View Full Version : When and IF 2 STOP topping a plant??
mprobasco
10-27-2010, 03:27 AM
I have this question..
Is it ok to top your plant as much as you want (obviously not over stressing it, and giving it healing time in-between toppings) until flowering time?
I know topping, while your flowering, is not a good move, but as long as your in the vegetation stage it should be ok to top as much as you want right?
I heard topping an un-feminized seed too much could result in hermaphridite or male charactorists such as beans and junk.
----anyone with experience on excessive topping with with good/bad harvest outcomes, please let me know what happened with your experience and I'm greatful on any input----
THANKXX
p.s. here is the one I'm in the process of doing....
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headshake
10-27-2010, 03:44 AM
yes, you can top a plant as much as you want while in vegetative growth. you want to stop 7-10 days prior to flipping to 12/12. i top the piss out of my plants (the strains that like it).
a plant can go hermie from being stressed via many factors, but not while it's in veg. a lot of the strains on the market are going to hermie a bit anyhow. it just seems to be the way that it is.
-shake
mprobasco
10-27-2010, 04:16 AM
one more question that I figure you might know. Is ok to top, then wait til the next node grows and top again or do you have to wait til two full nodes grow before topping again?
headshake
10-27-2010, 04:25 AM
you can top a top of a top. no need to wait. again, some strains don't take to topping well.
-shake
mprobasco
10-27-2010, 04:31 AM
well, in the morning, I've got some topping to do then:) very much appreciate the info
headshake
10-27-2010, 05:49 AM
well, in the morning, I've got some topping to do then:) very much appreciate the info
you are welcome.
-shake
BUBBA1980
10-27-2010, 06:57 AM
AGINE I BEG TO DIFFER IT IS OK TO TOPP IN BUDD I DO IT ALL THE TIME YOU JUST CANT WAIT MORE THEN TWO WEEKS BUT AS FOR VEGG. ALL THE TIME MY ONE GROW BUDDY BUTCHERED A 3 FT PLANT DOWN TO A FOOT MADE A BUNCH OF STARTS OFF OF IT,AND IT GREW BACK BUSHER THEN WHEN HE STARTED IT ONLY TOOK ABOUT A MONTH
WashougalWonder
10-27-2010, 11:52 AM
Both are right...Bubba stop yelling please (all caps).
Tho it is not wise to top in flower, it can be done very early and it will take an additional week or two to finish. It could also hermie. I know this because I have tried topping in flower and/or had an accident that topped the plant. It does not increase the amount of product at all.
" It does not increase the amount of product at all." Can also be said for topping in veg. You can make one hell of a bush tho which can be great for stealth purposes.........
Myself, I top for height control.
headshake
10-27-2010, 03:39 PM
AGINE I BEG TO DIFFER IT IS OK TO TOPP IN BUDD I DO IT ALL THE TIME YOU JUST CANT WAIT MORE THEN TWO WEEKS BUT AS FOR VEGG. ALL THE TIME MY ONE GROW BUDDY BUTCHERED A 3 FT PLANT DOWN TO A FOOT MADE A BUNCH OF STARTS OFF OF IT,AND IT GREW BACK BUSHER THEN WHEN HE STARTED IT ONLY TOOK ABOUT A MONTH
again, i beg to use proper spelling and punctuation! how can anyone take what you say seriously when it can't be deciphered?
sure, you could top a plant in flower, but why? during the first 40% of the time in flower a plant goes through "the stretch" before spending the last 60% of it's lifetime fattening up, trying to catch pollen, it's only purpose on the planet. it takes time for the growth hormone auxin to be re-distributed to the auxiliary bud sites. if you top in flower, even during the first two weeks not only are you decreasing your yield, but like WW said, you can hermie your plant not to mention it will take longer to finish.
i like to teach proper methods. thanks for trying to correct me though.
-shake
BUBBA1980
10-27-2010, 06:58 PM
OK SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS I ALWAYS LEAVE THEM ON. AND AS FOR HEADSHAKE I AM NEW TO THIS SITE, SO I DID NOT SEE THE SPELL-CHECK. BUT SERIOUSLY YOU TALKING SHIT ON A GROW SITE,YOUR HOBBIES ARE PLAYING VIDEO GAMES AND YOUâ??RE A WANABE, DONâ??T TALK TO ME ABOUT, BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY AND YOUâ??RE IN TEXAS [YOUR FLAG SAYS } Iâ??M FROM WASHINGTON AND WE GROW SOME OF THE BEST BUDDY, AND I DO IT LEGALLY, AND HAVE BEEN FOR SOME TIME, YOUR ANSWER TO EVERYTHING I HAVE READ WAS PH PH PH. WELL YOU COULD BE LEADING PPL ASTRAY. SO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOUâ??RE TALKING ABOUT AND PLEASE THE NEXT TIME SOMEONE SAYS " BEG TO DIFFER" DONT TAKE SUCH AFENCE!!!!
headshake
10-27-2010, 10:12 PM
dude, learn to how to spell. are you really THAT lazy? you have the internet at your fingertips and can't look up a word. if your growing skills are anything like your grasp of the english language and grammar you should find something else to do. talking shit, are you serious? i'm just telling it how it is. i never made an attack or sad anything that wasn't true (or that you didn't state first with your own post).
wow, just after you tried to say i'm talking shit you start to diss my hobbies? and the words that I wrote about myself. and what exaclty does my state have to do with anything? and you are doing it ILLEGALLY according to the federal government (not saying i agree with their stance, but if you are gonna start to throw shit), just like i do.
my answer to everything is not pH. but UNTIL the poster has a grasp on his/her pH than everything else is IRRELEVANT. any advice given is considered bad. because all the good advice in the world won't help you if your pH isn't inline. i've never told someone who's pH was KNOWN to be in the acceptable range that their pH was the issue. there is a reason things are done a certain way around here, or in troubleshooting in general. there are steps that MUST be followed. and those steps were put into order by EXPERIENCE, and their RELEVANCE. any doucebag can spout out, magnesium deficiency, or calcium deficiency or whatnot, but there is an UNDERLYING CAUSE to the deficiency. plants just don't up and go deficient because they are bored or want to fuck with you.
please start a grow log to enlighten us with your masterful skills. mine are all here, just look em up. i've taken the liberty to attach a couple of pictures of one of my current ladies in flower. i put my money where my mouth is, how about you!?
-shake
jtingler
10-27-2010, 10:19 PM
Man, i love cheezit's
headshake
10-27-2010, 10:20 PM
Man, i love cheezit's
ROTFLMAO!
-shake
mprobasco
10-27-2010, 10:27 PM
Damn headshake, that is one very lovely lady you grew there::)
headshake
10-28-2010, 12:16 AM
Damn headshake, that is one very lovely lady you grew there::)
thanks mprobasco! sorry for jacking your thread up.
-shake
Dutch Pimp
10-28-2010, 01:58 AM
OK SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS I ALWAYS LEAVE THEM ON. AND AS FOR HEADSHAKE I AM NEW TO THIS SITE, SO I DID NOT SEE THE SPELL-CHECK. BUT SERIOUSLY YOU TALKING SHIT ON A GROW SITE,YOUR HOBBIES ARE PLAYING VIDEO GAMES AND YOUâ??RE A WANABE, DONâ??T TALK TO ME ABOUT, BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY AND YOUâ??RE IN TEXAS [YOUR FLAG SAYS } Iâ??M FROM WASHINGTON AND WE GROW SOME OF THE BEST BUDDY, AND I DO IT LEGALLY, AND HAVE BEEN FOR SOME TIME, YOUR ANSWER TO EVERYTHING I HAVE READ WAS PH PH PH. WELL YOU COULD BE LEADING PPL ASTRAY. SO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOUâ??RE TALKING ABOUT AND PLEASE THE NEXT TIME SOMEONE SAYS " BEG TO DIFFER" DONT TAKE SUCH AFENCE!!!!
There's a 10 Yard Penalty for ALL CAPS.....:pimp:...red squares don't lie
BUBBA1980
10-28-2010, 07:04 AM
OK NICE GIRLS, AND I WILL START A GROW LOG. I DO HAVE A DEGREE JUST NOT IN ENGLISH. I NEVER SAID I WAS A MASTER AT GROWING,I SEEM TO HAVE A KNACK FOR IT AND I DO HAVE PIC. SORRY FOR THE DISRESPECT:stoned: I WAS ONLY TRYING TO HELP SOMEONE. YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT GRAMMAR NOT GROWING NEVER BEEN A GOOD SPELLER BUT AS YOU CAN SEE I DO GROW SOME GOOD MEDS. AND THE FEDS WILL NEVER LEGALIZE IT BECAUSE THEY CANâ??T CONTROL IT!! BUT YOU LOOK LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING SO GOOD LUCK AND GOOD MEDS!:stoned:
headshake
10-28-2010, 03:23 PM
OK NICE GIRLS, AND I WILL START A GROW LOG. I DO HAVE A DEGREE JUST NOT IN ENGLISH. I NEVER SAID I WAS A MASTER AT GROWING,I SEEM TO HAVE A KNACK FOR IT AND I DO HAVE PIC. SORRY FOR THE DISRESPECT:stoned: I WAS ONLY TRYING TO HELP SOMEONE. YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT GRAMMAR NOT GROWING NEVER BEEN A GOOD SPELLER BUT AS YOU CAN SEE I DO GROW SOME GOOD MEDS. AND THE FEDS WILL NEVER LEGALIZE IT BECAUSE THEY CANâ??T CONTROL IT!! BUT YOU LOOK LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING SO GOOD LUCK AND GOOD MEDS!:stoned:
fair enough Bubba. i am sorry for the disrespect as well. the meds look great! and fuck the Feds!
-shake
BUBBA1980
10-28-2010, 08:38 PM
I AGGREE FUCK THEM GUYS, BUT JUST THINK IF THEY WOULD JUST GIVE UP THERE POWER HOLD ON IT HOW MUCH MONEY EVERY ONE WOULD MAKE, IF THEY WOULD LEGALIZE IT ALOT OF PPL WOULD JUST BY IT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE EASY TO GET, THAT AND AS YOU SAID A LOT OF PPL JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO GROW! JUST BECAUSE OF ALL THE THINGS THAT CAN GO WRONG,YOU SHOULD KNOW ITS WORK AND COSTLY ALL THE WAY FROM {CLONES OR SEEED}, ALL THE WAY TO THE TRIMMING, ITS FUNNY ITS LEGAL HERE BUT,ALL THESE PPL ARE GOING AND GETTING THERE CARDS AND THEY THINK YOU CAN JUST THROW THE PLANT IN DIRT AND GROW BUDS, AND KNOW EVERYONE WANTS A CAREGIVER. SO BASICALLY IF THE FEDS WOULD NOT BE SO GREEDY AND SHARE WE COULD ALL MAKE GOOD SMOKE AND MONEY. BUT WE DO HAVE A FOOT IN THE DOOR WITH THE MEDICAL, SO KNOW. THEY CANT GO BACK IT WOULD BE JUST TIKE THE PROHIBITION OF ALCOHOL!!!! HAHA FUCKERS THEY FUCKED UP KNOW ITS COMING SOME DAY IT WILL BE TAX AND DISTRIBUTED!!!:smokin:
mprobasco
10-28-2010, 10:00 PM
Its all good about the disscussions. Always interesting facts to be laid out...
mprobasco
10-28-2010, 10:08 PM
Is everyone chatting/picture posting, using HPS lights? if so, i'm just gonna make my 45 minute drive to pick one up. Found a 150 HPS light at a store that should be perfect for my growing area. Then I could at least get all the cords outta the way:)
Any of you use CFL's constantly for your grows? Found some that put out around 2,300-2,700 lumens a piece. Cant remember exactly but its somewhere in that range, I know not anywhere near a 150 HPS putting around 60,000 lumens. Damn, think I just answered my own question. Screw it, I'm getting one....
headshake
10-28-2010, 11:33 PM
Cant remember exactly but its somewhere in that range, I know not anywhere near a 150 HPS putting around 60,000 lumens. Damn, think I just answered my own question. Screw it, I'm getting one....
there you have it. i run 2x 600W HPS for bloom, and LED bar (from Str8outaWeed) and 2x 2 bulb t-5's for veg.
-shake
BUBBA1980
10-29-2010, 07:30 AM
know i got this key board fixed, i just cut down that g13 and i put a pic of it on here, but i use a 400w mh in the grow and 1000mh and a t5 with 6 54w but i got 12 knowin bud i do have a 1000 hps but i need a igniter for it just have not had the time or money to go get i would like to switch one of my 1000 mh for it, but just waiting. will soon but HEADSHRINK that lady you had had to be just about done toO? what kind was she? she looks tasty!!!!:jointsmile:
BUBBA1980
10-29-2010, 07:31 AM
HERES THE FINISHED PRODUCT JUST GOT ONE MORE TRIM TO GIVE HER!!!
headshake
10-29-2010, 09:26 AM
but HEADSHRINK that lady you had had to be just about done toO? what kind was she? she looks tasty!!!!:jointsmile:
names headSHAKE. lol. she's a northern lights x skunk #5 (i believe). i was gifted a cut so i'm not for sure. i mean there are so man northern lights and skunks. lol. she's mostly milky, with a few clear still. i'll check her tomorrow. she'll be down here in the next few days i'm sure.
-shake
Ocotillo
10-29-2010, 09:53 AM
LOL, good one. My conspiracy theory side asks, "How can we really be sure"?
Doc Oc. :D
plants just don't up and go deficient because they are bored or want to fuck with you.-shake
P.s. BLUBBER1980, When kids use that "text talk" jibberish I usually don't read it and consider giving a neg rep point. Translation into text talk: fewl c8 tak soo i dunt heer u tak 2 da hand use da dot yo tik tok l8 do out :wtf:
headshake
10-29-2010, 06:05 PM
LOL, good one. My conspiracy theory side asks, "How can we really be sure"?
Doc Oc. :D
P.s. BLUBBER1980, When kids use that "text talk" jibberish I usually don't read it and consider giving a neg rep point. Translation into text talk: fewl c8 tak soo i dunt heer u tak 2 da hand use da dot yo tik tok l8 do out :wtf:
my internal conspiracy theorist tells me the same thing.
ROTFLMAO @ text talk.
-shake
BUBBA1980
10-30-2010, 07:49 AM
sorry headshake about the name mix up,see i told ya its good shit i love this 13, i cant even spell your name hahah. but what you just said made my mouth water i hope you turned your gift in to a regifing plant,{clones} :thumbsup: ya if you look at my profile and see my room i got some supper limon,11,grape crush,kemo and im getting some perma frost this next weekend, then im going to keep just the 13,11 and perma.ok may be i will keep them all i love them all, hahah, shit i would grow every kind i could if i had the time and resources. well happy growing all.:stoned:
tinytoon
10-30-2010, 10:55 AM
Man I wish I would have seen this earlier, would have loved to join in. Only one thing bothers me......... pick the name Bubba, to lazy to spell correctly, can't find a caplock key and bashing one of the most informative growers on this site but has a degree? Must be like most doctors around here and mailed away for it :D
mprobasco
11-04-2010, 01:26 AM
well here's what my plant looks like since i've been topping her. topping again tomorrow to get 16 main cola's on it:)
mprobasco
11-04-2010, 03:38 AM
here's what topping the hell outta my plants getting me. not bad for around a month old I think:)
mprobasco
11-04-2010, 11:37 PM
this is the plant I am topping like krazy. well maybe not like krazy, but as much as I can until the other ones are ready. But I am leaving time for some of the small Kola's to catch up to the ones I topped today so I can top them also to receive the same light. Well, this is the picture before I just topped.
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