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lovemyhens
11-08-2010, 10:46 PM
Now, I have been waiting 3 weeks,4.5 days for the DOH to send me a card and approval to grow, or a letter stating i was declined and why.

I am so nervous that I am going to get denied, or that my mail got lost. Also I was told that since Martinez is elected then I probably won't get my card. Sigh.....it sucks waiting.

Has anyone had to wait the full four weeks? what is the process that they go through for approval? They did cash my 15 dollar check for my production liscense. Does that mean i'm approved, or is that just and application fee?

LOL.....i've been anxious, can you tell....

MimbresValley
11-08-2010, 11:27 PM
haha, no worries, it took about a month for mine to come, I was anxious too!

lovemyhens
11-09-2010, 05:55 AM
Thanks for being so positive, mr. SLAYER......Do you have more useful info that would answer any of my questions that I posted above?
She's not even in office yet......geez...

alfonso2002
11-09-2010, 02:12 PM
you should be seeing your license any day now that they cashed your check is a good thing.

MimbresValley
11-09-2010, 02:14 PM
Thanks for being so positive, mr. SLAYER......Do you have more useful info that would answer any of my questions that I posted above?
She's not even in office yet......geez...:thumbsup::thumbsup:




I am sure you will get your card lovelyhens, Im like 100% positive, and if by chance you are turned down for a ppl,you still would have enough time to get another application in before Martinez even takes office.
When I applied for my ppl it was at the same time as my regular MMJ use card.The regular use card came about a week before the PPL card.

The only reason I can see that you would not be approved is if you possibly didn't include enough information on your PPL application, if that happens I will post up a copy of mine so you have a better idea what they are looking for.

Best Wishes:stoned:

lovemyhens
11-09-2010, 03:54 PM
Mimbers and alfanso....thank you for the positive vibes! A soon as I recieve word from the doh, you guys will be the first to know. Hopefully my ppl is included with my card. Fingers

alfonso2002
11-10-2010, 12:57 AM
Mimbers and alfanso....thank you for the positive vibes! A soon as I recieve word from the doh, you guys will be the first to know. Hopefully my ppl is included with my card. Fingers

Thats not the middle finger by any chance. LOL

lovemyhens
11-10-2010, 01:48 AM
OMG! That was supposed to be "fingers crossed".....lol!
No card today.....*sigh*

MimbresValley
11-10-2010, 01:53 AM
LOL:stoned:
So when you get your card, have you decided what strains you want to grow, and how you will be growing them out?

lovemyhens
11-10-2010, 02:34 AM
MIMBRESVALLEY,

I have been wanting to grow a really nice Sativa, to give me an energetic creative high and a nice indica, for the days i'm really hurting.

I have Jack herer beans i've been holding on to, But from my research it can be quite intense, and may not be what I am looking for.and i wanted to try my hand at god bud. Then there is Kushberry that i am really interested in for its high medicinal cbd content. I want a strain that keeps me from being paranoid, and helps with anxiety.

So in short, I want a daytime high so i can be creative and energetic during the day, and a strain to help with with my painful days (and Nights).

Any suggestions would be great.

I have an extra 250 w metal halide ballasts, due to a reef/fish keeping hobby. (I'm a reefer! pun intended) But as i read and read....hps my be better for flowering. I may start with floros during early vegging, MH during late veging, and if I can afford it, then i will go HPS, for flowering. the medium of choice will be soil.

I hope santa builds me a grow room.

alfonso2002
11-10-2010, 03:25 AM
Lovemyhens you do know that you can get a conversion bulb from mh to hps so you can use the same ballast-- right? Sativa's are slow at flowering take longer .

MimbresValley
11-10-2010, 05:22 AM
Martian Mean Green is hands down my fav sativa, I smoked it at the 2006 cannabis cup, the breeders Don and Aron from D&A genetics.
MMG is suposed to never make a person tired, I smoked it the most while I was there, as it gave me a nice enegertic soaring high.
I have tried some other D&A seeds over here in the US, and it was not as good. Sometimes when growing out seeds it takes a little bit to find the right phenotype you are looking for, as opposed to growing out a clone from strain that is well known.

For instance if you got ten seeds, several may finish later than others, some may be stronger, etc... Shorter/ taller.
Big yield, small yield.

Super Silver Haze is really nice as well, great sativa..
I personally don't like dealing with some sativas, the long flowering time gets to me.

Yes you can start under fluro ad then put under the 250.
Also you can grow out bud under a MH, it might not be as large of a yield, but I have heard several growers saying the quality of bud grown under a MH is slightly better than HPS.(I personally have never tried.)

A lot of different preferences and opinions.
( so many different ways to grow this plant)

alfonso2002
11-10-2010, 06:20 AM
nice input MV

Totah Sam
11-10-2010, 11:47 AM
Thats not the middle finger by any chance. LOL

I was thinking Jazz hands. :D

MimbresValley
11-10-2010, 03:16 PM
I was one of the first 250 people to get cards in new mexico.
And have received my card in the mail twice, the first time was my initial application, the second time was my renewal. Both times it was right around a month, A year sounds totally unbelievable, I bet if you asked Dominick V. Zurlo he would also agree.
:cool:

MimbresValley
11-10-2010, 03:30 PM
For instance, Coolslayer said in this post http://boards.cannabis.com/new-mexico-nm/190534-100-confused-right-now.html#post2144464


My understanding of the situation is that the DOH makes the Producers charge a minimum price so that it will not be FAR lower than street prices because they are worried about patients reselling meds at a profit.



In all honestly that sounded like a bunch of BS to me, So I took the initiative and contacted the DOH medical cannabis program and talked directly to Dominick V. Zurlo,


Here was his response,


""Dear Sir,
The NMDOH does not and has never set the prices for medical cannabis. Each non-profit producer sets their own prices. The NMDOH continues to review and license producer applications in part to increase the supply of medical cannabis to meet patient needs. This process does take time, and ensuring the safety of medication for patients is one of the paramount tasks of the program.

You are correct in that if the NMDOH wanted to keep prices high, it would not issue PPL's, and so the comments from other organizations you have heard do not make any sense with regard to this. At this time, over 1/3 of all patients have PPL's. Also, just as a reminder, at this time, any excess must be turned over to law enforcement for destruction. Giving or selling excess medical cannabis produced by a patient to anyone else is expressly prohibited and illegal.

Thank you,
Dominick V. Zurlo,
Harm Reduction and Medical Cannabis Program Manager
Medical Cannabis Program
1190 St. Francis Dr Suite S-1310
Santa Fe, NM 87505
Medical Cannabis Program - Infectious Disease Bureau (http://nmhealth.org/IDB/medical_cannabis.shtml)""
:jointsmile:

lovemyhens
11-10-2010, 03:39 PM
Lovemyhens you do know that you can get a conversion bulb from mh to hps so you can use the same ballast-- right? Sativa's are slow at flowering take longer .

Yes, I was looking at that last night.....i am definately rethinking my possible future setup, also, I was interested in a grow tent, anyone have any experience with any?

I would like a tent because it would be easier than having my hubby build a room(he takes FOREVER), and I can take it down when needed.

MimbresValley
11-10-2010, 03:45 PM
Buy either a homebox or secret jardin,
I believe those are the two main brands that have not have problems with off gassing.
Same type of off gasing as UGU talks about in this thread.
http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponics/190195-n-g-w-com-1-2-black-blue-hose-toxic-please-read.html

lovemyhens
11-10-2010, 03:48 PM
For instance, Coolslayer said in this post http://boards.cannabis.com/new-mexico-nm/190534-100-confused-right-now.html#post2144464





In all honestly that sounded like a bunch of BS to me, So I took the initiative and contacted the DOH medical cannabis program and talked directly to Dominick V. Zurlo,


Here was his response,


""Dear Sir,
The NMDOH does not and has never set the prices for medical cannabis. Each non-profit producer sets their own prices. The NMDOH continues to review and license producer applications in part to increase the supply of medical cannabis to meet patient needs. This process does take time, and ensuring the safety of medication for patients is one of the paramount tasks of the program.

You are correct in that if the NMDOH wanted to keep prices high, it would not issue PPL's, and so the comments from other organizations you have heard do not make any sense with regard to this. At this time, over 1/3 of all patients have PPL's. Also, just as a reminder, at this time, any excess must be turned over to law enforcement for destruction. Giving or selling excess medical cannabis produced by a patient to anyone else is expressly prohibited and illegal.

Thank you,
Dominick V. Zurlo,
Harm Reduction and Medical Cannabis Program Manager
Medical Cannabis Program
1190 St. Francis Dr Suite S-1310
Santa Fe, NM 87505
Medical Cannabis Program - Infectious Disease Bureau (http://nmhealth.org/IDB/medical_cannabis.shtml)""
:jointsmile:

There are assumptions, and there are facts.....i never believe anything unless there are facts to back it up.

MimbresValley
11-10-2010, 03:53 PM
There are assumptions, and there are facts.....i never believe anything unless there are facts to back it up.

Smart Cookie you are, :thumbsup::D

*edit
On a side note, with all the changes happening in the program, and the fee's that are being pushed by the DOH, I think the prices being charged by the producers are a lot more fair than I originally thought.

lovemyhens
11-10-2010, 05:53 PM
Martian Mean Green is hands down my fav sativa, I smoked it at the 2006 cannabis cup, the breeders Don and Aron from D&A genetics.
MMG is suposed to never make a person tired, I smoked it the most while I was there, as it gave me a nice enegertic soaring high.
I have tried some other D&A seeds over here in the US, and it was not as good. Sometimes when growing out seeds it takes a little bit to find the right phenotype you are looking for, as opposed to growing out a clone from strain that is well known.

For instance if you got ten seeds, several may finish later than others, some may be stronger, etc... Shorter/ taller.
Big yield, small yield.

Super Silver Haze is really nice as well, great sativa..
I personally don't like dealing with some sativas, the long flowering time gets to me.

Yes you can start under fluro ad then put under the 250.
Also you can grow out bud under a MH, it might not be as large of a yield, but I have heard several growers saying the quality of bud grown under a MH is slightly better than HPS.(I personally have never tried.)

A lot of different preferences and opinions.
( so many different ways to grow this plant)

I also researched phenotypes (LAST NIGHT), and I have learned quite a bit about which strains are more stable, and which seed banks have the most stable strain....I was reasearching god bud, and have mixed reviews on the stability of that particular strain. I guess if i'm luck i could have 3 out of ten seeds that have the best qualities of both parents. I think thats how I understood it anyway. Are certian strains more stable than others? or are certian seed banks better than others? hmmm.....

How much longer do sativas take to grow compared to indica?

now to peel away from my computer..........

MimbresValley
11-10-2010, 06:28 PM
Yes seeds can be f1 f2 etc...
I would stay away from fem seeds personally as they have a higher chance of going hermi on you.

And yes some strains are more stable than others, but even with a very stable strain, you will generally end up with a couple different phenotypes.

I like fast flowering indicas that finish in 8-9 weeks, but generally they are the couchlock high, as I like having a staggered harvest.

lets say you had 4 sativa plants, and they take 18 weeks to finish.
If you put all 4 in the flower room at the same time. Legally you could only harvest enough so that when its dry its 6 ounces, in all honesty you probably would end up with more than 6 ounces, at which point you are breaking the law(I know its stupid). And Dom himself says ""Also, just as a reminder, at this time, any excess must be turned over to law enforcement for destruction. Giving or selling excess medical cannabis produced by a patient to anyone else is expressly prohibited and illegal.""



Some sativas can go 18 weeks, I have a white widow pheno right now that takes almost 14 weeks to finish, it was advertised as finishing in 10 weeks.

Have noticed a lot of seed vendors advertising sativa plants as finishing sooner than they really do.


Good luck

lovemyhens
11-11-2010, 01:48 PM
No card as of yesterday...today will be the day.....i can feel it!

MimbresValley
11-11-2010, 02:13 PM
If its not here today, maybe this afternoon write a real polite email to the cannabsi program just inquiring about it.:stoned:

alfonso2002
11-11-2010, 03:15 PM
Hope your right. Have you got all the apps. filled out for the producers that you will buying from? You need to have a few so that if you want to buy clones or meds from them you Have to be registered with them that takes 1-2 weeks. Don't know what area you are in but the only producer that I know of that is selling clones is SWOP in Albuquerque.Karma to you.

lovemyhens
11-11-2010, 06:06 PM
Alfonzo...thanks for tip

Now to the sad part...no mail service today....its a government holiday. :(

alfonso2002
11-11-2010, 11:10 PM
Alfonzo...thanks for tip

Now to the sad part...no mail service today....its a government holiday. :( OH NO did not think of that@#!$$%%^

lovemyhens
11-15-2010, 06:36 AM
i recieved my card on thursday, and i am resering with producers at this time.

My PPL didn't come with the card, nor did i get a denial letter.

So i will keep these fingers crossed.

alfonso2002
11-15-2010, 07:40 AM
YEA!!! you did it . You will be getting your other card soon.un less you live in an apartment or the getto. Not that you can't get one there it is just harder to get .

lovemyhens
11-15-2010, 08:27 AM
Oh...damn.....lol
The side of town I live on is known as , lol and I "quote": Taco Town. Been called that for a very long time...started back when the town was segregated....it just stuck. My letter is going to have a big, fat, and red, "DENIED" stamp across it......just cause I live here....lol jk...i hope

alfonso2002
11-15-2010, 03:18 PM
Wow Taco Town? I have lived in Albuquerque almost all of my life and have never heard of that town or place.I don't think there is that much raceism here.

lovemyhens
11-15-2010, 04:15 PM
alfonso,

No sir, i don't live in albuquerque. I live on the east side of the state, roosevelt county, closer to the Texas Border.

its mostly the hispanics that live on this side that call it that nowadays. Its kinda a pride thing. I don't have an issue with it being called Taco Town. I chose to buy a home on this side of town, its quiet, my nieghbors are older and mind thier business, and theres enough space to raise my chickens (oh man, the chickens make it sound ghetto)


Taco Town isn't what it ussed to be, the long time residence have taken initiative to rebuild this community and fought to have the school on this side of town torn down and rebuilt. It has come a long way from the segregation days. and its getting better every year.

I was more worried about asking a doctor that lived in the area. You see, you can throw a brick in any direction and hit a church....lol. I guess my doctor isn't from these parts....

MimbresValley
11-15-2010, 04:21 PM
yay!
Im sure your ppl will come pretty quickly as well= ).

deserthealer
11-15-2010, 11:03 PM
Yippee!! :jumphappy:

The patient card and the ppl ALWAYS come separately, because they go through different people at the DOH. But it should come soon.... Get registered with all the producers next. :thumbsup:

lovemyhens
11-16-2010, 07:17 AM
:jointsmile:
WOOO HOO!
All registered, and I have my first order being delivered this week.

I thought it was going to be a long process to get some medicine, but I have dealt with the nicest people that did all they could to help me get my medicine fast.

Theres a couple producers i decided i wouldn't register with,either due to having to travel long distances, or not accepting any new patients, which I can totally respect that. I hope to get clones in the future, if i am approved for my PPL.

I am just so happy that all this waiting has paid off! YEEHAW:yippee:

xsnoder
11-16-2010, 08:13 AM
:jointsmile::thumbsup:

alfonso2002
11-17-2010, 06:43 AM
:jointsmile:
WOOO HOO!
All registered, and I have my first order being delivered this week.

I thought it was going to be a long process to get some medicine, but I have dealt with the nicest people that did all they could to help me get my medicine fast.

Theres a couple producers i decided i wouldn't register with,either due to having to travel long distances, or not accepting any new patients, which I can totally respect that. I hope to get clones in the future, if i am approved for my PPL.

I am just so happy that all this waiting has paid off! YEEHAW:yippee:

Boy that was quick of that producer to get you registered they usually take longer to do there approval. But i think most producers just had a harvest and have meds right now

lovemyhens
11-17-2010, 01:21 PM
Boy that was quick of that producer to get you registered they usually take longer to do there approval. But i think most producers just had a harvest and have meds right now
I also expected a long wait, but one particular producer allowed me to apply online, send scanned verification and placce an order. Now the hard part its waiting for my medicine to arrive.

alfonso2002
11-17-2010, 03:56 PM
What strain were you able to get?

lovemyhens
11-17-2010, 04:18 PM
I was able to get big bud, and white russian...

I don't want to expect with either of these, as I was hoping to have a nice daytime smoke, and something for night and/or painful days. anyone have any experience with these strains?

alfonso2002
11-17-2010, 04:42 PM
OK so its Sacred Garden you will like them both.But for what you want I think the White Russian will do you good.

lovemyhens
11-17-2010, 11:25 PM
LOL....i had a feeling you would figure it out. I didn't know if I was to share the producer publicly or not. I guess i am used to my underground ways.

alfonso2002
11-18-2010, 12:16 AM
LOL