuttings as they were about 7-10 days into veg (guestimate) they had about 5 or 6 nodes. Got 24g's off the smaller one and 52g's off the bigger one (dried weight).

This was the last bit of bud from the smaller plant once it was cured.
http://i.imgur.com/nh9lU.jpg

I'm gonna have to create a yahoo account or sommat so we can have a proper chat sometime.


The cold was a problem but that was all solved with the heater about 2 weeks ago...maybe they are still suffering ?

A friend of mine was growing in a shed just before last winter, his plants got cold and they took weeks to recover.

Another thought.... How cold is the water you are adding? I keep my water at room temperature for 24 hours before I use it, so it doesn't chill the roots when I feed.

[Charbud]

I only have to water daily because I use small pots. Weezard grows in coco with much larger pots and he waters every 3 days (as far as I remember).

My mate tried bubble cheese for the 1st time on his last grow. The buds were really small and he got less than half of what his plants normally produce. Maybe you should try a higher yielding, slightly less potent strain next time?

Ye i think i chose sum pretty shitty strains to be honest. I get bowled over my the descriptions and the names which get me all excited and so i have to grow them and i never research the strains. Oh well, learnt my lesson now ! And yes high yielding is the idea for the next grow! sticking with barneys seeds, definately didnt fail me with the vanilla kush.


Talking of pics, I know you were thinking of going the bonsai route and I did say that I would post up the pic of my bonsai experiment. This was the smallest of the 2 plants...

http://i.imgur.com/dIW3j.jpg

I put them into flower the day I got the cuttings as they were about 7-10 days into veg (guestimate) they had about 5 or 6 nodes. Got 24g's off the smaller one and 52g's off the bigger one (dried weight).

This was the last bit of bud from the smaller plant once it was cured.
http://i.imgur.com/nh9lU.jpg

I'm gonna have to create a yahoo account or sommat so we can have a proper chat sometime.

Mate that bonsai is nuts. I still dont get how you yield so much bud of your girls using cfls.. i got an oz of my vanilla kush which was an lst, vegged for 5 weeks or something and you can do that with a bonsai plant ! madness..what strain was it ? good smoke ? anything on the go at the moment ? my email is [email protected] if you ever wana chat. Havent got yahoo anymore, the messenger programme was too annoying on my comp, always opened on start up.





A friend of mine was growing in a shed just before last winter, his plants got cold and they took weeks to recover.

Another thought.... How cold is the water you are adding? I keep my water at room temperature for 24 hours before I use it, so it doesn't chill the roots when I feed.

Ye the cold definately effects them, had that problem with my first grow...cold hit em and they didnt grow at all till harvest. I feed them straight from the tap but i do try to warm it up a bit, not warm water but like you said room temp so luke warmish. When i flushed though the water was pretty cold but the heater does keep the soil warm as before i would feel the soil and they would feel freezing cold and now they feel normal.

I still partly blame nirvana seeds because even in the cold the bud size is appauling and its hillarious, one plant is half the size of another and they are the same strain, grown under the same lights, same nutes everything yet one is double the height. Cant say the most consistent plant!

[Charbud]

This is kind of late given it's already flowering, but you could probably still do this.

Take the plant that you consider the slowest growing.
Was the pot it's in the last one you filled with soil?
Turn it upside down and pull it out of it's pot and look at it's root structure. Don't be afraid to wash the soil out of the root system so that you can get a good look at them.
-Are they balled up in a little spot and not extended throughout the pot, i.e. when you take the pot off, does half of the dirt stay stuck in the bottom of the pot with no roots in it at all?

-if you take the pot off and the roots are a healthy white growing thickly throughout the soil, somewhat heavier at the bottom; put the pot back on the root ball, and set it back in it's floodpan, and dump a little bit of water on it. What I'm thinking is going on isn't it.



I think roots, man.


High mate, the roots may have got cold but they are in good shape, i checked them out and they look pretty normal. I think they would find it hard to get rootbound considering their size. I might top them up with a bit of soil though so they feel like they got a bit of extra space...cheers

[Charbud]

Another thing phatjay, want to have a little comp ? who can get the most bud of a plant grown in a little white party cup ? Was going to do it anyway for my next grow for a laugh, would be great to see your results. Char

[PhatJay]

Ye i think i chose sum pretty shitty strains to be honest. I get bowled over my the descriptions and the names which get me all excited and so i have to grow them and i never research the strains. Oh well, learnt my lesson now ! And yes high yielding is the idea for the next grow! sticking with barneys seeds, definately didnt fail me with the vanilla kush.

I don't think the strains you picked were bad, it just seems to me that the most potent strains tend to have much smaller yields. I personally don't think the extra strength justifies the weight loss. Especially on small personal grows like ours.


Mate that bonsai is nuts. I still dont get how you yield so much bud of your girls using cfls.. i got an oz of my vanilla kush which was an lst, vegged for 5 weeks or something and you can do that with a bonsai plant ! madness..what strain was it ? good smoke ? anything on the go at the moment ?

It was the same strain I used in my 1st 2 grows, I reckon I would have got over the ounce but the cuttings came with thrips, which probably reduced the crop. It is a good yielder and a really nice smoke, but it is very spindly and collapses under the weight of the buds.I decided to go with better genetics this time round cos I was having to use string to hold the branches/buds up. I have also moved up to 2x250w instead of the 125's.

I am growing 4 White Rhino from Greenhouse Seeds atm. The quality of the genetics is mind blowing, they look amazing. I also have another bonsai on the go, also WR but from a cutting (the genetics are nowhere near as good as the ones from GH).


Another thing phatjay, want to have a little comp ? who can get the most bud of a plant grown in a little white party cup ? Was going to do it anyway for my next grow for a laugh, would be great to see your results. Char

That sounds like fun :thumbsup: I'm up for that. If you are planning to grow bonsai, I think you need to grow from cuttings instead of seeds. The plants that grow from seeds take time to sexually mature and you have to wait until the nodes start alternating before you can consider going into flower. Cuttings are ready to go once they have a few leaves/nodes.

[Charbud]

I don't think the strains you picked were bad, it just seems to me that the most potent strains tend to have much smaller yields. I personally don't think the extra strength justifies the weight loss. Especially on small personal grows like ours.

I have to agree with you there although i do like weed that can make me take a seat ! I also like to try as many strains as possible, i find the names really enticing but ye im going to do more research...for example i found my cream caramel seed under the high yield section of the website i buy my seeds from..suprise suprise !!




It was the same strain I used in my 1st 2 grows, I reckon I would have got over the ounce but the cuttings came with thrips, which probably reduced the crop. It is a good yielder and a really nice smoke, but it is very spindly and collapses under the weight of the buds.I decided to go with better genetics this time round cos I was having to use string to hold the branches/buds up. I have also moved up to 2x250w instead of the 125's.

Nice to see the move from 125s to 250s, only better things could come of that. I think i might replace one of my bulbs because apparently the deteriorate over time, like the lumens get lower ? and ive used it for 2 grows so may buy a new one after this one. Thrips ?? Im guessing a disease that you had to cut off but sorry to hear that either way...loss of weight is never a gudden. What was the strain you used ? sorry if you have told me already..bad memory..but it has definitely done you well from what i have seen !


I am growing 4 White Rhino from Greenhouse Seeds atm. The quality of the genetics is mind blowing, they look amazing. I also have another bonsai on the go, also WR but from a cutting (the genetics are nowhere near as good as the ones from GH).

I do think the more money you spend on the seeds definately helps. Like my vanilla kush was about 6.50, not breaking the bank but from a quality seed bank as are yours. That white rhino will be nice, i had some super lemon haze from greenhouse when i was in amsterdam...dropped half the spliff in the while rolling it but didnt want to waste anymore so i just rolled what was left..blew me away...v.potent. getting a bit ahead of myself but i was thinking next grow 4 x white skunk, [pineapple chunk, violator kush, blue cheese] - barneys and silver bubble. Do you rekon it would be better to focus on 4 like you do and go for higher yield ? My logic behind the 8 plants is to have 4 nice strains then 4 cheap plants to make give me some quanitity...think its going to back fire this time round but whats your opinion ? maybe 2 pineapple 2 violator or just 4 of all the same ?




That sounds like fun :thumbsup: I'm up for that. If you are planning to grow bonsai, I think you need to grow from cuttings instead of seeds. The plants that grow from seeds take time to sexually mature and you have to wait until the nodes start alternating before you can consider going into flower. Cuttings are ready to go once they have a few leaves/nodes.

This is true but i havent got space for a mother and to make clones. Hopefully in the future i will but atm not really an option. They wouldnt have to be bonsai, well obviously small but more to do with the tiny pot and how the roots react and it must just look really weird..! But yeh, im looking forward to that aswell, probably more so than my other plans :rastasmoke:

[PhatJay]

I think i might replace one of my bulbs because apparently the deteriorate over time, like the lumens get lower ? and ive used it for 2 grows so may buy a new one after this one.

Yeah they do deteriorate and so do other types of bulbs.

"CFLs produce less light later in their lives than when they are new. The light output decay is exponential, with the fastest losses being soon after the lamp is first used. By the end of their lives, CFLs can be expected to produce 70â??80% of their original light output" (taken from wikipedia).

I plan to use mine for at least half of their 10,000 hour life. But I'm a tight ass when it comes to money.



Thrips ?? Im guessing a disease that you had to cut off but sorry to hear that either way...loss of weight is never a gudden. What was the strain you used ? sorry if you have told me already..bad memory..but it has definitely done you well from what i have seen !

Thrips are little bugs that suck the sap of plants, they were pretty easy to get rid of tbh. The strain was of unknown origin. The genetic line is dead now, so even if I wanted to, I can't grow that strain again.


getting a bit ahead of myself but i was thinking next grow 4 x white skunk, [pineapple chunk, violator kush, blue cheese] - barneys and silver bubble. Do you rekon it would be better to focus on 4 like you do and go for higher yield ? My logic behind the 8 plants is to have 4 nice strains then 4 cheap plants to make give me some quanitity...think its going to back fire this time round but whats your opinion ? maybe 2 pineapple 2 violator or just 4 of all the same ?

I think it is going to be down to personal choice, but growing a mix of high yielding and high potency plants seems like a good idea to me. Growing in pots means you can easily negate problems like different heights or the different nutrient needs, so mixing the varieties isn't going to give you any major problems. I want to be able to grow enough so that I don't have to buy weed anymore. Because I have limited space and lighting that means high yielders for me. I guess it also depends on how much you smoke.

I do intend to try "fancier" strains in the future because I really like fruity weed. I'm thinking a good old fashioned Grapefruit or a Strawberry cough (I have tried lemon haze - smells nice but I didn't like the taste). I am happy with the hit I get from so called "B" strains (they were A strains not that many years ago).

[Charbud]

Yeah they do deteriorate and so do other types of bulbs.

"CFLs produce less light later in their lives than when they are new. The light output decay is exponential, with the fastest losses being soon after the lamp is first used. By the end of their lives, CFLs can be expected to produce 70â??80% of their original light output" (taken from wikipedia).

I plan to use mine for at least half of their 10,000 hour life. But I'm a tight ass when it comes to money.




[quote=PhatJay]Thrips are little bugs that suck the sap of plants, they were pretty easy to get rid of tbh. The strain was of unknown origin. The genetic line is dead now, so even if I wanted to, I can't grow that strain again.

Sad that you didnt know. She definitely served you well !




I think it is going to be down to personal choice, but growing a mix of high yielding and high potency plants seems like a good idea to me. Growing in pots means you can easily negate problems like different heights or the different nutrient needs, so mixing the varieties isn't going to give you any major problems. I want to be able to grow enough so that I don't have to buy weed anymore. Because I have limited space and lighting that means high yielders for me. I guess it also depends on how much you smoke.

Ye same, i would like to grow enough that i dont have to buy any but that requires constant growing which i do plan to do. Im looking for high yielders now, definitely seems like the best idea. The only problem with growing so many plants at once is that they all grow into each other so the leaves at the top block light getting to lower down the plant. Similair to the rainforest i suppose, the canopy stopping sunlight reaching the ground. So im thinking maybe 4 next time so the light can penetrate further. Going to get 2 from barneys and 2 from greenhouse so they should be pretty solid i nterms of genetics.


I do intend to try "fancier" strains in the future because I really like fruity weed. I'm thinking a good old fashioned Grapefruit or a Strawberry cough (I have tried lemon haze - smells nice but I didn't like the taste). I am happy with the hit I get from so called "B" strains (they were A strains not that many years ago).

I also like fruity weed. I also had strawberry cough in dam, nice high to have during the day, not too heavy. I do hear that its very gangly and grows all over the place so many an lst or something ? I would prefer to have more of a b strain than a smaller amount of an a strain. Sometime a strains are just a bit too much...like having a shot of vodka or having a shot of absinthe !

[bullyslayer]

tell me if i got this right----2 to 3 weeks after your beans sprout you transplanted into compost/perlite and moved them into a cold drafty loft and started flowering.you've allowed them to set in their waste water and have been checking PH with a cheap dollar store meter.your yields are low and growth is slow and you want to know why. does this sum it up???

[PhatJay]

tell me if i got this right----2 to 3 weeks after your beans sprout you transplanted into compost/perlite and moved them into a cold drafty loft and started flowering.you've allowed them to set in their waste water and have been checking PH with a cheap dollar store meter.your yields are low and growth is slow and you want to know why. does this sum it up???

CONGRATULATIONS! You have won asshole of the week.

(your medal will be mailed to you shortly, so you can show it off at parties)

:D

[bullyslayer]

CONGRATULATIONS! You have won asshole of the week.

(your medal will be mailed to you shortly, so you can show it off at parties)

:D i thought only the OP could give out awards ? what about my post has offended you PHATJAY??? before WE can help CHARBUD it is necessary to understand his situation.

[PhatJay]

i thought only the OP could give out awards ? what about my post has offended you PHATJAY??? before WE can help CHARBUD it is necessary to understand his situation.


It came across as a bit snarky, If I have misunderstood the tone of your post I apologise and will rescind your award. But please bear in mind before you refuse it, that it is a solid steel medal and comes with a multicolored ribbon so you can hang it around your neck.

[bullyslayer]

It came across as a bit snarky, If I have misunderstood the tone of your post I apologise and will rescind your award. But please bear in mind before you refuse it, that it is a solid steel medal and comes with a multicolored ribbon so you can hang it around your neck.
ok well i googled snarky and it does seem to define my post so no need to apologise nor recind award . no medal though it sounds very nice but i'm not into bling or bragging.i will try to be more respectful in future posts. i sorry.my advice to charbud----do not let your plants set in the runoff water and find a better way to check the ph of the liquids going into and coming out of your pots.even swimming pool test strips would be better than what you have now.having the proper PH is the MOST IMPORTANT adjustment you can make to the liquid going into your pots so get the best test[er] your budget affords you.

[Charbud]

bullslayer dont try and be a prick when your a nobody on this forum. Atleast be a respected member of the forum before thinking that you can post stuff like that.

[bullyslayer]

well i guess i missed that in the TOS charbud but when i read about you torturing those poor babies and then blaming the breeder i just had to say something.it breaks my heart to see them treated so badly .so----have you thought about my advice to you? got a good ph tester yet?

[genuine]

[quote=Charbud]Ye i think i chose sum pretty shitty strains to be honest. I get bowled over my the descriptions and the names which get me all excited and so i have to grow them and i never research the strains. Oh well, learnt my lesson now ! And yes high yielding is the idea for the next grow! sticking with barneys seeds, definately didnt fail me with the vanilla kush.


Glad to see that I am not the only fool to do this....

For as few plants as I have, especially those in F zone...no one should have as many different strains going as I do. I use different colored duct tape to keep them identified and seperate, and I'm running out of colors.

Had mid summer catastrophe where lost near everything, but before that I had. Cheese, Power Plant, Church, WOS Brazilliian, Jack47, and a Sam freebie strain. Now I'm tying to rebuild the first four, plus a rockloc...from single seeds kept as security. Plus a Fruity Haze.

[genuine]

also: WOS big budx n. lights

My thoughts on strain.

Favorite for the whole. That of growth per plant, easy trim, flavor, high that suits me....= Power Plant.


strongest, knock brain to next county= jack47. She also produced the most weight per heigth plant of any in 9 wk flower. I didn't like the taste, but was a good strain to mix with another...like the earthy, less cerebral, more body feel WOS Brazilian.

Church, in same family as strawberry cough you mention. Love taste, and the high (and the fact it's the only one to have survived summer devistation and so I've got clone..), but slow to grow, and much lower bud to plant height ratio in 9wks.

Cheese: Grows well, easy to clone, vigorous, good bud size production, easy to trim, good taste. Not the high I like. Great bug to gift though....looks pretty.

I have yet to taste the WOS big budx n.lights, fruity haze, rocklock (growing like shit).

And in reading the whole of postings. I atleast am motivated to suink down the $$ for a good oakton pH meter. Or atleast use my disposable Hanna to try to test my pH soil run-off ect. AND try to figure a new soil/mix towards eliminating liquid nutes.....

[Charbud]

well i guess i missed that in the TOS charbud but when i read about you torturing those poor babies and then blaming the breeder i just had to say something.it breaks my heart to see them treated so badly .so----have you thought about my advice to you? got a good ph tester yet?

Nirvana do notoriously produce bad seeds. Ive seen many people say it. I doubt you even read the tos but on this forum people arent pricks to each other and everyone has a mutual respect for each other no matter what their grow ability. You got nothing to show on this forum so therefore your credibility to me is nothing. Probs one of those people who read about growing but never got the balls to do it. Either way...you do not belong here..the forums do not accept people like you..i can tell you that for sure :D

[Charbud]

[quote=Charbud]Ye i think i chose sum pretty shitty strains to be honest. I get bowled over my the descriptions and the names which get me all excited and so i have to grow them and i never research the strains. Oh well, learnt my lesson now ! And yes high yielding is the idea for the next grow! sticking with barneys seeds, definately didnt fail me with the vanilla kush.


Glad to see that I am not the only fool to do this....

For as few plants as I have, especially those in F zone...no one should have as many different strains going as I do. I use different colored duct tape to keep them identified and seperate, and I'm running out of colors.

Had mid summer catastrophe where lost near everything, but before that I had. Cheese, Power Plant, Church, WOS Brazilliian, Jack47, and a Sam freebie strain. Now I'm tying to rebuild the first four, plus a rockloc...from single seeds kept as security. Plus a Fruity Haze.

Yeh its not a good idea. Hard to focus on each of their individual needs and solve problems. Defo not going to do it again and you certainly have got a lot going on !!!


also: WOS big budx n. lights

My thoughts on strain.

Favorite for the whole. That of growth per plant, easy trim, flavor, high that suits me....= Power Plant.


strongest, knock brain to next county= jack47. She also produced the most weight per heigth plant of any in 9 wk flower. I didn't like the taste, but was a good strain to mix with another...like the earthy, less cerebral, more body feel WOS Brazilian.

Church, in same family as strawberry cough you mention. Love taste, and the high (and the fact it's the only one to have survived summer devistation and so I've got clone..), but slow to grow, and much lower bud to plant height ratio in 9wks.

Cheese: Grows well, easy to clone, vigorous, good bud size production, easy to trim, good taste. Not the high I like. Great bug to gift though....looks pretty.

I have yet to taste the WOS big budx n.lights, fruity haze, rocklock (growing like shit).

And in reading the whole of postings. I atleast am motivated to suink down the $$ for a good oakton pH meter. Or atleast use my disposable Hanna to try to test my pH soil run-off ect. AND try to figure a new soil/mix towards eliminating liquid nutes.....

Cheese is the strain which the girls love the smell off. Ive never had curch or jack47 but if it doesnt taste nice i would be hesitant to grow it. Yield is very important but maybe not so if it doesnt taste so good ! Strawberry cough is a wonderful strain...i would love to grow it but its stretchy and low yielding tendencies dont suit my needs even though it is one of my faves.
Cheers for that man. Its appreicated. :rastasmoke:

[Charbud]

and cheers phatjay for letting that ass know hes an ass. Appreciated bud

[PhatJay]

Favorite for the whole. That of growth per plant, easy trim, flavor, high that suits me....= Power Plant.

Funny you mention that strain, I have access to cuttings of PP and was thinking of trying it out in the future. It's mainly sativa with a cerebral high and a high yield afair.


and cheers phatjay for letting that ass know hes an ass. Appreciated bud

No worries mate. I thought his attitude was a bit uncalled for and I couldn't let it pass, without giving my opinion.

[bullyslayer]

Nirvana do notoriously produce bad seeds. Ive seen many people say it. I doubt you even read the tos but on this forum people arent pricks to each other and everyone has a mutual respect for each other no matter what their grow ability. You got nothing to show on this forum so therefore your credibility to me is nothing. Probs one of those people who read about growing but never got the balls to do it. Either way...you do not belong here..the forums do not accept people like you..i can tell you that for sure :Dsooo---your not going to get a good PH test kit or tester?? can you be a little more clear about what your trying to say ??400+ posts and you still can't grow weed ?? :D

[Rusty Trichome]

I think both points have been made, and if all you're going to do is push each other's buttons with every posting, someone is likely to step-in and start dishing-out some bad rep. and a time-out or two.

Bullslayer...If all you can do is inflame and insult, I think it's time you unsubscribe from this thread and back-off. You came into this thread with a "snarky" attitude and a 'you're a stupid punk' approach, so it's no wonder that established members in here are having a problem with your bullshit.

I'm not a mod and hold no weight in here, but I can recommend that you either get along with the membership, or be reported and let the chips fall where they may. However...it's a real bitch to establish street-cred in here while riding-out a ban because if anti-social behaviors directed at the membership. Seems you have decided to stand-up and stick-out like a sore thumb, without paying the price of experience, accuracy, longevity nor the willingness to get along with your peers.

So Bullslayer...the ball is in your court. Either continue being a sophmoric punk that nobody learns from, or you can be a creative and knowledgable source of information and healing. Which path are you puting yourself on...?

[Charbud]

Rusty tells it how it is. :D

[bullyslayer]

I think both points have been made, and if all you're going to do is push each other's buttons with every posting, someone is likely to step-in and start dishing-out some bad rep. and a time-out or two.

Bullslayer...If all you can do is inflame and insult, I think it's time you unsubscribe from this thread and back-off. You came into this thread with a "snarky" attitude and a 'you're a stupid punk' approach, so it's no wonder that established members in here are having a problem with your bullshit.

I'm not a mod and hold no weight in here, but I can recommend that you either get along with the membership, or be reported and let the chips fall where they may. However...it's a real bitch to establish street-cred in here while riding-out a ban because if anti-social behaviors directed at the membership. Seems you have decided to stand-up and stick-out like a sore thumb, without paying the price of experience, accuracy, longevity nor the willingness to get along with your peers.

So Bullslayer...the ball is in your court. Either continue being a sophmoric punk that nobody learns from, or you can be a creative and knowledgable source of information and healing. Which path are you puting yourself on...?sure thing rusty ,see you around

[Rusty Trichome]

We'll be here. :jointsmile:

[Charbud]

grow log now here http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/193380-papaya-cream-caramel-arjans-strawberry-haze-lsd-bubble-cheese-cfl-grow.html