400 mh and 400 hps hydro

[kato420]

Hello friends! been getting bags from friends only the good stuff cuz if it dont have a name i dont smoke it lol. Not sure where to buy the real seeds without getting ripped off heard all the horror stories. Anyways my friend went to get the usual and this stufff looked like it been under some stress and we ended up finding one seed in the whole oz. So i thought what the hell and planted it in rock wool and just got the nutes up to full strength...adv gro bloom mic. i have lights on a 24/7 sch. 1 mh 400 and 1 hps 400 it seems to be loving it. ive always heard about using both is it really worth it? and 18/6 vs 24/0 u always get mixed thoughts on that so its an experiment let me kno what u guys think

[tinytoon]

Outside the fact it looks pretty young for full strength nutes and imo serious overkill with lights atm, it's green and growing. Looks good so far.

[kato420]

so which light would do better the hps or the mh im open to any ideas i can get, and i made a bubbleponics 5 gallon how do i know when to transfer it.

[FatBuddS408]

metal hallide for veg. HPS for flowering

[tinytoon]

Yes MH for veg and HPS for flower but I would have left it under a CFL or Floro for a while longer. When you say Bubbleponics are you talking DWC?? If so I'm not sure why your in a bucket filled with Hydrotron /shrug

[kato420]

right now its in 2.5 liter pot with drip. and yes dwc 5 gallon i plan to transfer it to that. Ive made single systems because in recirculating dwc what happens to one happens to all imo.

[GetThisOrDie]

Hello friends! been getting bags from friends only the good stuff cuz if it dont have a name i dont smoke it lol.

You are a crooked dealers best friend... Get some bullshit buds and slap a fancy name on it and the price increases!


Anyways the plant looks good but I agree with tiny. Very young for full nutes and the lights. You can save yourself some cash by using a CFL or two right now. How do you plan on transplanting it later? It will be very stressful to just pull it out of the rocks and try to make it fit into a netpot...

I dont know maybe I read it wrong because I am very medicated.

Goodluck and keep up the good work!

[kato420]

Thanx for quick replies i cut it down to just the mh im holding at 73 degrees. What better way to take bag seeds grow em and sell it back to the guy pedaling this crap they call weed lol. Honestly just tired of paying for it id rather pay my light bill. Ur right tho u slap a fancy name and price went up 40 bucks lol. A zip of a strain like nyc is 440 here and i just cant do it anymore. About the five gallon i would have to start it in it? Proly be the best idea its lookin like. Any of you that reside in Cali, i envy U

[tinytoon]

here is the route I take.
Germ seed in whatever method works best for you.
When seed cracks and lil root appears place in a Rapid Rooter and place under a CFL 23w Daylight bulb.
When sprout emerges place a small fan to create a gentle breeze to make stem stronger.
Hand water with PH'd water with a drop of Superthrive and lights 24/7.
When roots appear to be coming out of rooter place in small cup or pot with small amount of Hydrotron.
When you can see definite signs of "growing" the root system should be well on the way to being established and time to go to the netpot and under big lights.
4 weeks veg and 9-12 weeks flower and you are playing in green happiness.

[kato420]

well its been a little over a week so i thought id give u guys an update. 1 400 watt mh 24 hours a day and full strength nutes. ill post the pics in order. so i think its doin pretty well. Does anyone know how big i should let it get before cloning? and thanx tiny i just got some afgan hybrid im about to germ ill try ur method thanx

[tinytoon]

I dont know the correct answer to that but my opinion is at least 2-3 nodes on the branch you want to clone from. My thinking is any smaller than that and your talking a might small clone.

[macnasty]

when cloning, i've read from reputable sources to wait until there are at least 5 nodes on the main stem. but it depends on how many/often you want to clone. if you cut clones very early, you'll have to wait longer to cut more. if you're a little patient at first, you can expect to get 12+ clones a week from an 18 inch plant. if you cut early, you'll be nabbing 1 clone a week lol. your call. just make sure the clones you intend to cut are not TOO RIGID or TOO SOFT. if they are too rigid (i.e. hard) they will have a harder time producing roots. if they are too soft and fleshy, they will likely be too thin (i.e. less surface area for roots to develop) and will be open to damage as well. look for something in between.

[kato420]

wow, i was already intimidated about this cloning thing. Trail and error, the best way to learn i guess. ill give this a couple weeks and give an update be for i clone it see what u guys think thanx

[kato420]

well i thought id give an update. tiny i took ur advice and i got four more sprouted and these will go in dwc 5 gallon when there ready. theyre kinda hard to see in the pics. and this other plant is 5 and a half weeks old from seed. I didnt use the cfls to start these other ones i just put them about 3 feet away from the 400 mh all r on a 24 hour schedule

[kato420]

well another update, Since last post my mystery indica is exploding at 7 weeks and i got 5 afghan hybrid from north cali, and the two blocks together are grapefruit just starting. Im gonna get a diesel clone next week. anybody ever smoked straight diesel out there ive had the sour and the nyc but never just diesel...O im thinking about flowering the indy think its old enough now?

[Daddynobucks]

I wouldn't get to carried away with cuttings,you don't need to waste your time taking male clones wait till it has at least 6-8 sets of branches then induce flower at first sign of female flowers at the limb junction(early sign) make as many cuts as you need. some plants will be showing early signs at 6-10 nodes without cutting the light (lucky)

Daddy

[kato420]

well i just got my rooms divided i was thinking of taking 4 clones and throwing the plant into the other room on 12/12. I hear that if u take the clones when the plant is flowering it stresses them to much ..true? this plant already smells great do males smell like that?

[GetThisOrDie]

Cloning in flower can cause stress, not to mention it can be very difficult to get it to root because of the stems turning woody due to flowering.

Yes males can smell great too.