Advice Needed - First Try at growing pot

[Luckyran]

Hi everybody

We bought holland seeds ( Amnesia ) and germinated them in a closet with wet tissues , we then transplanted them in a cup with soil in it(3 octobre). when the plants was ( to our knodlege ) big enough we transplanted it to a 7.5 littres pot.The plant is a month old we don't know if we should start putting our fertilizer. and if the plant is healthy because as you can see on the pictures one of them looks tired. we thought we are not getting enough sunlight so we added aluminum on the pot's border the tired(big) one is showing white hears which we believe to be the Tri-Chrome . if we have to put fertilizer how much and how would be the best results. The first month we had around 8-10 hours of sunlight with 50-80% humidity and 33 degrees Celsius day average and 28 at night but our plant is situated on our rooftop protected from wind. now we have around 6 hours of sun and around 40% humidity with around 25 degrees Celsius in day average and 18 at night with some tropical rain..

we are not serious growers , were just wanted to try it once and see how it would turn out.
you will see our two plants Miss Daisy and Tired , Miss daisy was a slow grower compared to Tired , you'll see the attachments

any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks :)

[Luckyran]

Miss daisy pictures

[mikeyman]

nice bro...what i would do is trim all the 3 pointed leaves and the first set of 5 pointed leaves like you see the cloons trimmed..on a 45 degree angle.Later take the 3 pointed leaves off:jointsmile:

[Luckyran]

What exactly do you mean by cloons and trimming , cutting them off?
if you could elaborate in easier words would be great , what about the fertelizer ?

thank you for answering

[mikeyman]

i ment clones.Have you seen a clone plant trimmed?/?.Fertilizers are plenty.Did you want to stay organic.I see if i can find some pics

[mikeyman]

ok this one has its leaves trimmed

[Luckyran]

I see what you mean by trimmer is this to make a other plant? what do you mean by clone? we don't want to stay organic , we have fertilizer from 4 to 7 ph when should we start it ? we appreciate you answering me.. the only thing we did is give him water and since the weather is getting could by putting fertelizer it will increase or chances to have a sucess.

thank you so much

[mikeyman]

they sell clones (small plants) at the store here .just cut the leaves that i suggested and you'll see if the plant likes it;)

[mikeyman]

yes you could start a little fertilizer..

[LetsSeeYa]

Hi everybody

We bought holland seeds ( Amnesia ) and germinated them in a closet with wet tissues , we then transplanted them in a cup with soil in it(3 octobre). when the plants was ( to our knodlege ) big enough we transplanted it to a 7.5 littres pot.The plant is a month old we don't know if we should start putting our fertilizer. and if the plant is healthy because as you can see on the pictures one of them looks tired. we thought we are not getting enough sunlight so we added aluminum on the pot's border the tired(big) one is showing white hears which we believe to be the Tri-Chrome . if we have to put fertilizer how much and how would be the best results. The first month we had around 8-10 hours of sunlight with 50-80% humidity and 33 degrees Celsius day average and 28 at night but our plant is situated on our rooftop protected from wind. now we have around 6 hours of sun and around 40% humidity with around 25 degrees Celsius in day average and 18 at night with some tropical rain..

we are not serious growers , were just wanted to try it once and see how it would turn out.
you will see our two plants Miss Daisy and Tired , Miss daisy was a slow grower compared to Tired , you'll see the attachments

any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks :)



I would try and keep the roots warm and give ferts after 30 days. So yeah get your ferts on them at about half strength now, then give her a few days to see how she looks. Then water. Then after she drys a bit give more ferts. Then water. After you see she is tolerating the ferts bump them up a bit then water. Build up on the ferts till your full strength, but water in between. You can always start nutes/ferts after 3-4 weeks. But if it gets to the point of frost it will kill your plant. If you cant bring it in i would at least cover it till morning.



Good luck:rasta:

[Luckyran]

Hi to all,

Heres updated pictures of our beloved plants !

As you can see they greww and we believe this is their flowering period ?
we can see the white hairs and remember reading something about them trichromes ? when do i know when my buds will be ready ? what else do i have to do except for what i am doing. when i get close to the hairs and smell its getting to that deliciously exciting smell ! :)


We've been putting fertelizer for 5 days now and we can see a big difference with both if you could comment and give advice we would appreciate it soo much ...
and let us know if we are on the right path towards getting high !!! :)

the first pictures are from 'miss daisy' and in the second post they're from 'tired'

[Luckyran]

Tired pictures

[LetsSeeYa]

We've been putting fertelizer for 5 days now and we can see a big difference with both if you could comment and give advice we would appreciate it soo much ...
and let us know if we are on the right path towards getting high !!! :)

Dont give it too much ferts man you will burn her up. Water in between giving her a bunch of ferts, it might save you later on. Im sure the plants needed Nitrogen and thats why you see the vigorous growth. But just dont over due it with the ferts as it can give you a bunch of problems and by starting with a low dosage 2 or 3 times a week. This is way better then a bunch at once, plus they like to have their soil dry out in between feeding/water sometime. They get lots of air when the soil drys out and isn't always wet.


Other then that they look nice man:thumbsup:



:rasta:

[meowtrox]

ok this one has its leaves trimmed

hey man what's the purpose of trimming the edge of the leaf?

[meowtrox]

http://boards.cannabis.com/outdoor-growing/191689-help-marijuana-grower-newbie.html

letsseeya! hey man check out my thread, how's my progress? this is the latest picture i have

[LetsSeeYa]

hey man what's the purpose of trimming the edge of the leaf?



I think they got a bit to much ferts. Just keep them in the sun and only give ferts after you have watered, but then give her two or three days to dry out then hit them with ferts. Then give em 3 or 4 days to dry and water. Stay like this until your buds begin to grow, then ya want to get a fert with a N-P-K of something without Nitrogen in it to feed your buds. The package should say 0-7-3 or something close to it. And man do not cut your leaves, he wants you to clone, you can read about it here. But your leaves are growing your plant for you by taking what it needs from the sun.

They look great man, just cut the ferts a bit and do not trim any leaves:thumbsup:



:rasta:

[Luckyran]

Hi all

We have updates from our plants , The Tired one as you see has been finally cut off a week ago , we cut off all the leaves and let it dry under a ceiling fan in a dark (office room). we obtained 4 grams from the plant
(see picture)
After 2 days we noticed that it was almost completely dry except of the stem. The buds are very crunchy and couldnâ??t hold it without breaking the bud. The smell also disappeared.
The next day the stem had a cracking sound while bending it so we removed the buds and putted them in a glass jar to cure , they don't exactly look like buds ( you can see it on the pictures)
Even though there is a lot of THC on it.
We tried smoking it , it had a bad taste and no smell but it gets us a high in a different way.
Did we do it right? because our other plant (picture) is almost time to harvest if i am not mistaken.
and this time we want to dry it correctly and have a great smoke.
So our questions are
1. How do we get our Bushweed that fluffiness bag instead of the crunchiness
2. how do we dry our second plant the right way
3.How do we have to cure them to have the best possible results!

Once again thank you for responding before and thank you for future responders :)

Cheers!

[KingOfTheRodeo]

It seems like you cured your harvest too fast, which explains why you had a small harvest and the loss of odor and lack of taste. I'm assuming you have a empty room you are curing the bud in or will cure it in. I suggest getting another fan to blow fresh air into the room from the doorway. Leave the door open with the fan going for a few days and keep an eye on the bud. After about two days i would close the door halfway to cut back on ventilation. Once you notice some stiffness in the stem and the leaves are starting to become crisp i would turn the fan off that is blowing the fresh air in but keep the ceiling fan going. After about a week or two the leaves should be a little bit more crisp and if it happens before then i would cut back on ventilation. And then you can either choose to keep curing it from anywhere from another week to 6 weeks. It's up to you man. I hope this helps and you get some big skanky buds!

[Luckyran]

So what do you mean by I cured the my harvest too fast. I read allover it said 5-7 days hang it to dry and then 2-5 weeks cure the weed in a jar and open it for 5 minutes everyday.

Im still not sure what im supposed to do now with this bushweed... can it be saved and given better taste ? it has lots of thc....

What about my other plant should I just dry it with 2 fans instead of one and leave the door open ? is the fact of a darkroom important ? can the room be lit ? can the windows be open ?

Thanks for all the help !

[KingOfTheRodeo]

read this article it should help you out. How To Cure Your Marijuana Crop - 420 Magazine (http://www.420magazine.com/forums/frequently-asked-questions/86257-how-cure-your-marijuana-crop.html)

[GaGrown]

So what do you mean by I cured the my harvest too fast. I read allover it said 5-7 days hang it to dry and then 2-5 weeks cure the weed in a jar and open it for 5 minutes everyday.

Im still not sure what im supposed to do now with this bushweed... can it be saved and given better taste ? it has lots of thc....

What about my other plant should I just dry it with 2 fans instead of one and leave the door open ? is the fact of a darkroom important ? can the room be lit ? can the windows be open ?

Thanks for all the help !

If the weed has the THC content.. Then that was the objective to create a product that got you high,right. As for the taste.. Roll a blunt,with a flavored wrap.

Was it hotttt in the room you were drying or curing in?

[LetsSeeYa]

So what do you mean by I cured the my harvest too fast. I read allover it said 5-7 days hang it to dry and then 2-5 weeks cure the weed in a jar and open it for 5 minutes everyday.

Im still not sure what im supposed to do now with this bushweed... can it be saved and given better taste ? it has lots of thc....

What about my other plant should I just dry it with 2 fans instead of one and leave the door open ? is the fact of a darkroom important ? can the room be lit ? can the windows be open ?

Thanks for all the help !

Are you guys still here, im sorry but got lost i guess. Those are not buds, they look more like flowers, which is what a bud turns into. You should have let them grow at least a month or two more. You cant see trech's with the naked eye very well. If anything, they look more like crystals without a 30x microscope, i got mine on line for 9.95. Im not going to write to much, just in case you dont come back, but let me know you are still coming here and il teach ya everything i know:thumbsup:

And if ya come back, i will show you how you can get 15-20 gram buds:thumbsup:just post in here and dont harvest that plant yet. But if you have just put it some place dry with air moving in the room, not on the buds. Because it will dry them to much and we dont want that. I will check back everyday:thumbsup:



:rasta:

[specialsmoke]

Hi to all,

Heres updated pictures of our beloved plants !

As you can see they greww and we believe this is their flowering period ?
we can see the white hairs and remember reading something about them trichromes ? when do i know when my buds will be ready ? what else do i have to do except for what i am doing. when i get close to the hairs and smell its getting to that deliciously exciting smell ! :)


We've been putting fertelizer for 5 days now and we can see a big difference with both if you could comment and give advice we would appreciate it soo much ...
and let us know if we are on the right path towards getting high !!! :)

the first pictures are from 'miss daisy' and in the second post they're from 'tired'
I don't know what kind of fert you are using but I have used and love Organic Gem (someone finally put an ad in High Times for it) I used to have to get it from a hops farmer. This stuff will make your plants go nuts. We took some or our small plants (in a 1 gal container) and put them in 5 gal pots and took 2ounces of Organic gem and fed them. In two weeks the roots had went all the way to the edge of the 5 gal pot and all the way down the side and out the weep hole at the bottom. Truly amazing.

[GaGrown]

Are you guys still here, im sorry but got lost i guess. Those are not buds, they look more like flowers, which is what a bud turns into. You should have let them grow at least a month or two more. You cant see trech's with the naked eye very well. If anything, they look more like crystals without a 30x microscope, i got mine on line for 9.95. Im not going to write to much, just in case you dont come back, but let me know you are still coming here and il teach ya everything i know:thumbsup:

And if ya come back, i will show you how you can get 15-20 gram buds:thumbsup:just post in here and dont harvest that plant yet. But if you have just put it some place dry with air moving in the room, not on the buds. Because it will dry them to much and we dont want that. I will check back everyday:thumbsup:



:rasta:

Oh SHIT! I guess I shoulda looked at the pics,huh? That is a male flower!:stoned:

[Luckyran]

Hey guys ! thanks so much for all these replies :) We are super excited that finally people are getting into it and really giving us great advice.

I am going to expand on the subject tomorrow.... I dont have so much time i`m running out.

Just wanted to already let you know it is appreciated and hope it helps !!

PS: MALE FLOWER ?!?!


Regards ! stonersssss

[LetsSeeYa]

Hey guys ! thanks so much for all these replies :) We are super excited that finally people are getting into it and really giving us great advice.

I am going to expand on the subject tomorrow.... I dont have so much time i`m running out.

Just wanted to already let you know it is appreciated and hope it helps !!

PS: MALE FLOWER ?!?!


Regards ! stonersssss



A male flower is the opposite sex, which creates pollen to make seeds in a female bud. Like i posted above, you really need to read or this is a question that you should know by now if you have read. We will help ya grow, but if you are not able to understand the answer, then we cant teach you anything.

Your ''tired'' plant looked burned up by nutes and maybe watered in direct sun or something. If you have looked around in here id think you would had seen a pic of a bud, yet your question about the 4g plant, which could have been much bigger if left to grow i dont understand.

Go into some grow logs and read them, then ask questions. That way you will understand the answers. And plant more seeds, you learn a lot by growing and reading together. There are no short cuts, reading must be done.



Peace bro:rasta:

[Luckyran]

Are you guys still here, im sorry but got lost i guess. Those are not buds, they look more like flowers, which is what a bud turns into. You should have let them grow at least a month or two more. You cant see trech's with the naked eye very well. If anything, they look more like crystals without a 30x microscope, i got mine on line for 9.95. Im not going to write to much, just in case you dont come back, but let me know you are still coming here and il teach ya everything i know:thumbsup:

And if ya come back, i will show you how you can get 15-20 gram buds:thumbsup:just post in here and dont harvest that plant yet. But if you have just put it some place dry with air moving in the room, not on the buds. Because it will dry them to much and we dont want that. I will check back everyday:thumbsup:



:rasta:

Hey, we are coming back untill we get the whole process figured out :) So thank you so much for helping

Second, What do you mean by `they look more like flowers, what buds turn into` ? And which plant are you talking about ? One is still in the soil and beautiful and the other we dried and are currently in the curing process :)

The one that is in the curing process is the one that taste bad and smells a little better lately.

The one that is still in the soil looks a lot better than the other one ever did. Altough the weather here is getting worse and tonight was the first night we brought our plant inside.

We bought a product for late flowering.... we want these buds to be like the weed i buy. I am very curious to see if I can get good weed ?

the product is called RIPEN ... they say to feed it to the plant its last 10 days. We gave it today and we dont know if the weather will allow our plant to live another 10 days .... Maximum we will dry it, I would just like to know if it is ready ?


Also I asked in an earlier post how do I get my weed dried properly and cured and someone posted an article that was awesome but I am still not sure about one thing.

To get the plant DRY --> ventilation
To get the plant Fluffy --> cut back on ventilation

is that the basic concept of it ?


2 more things ( sorry for the superlong post )

Can I see if my plant is ready to harvest without a microscope ? And are the hairs that are becoming browner the trichromes ? or trechs ?

What did you mean by that is a male plant ? Which one ? and we made sure to kill the males so im confused.


Thank you all sooo much, waiting for replies :)

[Luckyran]

A male flower is the opposite sex, which creates pollen to make seeds in a female bud. Like i posted above, you really need to read or this is a question that you should know by now if you have read. We will help ya grow, but if you are not able to understand the answer, then we cant teach you anything.

Your ''tired'' plant looked burned up by nutes and maybe watered in direct sun or something. If you have looked around in here id think you would had seen a pic of a bud, yet your question about the 4g plant, which could have been much bigger if left to grow i dont understand.



Peace bro:rasta:

Hey, I didnt see this post earlier.... so I elaborated a little more.... I am reading a lot and this is my first try ever. I am sorry if you feel I do not understand much :) I know what a male plant is and made sure to kill them before the 5th week. so no pollen would be produced to inseminate the females.
Which of the 2 plants do you believe to be male ?

The `tired` one is in its curing process, we had to take its life because it was only getting worse. and I believe i did burn it up with nutes. 1 day i put nutes in without water and later i added water. then I read that it might kill my plant... :)

The other one`s name is Miss Daisy, It is horrible weather here so its on a balcony not on the roof and its covered. I`m havent fed it fertz for about a week now and started feeding it RIPEN today.

I am eager to learn, I read everywhere and I couldnt understand it all so when i found this website i got rlly excited to get the answer firsthanded from someone and personally to my situation. I really appreciate any effort you guys do to help my get high on my own grown pot :)

Thanks !

Regards....:stoned:

[GaGrown]

I see male flowering in that last pic.

[Luckyran]

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Is this the picture where you see male flower ? this is the dried `weed` we obtained from the plant named `Tired` ...

could you elaborate pls... ?

Thank you ! :stoned:

[GaGrown]

If you will look closely at the bud or pic you will see little round like balls on top of eachother,those are pollen sacs. It was harvested before it had time to open and spread. Pretty sure thats what they are..

I may be trippin',too :stoned:! My eye-sight ain't what it used to be.

[Lynhal]

This might help you out. Female and male side by side with arrows and tags. (And the male in this pic looks a lot like that one plant you have in your last pic that is dried out, unless it's a he/she hermie.)

[Lynhal]

If you are really interested in learning more you can click on the links in my signature below. Both have their merits and you can sit back, relax and watch videos. Then you can read up more here. Once you know the basics of it you will understand more and be able to make much better gardening decisions. That second link is for a High Times production that you might find very informative, as well as that first link with Mr. Green - the guy is a blast to watch when your buzzed IMHO. :rastasmoke: Mr. Green's is from 1999, so some stuff is outdated or been upgraded but the bottom line is his ways still grow Grade A nuggets. ;)

The only stupid questions are the ones that goes unanswered. Do not apologize for not knowing but keep learning as much as you can. This website has so much information just waiting to be read! :postreadfaq:

[Luckyran]

Just so you guys know I have read the differences... I am just shocked to have not noticed it.... I always thought those were weird `buds` .... ( there is a lot of thc tho when i look at it in light )

The dried out bud tho came from this plant look at the picture thats when it was alive... can you confirm it is a male ?
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This is one of the first pictures we posted of the plant it was called `tired` because it was burned up with nutes we believe... and was hanging chilling :) so we harvested it in the 8th week and apparently it is a male one ? please check it out ....

[Lynhal]

The dried out bud tho came from this plant look at the picture thats when it was alive... can you confirm it is a male ?
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I don't think I see any balling on that female plant, (If you could it is a hermie. Hermaphrodite - both plant sexes) but I'm looking at it sideways as it was posted. If it was in fact a female it was not left to flower long enough IMHO or it would have had some nuggets even if small.

[Luckyran]

Hey, thanks for the fast replies ,

this stuff gets my high tho, not superhigh but good and I was wondering if the flowering didnt occur yet since theres no nuggets can there be thc ? I feel it as a good head high... im still looking for that good body high Im hoping my other plant will give me that feelin :)

The other plant is called Miss Daisy and is currently on the balcony not on the roof because of superbad weather. SUPERWINDY and rains... It is covered from above and from the sides so that the rain and wind are no bother and it gets fresh air constantly, now Since tomorrow is a really bad weather I was wondering if I could already harvest this one...

I have a 10x microscope but it is very difficult to see the trichromes and judge them. and the pistils are getting red brownish ....

I took some pictures of Miss Daisy and you can see her status today. Those are the best pictures I think ive posted. I would like to know if those are already real buds or small nuggets , not like the tired one that was harvested before flowering ....

I want you to know that it is really appreciated ; LetsSeeYa , GaGrown , Lynhal you guys reply superquick and have helped me a lot so far and I hope you continue :)

I wish I had the opportunity to smoke you guys out I would ! thank you so much .

Let me know what you think of Miss Daisy.

[Lynhal]

You are most welcome. :)

And from those pictures that plant is very close to harvest IMHO. I see quite a lot of trichs ready ... once it is about 2/3 colored with that rusty appearance you are good to go. (I hope you have only watered it (no nutes) for two weeks prior to your harvest. Right now I'm too lazy (buzzed) to go back a re-read if you mentioned that haha)

Best of luck on your drying and curing process yet to come! :rastasmoke:

[Luckyran]

Yeah we fed it only water and dropped the ph levels to 5.5 to 6.5 and added that product RIPEN which is for the last 2 weeks of the plant , its a late flowering solution that gives a strong signal to the plant that it is reaching the end of its life and that makes the plant produce faster and more of the active ingredient that we want thc :)

Thank you so much, what do you think tho should i harvest already since the weather is so bad, will my plant worsen or get better if i leave it with this weather ... theres no more sun here it is over :)

:) thanks so much:rastasmoke:

[Lynhal]

You are quite welcome. And if they were my plants in those conditions I would harvest rather than risk losing them. :cool:

[LetsSeeYa]

Yeah we fed it only water and dropped the ph levels to 5.5 to 6.5 and added that product RIPEN which is for the last 2 weeks of the plant , its a late flowering solution that gives a strong signal to the plant that it is reaching the end of its life and that makes the plant produce faster and more of the active ingredient that we want thc :)

Thank you so much, what do you think tho should i harvest already since the weather is so bad, will my plant worsen or get better if i leave it with this weather ... theres no more sun here it is over :)

:) thanks so much:rastasmoke:

http://www.420hydro.com/files/images/69.jpg

If this is what you are using, i would not give it to that plant last posted. Its good to give plain water about 10 days before you harvest your plant.

Also never just pour any thing like this into your grow medium, always read the instructions and then only use half of what it says. Then see if the plant likes it and if so after a couple 3 feeding of half straight, then give full dose.

When you dry your plant, cut the branches with the buds attached and hang them from string in a place that has good air flow, but do not put a fan directly on the branches. Just turn it on and point it in the other direction. When the stems make a cracking noise when you bend them, your buds should be dry enough to be taken off the stem's and put into a brown paper sac. But open the sac once or twice a day for 5 days. Now you can smoke it or put in jars to give you a better tasting bud.


If you gave this plant the ferts, i would wait till you get water through that pot or you will taste the ferts in the buds when you smoke em. So just wait ten days and give only water. Now if that other plant was a female you should have started this fert you have when you first saw flowers. This is how its used at least what info i saw. Like i posted before the NPK would be close to 0-3-2 or something close to that, which is to build your flowers into big buds. But still stop all ferts at least 10-14 day before harvest. I didnt wait before and the buds tasted just like the ferts, nasty:wtf:

Oh and READ MORE



Good luck:rasta:

[nugssgalore]

Harvest time! Waiting any longer will only encourage the couch lock to set in...that girl looks more than ready!