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SgtBash10
11-15-2010, 03:34 PM
Hi

This is my first post and first time growing, i've had problems with nute burn before but now it seems the next problem is drooping. I'm growing 2 plants I've posted pics bellow, im currently using a 125w blue cfl and a 300w red cfl red they are about 8 weeks from seedling. Both are (greenhouse company) feminised Cheese, They are growing in in bio-bizz allmix soil and i'm using miracle grow once a week. A fan is permanently on within the grow closet, temps sometimes get to 27c but mainly 24-5. Previously had some problems with slight drooping and yellowing but flushing sorted it, I guess this was a nute lock. Tested the ph of water going in and was the same coming out (6.4ph), I take it that this means theres no build up of salts or a nute lock?

They have been set to 12/12 for a few days before these pics were taken:

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This is a real disappointment because about 2-3 days prior to flowering they were doing great after I gave them the flush, so any ideas??? Why are they so droopy, I'm really losing enthusiasm with this shize. I know the obvious thing would be to blame the MG, but surely 1/4 measures of their recommended dose wouldn't have this impact!! plus they seemed to be heading this way before adding any water or nutes.

any help would be greatly appreciated!!

WashougalWonder
11-15-2010, 03:58 PM
Unfortunately it does have that much impact if given too much/often. You look N toxic, but I do not grow with CFL and I cannot give good advice under those light conditions.

Regardless, anyone who can help will want the troubleshoot form answered.

I give my vegetative stage plants NO fertilizer at all, just good potting mix.

Your plants look like they will be fine, but stop giving nutes until someone has a full diagnosis of your issue.

Frankly, I don't see how anyone can really grow under CFL -- I must just be bad at that version of growing. Worth my money for MH or HPS lighting. Best bang for my buck.

SgtBash10
11-15-2010, 05:59 PM
What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...)novice

Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. (MH, HPS, CFL's, tube fluorescents, LED's) CFL 125w blue & 300w red
.2) Distance from tops? 3-4 inches
.3) Reflector type? (cool tube set-up, bat wing, enclosed reflector, bare bulb...) bat wing on the 300w
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? 1 fan
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? no exhaust just circulation fan
.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? 425 watt total, 2700k
Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...) biobizz allmix
.8) Size of container. 1.5 gallon
.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings? no

Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) What's it's ph before adjusting? 6.4 tap
11) Method of checking water ph. (ph pen, test strips, aquarium test kit...) test strips
12) Method of adjusting water ph. (phosphoric acid, white vinegar, hydrated lime, PH Up...) none currently
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule. Miracle grow
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering? every 2-3 days under 500ml per plant
15) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...) no
16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate? yes, although the soil ph meter I have seems to be incorrect, ph of water in and out seems stable
17) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph? 6.4 and out is the same
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray? no

Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors? indoors
20) What size of closet, room or hut? 3ft x 1.5ft closet
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off? 24-7 degrees on 22-4 degrees at night. humidity unknown
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom? occasionally fruit flies

Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?) Greenhouse company cheese
24) From seeds or clones? seeds