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Torog
04-24-2005, 02:47 PM
The Wrath of God
By: Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com
Thursday, Apr 21, 2005

The elevation of Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger to head the Roman Catholic Church is a clear and concise message from the College of Cardinals: "We are royally teed off." Everybody knows that the new Pontiff is a tough guy who will not only throw the moneychangers out of the Temple, he'll kick them in the behind as they leave the building. Pope Benedict believes strongly in good and evil and he's not shy about pointing fingers. His letter to American bishops about politicians and abortion cost John Kerry dearly in the last election.

The Cardinals, of course, perfectly understand that Benedict is not exactly a cuddly guy, and will not be "reaching out," as they say in California. But his hard-line theological approach appeals to Church elders who have had enough.

In the past three decades, church attendance in the USA and Western Europe has dropped through the floor. Just 25% of American Catholics attend mass weekly and the number is in the single digits in long-standing Catholic countries like France. Secularism now rules the western world, and there are not enough priests to serve the remaining faithful. How do you say things are not good in Latin?

In the face of this spiritual decline, the Catholic Church has decided to make a stand. It will not compromise and it will not pander. You either toe the line or hit the bricks. Up to you.

As a life-long Catholic, I don't like this approach, but I understand it. The west is now besieged by forces that want to wipe spirituality completely out of the public square. The American Civil Liberties Union is the point organization in this effort. It supports all abortion-on-demand, including late term, no parental consent for minors having abortions, euthanasia with consent, gay marriage, and the free speech rights of the North American Man-Boy Love Association, which has posted instructions on how to rape children on its website.

The ACLU opposes public funding for the Boy Scouts because their oath mentions God, the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools, public displays of the baby Jesus at Christmas and any restraint on internet pornography in public libraries.

For the most part, the western media sympathizes with the ACLU and promotes its point-of-view. Thus, the secular message is a constant in our society, and the hits just keep on coming.

And where is the opposing point-of-view? Well, there are a few media outlets that give traditionalists a fair shake, but very few.

So the Catholic Cardinals feel isolated and surrounded. They can preach to the choir on Sunday but get battered by the news and entertainment media the rest of the week. A strong Papal voice countering that situation is soothing. And that's why Cardinal Ratzinger is now Pope Benedict XVI.

I believe organized religion can be a champion of human rights and provide resistance to secular societies which, if they progress much further, will never be able to defeat the fanatical Islamic fundamentalists. The more permissive the western world becomes, the more it rejects discipline and avoids confronting evil, the greater the danger to freedom will be.

Pope Benedict is facing a rapidly changing world and perhaps he will be a strong and persuasive shepherd against evil. The danger is that he will be so rigid that he will erode the spiritual core even further, thereby helping the secularists.

But the new Pope may have an epiphany and realize good people will rally against evil if the case of clear and present danger is made rationally and with compassion. I am praying that happens. The other side is hoping it will not.

F L E S H
04-24-2005, 03:14 PM
I don't mind much this new pope, for the reason that I don't think he's such a hardliner everyone makes him out to. He was the head of Doctrine of the Faith thingy before he became pope, and it was his job to be very strict on matters of faith and dogma. But people have a really short memory. Remember John XXIII, the guy who called for Vatican II, one of the strongest reforms movements in Catholic history? Well, before he was pope, he was one of the most conservative cardinals out there. Go figure. So in other words, yes, I am defending Benedict XVI.

Another thing to remember is that he was John Paul II's right hand man, and he didn't take a decision without consulting Ratzinger. So there's no reason to believe that he will be any different than the last pope, except maybe for all that travelling, since he's older...

However, it doesn't stop that article from being pure bullshit from the first word, as Bill O'Reilly is a complete idiot. There's a lot more than just You vs ACLU. And there's nothing wrong, and everything right, with secularism. How can organized religion fight Islamic fundamentalism? Are you forgetting that Islamic fundamentalism results from organized religion? Fucking hypocrisy.

And believe me, there's nothing spiritual about organized religion in any case. It's a political state, and all you have to do to be a part of it is repeat the bullshit other people tell you. Chrisitian spirituality has gone the way of the dodo about 1,500 years ago. Now, you're a Christian if your against abortion, against gays, against any other religion. What's spiritual about that?

Torog
04-25-2005, 03:38 PM
Howdy FLESH,

You ask: " How can organized religion fight Islamic fundamentalism ? "

Ever hear of the Crusades ? Maybe it's time for the Second Crusade..?

Christians got organized and put a Christian man in the White House,2 terms in a row..despite all the secularists. Just wait and see,what organized Christians can do..we're gonna take this country back,from the amoral Left..and make it a decent place to raise children again.

Have a good one....

Delta9
04-25-2005, 07:19 PM
I don't go to Church because I was educated at a public school and then attended a Catholic University and found out that Catholic officials are dogmatic jack-offs. I don't share opinons with those that run the Church so I therefore don't support them, their worthless charities, or their dictoral teachings.

Delta9
04-25-2005, 07:32 PM
Jesus don't pack a bong. In fact A priest would turn you into the authorites for confessing you sins. A Christian does the right thing, they do what any good citizen would do we they see someone smoking a joint. they call the police. They would proudly swear before the court and testify that they witnessed you buy the drugs. And they would justly put you were every drug user belongs, in jail.

Nullific
04-25-2005, 07:45 PM
Ever hear of the Crusades ? Maybe it's time for the Second Crusade..?

Christians got organized and put a Christian man in the White House,2 terms in a row..despite all the secularists. Just wait and see,what organized Christians can do..we're gonna take this country back,from the amoral Left..and make it a decent place to raise children again.

You're a fuckin piece of shit. Theres already been a second crusade, and a third and millions of people died for NOTHING. You need to get it through your head that not all the fucking muslims are fundamentalists like YOU.
You need to realize that this country was not built to be a nation safe to raise children. Beyond that, all you're doing is using 'children' to gain sympathy from people...you go from MUSLIMS WAR to LIBERALS threaten our CHILDREN MORALS. :eek:
You want war? You want people to die? Well i'd fucking kill you in an instant if I ever got the chance...so go ahead, kill the fucking muslims and the 'liberals', turn America into a theocracy and make "God" your leader; show humans world wide that ever after hundreds of thousands of years people still never learn from the past.

amsterdam
04-25-2005, 07:50 PM
wow nullific,you sound like you have some issues you arent dealing with.

F L E S H
04-25-2005, 09:16 PM
Meh, you misread my post, but it doesn't really matter, I know exactly how you'd respond in any case.

FYI, there's already been 4 crusades, each more disastrous than the last. You should read up on that kind of stuff, I'm sure you'd love it...

One day, Torog, you'll realize that 'fundy' muslims, like you call them, exist because of people like you. Your intolerance breeds intolerance in others who are sick of your arrogance, who are sick of Americans like you (not all Americans, obviously) that think that they have God 'on their side.' Well guess what, they think they have God on their side too, so it only comes dowwn to your word against theirs.

I hope one day you'll realize that organizations like the ACLU (who I think are idiots too... extremism on either side is wrong) exist just because you exist. There is a happy middle, and once people start to realize it, then maybe things will get better. But only when you realize you're as much a war- and hate-monger as Islamic fundamentalists are, and only when extreme liberals like the ACLU realize that their way is just as wrong as yours. All you hear about in American politics are the extremes, and that is the heart of the problem.

amsterdam
04-26-2005, 01:31 PM
politics are way to extreme these days,people gotta chill.the world isn't gonna end!!life is good and only getting better.

F L E S H
04-26-2005, 02:04 PM
politics are way to extreme these days,people gotta chill.the world isn't gonna end!!life is good and only getting better.
At least we can agree on something :D

amsterdam
04-26-2005, 02:13 PM
look flesh,i am not one of those folks who thinks that anyone who has a different opinion than me is stupid and evil(even if they are),i like to debate,it's all in good fun.anything i say is only my opinion and thats all i got.

i accept you flesh as the communist you are!!(j/k,hahaha)

Torog
04-26-2005, 02:16 PM
You're a f*ckin piece of sh*t. Theres already been a second crusade, and a third and millions of people died for NOTHING. You need to get it through your head that not all the f*cking muslims are fundamentalists like YOU.
You need to realize that this country was not built to be a nation safe to raise children. Beyond that, all you're doing is using 'children' to gain sympathy from people...you go from MUSLIMS WAR to LIBERALS threaten our CHILDREN MORALS. :eek:
You want war? You want people to die? Well i'd f*cking kill you in an instant if I ever got the chance...so go ahead, kill the f*cking muslims and the 'liberals', turn America into a theocracy and make "God" your leader; show humans world wide that ever after hundreds of thousands of years people still never learn from the past.
Howdy Nullific,

I don't want to kill anyone..but I will defend myself and my country--with deadly force,if it's required. It's the muslims,who wish to destroy western civilization,they attacked America and we're defending ourselves ..it's pretty simple to understand. As for liberals,they're h*ll-bent on destroyng family values and and banning all Christian values,beliefs and heritage. That's simple to understand too..so..why don't you ?

Have a good one ....

amsterdam
04-26-2005, 02:20 PM
it's because liberalism is a neurological disorder.they can't help themselves.the best solution is to smile and let them eat themselves.

amsterdam
04-26-2005, 02:22 PM
At least we can agree on something :D


hey flesh,do you believe in evolution?i have a question about it, :confused:

F L E S H
04-26-2005, 02:34 PM
hey flesh,do you believe in evolution?i have a question about it, :confused:
Ask, and I will enlighten you :D

amsterdam
04-26-2005, 02:39 PM
if humans evolved from the ape,monkey etc why are there still apes,monkeys etc.?why are there no monkeys in the transition period?did we come from 1 type of ape?

sorry,my biology class was after my lunch.

F L E S H
04-26-2005, 03:07 PM
sorry,my biology class was after my lunch.
you can be pretty funny sometimes :D

The reason there are still chimps/gorillas/etc. is because we didn't evolve from them.

Look at it this way: Look at how many different kind of cats we have around the world today, like lions, tigers, leopards, cheetahs, ocelots, lynx, right down to our little house cats. If you go back far enough in time, there was only 1 kind of cat, which was the ancestor to all the felines living today. Each kind of cat evolved separately from the others because they split up a long time, lived in a completely different environment, ate completely different kinds of prey, etc. Now, the question your asking would be similar to asking, "if there are tigers (the biggest, strongest feline predators out there), why are there still jaguars, house cats, etc.?"

Because they aren't the sme animals anymore, because they didn't go extinct (yet), because they developped in COMPLETELY different ways (in case you hadn't noticed... :D )

The biggest misconception about evolution is to say that we evolved from those primates that are still around today. We didn't evolve from chimps, but if you go back in time far enough you'll find that humans and chimps evolved from the same species, which now doesn't exist.

We evolved from early hominids, or early 'human-like' animals, which don't exist anymore. However, all those millions of years-old fossils we're finding are of those early hominids, and those extinct species are ones which we evolved from.

Hope that's clear, if not, tell me.

amsterdam
04-26-2005, 03:11 PM
that was good,i will be honest with you,i have no idea how we got here!!!!!!!!!!!!!i am glad we dont look like those scary ass hominids.

F L E S H
04-26-2005, 03:20 PM
that was good,i will be honest with you,i have no idea how we got here!!!!!!!!!!!!!i am glad we dont look like those scary ass hominids.


Agreed.

But like I said, we didn't evolve from monkeys, we evolved from an older, cave-man looking hominid, who evolved from an even older, tree-dwelling hominid... Like I said, if you go far back enough in time, sure, monkeys and humans have a common ancestor.... But if you go even further back in time, to the very beginning of life, every living, brteathing, growing plant and animal evolved from that first cell, the beginning of life.... If there's any place for God in the grand scheme of things, I would say it was in the appearance of the first cell.

Think about it, it fits perfectly... ADAM is the first cell ever to appear. How do cells reproduce? By splitting themselves, and voila! you have 2 cells. How was EVE created in the Bible? She literally split from ADAM. So when God said go forth and multiply, he wasn't kidding, we know how fast cells can multiply simply by splitting....

Even evolution is in the Bible :D

amsterdam
04-26-2005, 03:22 PM
ya know,i was thinking,i hope god is a 300lb black lesbian woman with tats andstuff!that would piss everyone off!

amsterdam
04-26-2005, 03:25 PM
or if Jesus came back with cornrows and a 40oz?totally gangsta,64 impala and all!

Nullific
04-26-2005, 06:43 PM
Im not a fucking liberal. The man is calling for another crusade...a fucking crusade.
He said himself oh no hes not for killing anybody...unless you're a muslim because then you're a threat to his country oh yah.
Fuck Torog, fuck you and fuck this board.


If there are any mods out there I wish for my account to be deleted.

amsterdam
04-26-2005, 07:07 PM
Im not a fucking liberal. The man is calling for another crusade...a fucking crusade.
He said himself oh no hes not for killing anybody...unless you're a muslim because then you're a threat to his country oh yah.
Fuck Torog, fuck you and fuck this board.


If there are any mods out there I wish for my account to be deleted.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!c'mon kid,who cares what anyone said,IT IS A COMPUTER!!! :D

Nullific
04-26-2005, 07:13 PM
Look you fuck, you don't know me. I've been tolerant of this mother fucker and you long enough. You want to be all apathetic and shit but yah let the war go on, im sure you like Torogs crusade idea too huh?
Oh no life is good theres nothing suspicious going on...no conspiracies nothing. Except the :eek: Muslims trying to wipe out "family values" and Xtianity in our western society. Americans are dying, Iraqies are dying...life is good though yah.
Religion will be the end of humanity.

amsterdam
04-26-2005, 07:18 PM
whatever makes you feel better i guess?

yes sir,life is tooooooooooooooooooooooo goooooooooooooooooooood!

hopefully you will awake when you get a little wiser and see that people dying in war,hunger,murder,suicide will never ever ever ever ever change.thats what humans from every color and religon do.thats life son.

i dont need to know you to understand you.you write and talk EXACTLY like my friends and i used to do when we were 17.the exact same.

people have been saying religon will be the end of us for thousands and thousands oof years.well guess what,we are all still waiting??LOL

XTC
04-26-2005, 08:13 PM
Howdy FLESH,

You ask: " How can organized religion fight Islamic fundamentalism ? "

Ever hear of the Crusades ? Maybe it's time for the Second Crusade..?

Christians got organized and put a Christian man in the White House,2 terms in a row..despite all the secularists. Just wait and see,what organized Christians can do..we're gonna take this country back,from the amoral Left..and make it a decent place to raise children again.

Have a good one....


I surely hope not..... Or else I might move somewhere else.
But anyway. Morals mean different things to different people. I am pro choice, I am left sided, I supported terri schavio and decision the courts ruled. That was no life to live as a paper weight or vegi. I voted for Kerry. Serperation from Church and Goverment. It means nothing to Republicans as far as I see. Look at other countries where Religion dicates Goverment. Like.. Hmm Iran, Iraq, and much of the Middle East.

America is supposed to be the Home of the Free, a Diverse group of people from different races, creeds, religions, etc. Who said Chrisitanity had to right approach. I am not saying the left side has all the answers, Just More of them. I am just saying when you push religion onto people. Looks what happens. (looks to the Middle East)

amsterdam
04-26-2005, 08:25 PM
I surely hope not..... Or else I might move somewhere else.
But anyway. Morals mean different things to different people. I am pro choice, I am left sided, I supported terri schavio and decision the courts ruled. That was no life to live as a paper weight or vegi. I voted for Kerry. Serperation from Church and Goverment. It means nothing to Republicans as far as I see. Look at other countries where Religion dicates Goverment. Like.. Hmm Iran, Iraq, and much of the Middle East.

America is supposed to be the Home of the Free, a Diverse group of people from different races, creeds, religions, etc. Who said Chrisitanity had to right approach. I am not saying the left side has all the answers, Just More of them. I am just saying when you push religion onto people. Looks what happens. (looks to the Middle East)


the dems and kerry have NO ANSWERS.Thats why nation wide the democrats are known as the party of NO!!!no ideas,no solutions,no plans.

i cant even you believe you said that look what happens B.S.!you are a f--king sympathizer with terrorists.be way out on the left if you want,but keep that silly ass stuff to yourself traitor.no balls.

thankfully we control this country now and as far as things look now,we will for a long time.please tell me you want hillary to run.hahaha.sheep. :cool:

XTC
04-26-2005, 08:36 PM
Whoa Whoa.. Whats with the personal Attack. Dont question my Patriotism. Okay. I was all for going in on Afganistan, but it seemed like Weeks later. We're raping Iraq looking for this mythical Weapons of mass destruction. Weapons of Mass Destraction is more like it. Were in Iraq for one purpose. OIL! There are countless other countries with Terrorists cells. But Bush used Iraq and terrorism as a scapegoat for Oil and money. He is draining our deficit to its limit with with war on terrorism. If I am a sheep then you my friend are Blind for not seeing the bigger picture. Troops are dieing for Money and Oil. Nothing more. I support the troops, but not this War.

amsterdam
04-26-2005, 09:09 PM
wierd how you dont see these huge protests by millions of iraqis?theres more lefty idiots upset about the war here in America than there are in iraq.

that oil line isnt even used by idiot pundits anymore.no one who pays extremely close attention to politics believes that cop out michael moore blah-blah.

isnt it strange how the people who fight the wars and die for our country are about80-90% on the right of center of politics?think about that.

the lefts ideas and thoughts are what cost them the election.they made idiots out of themselves.it was great.cant wait for '08.

Frequency
04-26-2005, 10:51 PM
...

America is a country that is built on the mold of hypocritical power. This country is run by white batteries that charge in churches, schools, etc. The ignorance at the fact that you do not recognize these faults...is your own fault Torog. You need to refresh your outlook on America as a country, you seem to be another drone that is fed by the media. The media's connections are washing the brains of America's youth; it is what really destroys a civilization, not religion. Whenever you look through your weak eyes, Torog, I want you to notice something you probably have never thought of or seen in your lifetime. Take the time and appereciate the ability to express arguments without the bland eyes of a Texan. Be a persona and get situated with another culture, somewhere beyond your hometown. Live up to your country if you let so much respect pervade from your heart. Be a revolutionary, not a follower.

Religion, segregation, and the media are all in a maze. It is up to you if you wish to depict the way...

Torog
04-27-2005, 01:24 PM
...

America is a country that is built on the mold of hypocritical power. This country is run by white batteries that charge in churches, schools, etc. The ignorance at the fact that you do not recognize these faults...is your own fault Torog. You need to refresh your outlook on America as a country, you seem to be another drone that is fed by the media. The media's connections are washing the brains of America's youth; it is what really destroys a civilization, not religion. Whenever you look through your weak eyes, Torog, I want you to notice something you probably have never thought of or seen in your lifetime. Take the time and appereciate the ability to express arguments without the bland eyes of a Texan. Be a persona and get situated with another culture, somewhere beyond your hometown. Live up to your country if you let so much respect pervade from your heart. Be a revolutionary, not a follower.

Religion, segregation, and the media are all in a maze. It is up to you if you wish to depict the way...
Howdy Frequency,

I'm 46 years old and I grew up in America,during a time,when it was still safe for kids to play outside,since that time,I've witnessed the creeping effects of liberalism,on both America and our youths,some of it,has been good,I suppose..but for the most part,it's been negative. Liberalism,insists that we build our houses,on a foundation of sand..no clearly defined morality or stable,traditional,nuclear families..just one slippery slope after another..is it any wonder,that society is confused ?

I do have direct experience with another culture,that of fundy islam,in Saudia Arabia..when I went there in the '80's..to drill water wells. That experience,taught me,that America,truly is the greatest nation this world has ever known,and I've seen what a country is like,when ruled by a theocracy..I don't want America to turn into a theocracy,either. I also know what's it's like,to live in the 'culture' of yankee's,when I was stationed at Chicago..I had to stop being Texas friendly,because the folks there,thought I was trying to con them or something..that's pretty daggum sad.

Just because I follow the Gospel of Jesus Christ,doesn't mean that I stopped thinking for myself,either..go ahead and make that mistake about me and folks of Faith..and see where it gits ya..so far..it's cost the democrats,2 elections.

I do believe,that We the People,have the right to alter or abolish,our goverment,as we see fit..I stand at the ready..to exercise that clause..if need be.

Have a good one ....

XTC
04-27-2005, 01:38 PM
So you think that American Troops dieing in Iraq day in and day out because the lies their Goverment told these young men and women. Our Enviroment going straight to hell ever since Good Ol W came in to power. You know Ozone layer absurbs 95% of the sun's nasty energy so we all don't fry like ants being thrown to a magnifying glass. Good Ol W knows that the Ozone is in a pretty bad spot. There are several things we can do about it to protect the plantet. But Georgo is to pre occupied with this War on "Terrorism" to do anything about it. These things if acted upon within 4 yrs could help the Ozone Immenesly. But No The Ozone isnt important. Why? Because The Bible doesn't say anything about an Ozone Layer.
Among other things Good Ol W has done. A national deficit so crapticular its... unbufucking believable. And Gays. Watch out for those gay people and their secret society of evil villians. Courrpting Young Youth. Oh no... Utter BS there. You know if it wasn't for The Bible which btw was written my men to govern them I believe, These right wing radicals wouldnt have a leg to stand on with This whole Gay issue. In the same verse of the bible where it says its a Sin to be gay. It also says that man should be put to death if he lays with a woman during her period. Quick Ammend that one in the Consititution cause The Bible told us to.

amsterdam
04-27-2005, 01:45 PM
So you think that American Troops dieing in Iraq day in and day out because the lies their Goverment told these young men and women. Our Enviroment going straight to hell ever since Good Ol W came in to power. You know Ozone layer absurbs 95% of the sun's nasty energy so we all don't fry like ants being thrown to a magnifying glass. Good Ol W knows that the Ozone is in a pretty bad spot. There are several things we can do about it to protect the plantet. But Georgo is to pre occupied with this War on "Terrorism" to do anything about it. These things if acted upon within 4 yrs could help the Ozone Immenesly. But No The Ozone isnt important. Why? Because The Bible doesn't say anything about an Ozone Layer.
Among other things Good Ol W has done. A national deficit so crapticular its... unbufucking believable. And Gays. Watch out for those gay people and their secret society of evil villians. Courrpting Young Youth. Oh no... Utter BS there. You know if it wasn't for The Bible which btw was written my men to govern them I believe, These right wing radicals wouldnt have a leg to stand on with This whole Gay issue. In the same verse of the bible where it says its a Sin to be gay. It also says that man should be put to death if he lays with a woman during her period. Quick Ammend that one in the Consititution cause The Bible told us to.


yes,the enviroment is alllllllllllll w's fault!!it's terrible.lol!

if you dont think we are at war you are in reality nuts!
believe me,i am for gay marriage and i am pro-choice so i am no neo-con but the far lefties are a joke and are laughed at all over this country.

you do know that the gay marriage vote lost in 14 states on nov 2?

the MAJORITY think it is stupid.

XTC
04-27-2005, 01:47 PM
Well I think Fat people are stupid. Quick Annul all there marriage licenses and lets label them too. They Courrpt youth in being obessed and fat and die with their tasty sugars.

Also the MAJORITY during WWII in Germany liked Hitler...

amsterdam
04-27-2005, 01:48 PM
why are there more idiot kids who really believe moore and throw rocks at starbucks when buisness lesders come to town who protest the war than iraqis??(ya know,the people who actually LIVE in iraq)

amsterdam
04-27-2005, 02:03 PM
Well I think Fat people are stupid. Quick Annul all there marriage licenses and lets label them too. They Courrpt youth in being obessed and fat and die with their tasty sugars.

Also the MAJORITY during WWII in Germany liked Hitler...


america is a fat ass country,sad.

all you have is what you hear on air america,all those cute catchphrases.lol
regurgitate that somewhere else. :cool:

Torog
04-27-2005, 02:11 PM
why are there more idiot kids who really believe moore and throw rocks at starbucks when buisness lesders come to town who protest the war than iraqis??(ya know,the people who actually LIVE in iraq)
Howdy amsterdam,

Because the 'kids' are being manipulated by sophisticated and highly experienced,socialist and communist propagandists,who've been here for decades in this country..and disguise themselves,behind such front organizations,like Move-On.org..couple that,with liberals rewritting history in a pc manner, and ya have the current results.

Say..I hope that the yankee's in Evanston,are more friendly than the ones in Chicago..are they ?

Have a good one !

XTC
04-27-2005, 02:16 PM
Howdy amsterdam,

Because the 'kids' are being manipulated by sophisticated and highly experienced,socialist and communist propagandists,who've been here for decades in this country..and disguise themselves,behind such front organizations,like Move-On.org..couple that,with liberals rewritting history in a pc manner, and ya have the current results.

Say..I hope that the yankee's in Evanston,are more friendly than the ones in Chicago..are they ?

Have a good one !


See this is what I am talking about. This Utter BS. Communist ways. What tabloid did you read that one in. You know Tor, I respect you and all and you at times admit your faults or ideas are somewhat ignorant. Then you turn around and post this BS. That Demo's and Liberals have a secret evil society that whats to rule the world. It's just BS

This is why I find most Republicans and people with Jesus on their bumper sticker scary people

amsterdam
04-27-2005, 02:17 PM
its really not what i thought it would be.i was in st.paul mn where it was rabid liberal,it isnt like that here at all,even in chicago.the people who live next door are both nice and immigrants from israel and they still have their bush cheney signs in the front yard.

amsterdam
04-27-2005, 02:21 PM
See this is what I am talking about. This Utter BS. Communist ways. What tabloid did you read that one in. You know Tor, I respect you and all and you at times admit your faults or ideas are somewhat ignorant. Then you turn around and post this BS. That Demo's and Liberals have a secret evil society that whats to rule the world. It's just BS

This is why I find most Republicans and people with Jesus on their bumper sticker scary people


the communist party of america donated 2 million dollars to kerry's campaign??????open your eyes my friend.

i dont think the dems are evil at all,just pussies and crybabies.

i never go to church,believe in gat marriage and proi-choice.i am a republican all the way.the dems party is boring with no ideas.obstructionists.

Looker
04-27-2005, 03:11 PM
you can be pretty funny sometimes :D

The reason there are still chimps/gorillas/etc. is because we didn't evolve from them.

Look at it this way: Look at how many different kind of cats we have around the world today, like lions, tigers, leopards, cheetahs, ocelots, lynx, right down to our little house cats. If you go back far enough in time, there was only 1 kind of cat, which was the ancestor to all the felines living today. Each kind of cat evolved separately from the others because they split up a long time, lived in a completely different environment, ate completely different kinds of prey, etc. Now, the question your asking would be similar to asking, "if there are tigers (the biggest, strongest feline predators out there), why are there still jaguars, house cats, etc.?"

Because they aren't the sme animals anymore, because they didn't go extinct (yet), because they developped in COMPLETELY different ways (in case you hadn't noticed... :D )

The biggest misconception about evolution is to say that we evolved from those primates that are still around today. We didn't evolve from chimps, but if you go back in time far enough you'll find that humans and chimps evolved from the same species, which now doesn't exist.

We evolved from early hominids, or early 'human-like' animals, which don't exist anymore. However, all those millions of years-old fossils we're finding are of those early hominids, and those extinct species are ones which we evolved from.

Hope that's clear, if not, tell me.

HEY WATCH IT THERE....

F L E S H
04-27-2005, 04:10 PM
I love monkeys!! :D

Frequency
04-27-2005, 11:23 PM
the communist party of america donated 2 million dollars to kerry's campaign??????open your eyes my friend.

i dont think the dems are evil at all,just pussies and crybabies.

i never go to church,believe in gat marriage and proi-choice.i am a republican all the way.the dems party is boring with no ideas.obstructionists.


You have stepped out of line friend. No more will I take the time to read your one-sided posts. If you have so much faith behind your "Republican" party than you would have the effort to live with higher standards, rather than totally establish the democrat society as "pussies" or "crybabies". What if I poked out all the monotonous republicans out of a puzzle and chucked them on the side, then after label them all "rednecks"? This labeling issue has to end my friend; you have a head of stereotypical comments. If you took the time to understand politics and study the legit issues with our government, then you would alter your demanding words. Saying that, I am only imparting the logic I have gathered through various years as a teenager. I might be young, but I can atleast honestly state that I can properly comprehend a majority of the lies we have all been fed on the spoon of the media. Straighten up man, if you have such powerful beliefs than defend them with formal arguments...rather than deny any other opinion that is read. We all have hearts, we all have brains, we all have feelings. You will never be able to classify one (stable) genre of people with all the random shambled diversities of people around the world. Knowing that, I can wholeheartedly say your words, at the moment, are composed of pure, vile, and grotesque thought.


Try and be unique....

Karma will get you in the long run anyways...


A good start would be to change that ignorant and obscene avatar...old man. :)

2600
04-28-2005, 11:37 AM
You have stepped out of line friend. No more will I take the time to read your one-sided posts. If you have so much faith behind your "Republican" party than you would have the effort to live with higher standards, rather than totally establish the democrat society as "pussies" or "crybabies". What if I poked out all the monotonous republicans out of a puzzle and chucked them on the side, then after label them all "rednecks"? This labeling issue has to end my friend; you have a head of stereotypical comments. If you took the time to understand politics and study the legit issues with our government, then you would alter your demanding words. Saying that, I am only imparting the logic I have gathered through various years as a teenager. I might be young, but I can atleast honestly state that I can properly comprehend a majority of the lies we have all been fed on the spoon of the media. Straighten up man, if you have such powerful beliefs than defend them with formal arguments...rather than deny any other opinion that is read. We all have hearts, we all have brains, we all have feelings. You will never be able to classify one (stable) genre of people with all the random shambled diversities of people around the world. Knowing that, I can wholeheartedly say your words, at the moment, are composed of pure, vile, and grotesque thought.


Try and be unique....

Karma will get you in the long run anyways...


A good start would be to change that ignorant and obscene avatar...old man. :)

LOL. It almost sounds like some of you regard political thought like you do fashion. "Uh, redneck republican? Soo last week. How drab."

Amsterdam I appreciate your approach to the issues- you take a case by case basis of EACH issue, not simply pick a camp and find out what your beliefs are according to what side you pick. "Ok, so I'm on the blue team, now how do we feel about abortion and interstate freeway routing funds again?"

amsterdam
04-28-2005, 01:51 PM
You have stepped out of line friend. No more will I take the time to read your one-sided posts. If you have so much faith behind your "Republican" party than you would have the effort to live with higher standards, rather than totally establish the democrat society as "pussies" or "crybabies". What if I poked out all the monotonous republicans out of a puzzle and chucked them on the side, then after label them all "rednecks"? This labeling issue has to end my friend; you have a head of stereotypical comments. If you took the time to understand politics and study the legit issues with our government, then you would alter your demanding words. Saying that, I am only imparting the logic I have gathered through various years as a teenager. I might be young, but I can atleast honestly state that I can properly comprehend a majority of the lies we have all been fed on the spoon of the media. Straighten up man, if you have such powerful beliefs than defend them with formal arguments...rather than deny any other opinion that is read. We all have hearts, we all have brains, we all have feelings. You will never be able to classify one (stable) genre of people with all the random shambled diversities of people around the world. Knowing that, I can wholeheartedly say your words, at the moment, are composed of pure, vile, and grotesque thought.


Try and be unique....

Karma will get you in the long run anyways...


A good start would be to change that ignorant and obscene avatar...old man.be :)


i studied political science at NORTHWESTERN university son,believe me when i say that i know there are tons of bad republicans,but there are NO good democrats.

i am stereotypical,thats what the democrat party is kiddo.they depend on minorities being uneducated and not interested.THEY NEED THAT.dont you guys see that.they arent the party of the working man anymore.look where ALL there hard money comes from.do you even know what hard money is frequency?no.

if i took the time to understand politics??what are you 16?lol!stay in school kiddo before you blabble on and on!~lol

amsterdam
04-28-2005, 02:02 PM
You have stepped out of line friend. No more will I take the time to read your one-sided posts. If you have so much faith behind your "Republican" party than you would have the effort to live with higher standards, rather than totally establish the democrat society as "pussies" or "crybabies". What if I poked out all the monotonous republicans out of a puzzle and chucked them on the side, then after label them all "rednecks"? This labeling issue has to end my friend; you have a head of stereotypical comments. If you took the time to understand politics and study the legit issues with our government, then you would alter your demanding words. Saying that, I am only imparting the logic I have gathered through various years as a teenager. I might be young, but I can atleast honestly state that I can properly comprehend a majority of the lies we have all been fed on the spoon of the media. Straighten up man, if you have such powerful beliefs than defend them with formal arguments...rather than deny any other opinion that is read. We all have hearts, we all have brains, we all have feelings. You will never be able to classify one (stable) genre of people with all the random shambled diversities of people around the world. Knowing that, I can wholeheartedly say your words, at the moment, are composed of pure, vile, and grotesque thought.


Try and be unique....

Karma will get you in the long run anyways...


A good start would be to change that ignorant and obscene avatar...old man. :)


dont like my avatar??ITS A JOKE!!!!!your such a sensitive boy arent you??

Frequency
04-28-2005, 05:01 PM
i studied political science at NORTHWESTERN university son,believe me when i say that i know there are tons of bad republicans,but there are NO good democrats.

i am stereotypical,thats what the democrat party is kiddo.they depend on minorities being uneducated and not interested.THEY NEED THAT.dont you guys see that.they arent the party of the working man anymore.look where ALL there hard money comes from.do you even know what hard money is frequency?no.

if i took the time to understand politics??what are you 16?lol!stay in school kiddo before you blabble on and on!~lol

fifteen.

c.sativa
04-28-2005, 08:34 PM
well i think i'v got some proof of ev.theori