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DemingNonProfit
10-22-2010, 04:04 PM
Every Medical Patient I current know is voiting for denish, and has told everyone they are close with to also vote for denish.
Looking at the poll Martinez is ahead, I do not wish to see her win, but if she does, in all honestly she will have a very hard time trying to repeal the law.
Here is a great article from NMI, explaining why.

Republican Susana Martinez has said she would work to repeal New Mexico??s medical marijuana program if she??s elected governor. But undoing the state??s three-year-old medical marijuana law would represent a major undertaking. There are only two routes ?? through the Legislature or voter referendum ?? and neither would be easy.

Repealing the law through the Legislature is unlikely

Collecting enough votes among state lawmakers to overturn the law is a long shot. The New Mexico State Senate approved the 2007 bill by a vote of 32- 3. And although state Sen. Vernon Asbill, R-Carlsbad, one of those three ??no? votes, said Monday he??d vote for repeal, he also said it didn??t seem likely to happen.

There??s been no dramatic shift in lawmakers opinions on the medical marijuana program and there probably won??t be, ??unless there is some large-scale abuse??and that hasn??t been reported,? Asbill said.

The bill passed the New Mexico House of Representatives by a smaller margin, a vote of 36-31, but changing a few votes in the House wouldn??t do the trick either: Repealing a law requires approval from both the House and Senate.

Sen. Rod Adair, R-Roswell, offered a possible explanation why a repeal would prove difficult.

??Our law was drafted very differently than in California,? said Adair, who was among a broad spectrum of bipartisan supporters of the legislation.

Unlike California, which is generally seen as much more lenient, Adair noted, New Mexico??s law is much more strict, licensing marijuana producers only after they clear several hurdles.

Repeal is possible??though unlikely??through voter referendum

An even rockier path for overturning a state law than the legislative route is through a voter referendum. But the last time New Mexico voters successfully repealed a law using a referendum was in the 1930s, according to the Legislative Council Service. Referendums in the 1950s and 1960s failed.

Talk of a voter referendum is moot anyway. Opponents missed the narrow window allowed by the state constitution. In order to repeal the law by referendum, petitions should have been filed prior to the general election immediately following the legislative session during which the law passed; in other words, in 2008.

The governor could tighten program regulations

If elected governor, Martinez could appoint a secretary of health hostile to the program, officials said. Because governors control executive branch agencies, the state??s chief executive could direct an agency to make regulations so strict that they effectively stop a program??s day-to-day operations. The Martinez didn??t answer our questions about whether she might choose such an option if elected governor.

But gutting a program to the point where producers couldn??t grow plants and patients couldn??t buy from them could pose its own challenges, one medical marijuana advocate said.

??It would really be an abuse of an agency??s authority to thwart the law by regulating medical marijuana away,? said Tamar Todd, staff attorney of the Drug Policy Alliance. ??That might be subject to a legal challenge.?

??The New Mexico Department of Health has really embraced the problem and tried to work with people,? Todd said. ??I don??t know if the governor would have the power to come in and change it.?

New Mexico??s program, intentionally strict, has grown slowly

New Mexico??s law is considered among the most restrictive of the 14 states that have medical marijuana programs. New Mexico licenses marijuana dispensaries, but only after they clear several hurdles.

The state Department of Health then regulates how the cannabis is distributed to patients, but only after they present doctor-certified documents proving they suffer from one of several qualifying illnesses.

So far, the state has licensed 11 nonprofits to produce and distribute the cannabis to 2,250 active patients, according to Deborah Busemeyer, spokeswoman for the New Mexico Department of Health.

Roughly 1,022 of those patients are licensed to grow cannabis, but only for themselves. ??They cannot distribute and sell it,? Busemeyer said.

Because the program relies on ??available resources,? meaning it doesn??t benefit from a dedicated stream of revenue, cost-saving measures aimed at shutting down the program also would hurt other programs at the Department of Health, already the target of deep cuts over the past two years.

The state health agency announced some proposals it hopes will make the medical marijuana program more financially self-sufficient.

Candidates for governor disagree on medical marijuana

Martinez has not said exactly how she might repeal the program, or if a repeal proved unworkable, what measures she might take to reduce or scale back the program. Martinez??s campaign didn??t respond to those questions from The Independent on Monday.

But Martinez reiterated her opposition to The Daily Lobo last week.

??I do not support distributing marijuana for any purposes, which is in violation of federal law,? Martinez told University of New Mexico??s student paper. ??There are many other treatments for patients in need that do not break federal law.?

Her rival, Democratic Lt. Gov. Diane Denish, approves of the law, telling the Daily Lobo that ??No one with a chronically painful or terminal illness should be denied a treatment option that has been clinically proven to reduce pain and suffering.?

DrBreeze
10-22-2010, 04:59 PM
There is more speculation in that "article" than burden of proof.

All you can do is vote and hope your elected official comes remotely close to what they preach prior to November. Any confidence in a paid, elected official that is part of a conglomerate is NOT on "our" side.

DemingNonProfit
10-22-2010, 05:06 PM
Yes I agree Dr, but the facts are still correct in what she would have to do to actually repeal the law, is it possible she could do it, yes/ Likely/no

All people can do is vote, but no reason to worry bout what May happen, i just posted this up to take some worry off folks minds,
I do hope denish wins, but you are right, these folks are not on our side.

you just have to look to california, The federal gov has said they will prosicute people for cannabis if prop 19 passes.

Basically the GOV is saying, we don;t care what the people want, YOU DO WHAT WE SAY, or go to jail!

Gov is no longer for the people by the people.

coolslayer
10-22-2010, 07:32 PM
It hasn't been for a long time.

DrBreeze
10-22-2010, 09:04 PM
Yes I agree Dr, but the facts are still correct in what she would have to do to actually repeal the law, is it possible she could do it, yes/ Likely/no

All people can do is vote, but no reason to worry bout what May happen, i just posted this up to take some worry off folks minds,
I do hope denish wins, but you are right, these folks are not on our side.

you just have to look to california, The federal gov has said they will prosicute people for cannabis if prop 19 passes.

Basically the GOV is saying, we don;t care what the people want, YOU DO WHAT WE SAY, or go to jail!

Gov is no longer for the people by the people.

You say that, but in the other hand your like Head cheerleader for Denish.....it's not like either of those greedy bastards are on OUR side in the end. It's one thing to support, and another to be a cronie robot.

DemingNonProfit
10-22-2010, 09:18 PM
So who the hell should I cheer for Doc?

I like Denish cause she supports medical cannabis. period,
Sorry if by giving her support you take it Im her cheerleader. Thats about the dumbest thing I have heard in awhile.

If I didnt support her, then someone else would be bitching that im arguing and not getting involved.

both are politicians and are two sides of the same crooked coin.

DrBreeze
10-22-2010, 09:31 PM
So who the hell should I cheer for Doc?

I like Denish cause she supports medical cannabis. period,
Sorry if by giving her support you take it Im her cheerleader. Thats about the dumbest thing I have heard in awhile.

Whoa nelly. You say "who should I cheer for" and one sentence later you say "Im sorry if you take it im her cheerleader. I won't personally attack you,but that is pretty easy to see the validity of your previous statements.



If I didnt support her, then someone else would be bitching that im arguing and not getting involved.

So, your supporting her so that someone else won't "bitch you out". Yeah, thats all the reasoning you need. :icon506:

Remember everyone, there is nothing more to a Governor than MM. No way is there any more going on in society than that. :stoned:

DemingNonProfit
10-22-2010, 09:37 PM
Well for me medical marijuana is priority number 1,

I hope denish is elected, I posted this article though showing how difficult it would be to actually change the laws.

I actually prefer Susana on a number of other topics, for instance Illegal Immigrants can get drivers licenses here.
And thats freaking stupid, and she wants to do away with that, so she has some common sense.

JohnMonad
10-22-2010, 09:46 PM
YouTube - Martinez ending ad on truithful note? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw8nJAJsOks)

MimbresValley
10-22-2010, 09:53 PM
I can hardly stand to watch the evening news anymore John,
every commercials is just mudslinging.

Pearce, heinrich, teague, denish, martinez, all of them just mudslingers,
I honestly would vote for the candidate that does not need to smear his/her opponents name in the mud to win.

alfonso2002
10-23-2010, 01:40 AM
YouTube - Martinez ending ad on truithful note? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw8nJAJsOks)
LOL

deserthealer
10-23-2010, 03:45 AM
YouTube - Martinez ending ad on truithful note? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw8nJAJsOks)

word .. :S2:

coolslayer
10-24-2010, 04:37 PM
You say that, but in the other hand your like Head cheerleader for Denish.....it's not like either of those greedy bastards are on OUR side in the end. It's one thing to support, and another to be a cronie robot.

I think a lot of people want Denish because she will keep the NM MMJ program.
Politicians can't be trusted.

alfonso2002
10-24-2010, 05:01 PM
Whoa nelly. You say "who should I cheer for" and one sentence later you say "Im sorry if you take it im her cheerleader. I won't personally attack you,but that is pretty easy to see the validity of your previous statements.




So, your supporting her so that someone else won't "bitch you out". Yeah, thats all the reasoning you need. :icon506:

Remember everyone, there is nothing more to a Governor than MM. No way is there any more going on in society than that. :stoned:

This politics is all a bunch of bulls@#$ But when someone representing me in the position of power (Governor) comes out openly saying that they do not support A program that" I do support" and uses the excuse that It is against Federal law will not get MY VOTE.

alfonso2002
10-26-2010, 11:46 AM
Dear Alfonso,

Every time I turn around, I see political campaign ads getting more and more ridiculous. It's gotten to the point where the ads not only say nothing about the candidate's positions on the issues, they are often actually bizarre.

But I've just seen what must be the WACKIEST political video I've EVER seen and I thought you'd get a kick out of it, too ?? Jack Phillips 2010 - The Better Choice (http://www.JackPhillipsForAmerica.com)

DON'T WAIT TO WATCH IT ?? I think they may take the video down once they realize their mistake!! Hard to believe, but they're churning these ads out so fast, it was only a matter of time before an ad went wrong.

Enjoy! Jack Phillips 2010 - The Better Choice (http://www.jackphillipsforamerica.com/)

Washedout
10-27-2010, 07:14 AM
What do you think the chances are for former Gov.Gary E Johnson coming in and barn storming for Denish?I realise that they are from opposing parties but wasn't Johnson the one that ushered in MMJ for New Mexico?Wouldn't he feel like someone was sending his baby to slaughter? Just wondering if he could show up and pull some higher numbers for Denish.

JohnMonad
10-27-2010, 08:12 AM
Lets leave messages at his website. I just left this

Gov. Johnson Please HELP us in New Mexico. Martinez will try to repeal the medical Cannabis Program. You don't want that to happen. Don't let her take our medicine away! Do Something!

Contact Us | Our America (http://ouramericainitiative.com/contact-us)

Totah Sam
10-27-2010, 08:30 AM
This politics is all a bunch of bulls@#$ But when someone representing me in the position of power (Governor) comes out openly saying that they do not support A program that" I do support" and uses the excuse that It is against Federal law will not get MY VOTE.

Amen, brother.

As the good Dr. says, "All you can do is vote and hope your elected official comes remotely close to what they preach prior to November. Any confidence in a paid, elected official that is part of a conglomerate is NOT on "our" side."

Then I will vote on the ONE issue that I know Denish will support. And I have. Absentee ballot. My vote is in.

alfonso2002
10-27-2010, 02:47 PM
Lets leave messages at his website. I just left this

Gov. Johnson Please HELP us in New Mexico. Martinez will try to repeal the medical Cannabis Program. You don't want that to happen. Don't let her take our medicine away! Do Something!

Contact Us | Our America (http://ouramericainitiative.com/contact-us)

My message has been sent hope it will help.

MimbresValley
10-27-2010, 02:55 PM
What do you think the chances are for former Gov.Gary E Johnson coming in and barn storming for Denish?I realise that they are from opposing parties but wasn't Johnson the one that ushered in MMJ for New Mexico?Wouldn't he feel like someone was sending his baby to slaughter? Just wondering if he could show up and pull some higher numbers for Denish.

Great Idea washedout.

julieack
11-02-2010, 06:23 AM
I would like to know where/who these polls come from. Does anyone know? I am a registered voter, as is my mom, my brother, etc. etc. None of us have been polled.
So, I guess I am missing something here, but I would really like to know where that information comes from.
Is it the media or what? Is that what the "polls" are?

coolslayer
11-02-2010, 05:28 PM
What do you think the chances are for former Gov.Gary E Johnson coming in and barn storming for Denish?I realise that they are from opposing parties but wasn't Johnson the one that ushered in MMJ for New Mexico?Wouldn't he feel like someone was sending his baby to slaughter? Just wondering if he could show up and pull some higher numbers for Denish.

Johnson voted for Martinez.