Track Prop 19 returns

[gypski]

Starting as the polls close, you should be able to track the returns on Prop 19 here. Ya gotta' believe!!! :thumbsup:

Proposition 19 Map Election Results|November 2, 2010|California Secretary of State (http://vote.sos.ca.gov/maps/ballot-measures/19/)

[boaz]

:greenthumb: cool, i knew this was the place to come for the one election result that i really give a f about. :D c'mon stealth voters, bring it on home. :jointsmile:

[BlueBlazer]

Fantastic link! Thank you. :thumbsup:

[StoneMeadow]

Very cool, gypski...I was looking at this page (http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/ballot-measures/), but your link is even better! :)

[gypski]

Server is getting hit so hard its down. Must be good!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup:

[StoneMeadow]

Yep...their server is well and truly farked! ;)

[middieman440]

watch kcal news its not doing good at all no vote is 20% higher,as the news said the pot prop is going down in flames,bummer

[gypski]

watch kcal news its not doing good at all no vote is 20% higher,as the news said the pot prop is going down in flames,bummer

CNN last posted it at 57% no, 43% yes. If this fails, thank the greedy fucks who don't deserve freedom but LEO up their asses like never before in my opinion. :D

[middieman440]

it went up 45 yes 57 no im watching kcal news but only 10 percent is recorded so theres still a chance

[gypski]

Its gonna be a while. Has San Fran and LA reported yet? Its the big cities that should move it with heavy dem bases.

[middieman440]

i dont know if they have,im trying to find out

[StoneMeadow]

With less than 2 million votes counted, I think it's safe to say that the major coastal cites have not yet reported.

[middieman440]

its over it failed,.56 no 45 yes,the no votes keep getting higher

[gypski]

its over it failed,.56 no 45 yes,the no votes keep getting higher

Can't trust American voters to vote in their own self interest. At least its still medical and we can't give up because prohibition is one big fucking lie that needs to end. :(

[StoneMeadow]

The link I post above is working for me now.

[gypski]

I'm stunned that a society refuses to vote itself one little fucking freedom. Its surely a sign that the society is whipped like fucking dogs and it deserves all the abuse it gets from their elected officials. :wtf:

[iSmoke31307]

"We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fearâ??fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, fear of getting down-sized or fired because of the plunging economy, fear of getting evicted for bad debts or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer."


- Hunter S. Thompson.


Wonder what HE would think about this.



This probably set back nation wide legalization 10 years.

[Ub3rB0ng]

power to the sheeple in this election.

[BlueBlazer]

It is disappointing, but just having a prop on the ballet is historical and the nay vote was not overwhelming. In the end, I think the issue wasn't whether to legalize cannabis, but rather how to legalize it. I wanted to see this pass, however, I acknowledge that the prop was poorly written and slanted towards big growers. I'm not surprised that mom and pop operations voted against it to protect their own interests.

This whole vote has created a nation-wide debate that carries much more legitimacy than ever before. The stage is set for a new prop on the 2012 ballot . . . maybe next time by more states that just California.

In the meantime, I'm moving to Holland. (I wish)

[helpinOG]

Thank the lord!! I woulda shit a brick if this garbage passed. Anyone look at the pro's and con's of this bill? You call us greedy, but you're just ignorant. Read the Bill and you'll realize why it didn't pass. The MMJ laws are TEN TIMES BETTER. :rastasmoke:

[toldyaso1]

Thank the lord!! I woulda shit a brick if this garbage passed. Anyone look at the pro's and con's of this bill? You call us greedy, but you're just ignorant. Read the Bill and you'll realize why it didn't pass. The MMJ laws are TEN TIMES BETTER. :rastasmoke:

agreed,some never read the shit they support then talk about how brainwashed america is lmao.yea lets pass a bill that really puts the power in the hands of the ones with money and big grow ops.yea lets fuck the mom and pop the ones that put there necks on the line all this time when it was'nt easy to do so.piss on them huh.heck the big cali money got it done in colorado why not cali? they pissed all over the lil guy in colorado the ones that were helping people.now it's just big biz.i don't get how the ones above talk about freedom and greed when that bill would have done just that it would have put tons of money in places it has no place being.idk call me crazy but i thought free liberal hippy people were supposed to support the mom and pops not BIG gov?

[stra8outtaWeed]

the vote was not against cannabis but against more government control over us....get the prop written correctly and it will pass :thumbsup:

[BlueBlazer]

agreed,some never read the shit they support then talk about how brainwashed america is lmao.yea lets pass a bill that really puts the power in the hands of the ones with money and big grow ops.yea lets fuck the mom and pop the ones that put there necks on the line all this time when it was'nt easy to do so.piss on them huh.heck the big cali money got it done in colorado why not cali? they pissed all over the lil guy in colorado the ones that were helping people.now it's just big biz.i don't get how the ones above talk about freedom and greed when that bill would have done just that it would have put tons of money in places it has no place being.idk call me crazy but i thought free liberal hippy people were supposed to support the mom and pops not BIG gov?

Heh, I don't know if I'm a free liberal hippie, but you are correct that I'd hate to see the livelihood of regular folks destroyed by big business. I'm old and jaded enough to believe that is the ultimate fate of cannabis regardless of how a bill is written.

I think most folks just wanted a state to legalize. Everyone is so sick of the national farce of the war on cannabis.

I had a dream that California would pass this, the tax revenue would bail out the government, and ultimately begin a domino effect just as with medical cannabis. I knew in my heart that was naive of me.

Most of us are just tired of waiting.

[gypski]

Fuck all of you who failed to give yourself the smallest freedom and then fix the problem. Talk about sheeple, big business could never take over you dumb fucks. :wtf:

[middieman440]

ahh i guess i need to go fake an illness to get a med card...oh man im comeing down with bad head aches!

helpinog maybe some of us like myself dont like the fact that we need to claim we have chronic pain and the only thing that works is weed,just to be able to smoke a joint..

and yea this failed and dont ever think of anything coming close to this ever happening again....thanks again caregivers of california you still get to make your money growing peoples weed for them and charging each person a few hundred bucks for an ounce greedy fucks,and i just hope they the feds bring you down :) in a nice way of course!

[helpinOG]

Fuck all of you who failed to give yourself the smallest freedom and then fix the problem. Talk about sheeple, big business could never take over you dumb fucks. :wtf:


:D Anybody want to smoke a joint and celebrate this morning? I'm gonna roll up some of this DANK Afghan Kush I grew from a clone as a med patient and thank the majority of CA for not being sheep and listening to norml's bullshit. This has somewhat restored my faith in the people, they actually read the bill and realized they were getting the wool pulled over their eyes all in the name of "legalization". Thats not legalization, thats a bunch of bullshit laws so they can stick it in you and break it off. Try, just TRY to think outside of the box for once gypski tweaker.

[gypski]

:D Anybody want to smoke a joint and celebrate this morning? I'm gonna roll up some of this DANK Afghan Kush I grew from a clone as a med patient and thank the majority of CA for not being sheep and listening to norml's bullshit. This has somewhat restored my faith in the people, they actually read the bill and realized they were getting the wool pulled over their eyes all in the name of "legalization". Thats not legalization, thats a bunch of bullshit laws so they can stick it in you and break it off. Try, just TRY to think outside of the box for once gypski tweaker.

Hey ewe, I'll wager you have never been busted nor had your life fucked up over a marijuana charge. So, you go ahead and live in the box you think your thinking outside of. And when they come and haul your ass off to jail, you will know exactly who to blame. Your dumb stupid self. And I left that last line polite. :thumbsup:

[helpinOG]

Hey ewe, I'll wager you have never been busted nor had your life fucked up over a marijuana charge. So, you go ahead and live in the box you think your thinking outside of. And when they come and haul your ass off to jail, you will know exactly who to blame. Your dumb stupid self. And I left that last line polite. :thumbsup:


Calm down young grasshopper. I've caught cultivation charges before but had a good lawyer. :rastasmoke: Then I moved to a legal state. Now quit hating and lets celebrate! :rasta:

[gypski]

Calm down young grasshopper. I've caught cultivation charges before but had a good lawyer. :rastasmoke: Then I moved to a legal state. Now quit hating and lets celebrate! :rasta:

Young grasshopoper, I'm probably twice your juvenile fucking age. And have been busted more times then you. So, when they come and get you again, your good lawyer is going to take all your profits, and you can hang with the gangbangers in San Quentin whose blackmarket you now support. :thumbsup:

[norcalcanni215]

Young grasshopoper, I'm probably twice your juvenile fucking age. And have been busted more times then you. So, when they come and get you again, your good lawyer is going to take all your profits, and you can hang with the gangbangers in San Quentin whose blackmarket you now support. :thumbsup:

man arent you bitter today.. roll one up and mellow out. damn. it didnt pass get over it. if you been busted more then once maybe you should do things a little different lol. personally i voted no. thats my right. and yours to disagree if you choose. i dont care either way. have a ncie day

[gypski]

man arent you bitter today.. roll one up and mellow out. damn. it didnt pass get over it. if you been busted more then once maybe you should do things a little different lol. personally i voted no. thats my right. and yours to disagree if you choose. i dont care either way. have a ncie day

You're right, you used your right to think only of yourself. I hope your neighbor when he gets busted remembers you for that, and comes over and thanks you for it. You have a nice day too. I'm medical, and I will fight to the end if they come after me again, not roll over like you will do. :thumbsup:

[norcalcanni215]

You're right, you used your right to think only of yourself. I hope your neighbor when he gets busted remembers you for that, and comes over and thanks you for it. You have a nice day too. I'm medical, and I will fight to the end if they come after me again, not roll over like you will do. :thumbsup:

im medical as well. and i DO NOT make a living from mj. its was poorly written and when they write a good law ill vote yes on it. all my neighbors are medicasl as well and all voted no. so they have alreay thanked me for it. have a nice day.

[gypski]

im medical as well. and i DO NOT make a living from mj. its was poorly written and when they write a good law ill vote yes on it. all my neighbors are medicasl as well and all voted no. so they have alreay thanked me for it. have a nice day.

Allow me to enlighten you. Benjamin franklin once said, (paraphrase) those who will give up freedom for a modicum of security deserve neither. :cool:

And rest assured, your excuse for failure to even cast a vote for a small iota of freedom and then fix an, as you say, poorly written law, will come back to bit you on the ass. :twocents:

[norcalcanni215]

Allow me to enlighten you. Benjamin franklin once said, (paraphrase) those who will give up freedom for a modicum of security deserve neither. :cool:

And rest assured, your excuse for failure to even cast a vote for a small iota of freedom and then fix an, as you say, poorly written law, will come back to bit you on the ass. :twocents:

while i would like to waste my day on a pointless debate i have to go to work. and frankly its a waste of time. it didnt pass. plain and simple. carry on now. relax a bit. smoke a bowl. whatever you do. but dont stress out to much man. have a good day.

[gypski]

Its shaping up that it seems its the medical people and those who grow for them who helped defeat freedom of choice. I wonder when they look at their neighbor, who just wants to be able to smoke a joint in their home after work to relax, will they think they just threw him to the dogs to protect their freedom, and denied him his? I surely doubt it in this self centered world. :twocents:

[stra8outtaWeed]

maybe your attitude should be more grateful to the voters/residents of California for forging the way for medical MJ...since WE passed the first medical laws of cannabis 13 other states have medical allowances and it is growing.....the law needs to be written better instead of just passing legislation and dealing with the aftermath...we have legal MJ so why would we pass a law more restrictive than the current ones we have on the books....and truly do you think if this really passed the feds would have it tied up in court and would be repealed due to its contradiction of federal law...so what we really did is save taxpayers alot of money in legal costs...if cannabis will ever be truly legal for everyone it must be done at the federal level...then states can vote laws on how to control and tax it...just the same as alcohol :jointsmile:

[middieman440]

^ wasnt prop 19 for that.

[MimbresValley]

Fuck richard lee, but I think the right vote would have been YES!

[gypski]

maybe your attitude should be more grateful to the voters/residents of California for forging the way for medical MJ...since WE passed the first medical laws of cannabis 13 other states have medical allowances and it is growing.....the law needs to be written better instead of just passing legislation and dealing with the aftermath...we have legal MJ so why would we pass a law more restrictive than the current ones we have on the books....and truly do you think if this really passed the feds would have it tied up in court and would be repealed due to its contradiction of federal law...so what we really did is save taxpayers alot of money in legal costs...if cannabis will ever be truly legal for everyone it must be done at the federal level...then states can vote laws on how to control and tax it...just the same as alcohol :jointsmile:

I love your pretzel logic and in honor of that................


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2iPhS2XSnk&feature=related

[boaz]

Fantastic link! Thank you. :thumbsup:

:thumbsup: yeah, that is interesting the way the map turned out. all coastal counties go green except for so cal, mendo, humboldt and del norte. alpine and mono county green. :detective1: can't really blame the nor cal growers, even if they had won all of emerald triangle it looks like they would have still lost to the other half million no votes. look at san berdu county. :eek:

my guess mostly soccer mom's not wanting to "send the wrong message to the kids" or something. oh, well, the voters have spoken, better luck next time. :D somewhere Image Reaper is laughing saying see, I tried to tell you guys, ain't never gonna happen in our life time. :jointsmile: IR, come back and gloat, we miss you bro. :rasta:

thanks for the other links, gypski, about Mass. :smokin: another Free Med State today. and victory in Oregon, too. there is a silver lining, after all. :jointsmile:

[StoneMeadow]

thanks for the other links, gypski, about Mass. :smokin: another Free Med State today. and victory in Oregon, too. there is a silver lining, after all. :jointsmile:

I thought Oregon's Measure 74 was defeated. Did I miss something?

[VapedG13]

ahh i guess i need to go fake an illness to get a med card...oh man im comeing down with bad head aches!

helpinog maybe some of us like myself dont like the fact that we need to claim we have chronic pain and the only thing that works is weed,just to be able to smoke a joint..

and yea this failed and dont ever think of anything coming close to this ever happening again....thanks again caregivers of california you still get to make your money growing peoples weed for them and charging each person a few hundred bucks for an ounce greedy fucks,and i just hope they the feds bring you down :) in a nice way of course!



2012 there will be a better bill.... youll see....alot more will vote yes then:D

In the mean time grow your own....dont ever depend on anyone for your weed... end of story:hippy:

[boaz]

I thought Oregon's Measure 74 was defeated. Did I miss something?

oh, sorry, I was just going by what was on another thread in this forum. I don't really know if it won or not. anyone? I guess I should go to norml's site and see what happened tuesday. :jointsmile:

[boaz]

^ you are correct, Stone. good catch.

www.norml.org (http://www.norml.org/)

In Arizona, voters are narrowly against Proposition 203, the Arizona Medical Marijuana Act, which would permit state-registered patients to obtain cannabis legally from licensed facilities. As of 9am pst, the race still remains too close to call, though Prop. 203 is trailing by less than 7,000 votes, 49.7 percent to 50.3 percent (with 99 percent of precincts reporting). With some 50,000 ballots left to be counted, it could be days before election officials make an official decision, reports the Phoenix New Times. The proposal is sponsored by the Arizona Medical Marijuana Policy Project, an affiliate of the Marijuana Policy Project. Learn more about Proposition 203 here: Welcome! | Arizona Medical Marijuana Policy Project (http://stoparrestingpatients.org/home/).

In South Dakota, voters decided against Measure 13, the South Dakota Safe Access Act, which sought to exempt state criminal penalties for state-authorized patients who possessed marijuana. South Dakota voters had previously rejected a similar proposal in 2006. It is the only state where voters have ever decided against a medical marijuana legalization initiative.

In Oregon, voters decided against Measure 74, The Oregon Regulate Medical Marijuana Supply System Act of 2010, which sought to create state-licensed not-for-profit facilities to assist in the production and distribution of marijuana to qualified patients. Oregon voters initially authorized the physician-authorized use of marijuana in 1998. Several states, including Colorado, New Mexico, and Maine, have enacted statewide regulations licensing the production and dispensing of medical cannabis.

...

Finally, in Massachusetts, voters in over 70 cities and towns decided favorably on non-binding public policy questions regarding the taxation of the adult use of marijuana and the legalization of the physician-supervised use of medical cannabis. Approximately 13 percent of the stateâ??s registered voters weighed in on the questions.

time to update the old map. :jointsmile: hint. hint. norml.