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fatherearth2011

11-02-2010, 10:34 PM

4:19 quotes â??the chroniclesâ?

Patient Membership Announcement

Who are we:

A collective of growers, we are FatherEarth.
Born circa de 2006, in a one bedroom apartment, EarthMan Technologies (EMT) was started, to help those who were seeking a better garden supply source for their needs. Often frustrated by sub-standard lacks of customer service, a lack of useful options and the average attitude of lacking helpfulness found at other companies, we decided to grow our own to our own standards. Our idea was to providing a detailed journey to world of medicinal marijuana that the community could partake in: either through seminars, community gardens, advice on the newest products and technology, as well as up to date sustainable methods and organics. Thus, Father Earth was born.

Weâ??re Looking for you:
Patients currently licensed under the Lynn and Erin Compassionate Use Act in the state of New Mexico

What:
Invite for interested patients to discuss board membership for state producer licensed.

When: Nov 1, 2010- Nov 30, 2010 Inquire within

Brought to you by FatherEarth

coolslayer

11-03-2010, 05:30 PM

You might as well forget it now.

fatherearth2011

11-03-2010, 05:50 PM

I can totally respect that, but there's room for a couple more before the doors of opportunity close. The problem is, there's not enough.

MimbresValley

11-03-2010, 05:56 PM

Maybe you should join up with others that are in your area.

fatherearth2011

11-03-2010, 07:06 PM

Its ok to have your opinion, like i said i can totally respect that. but This is for interested patients and if you're not interested i say "peace be the journey and keep it moving".

this opportunity wasn't for you.

alfonso2002

11-03-2010, 07:59 PM

FLYINGHIGH2

11-05-2010, 12:17 AM

The "doors of opportunity" closed when martinez became Governor.

We still have two months before she takes office. Don't give up hope just yet cool. It takes more than just saying she will repeal the law to actually do anything. Keep the faith and we can all weather the coming storm.

slyfox339

11-07-2010, 02:44 PM

In what part of the State are you located in, Northeast, Northwest, Southwest, Southeast.

Thanks:D

fatherearth2011

11-08-2010, 06:49 PM

In what part of the State are you located in, Northeast, Northwest, Southwest, Southeast.

Thanks:D

Southern.

fatherearth2011

11-13-2010, 01:37 AM

thanks for everything. 1 more patient to go.

SandiaBud

11-14-2010, 02:55 AM

Hi ya Fatherearth-Do you still need one more patient before you send in your app? I know it takes about a month for the DOH review group to review and compile the non profit license apps. Hopefully the program will run as usual for while. IMO-The new gov will have many other issues she needs to deal with before getting to the med cannabis program...so keep the faith and don't give up.... Good luck. :smokin:

fatherearth2011

11-14-2010, 05:31 PM

SandiaBud

11-14-2010, 05:52 PM

Nice pics. Are you in Dona Ana County? :cool:

fatherearth2011

11-14-2010, 06:29 PM

Nice pics. Are you in Dona Ana County? :cool:

yes mam.

fatherearth2011

11-14-2010, 07:10 PM

some flicks

lovemyhens

11-15-2010, 07:12 AM

I am a brand new patient!

alfonso2002

11-15-2010, 07:35 AM

I am a brand new patient!

So you got it ?

fatherearth2011

11-15-2010, 07:39 AM

I am a brand new patient!

look me up through my profile info and shoot me an email.

lovemyhens

11-15-2010, 08:32 AM

So you got it ?

Yes sir, I did! WootWoot!

slyfox339

11-16-2010, 01:41 AM

yeah, i'm still waiting for one more patient. interested?

here's a few pictures of my previous...

:rastasmoke:

green kush
and purple kush

If you need another Patient let me know. I am on the Southeastern part of state but I can try to help you.

Thanks
Slyfox339

dbeeler

11-22-2010, 01:26 AM

I am southeastern. If you need, let me know. dbeeler

fatherearth2011

01-03-2011, 09:29 PM

contact me, look up my info

xsnoder

01-05-2011, 10:38 AM

Interesting post?

xsnoder

01-05-2011, 10:41 AM

fatherearth2011

01-05-2011, 08:03 PM

look up my contact info and get back with me

fatherearth2011

01-05-2011, 08:03 PM

sometimes you know, people just want to rain on the parade...

xsnoder

01-06-2011, 07:42 AM

sometimes you know, people just want to rain on the parade...

Alright amigo, I opoligize for being rude. :thumbsup: Let the parade continue:jointsmile:

fatherearth2011

01-13-2011, 05:56 PM

1 more patient....

greetings once again, i come to the community to ask one more patient if they would like to participate on a board in the Dona Ana county area. if interested look up my contact info, and get with me.

you will need to ASAP get a background and pass.

verify your MMJ card with me and then we will proceed.

thanks for all those interested.

xsnoder

01-14-2011, 07:02 AM

Do you now need to get a nation wide back ground check? Not being rude this time bro. I am on a board for a pending producer and the state is making us replace the state wide with a national. Not for sure if this is true for producers already in production?

alfonso2002

01-14-2011, 07:31 AM

Yes xsnoder you do need a national background check to be on a board of directors.

xsnoder

01-14-2011, 12:32 PM

Yes xsnoder you do need a national background check to be on a board of directors.

Didn't want to sound like a smart ass this time so I put it in question form. lolThanks bro:thumbsup:

alfonso2002

01-14-2011, 04:30 PM

I would not worry about posting something you believe to be true if it is not someone will be sure to correct you LOL

xsnoder

01-16-2011, 09:27 AM

I would not worry about posting something you believe to be true if it is not someone will be sure to correct you LOL

No doubt,..LOL

MimbresValley

01-26-2011, 10:05 PM

Just a heads up to my fellow patients, I would stay away from this cat, he will say anything to get you on his board. After catching him referring to himself in the third person, I asked to see his art of inc and bylaws, and he responds.

i'm not comfortable sending you that, as we have already invested my time into this. if you want me to answer questions as far as the by law go i can do that in regards to voting, or membership, or board duty and officers i can do that. but sending you the actual document without some kind of mutual understanding between us is not conducive to us moving forward in this application process.

He won't even show perspective board members the copies of the art of inc and bylaws, Hell I post that shit up online for everyone to see.

http://boards.cannabis.com/new-mexico-nm/191621-cannabis-cost-co-op-producer-application-lnpp-bylaws-artofinc-patient-feedback.html

If you are looking to be on a board, skip this clown for a better producer.

fatherearth2011

01-27-2011, 12:02 AM

part 1
Greetings, patient in the DA area, just curious about what would be required, benefits of joining, etc? With the new regulations only 1 patient can serve on one board, and I have a few people who have asked me.

Thanks
einrich

my reply

background check must be passed, no felonies.
verified patient of MMJ

Benefits:
we can't pay as for simply being on the bod. however we do have various professional meetings in which the bod will have paid for. we are looking to participate in all of the cannabis cups around the world from amsterdam and spain to california and vancover.

let me if i can be of any further assistance in making your decision. we are looking for one more patient as it were.

part 2
No fellonies, only one arrest every(less than an ounce, was dismissed in court).
Are medical board members voting members on the board?
Can medical board members serve the company in other aspects, I.E. helping run trimming machines/hand trimming and thus be compensated?

Einrich

reply2
yes to voting, and yes with helping run... can't say immediately but when the time comes they will be certainly the first of people called on if help may be necessary.

let me know if i can be of further assistance in making your decision.

reply3
allow to a chance to convince now, upon being offered a position as a member of the board of directors your decisions will influence the manner in which you can benefit.

what does the board do?
the board basically assist in designing the manner and positions in which the non profit will run. this one runs in which there are 3 votes; the grower, the physician, and a combined vote for the patients.

how can this benefit you?
if you are interested in receiving marijuana compensation, or if you would like a "job" such as caregiver, or grow class instructor or any other aspect your vote is required.

so what can i offer you as to being on the board?
a vote, and you can be as active as you would like.

how about you tell me how active you intend on being, and we can talk about particular compensation that would be more to your liking.

part3
I will give it a little bit of thought, and give you a ring tomorrow,
I got like 5 other emails about folks wanting me on their board as
well.
The new changes allowing only one patient on one board has stirred
things up a bit and left folks scrambling.

How many people will be on your board total that have voting rights?,

The DOH requires the three patients and /nurse/doc/heath provider,
then you will have what? Im guessing a president, vp, and
secretary/treasuer, and a grower?

reply 3

Everybody on the board has voting rights, and your right as far as the requirements for patients and a physician as we are in need of one more patient. Our board consist of the 5 people totaling 3 votes. The patients have a combine vote of 1 divided among 3 people, and the physician has a vote, and the grower has a vote.

As the situation were, we are once again looking for 1 more patient. In regards to you personally growing we wish you the best of luck, we can be of assistance. But we have confidence in our grower as he comes from a good pedigree of growing, but as far as trimming is concerned. we currently are putting together our application so we're a little behind schedule as far as growing "hundreds of pounds" but once we get on schedule there will be an opportunity.

working 40-50 hrs, once we get up and growing, we will be more than willing to let you assist in any way or fashion. once you agree to be on the board you can assist in the design and implementation of various aspects of Earth Man Technologies Natural Care for Wellness.
Now patients are able to grow their own supply's, and if there were to be "extra" certainly it can be purchased by us. It has to meet quality standards.

part4

Ok I am a bit confused, if there is 5 people, (3 patients and a 1
doctor), then I am guessing you are the grower or one of the patients?
I would assume a patient otherwise why would be referring to yourself
in the third person in your last email correspondence?

reply 4
you make sure not to miss a thing.

well i am the grower as it were, and registered agent of EMT, aka the person putting together our application.

the titles are difficult to keep track of. i like to say that i'm ME as opposed to THE GROWER and this and that.

but, good morning to you and let me know if i can be of assistance if you are still interested.

part 5

> you make sure not to miss a thing.

Common sense before getting involved in a business.

> well i am the grower as it were, and registered agent of EMT, aka the person
> putting together our application.

"But we have confidence in our grower as he comes from a good pedigree of growing."

Talking in circles to try and sell me isn't going to work.
Also saying you would buy extra product if it was up to quality standards would lead me to believe you would break the law.

Now remember the common sense thing I mentioned earlier? Common sense says don't be on a board of directors of a company breaking the law.

reply 5
You have your opinion sir. And breaking the law we are not.

As a producer we are able to buy patients excess, as you have limits that don't correlate to producers.

As far as growing pedigree, I made it to the high times magazine and a bs in biology w/ plant emphasis and minor in chemistry from nmsu. I have grown in northern California in a patient collective of 50 people, hydroponically and organic, we all have a pedigree of where we have grown.

If your common sense tells you to pass do be it, thank you for your time.

You made a comment of growing and something about 3 lbs in 4 months??
1st what are you talkin about? An second it sounds like what I just said to you... Mr.breaking the law...

But I don't mean to ruffle your feathers, if you don't think this is for you, thanks for your time sir and Good luck with your endeavors.

part 6

What are you talking about? I can not grow cannabis plants in my tree growing system as I would be breaking my legal limit with one module, thats why I wanted to be able to grow a small number of plants while working under a producer as there is no limit on plant size for producers.

The plants would be produced at the production facility and fall under the plant limits for producers, I think its 150 now?

Now if you can promise me a small amount of plants to grow, maybe 10, under your guidance/supervision. Then we might be able to work something out.
You may be a great grower but there is always more to learn, wouldn't you agree, unless you know it all.

reply 6
i would like to divulge more information in particularly associated with bod.
this is a two way street as far as trying to get what you want. we need another patient, and we invite you to be on the board. the board position gives you a voice as far as being able to operate how you see fit. you become the voice of every patient in the state, in relation to us.

well welcome einrich, but let's clarify some things

so we're understood:
you would like your own growing patch, in your words

"Now if you can promise me a small amount of plants to grow, maybe 10, under your guidance/supervision. Then we might be able to work something out. And if you like the results maybe do a build out on a larger scale. I have been working with the owner quatnum horticulture(one of the largest ballast companies in the world) to design a new rdwc system,and would like an oppurtunity to try and max plants out in the system. System is designed for 3-4 lb plants. but I would be happy doing other things as well, I am very passionate about cannabis, so working in the grow room, or trimming would also be nice, deliverys maybe."

working in the grow room

"Ideally I would like to work 40-50 hours a month, and be compensated a reasonable amount, if I am able to grow, a bonus for plants over
3lbs indoors, if done in less than 4 months. would be a nice incentive. or trimming, deliveries maybe..."

what can we offer:
we're a growing operation. the key word being growing. so once we get an ok, we can start where we are now and expand. but we have to start.

working in the grow room, can do but we won't be able to guarantee 40-50 hrs a month initially. working our way up is going to take some time.
after the first harvest, we will be expanding from that point on out, and the opportunity to work more hands on will be available.
trimming, same thing
deliveries, same thing.
not sure what you mean as far as plant over 3 lbs, as your job would be to make sure we maintained a good crop, and paying you twice would just seem counter productive. but maybe we could work out some sort of reward system.

as far as growing your own patch:
currently this is going to be happening in a shed, pretty big shed in my back yard, enough to house 6 - 8 1000w lights. and until we get more comfortable with each other, the idea of you coming here is just not feasible.
same for the tree growing system, see below about reapplying.

FYI, producers have limits. 150 plants, no matter the size. federally the limit is still 100, and as far as being prosecuted in new mexico we would be ok, federally it would be ok to prosecute. and who gets prosecuted?? everybody on the board of directors. and i don't want that, it would include me, you, the physician and two other patients. ALL BAD.

but at reapplying next year (after we received the go ahead this year, the next year) the year we are looking to relocate the growing phase and that could be arranged (you having access to a section of the garden). but as for immediately upon receiving an ok from the DOH, we wouldn't be able to work that out.

do i have more to learn? YES we all do. the question is if you would like to take this journey with us or with another...

if you are ok with these conditions at first then let me welcome extend my hand (internet speaking).
what would be next?
we would need to verify your holding a card, etc.

so, what would you like to do??

part 7
On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Einrich wrote:

you act like bylaws and art of inc are some complicated papers to write out, your a fucking dipshit.
http://boards.cannabis.com/new-mexico-nm/191621-cannabis-cost-co-op-producer-application-lnpp-bylaws-artofinc-patient-feedback.html
It shouldn't take more than a couple hours to write, unless your dumb as shit, which I have come to the conclusion you are.

Im not going to agree to work with you without reading the companies operating procedures.
Same way I wouldnt buy a car without reading the contract first, Remember that common sense thing I reffered to my pervious email.

I am supposed to take your word for it, when you refer to yourself in the third person like a douchebag.

What are you afraid ill steal your art of inc and start my own company, there simple papers anyone could write them.
You will never find a third patient unless you conduct yourself like a business man.

I had a feeling you were shady after you were referring to yourself in the third person, just gave you enough rope to hang yourself.

reply 7

your actions don't go along with your talking. you say one thing and you want another. the things you find important are not, voting rights are the most important, and we do things like this:

Section 5.07. Quorum. A quorum shall consist of the President and Vice President, and/or Trusteeâ??s attending in person or through teleconferencing. All decisions will be by vote, the President and Vice President have one (1) vote each and the Trusteeâ??s have a combined one (1) vote at a meeting at which a quorum is present. If less than a majority of the directors is present at said meeting, the present directors present may proceed in action or adjourn the meeting on occasion without further notice.

and being shady? you're ridiculous. and a douche bag, you should really read some of your messages.

i'm trying to work with you but you're fucking killing me. you haven't proven to me that i should be doing this. who the hell are you? you might not even have a license. you could be 12 for all i know, and that does me no good.

citing cannabis.com, WTF? ok, dipshit... you know what one looks like, so what they hell is your question? that's what questions are for. and i told you this information in previous emails.

"Everybody on the board has voting rights, and your right as far as the requirements for patients and a physician as we are in need of one more patient. Our board consist of the 5 people totaling 3 votes. The patients have a combine vote of 1 divided among 3 people, and the physician has a vote, and the grower has a vote."

then you want

"Now if you can promise me a small amount of plants to grow, maybe 10, under your guidance/supervision. Then we might be able to work something out. You may be a great grower but there is always more to learn, wouldn't you agree, unless you know it all."

We talked about all of this already. and you just bullshyt me and wasting my time. so if you're not interested anymore then fine, but don't act like a fucking you know everything about growing, filing paperwork, and being licensed!

obviously you want the benefits to being on a BOD, and we can help each other. but if you not trying to contribute to helping me feel comfortable with you, then FUCK YOU and have a nice day.

sorry for my earlier emails, you was being a fucking you know everything... rubbed me the wrong way...

if we can't work together, then fine... have a nice day... thanks for applying.

fatherearth2011

01-27-2011, 12:08 AM

so i posted the correspondence between me and this guy to show you who i am and who he is.

in my opinion he takes what he wants to paint a picture that he's perfect or something.

if you are not interested please do not waste your or my time.

thanks

MimbresValley

01-27-2011, 12:09 AM

I find it hilarious you edited all our correspondence, made sure to remove your name anywhere it appeared, and made sure to include mine.
Thats the kind of guy this person is. watch out!
Notice I just warned you guys about him, I didn't oust his name on a public forum.

MimbresValley

01-27-2011, 12:34 AM

Not a whole lot you can say to my last post huh.:thumbsup:

Instead of asking a mod to remove your previous post listing my real name, Im going to ask they keep it up, so everyone will see what kind of person you are. This is the kind of person that shoves his herb under the passenger seat when getting pulled over, and then lets you take the fall for it.

Sure I think you're and idiot, I'm still not going to publish your real name on a site dedicated to growing cannabis if we have a disagreement, whats next you going to call the cops on me?:stoned:

ManOBuds

01-27-2011, 07:42 AM

Just a thought.......wouldn't it be illegal for a NM MMJ Producer to "participate in all of the cannabis cups around the world from amsterdam and spain to california and vancover"?

ManOBuds

01-27-2011, 07:48 AM

Burb2oo6

01-27-2011, 12:01 PM

My name is Thomas Montoya and i would like to become part of your board of staff..

MimbresValley

01-27-2011, 12:21 PM

"Now patients are able to grow their own supply's, and if there were to be "extra" certainly it can be purchased by us. It has to meet quality standards."

"As a producer we are able to buy patients excess, as you have limits that don't correlate to producers."

I have never seen any of this in the rules.........

Its not in the rules, this guy will say anything to get patients to join him.
The DOH specifically says its against the rules.

If you are on a board of directors and that company is breaking the law/
You are going to be liable and may very well end up in jail.

MimbresValley

01-29-2011, 03:04 AM

After earthman2011 displayed his true colors, he has decided to change his name. ROFLMAO

http://boards.cannabis.com/new-mexico-nm/195300-introducing-myself-need-patients-bod.html

Notice the 4:19 quotes in the first paragraph in this thread, and the thread I linked to.

This cat lives in DA county(las cruces area) so be very weary of producers in the DA area cause he will probably be changing his name again.

So its B.M. his wife(a physician) they both will have one vote on any matter(basically two votes since they are married), and the patients will all share one vote.

So what the patients say will have no bearing because they really don't have a vote.

This guy is such a douche.