View Full Version : selling/donating overage to dispensaries.
barbear
11-17-2010, 12:38 AM
I am a designated provider for a medical patient (bonafied), and have been growing for her for about 9 months. I understand that she can sell/donate the overage of the crops I grow for her to the local dispensaries here in Spokane. What are the mechanics of this transactio?. Do they add her name to their list of contributors and when they get busted, she gets busted too? Don't want that to happen so - how does it work????
tango244ns
11-17-2010, 01:23 AM
seems like now a days, all dispensarys have their own policys on MMJ..She would have to contact the disp. and ask what there policys are. Most of the time you must go and yalk to them in person. Some disp. may not take it if it does meet there standards...so on and so on....:rasta::jointsmile:
also depends on what you want for it in contributions......
mugenbao
11-17-2010, 02:29 AM
I don't think there is an easy answer for this question, since dispensaries aren't strictly legal in Washington, and there aren't any provisions for them in the existing medical marijuana laws. Each one will likely have a different policy.
I don't even think there are any dispensaries near my area, so it's not even an option for me.
killerweed420
11-17-2010, 06:45 AM
A reputable dispensary, if there is such a thing, will conduct the transaction in cash and no names of growers will be put on paper for tax purposes. They can't declare the purchase of cannabis on there taxes because its illegal federally. They have to be very creative in the bookeeping to try and get some write offs for tax purposes, relatively easy to do.
WashougalWonder
11-17-2010, 01:01 PM
Maybe before we get all caught up in full legalization and the gray area of dispensaries, we work to get dispensaries legalized and licensed by the City/County of the location. As was stated, dispensaries are specifically stated in the current law to not be legal. How they can function without getting busted is a very fine line. Too fine for me to participate in.
tango244ns
11-17-2010, 03:33 PM
i agree w/ washougal wonder...keep it simple and dont sell or donate it. Not worth it for me,going to federal prison.....
justpics
11-17-2010, 05:35 PM
As was stated, dispensaries are specifically stated in the current law to not be legal.
which section of the law is that?
AFAIK the reason dispensaries currently operate without being busted is because they have employees/volunteers/members of the organization who act as designated providers to one patient at a time. In that capacity they assist in the medical use of marijuana, through the dispensing of medicine.
That's all spelled out in 69.51A, so I am wondering, which section says specifically, that dispensaries are illegal?
killerweed420
11-17-2010, 07:40 PM
Its a very gray area because it is not spelled out in the law. MMJ is to never be sold and that is happening in dispensaries. We just need to help Sensible Washington with there initiative next year and become the first state in the nation that completely legalizes cannabis and hemp.
justpics
11-18-2010, 07:26 AM
I thought the law set the restrictions of designated providers (DPs) as being;
18 years of age
designated in writing
not to consume the patient's medicine
serving only 1 patient at any one time
if DPs were to remain uncompensated shouldn't that be one of the restrictions the law names?
WashougalWonder
11-18-2010, 12:28 PM
Actually, I liked the wording much better with I1064......It did not legalize it (federal law) but it removed all criminal penalties. First step to legalizing. One single state can not legalize or change a federal law. :wtf: so far :wtf:
That is why 1064 made it as far as it did. This state isn't quite ready to fully legalize, and neither it seems was Cali. But to remove all criminal penalties is just as good in my book and doesn't flaunt into the fed's saying F you.
I don't remember the exact line of the statute for dispensaries, but unless it changed, and I don't think it did, I think dispensaries are just working in a huge gray area and have great risk of being prosecuted in state or federal courts.
I would fear getting busted and not being able to have my meds for the rest of my life.....No thanks. I will stay on the more obvious side of the law. It still isn't 'legal' even with the law.
canshake
11-18-2010, 01:19 PM
Hmmmmm didn't think WA state had disp yet, thought the law didn't pass ....... damn so much out of the loop, lmao....:):jointsmile:
colonuggs
11-21-2010, 06:12 PM
Washington State made Medical MJ legal in 98 but they didnt give you any legal way to purchase the medicene...makes alot of sense huh
heres a website for all despensaries nationwide Seattleking County Medical Marijuana Dispensary (http://legalmarijuanadispensary.com/index.php?option=com_jreviews&Itemid=117&url=Ann-Arbor-Dispensaries/california-dispensaries/seattleking-county-cannabis-clubs_c239_m117/)
killerweed420
11-21-2010, 06:17 PM
Misunderstanding. They did not make MMJ legal. There's a big difference. If it was legal they wouldn't arrest patients. They still arrest them because it only allows for an affirmative defense.
Do not leave it up the legislature to make dispensaries legal. They will do like they have to the rest of the law and hose it up.
916420king
11-21-2010, 11:37 PM
i know that even if your a mmj card hold. you can not still "SELL" your good. the key word in it is. "Trade" and "Donate".
postableme
12-10-2010, 09:22 PM
I don't think there is an easy answer for this question, since dispensaries aren't strictly legal in Washington, and there aren't any provisions for them in the existing medical marijuana laws. Each one will likely have a different policy.
From what I understand of various co-ops/collectives, that's the case.
A reputable dispensary, if there is such a thing, will conduct the transaction in cash and no names of growers will be put on paper for tax purposes.
*nodding* Agreed.
Kyjuan
01-19-2011, 12:00 AM
Before i do any transaction I ask:
That they be 18 years of age
Designated me in writing as there primary caregiver
Copy of there ID and MMJ Card.
I do not consume the patient's medicine
I only serving 1 patient at any one time.
and all info is stored with my lawyer.
Kyjuan
Why would you pay $10 or more for .5g? that's crazy.
WashougalWonder
01-19-2011, 02:16 PM
Maybe before we get all caught up in full legalization and the gray area of dispensaries, we work to get dispensaries legalized and licensed by the City/County of the location. As was stated, dispensaries are specifically stated in the current law to not be legal. How they can function without getting busted is a very fine line. Too fine for me to participate in.
apparently according to my legislator, the statement that they are illegal is incorrect......but he could not show me where it was legal.
hiamps
01-20-2011, 02:29 PM
apparently according to my legislator, the statement that they are illegal is incorrect......but he could not show me where it was legal.
I don't understand that statement. Something is either legal or not, can you get that in writing?
hiamps
01-20-2011, 02:37 PM
I was just looking to show off but, I was offered $225 from a local dispensory and was told that was top tier and the most they would pay for anything. Was told they normally offered $175-$185....
gypski
01-20-2011, 03:28 PM
In the present market $2800-3200 is still a reasonable price. At that range it allows for grading and would cover expenses unless you have overhead a mile high. Like anything else, keep it simple and play it straight. :thumbsup:
In the old days, and lb would disappear overnight sometimes in ozs. :D
Lemonhoko
01-20-2011, 07:47 PM
In the present market $2800-3200 is still a reasonable price. At that range it allows for grading and would cover expenses unless you have overhead a mile high. Like anything else, keep it simple and play it straight. :thumbsup:
In the old days, and lb would disappear overnight sometimes in ozs. :D
To be honest, I think the reasonable rate of exchange to the grower is more like the 3200-4000 per LB range.
Personally, I would rather burn it as incense than to sell my high grade for less than 250 per oz, no matter the amount.
The reason I place the 250 mark on it is because we have a limit. It is far less than Californias limit so naturally, California would be able to produce more plants per grower and that will drive the price down. its all a matter of supply and demand.
Right now I see a boom in the green market in this state, but as soon as things settle the price should all stabilize and be true to the nature of supply.
As Californias outdoor meds reaches the NorthWest, the price always drops in the fall.
For the price to be in the same range as Cali's meds, the supply has to be the same also....and it just aint gonna happen with a 15 plant limit.
~Lem
jamessr
01-20-2011, 08:13 PM
To be honest, I think the reasonable rate of exchange to the grower is more like the 3200-4000 per LB range.
Personally, I would rather burn it as incense than to sell my high grade for less than 250 per oz, no matter the amount.
The reason I place the 250 mark on it is because we have a limit. It is far less than Californias limit so naturally, California would be able to produce more plants per grower and that will drive the price down. its all a matter of supply and demand.
Right now I see a boom in the green market in this state, but as soon as things settle the price should all stabilize and be true to the nature of supply.
As Californias outdoor meds reaches the NorthWest, the price always drops in the fall.
For the price to be in the same range as Cali's meds, the supply has to be the same also....and it just aint gonna happen with a 15 plant limit.
~Lem
Hello lem,
I am interested in the above furthering conversation. Would you please contact me asap. Thanks in advance. or let me know how to contact you.
Jeb sr
jamessr
01-20-2011, 08:28 PM
apparently according to my legislator, the statement that they are illegal is incorrect......but he could not show me where it was legal.
Maybe our legislator is a bit confused. The reason no-one is able to figure it out is not because it is gray area...it's because no punishment has been legislated strictly for dispensaries activities..they are strictly per person legislation..at any one time. No matter how many.
If the legislature did ''not'' specifically identify this '"group'' under legislation as illegal, then it can not be claimed unlawful activity or a ''prohibited'' crime as it is claimed. If one has an authorization, they must be given an aff. def. PERIOD. This is why he couldn't pin point it for you...as you asked him about a ''business'' operation....it's a legal quagmire.
Anything less is does not comport to be within due process of law.
Kyjuan
01-20-2011, 08:55 PM
I keep it simple 10$ a gram nothing more. And that is even for the good stuff. No matter what i grow the over head stays the same or drops. Coast 3,000 on the 1st grow and only 1,100 on the 2nd and 3rd.
Kyjuan
[email protected]
Some of my family doing good, most doing dope. I used to see my momma getting beat down! Is that the real definition of me now? I fell off, back on my feet now headed to the sky, canā??t even see down
jamessr
01-20-2011, 09:22 PM
I keep it simple 10$ a gram nothing more. And that is even for the good stuff. No matter what i grow the over head stays the same or drops. Coast 3,000 on the 1st grow and only 1,100 on the 2nd and 3rd.
Kyjuan
[email protected]
Some of my family doing good, most doing dope. I used to see my momma getting beat down! Is that the real definition of me now? I fell off, back on my feet now headed to the sky, canā??t even see down
Nothing like telling leo on a public forum that your making a great ''profit'' ...hello?
gypski
01-20-2011, 09:53 PM
To be honest, I think the reasonable rate of exchange to the grower is more like the 3200-4000 per LB range.
Personally, I would rather burn it as incense than to sell my high grade for less than 250 per oz, no matter the amount.
The reason I place the 250 mark on it is because we have a limit. It is far less than Californias limit so naturally, California would be able to produce more plants per grower and that will drive the price down. its all a matter of supply and demand.
Right now I see a boom in the green market in this state, but as soon as things settle the price should all stabilize and be true to the nature of supply.
As Californias outdoor meds reaches the NorthWest, the price always drops in the fall.
For the price to be in the same range as Cali's meds, the supply has to be the same also....and it just aint gonna happen with a 15 plant limit.
~Lem
I think $10 a gram is the best unless its really killer, I've smoke your stuff and its at least $3200 an lb. You produce some excellent meds. :thumbsup:
Lemonhoko
01-21-2011, 06:30 AM
Hello lem,
I am interested in the above furthering conversation. Would you please contact me asap. Thanks in advance. or let me know how to contact you.
Jeb sr
Heya Jeb, just send me an email and I will respond with a number, or just send your number in the email and I will call you. Either way works for me.
I usually dont check my email unless I know there is incoming.
[email protected]
~Peace
jamessr
01-22-2011, 03:16 AM
Heya Jeb, just send me an email and I will respond with a number, or just send your number in the email and I will call you. Either way works for me.
I usually dont check my email unless I know there is incoming.
[email protected]
~Peace
Sent my friend.:cool:
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