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beachbum8391
11-19-2010, 02:44 AM
two month old plant has leaves turning yellow only on the armpit leaves not the fan leaves any clue what i can do??

Weezard
11-19-2010, 03:20 AM
two month old plant has leaves turning yellow only on the armpit leaves not the fan leaves any clue what i can do??

You can fill out the questionaire in the troubleshooting area for starters.:)
That will get you useful responses.

And, you could post this message in the sick plants area.
That will reach the folks you need to ask.

This is for indoor growing, lighting, nutrients, yield, etc.

In short, prime da pump.


All I can tell you from this post is, if by "armpit leaves", you mean new growth, that would mean the damage is recent.
That begs the question;
What's the last thing you did to her?

He'p us, he'p you.

Aloha,
Weezard

Rusty Trichome
11-19-2010, 01:29 PM
Quit stripping off the fan leaves. The plant needs them for energy (photosynthesis) and they're a storehouse for mobile nutrients.

Provide a photo with a completed troubleshooting form. The more info you provide, the better the diagnosis. (theoretically)

beachbum8391
11-19-2010, 05:24 PM
Thanks for the input i can use all the help i can get. I will post pictures maybe that can help more

WashougalWonder
11-20-2010, 01:11 PM
Fill out the flipping form, that is just as important as the pictures.

Rusty Trichome
11-20-2010, 01:52 PM
How's the mouth doing, Washougal?
Hopefully the rest of the dental work will go a tad smoother. :thumbsup:

beachbum: The more info you provide, the better the diagnosis and treatment plan will be. Copy-n-paste the correct troubleshooting form here, (there's one for hydro, one for soil) and fill it out. Since the plants that are suffering are yours...the ball is in your court.

Or...procrastinate, do nothing, and hope they recover on their own. If this is the case, prayer and fasting may or may not help...:jointsmile:

beachbum8391
11-21-2010, 12:39 AM
What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...)

Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. (LED 180w)
.2) Distance from tops? 5inches
.3) Reflector type? (Enclosed Reflector.)
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? Fan and air vents
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? No, Just a circulation fan
.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? Two 90w UFOâ??s,?, 18 hours light 6 hours dark.

Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil, (Organic Miracle grow soil) and anything you've added to it. (No)
.8) Size of container. 4 Gallon
.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings? Germinated the seeds.

Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? (Tap) What's it's ph before adjusting? Not sure
11) Method of checking water ph. (Donâ??t have a PH tester yet.)
12) Method of adjusting water ph. (Havenâ??t had to adjust yet...)
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule.
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering? Every 3 to 4 days. Foliar and soil drenching
15) Any additives or tea's? (No)
16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate? Not sure
17) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph?
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray? Yes every 4 days and at 1am when the dark cycle ends

Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors? Indoor
20) What size of closet, room or hut? 6x4
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off? 68on and 64 off
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom? Yes mostly nats

Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?)Indica(Black Domina)
24) From seeds or clones? Seeds
25) Is this an autoflower strain? No

GetThisOrDie
11-21-2010, 02:04 AM
Damn..

Ok do your plants have fresh air? I see that you dont have an exhaust fan... plants need "new" fresh air to thrive.

Also you need a way to check and adjust your PH. It can be hell to try and grow without being able to control the ph.

I dont do the whole foliar feed thing but if you are spraying your plants right before bed it will cause a big spike in overnight humidity, which can lead to nasty things such as evil bud rot.

Also your temps are a bit cool. Try getting them up to around 75F for better results.

WashougalWonder
11-21-2010, 01:50 PM
How's the mouth doing, Washougal?
Hopefully the rest of the dental work will go a tad smoother. :thumbsup:

beachbum:
Sorry I was so curt, had a root canal go bad and had to have the tooth taken out in pieces and not feeling so good, please accept my apology.

Rusty, getting better but having to take vast amounts of narcotics, cannabis is little help on this type of pain unfortunately.

bigsby
11-21-2010, 03:12 PM
The first issue you need to deal with the pH of the soil and water. Otherwise you are flying blind. pH issues will ruin your grow and quick. Seriously, don't waste your time. A good pH pen is $20.

Other issues:

You should not start in big pots. See the link in my signature for some info on the importance of repotting. If you are growing hydro then this is not an issue.

Don't over water. Better to underwater than over water.

More information needed on your LED to comment. Likely this light will do well for veg. Unless it is a quality LED it will not take you through flower and even if it is quality you will benefit from additional lighting.

beachbum8391
11-21-2010, 07:02 PM
WashougalWonder of course i accept your apology and i'm sorry to hear about your dental mishap. I'm adding another 90w light and buying a ph pen today, as far as fresh air i have just been using the ac circulation in the house through the vents and use circulation fans. i also turned the heat on at 74 degrees.

beachbum8391
01-16-2011, 09:43 PM
I want to add more light during flowering. Is that ok to do?

Dexter007
01-16-2011, 11:45 PM
two month old plant has leaves turning yellow only on the armpit leaves not the fan leaves any clue what i can do??

im not gonna reply what everybody else said BUT check that you didnt over water it or over feed them.same thing happend with my mate and the problem was he was butting to much feed and nutrients.and some how it started to kill the plant SLOWLY:mad:,but the he just re plant it and after a week it was getting heltier and heltier=D hope that was any help at all

Weezard
01-17-2011, 12:17 AM
I want to add more light during flowering. Is that ok to do?


Extra light during on-time? :thumbsup::cool:


Extra hours of light?

No simple answer.
Some strains can do 13/11 and stay in flower once it has begun.
Some strains need more than 12 hrs of darkness to finish well.
Also the nature and intensity of your light will affect the amount of dark time required. Just not as much as the genetics will.

Do you know the preferences of the Black Domina?

@Dexter;
Good answer!
Over-fert is consistent with the symptoms.
It screws up the PH and the plant can't feed. :)

Aloha,
Weeze

beachbum8391
01-17-2011, 12:35 AM
Oh i meant keeping them on 12/12 but adding another LED Light. Can i do that while Flowering?

Weezard
01-17-2011, 12:47 AM
Sure, have at it!
More 660nm = fatter colas
Just don't keep them too close.
I see you have 180W.

If they are 1W. emitters, 5 inches is fine.
With most, knock-off UFOs 2" is good.
When using 3 - 5W. emitters, double the distance to the crown to avoid "bleaching" and growth suppression.

There actually is such a thing as too much light.
With white light, it's around 91k lux.
With dichroic led light it's a bit less because the plant absorbs more photons and reflects/passes less.

Shine on!
Weeze

Dexter007
01-17-2011, 12:54 AM
Oh i meant keeping them on 12/12 but adding another LED Light. Can i do that while Flowering?

why going for LED.i would add CFL...theres plenty of videos CFL V LED and CFL is the WINNER...and same way if your checking any of forums you will get the same answer..thats why i went for CFL ,,great in small enaugh areas:stoned:

Dexter007
01-17-2011, 01:00 AM
and same way,for your size closet.the best vent would be 4inch fan ,4elbows and some 40 mill pipe..make a square inside around the closet and connect it to fan,i use duck tape..AND dont forget to dril hundreds of small holes in the pipes and stick that 1 feet higer than the light..trust me its a miracle vent..small rooms ,tents closets works 110%
just tought ull give you a wee tip..

beachbum8391
01-18-2011, 12:30 AM
Thanks for all the input everyone. I am going to add a 100w led light the one's they say are for flowering?? we'll see how that works. Dexter i am trying an all led just to see how good it is this time but cfl's are very good as well:D

Dexter007
01-18-2011, 01:08 AM
Thanks for all the input everyone. I am going to add a 100w led light the one's they say are for flowering?? we'll see how that works. Dexter i am trying an all led just to see how good it is this time but cfl's are very good as well:D

ok and please let me know how your getting on with LEDs =D

beachbum8391
01-23-2011, 03:17 AM
I Added the 100w Gotham LED light to room and gave them there first water with Tiger Bloom fertilizer. They are starting to flower really nice:rastasmoke:

Weezard
01-23-2011, 06:48 PM
I Added the 100w Gotham LED light to room and gave them there first water with Tiger Bloom fertilizer. They are starting to flower really nice:rastasmoke:

Aloha, BB

Just crawled all over Gotham's web site.
Can not find anything bigger than 38W. droplight.
And the "bat signal" was an arc light.;)

Could you elaborate on your addition?

Mahalo,
Weeze

beachbum8391
01-23-2011, 08:18 PM
Yeah i Found this light on ebay and did a little bit of looking into but here is a video to show you. YouTube - Video 41 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM85h-9D7S0&feature=player_embedded). Tell me what do you think

Weezard
01-23-2011, 11:22 PM
Yeah i Found this light on ebay and did a little bit of looking into but here is a video to show you. YouTube - Video 41 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM85h-9D7S0&feature=player_embedded). Tell me what do you think


I think the tester was obviously biased as he transparently fudged by rounding one up and the other down.
Quite un-necessary too, as the Blackstar is a much stronger light.
A few re-takes and lot's of post production editing is in order.

I'm just sayin', a more professional video would impress the more critical viewers.

Well, you asked what I thought.:D

Aloha,
Weeze