My Biggest Grow yet...

[martyrprojekt]

So...I have posted some information about this project previously. I am not going to rename products, size, scope, etc. I do not think an instructional guide for this is proper in this forum.

So what I am going to do is walk you through the grow...my rooms...strains...and what my life is like while going this big.

I will be posting pictures in about an hour. I went into flower in one room today...Room #2 goes to flower in a week. Room #3 goes to flower in week 3...all the way through the build out. I will focus on 5 rooms in this operation for the sake of not talking about commercial growing. I believe this design should get out so that people get ideas and replicate one room like this at home. perhaps 2, if you have the space.

[martyrprojekt]

Images from the OPERATION!

You can see I am running quite a bit of rooms here...BTW...I am posting more..not enough space to upload all my rooms.

I just flipped to flower today with my TGA Subcool strain called Jilybean (I love this stuff...thanks MZJILL for making this for us).

LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK!!!!

[martyrprojekt]

This is my new Lollipop style of growing for this operation. I had been tsting it and playing with this style for months (that I didn;t post on this forum). Finally got the strains and the space to do what I wanted.

And yes...GETTHISORDIE...I will need an apprentice.

[scottcc5s]

GREAT job Marty!! I can guess what part of CA you live in :thumbsup: ... Come on Prop 19 !! Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing. :)

[tinytoon]

The Ganja Guru is back!!! Nice to see you Marty and I am here for the ride.

[avon211]

Marty ~love it!!! Your rooms are wonderful. I am here for the ride too. Amazing work . :thumbsup: Looking forward to seeing updates.

[headshake]

looking damn find MP! nice space too.

-shake

[weeddaddy50]

in those storage containers marty.

Looks like you are using ebb and flow with moveable tables.

nice....love it.

[stra8outtaWeed]

nice setup and clean:thumbsup:

i bet your local hydro shop likes you :smokin:

[drudown11]

so marty can you get all the way through flower on just those Hugo Blocks?



Your grow looks like a finely tuned machine. How the hell do you take care of that by your self and still have a job? hahah because it seems like thats a full time job in itself

[Daddynobucks]

When I grow up I want to be a pot farmer:thumbsup:

what is the makeup of your new strain? looks like it works well in grow tables, again NICE JOB

Daddy

[martyrprojekt]

To answer some questions...

Weeddaddy = EBB & Flow flood tables 100 gallon res per side. Working wonderfully at the moment. Have had to fight some PH issues.

Drudown = Yes, they will flower in the 6 inch blocks And do perfectly fine. This is turning into a full time job quickly...Looks like I need to take a leave of absence from work...or go out on disability. Easy to do with my medical issues.

Str8outtaweed = Yes, my hydroshop loves me

scottccc = We won;t go into where I live exactly...But, we can call it the GREAT WHITE NORTH FOR fun! I'm not a fan of PROP. 19. It would make me a criminal, all over again.

Daddynobucks - Strain is called Jillybean from TGA SUBCOOL. Also growing PKUSH, QUERKLE, PURPLE URKLE, and my FAV SPACE QUEEN (GREEN CRACK).

[GetThisOrDie]

And yes...GETTHISORDIE...I will need an apprentice.


Sweet... Hopefully it will be sooner than later that I can get out there. We will have to get in touch for sure.

Your rooms are very clean. Looks great!

I love your strain choices. TGAsubcool strains are the shit! Your strain list is like my dream christmas list! Space Queen all the way.

:stoned:

[headshake]

TGA all the way. i've got agent orange in veg now (about to go into flower). i want to order jilly bean and the void! good stuff.

-shake

[martyrprojekt]

Shake: Yes! TGA, aka MZJill on these forums, has some of the best genetics these days. Not the crappy haze shit you see all over europe. Super excellent California based bud! KUDOS TO TGA!

GETTHIS: You have no idea how fucking busy I am. Working the fulltime job is going to come to an end sooner than later...this is taking most of my day (everyday). But, I love it!:D I'm a kid who got everything on his Christmas list purchased for him...and he gets to do what he loves fulltime...God Bless America! Oh wait, yeah...I'm still a federal criminal though. LMFAO!
:rasta:

Daddynobucks: It looks like that now I'm all grown up, I can be a pot farmer! Best feeling ever. I honestly am counting down the days before I bounce from work.

[Daddynobucks]

Now all you need is a few automation controllers to give you back some of your free time :rastasmoke:

Daddy
retired for years but always busy

[tinytoon]

How did I know that Green Crack would be 1 of your strains lol. Again that is so sweet for a setup all I can do is drool about it hehe :D

[GetThisOrDie]

Dude shake... Ive seen pics of The Void and it looks incredible. I still want space queen beans!

[headshake]

"Smells like sour grape pepper funk. (the void)

that description of smell makes my mouth water!


-shake

[martyrprojekt]

I pulled out a jar of my 2009 Winter Blue Dream...:stoned::stoned::stoned:

I forgot how good that grow turned out. Always a good idea to keep a jar of your best vintage for such an occasion.

I'm posting updates tonight...If I wake up from this nap I'm about to take!:jointsmile:

[martyrprojekt]

Clones are being made today...I just fell in love with Aeroponics for the first time! Easiest way to clone hands down. I am now a believer. Now I just gotta find a 2x4 humidity dome. LMAO!


Pics #1 & #2 are my Jilly Bean Room
Pics #3 & #4 are my Querkle
Pic #5 is my Cindy 99 (love this strain)

Funny story today happened at the grow op.

Money guy says to me..."Hey, I am concerned you are cutting corners."

I respond, "What corners do you think I have cut."

He said, "I read recently on a forum that you should flush our 100 gallon RES tanks every week."

I respond, "Why would I do all that extra work. I flush before flower, and before harvest. That is the generally accepted method amongst those who have grown a long time. If you feel I am cutting corners because I have the experience to know what not to waste my time with...Then, YES...I cut corners every day...in order to be time efficient and maximize the harvest."

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TOOOOOO FUCKING FUNNY! Rookies amaze me sometimes.

[GetThisOrDie]

Nice pics martyr...


The jilly beans looks great.

[tinytoon]

/drool
Marty you suck lol :D

[martyrprojekt]

Well my shit exploded this week. 3 more containers in flower today...

Take a look and....STOP DROOLING ON THE KEYBOARD TINY...and hit me back up later.

[scottcc5s]

That be major league stuff, great job. Do not know how you do it that BIG with the day job, great work....:)

[tinytoon]

Didnt think you needed a dome with aero (EZ Cloner, etc)??

[avon211]

Day job? shit Martys retired! You can believe that for sure

[martyrprojekt]

That be major league stuff, great job. Do not know how you do it that BIG with the day job, great work....:)

Basically I am working 2 full time jobs right now. Once the first harvest hits, I plan on opening a dispensary and working full time on the grow and dispensary...if Prop 19 doesn't pass.

If prop 19 passes. I might be stepping away from growing until the heat cools off in California. We shall find out soon!:thumbsup:

[martyrprojekt]

Didnt think you needed a dome with aero (EZ Cloner, etc)??

Always a good idea to keep the foliage from turning yellow.

[martyrprojekt]

Day job? shit Martys retired! You can believe that for sure

I wish I was Retired...If I keep up this pace...I'm gonna burn out quick though.

[tinytoon]

5 hour energy to the rescue!!!:D

[polishpollack]

Regarding the flushing of res every week... it's interesting how so much bad info goes around on the web. Naive people take what they read as gospel and live their lives according to that data, not considering if it's wrong. No offense to anyone, but alot of bad info gets spread in forums like this on how to grow.
Martyr, I'm curious about your airflow. Is it running 24 hours or just to air exchange and temp control? I wouldn't want your power bill :D

[martyrprojekt]

Regarding the flushing of res every week... it's interesting how so much bad info goes around on the web. Naive people take what they read as gospel and live their lives according to that data, not considering if it's wrong. No offense to anyone, but alot of bad info gets spread in forums like this on how to grow.
Martyr, I'm curious about your airflow. Is it running 24 hours or just to air exchange and temp control? I wouldn't want your power bill :D

Funny enough...MOST of the people who post a lot in this forum are master growers in their dedicated fields. Aero, aqua, hydro, and soil. And, we are all pretty quick to correct the boneheads who give out bad info. LMAO!

AIRFLOW is definitely a potential issue. I am running a commerical A/C in each room and I can cool to a comfortable 65 degrees during the light cycle. Also, I am running 3 different types of containers...1000 watt lights, 600 watt lights....with magnum XL hoods...also running air wings...Surprisingly enough, the air wings stay the coolest.

I run my osilating fans 24/7 and my carbon filters 24/7...I run the exhaust the entire time the Lights cycle is on. Being controlled by Sentinel timers.:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile:

[martyrprojekt]

5 hour energy to the rescue!!!:D

Why would I fuck up the buzz from my Blue Dream? BTW, Cracked My blue dream circa 2009 December...and Green Crack...Been flying lately...I have been every night since I cracked those jars open. My whole house wreaked of both for 2 days after opening the jars...I love it!

[GetThisOrDie]

Martyr you are making my mouth water mentioning your old space queen... wish I had some for sure!

Did you say you keep your rooms at 65f with lights on? Isnt that a bit cool?? Ive been experimenting with temps in my tent and 70-72f seems to grow a bit slower than high 70s. Might just be strain related though..

[martyrprojekt]

Martyr you are making my mouth water mentioning your old space queen... wish I had some for sure!

Did you say you keep your rooms at 65f with lights on? Isnt that a bit cool?? Ive been experimenting with temps in my tent and 70-72f seems to grow a bit slower than high 70s. Might just be strain related though..

Sorry. Let me clarify. I have the ability to run that cold. I do not run that cold until I want my plants to purple...and go burgundy. Then I will drop to range of 65-70...and early flower 70-75. Is definitely strain related to enduce more color during flower leaf color change.

[NugulousPrime]

It's like a green wet dream. I would love to sample it. Any chance it may makes it way to PA? Yeah, didn't think so.

[tinytoon]

If Marty heads East he better be otw to my house :stoned:

[martyrprojekt]

Sorry Gentlemen...I do not believe the federal government will allow someone like me over there. Hell, they won't let me past the Mississippi river. The cops are waiting there with RPG's and Air Support.

I just got a cool suprise today...A buddy sent me a letter from Afghanistan. It just happened to contain 5 lovely seeds from a field out there. He claims to have walked through a field for 10 days on patrol and he scouted out the biggest baddest Afghani he could find...These five seeds came from that plant. Praying to god I get one good male and one good female. These will be how I stablize my recessive strains from the US.

Also, I saw this article today. I am now boycotting the NFL.

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TAMPA, Fla. (AP)â??Tampa Bay Buccaneers tight end Jerramy Stevens(notes) has been released by the team after being arrested and charged with possession of marijuana.

The Bucs made the move Monday, two days after police said the 30-year-old player was pulled over in his pickup truck for loud music and an officer smelled marijuana inside the vehicle.

Stevens sat out Sundayâ??s 18-17 victory over the St. Louis Rams.

Police said 38 grams of marijuana was found in the truck. Stevens was taken to jail and charged with possession of marijuana with intent to sell and possession of drug paraphernalia.

The ninth-year pro had three catches for 43 yards and no touchdowns this season

[tinytoon]

I knew there was a reason why I didnt like football :wtf:
Intent to sell?? With the money that guy makes he wasnt selling it ......... he was having a party :jointsmile:

[martyrprojekt]

Hey guys,

I have not written in a while due to some unforseen issues. Sometimes you can grow toooo well. Jillybean can only veg for two weeks. 3 weeks and they are enormous. This strain would do excellently in a greenhouse or TREES of GREEN growing method where vertical height is not limited.

THE GOOD: It grows fast, it has lots of cola slots, Does not need topping, and will finish in 7 weeks with bushmaster. PH issues and jacked up water source...does not matter. This plant has some tolerance to fluctuations.

The bad of this strain, even with bushmaster applications, it stretches like crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And it grows very fast...will need to think out canopy and cut off fan leaves (i know, don't say it...matter of opinion)...but, in my containers, they are think, I have too.

[tinytoon]

Interesting that you brought up fan leaves being trimmed. I am doing the same inside my tent to allow light to the bottom of the plant, just removing the big shade givers :D

[martyrprojekt]

wow...I was high when I posted last night. its even better when you try to read it again in the morning. LMAO! What was I thinking?

So, I went back through my old posts. Man have I come a long way from popping seeds of citral. Every grow of mine has been bigger and better than the last. And, I am wondering to myself...How can I top my current grow. The answer is...I can't top the grow...But, I can try and make one of the best strains on earth.

SO with that being said...I am going to be running a genetics grow room. I will be searching for a Male Jilly bean to cross with my Afghani seeds that were gifted to me.

This will be a blast. Are you guys in? If this is successful, I will send some seeds out.

[headshake]

This will be a blast. Are you guys in? If this is successful, I will send some seeds out.

ummm, let me think about it for a second, umm HELL YES!!!

-shake

[StoneMeadow]

I'm in! :D

[tinytoon]

you know I'm there :thumbsup:

[GetThisOrDie]

Awesome idea martyr... Im down for sure.

Your rooms look great dude. You will have to be crawling down the middle aisle to check the back plants soon! How do the jilly beans smell?

Id like to see you grow in a field under the ultimate HPS. I love seeing our favorite herb basking in nature. Its definitely the most beautiful plant on Earth in my oppinion.

[martyrprojekt]

Awesome idea martyr... Im down for sure.

Your rooms look great dude. You will have to be crawling down the middle aisle to check the back plants soon! How do the jilly beans smell?

Id like to see you grow in a field under the ultimate HPS. I love seeing our favorite herb basking in nature. Its definitely the most beautiful plant on Earth in my oppinion.

GETTHIS ---

Funny enough the smell of Jillybean depends on which of the 2 phenoms you happen to be smelling. The taller and less compact variety is more of an Orange peel and diesel fuel smell. It's quite sexy.

the 2nd phenotype smell is hard to pin. Its kinda citrusy, with a coreander (an almost purple smell) feel to it. the buds are very dense already. Cant wait to add some carbs soon

I would love to handle a 10 acre grow. That would be ideal...all greenhouse and with light deprivation techniques in effect. Remember...originally I was an outdoor guerilla farmer. This indoor stuff if far more intense...and makes you live a little on the edge. But, someday sir...I will be posting pictures of acres of hemp and cannabis plants being grown on a farm owned by MARTYR!

[scottcc5s]

wow...I was high when I posted last night. its even better when you try to read it again in the morning. LMAO! What was I thinking?

So, I went back through my old posts. Man have I come a long way from popping seeds of citral. Every grow of mine has been bigger and better than the last. And, I am wondering to myself...How can I top my current grow. The answer is...I can't top the grow...But, I can try and make one of the best strains on earth.

SO with that being said...I am going to be running a genetics grow room. I will be searching for a Male Jilly bean to cross with my Afghani seeds that were gifted to me.

This will be a blast. Are you guys in? If this is successful, I will send some seeds out.

Count me in, always looking for something new/CA local flavor. Cant wait to see what name you give it. Keep up the good works.

[GetThisOrDie]

Thats my dream martyr... to have a farm in cali.


Ahh what a life that would be.

[martyrprojekt]

Well guys. Here's the update

In container #1 I am starting week#5 of flower.
In container #2 I am starting week#4 of flower.
In container #3 I am starting week#3 of flower.

They are all looking excellent, and my Jillybean is already starting to show their color change in container #1...Leave it to a heavy dose of bushmaster being applied for over a week to accomplish this so early. I might be completely finished at week #7 for this strain. It all depends on the color at this point. Especially with the market flooded with OUTDOOR CRAP, I want to make sure I have nothing but perfect bag appeal product...covered in trichcomes with gorgeous red and purple coloring.

This Cindy 99 actually looks fantastic. I was able to grow just my Crown tops on these with no lower growth at all...This will be a heavy yielder when its done. These are the last pics I loaded.

FYI...I love growing. I love everything about it, especially the patients I get to help. I hate this new industry thats popping up. Commercial business models in this industry do not work. It sacrifices quality and personal integrity for profit, and thats not why I am here. Please continue to spread the love and passion for our art...but, be careful who we are empowering with this knowledge, as they are using it for greed and unethical endeavors.:hippy:

[tinytoon]

Well put!!! :clap:

[ZZTops]

Wow... Great Thread Marty, Thanks for Sharing...

If it's OK I will pull up a chair...

I popped some Jilly Beans a few weeks ago and they look wonderful...

Cool temps for color in Flower will not be a problem here...

[Alantae]

What's that, a couple hundred grand? You're gonna make BANK! :thumbsup:
But like you said, it's not about just making money, it's about helping people who need it.

[martyrprojekt]

What's that, a couple hundred grand? You're gonna make BANK! :thumbsup:
But like you said, it's not about just making money, it's about helping people who need it.

After payroll, rent, nutes, cost, etc....Still haven't covered costs yet. Not until the 3rd grow...Then I will be profitable...but, not by much. i can make a living though.

[GetThisOrDie]

Looking great Martyr.

Cant wait to see them in a few weeks... going to look delicious.

[avon211]

O come on Marty ...Your making bank. If you don't something is wrong. How can you not turn a profit with that kind of grow? Trust me I know there are expenses involved. Heck I am just impressed with your grows!!! Awesome job.

[martyrprojekt]

O come on Marty ...Your making bank. If you don't something is wrong. How can you not turn a profit with that kind of grow? Trust me I know there are expenses involved. Heck I am just impressed with your grows!!! Awesome job.

Actually, in a true business model, there is no profit until the original investment is paid back. And, I am only showing you 3 containers. I have 12 flower, one veg, and one nursery. Yes, I am expecting 10-15 pounds per container. The money is there...but, we already dropped half a million on buildout, security, etc. I really don't want to talk figures in this as it just makes certain government folks a bit mad...and motivated. I must be getting paranoid in my old age (turned 30 this week...yeah yeah...I'm young yadda yadda). I honestly never thought I would live this long.

[drudown11]

marty you are a inspiration to me. If there is one person that i look up to in the marijuana growing industry, its you. Everytime i see one of your huge grows its plants an idea in the back of my head that will never go away. hahaha

just a quick question with your bushmaster. how do you like to apply it.


Do you run it through the drippers, or do you foliar feed. The stuff is amazing but im just trying to find the safest way to apply it to my hydroponic plants. :thumbsup:

[drudown11]

Actually, in a true business model, there is no profit until the original investment is paid back. And, I am only showing you 3 containers. I have 12 flower, one veg, and one nursery. Yes, I am expecting 10-15 pounds per container. The money is there...but, we already dropped half a million on buildout, security, etc. I really don't want to talk figures in this as it just makes certain government folks a bit mad...and motivated. I must be getting paranoid in my old age (turned 30 this week...yeah yeah...I'm young yadda yadda). I honestly never thought I would live this long.

who really gives a fuck about making millions, your a full time pot farmer.


to some people that alone is considered a life of satisfation, regardless of the money.

[tinytoon]

I would take that as a full time job anyday!! :weedpoke:

[GetThisOrDie]

Thats what I plan on doing one day... Just need a way to get to cali.

One day!!

[tinytoon]

GToD head west young man, head west

[scottcc5s]

Great job Marty, can't wait to see your piles and piles of buds!! :)

[polishpollack]

Is there a thread on how you're doing this? I'd like the particulars. Never seen a large indoor hydro grow before; soil yes, not hydro.

[BudLuv420]

Question Marty, what size pump do you use to flood each tray? I had the similar setup (smaller in size 4x4 tray) with 20 plants with hydroton surrounded the cubes. work great but when I tried without hydroton I got bad results with loosing majority of the plants. I believe I messed up by not flooding at least 3/4 of the tray. Any feed back would be appreciated. Bud out

[weeddaddy50]

Looking like yor hands are full.

keep us posted.

[martyrprojekt]

marty you are a inspiration to me. If there is one person that i look up to in the marijuana growing industry, its you. Everytime i see one of your huge grows its plants an idea in the back of my head that will never go away. hahaha

just a quick question with your bushmaster. how do you like to apply it.


Do you run it through the drippers, or do you foliar feed. The stuff is amazing but im just trying to find the safest way to apply it to my hydroponic plants. :thumbsup:


So I have tried foliar feeding with bushmaster and it does not work well. I apply to the res...never flush it out. apply 30 ml per 50 gallon res. This way it stops verticle growth and stacks the buds on without damaging the growth. It is very strain specific though...so be careful! Also raise the lights up before applying.

Also, I am using ebb & flow in this grow...Normally applied through drip lines when growing in residential though.

[martyrprojekt]

who really gives a fuck about making millions, your a full time pot farmer.


to some people that alone is considered a life of satisfation, regardless of the money.

The shitty fact is that I am not full time...yet. Maybe in the next year I might. I do hold a nice kushy corporate day job. It makes me miserable though...and this is my saving grace. It makes me feel like I'mmaking up for being a corporate stooge...It keeps the yin and yang in balance :thumbsup:

[martyrprojekt]

Is there a thread on how you're doing this? I'd like the particulars. Never seen a large indoor hydro grow before; soil yes, not hydro.

To answer your question...No. Giving the particulars of a commercial grow operation violates the terms and conditions of this site. Also, I am not endorsing that anyone grow like this. I do not wish bad karma on myself by endorsing others grow in this same manner. That would be irresponsible of me. This is a shit ton of work, not easy, and should require 2 full time growers and 1 genetics guy.

I might someday release the design of one container. After I see yield and quality coming out of these rooms. I am still dialing everything in, and this is my first grow here.

[martyrprojekt]

Great job Marty, can't wait to see your piles and piles of buds!! :)

MEEEEEE TOO!:hippy:

[martyrprojekt]

Thats what I plan on doing one day... Just need a way to get to cali.

One day!!

My advice...grow great bud at home. Grow outdoors during the summer. Grow great indoor during the off season. Make some money...and then put together bigger operations with every grow. Always have a grow going...and an expansion in progress.

Tiny...you know what I am talking about!

[martyrprojekt]

Question Marty, what size pump do you use to flood each tray? I had the similar setup (smaller in size 4x4 tray) with 20 plants with hydroton surrounded the cubes. work great but when I tried without hydroton I got bad results with loosing majority of the plants. I believe I messed up by not flooding at least 3/4 of the tray. Any feed back would be appreciated. Bud out

I use the big pond pumps from Home Depot...Biggest ones they sell. I set my sentinel to water every 4 hours...in 15 minute intervals. Works fantastic...as you can see!

BTW, I clipped a little nug...dried it out...its sitting in a jar. Cant wait to smoke it. Smells like an Orange orgasm.

[tinytoon]

Yup I know what you mean until you run out of room lol. Looking at maybe buying 35+ acres in CO so the room part might be solved hehe.

[martyrprojekt]

The Future is in your own strains...and indoor farming...or even greenhouse (when done right with light derprevation techniques in full force). 30 ACRES IN cOLORADO IS SCARY....especially with all the law changes going on out there.

[tinytoon]

LOL Marty I didnt mean grow with the 30 acres. I would have a building of some sort for that.

[martyrprojekt]

It would be a waste not to use every square meter available. :D

[scottcc5s]

Marty:

When you are running Bush Master, what's your PH typically at?? Do you just run RO water and Bush Master or do you put in some Cal Mag also?

[aeromaniac]

This is my first grow. Using aeroponics, with advanced nutrients. I'm in week 1 of flowereing faze and I have a 31 gallon rez filled with 7 Gallons of distilled water, I used Sensi Bloom A,B 4 ML per gallon and added Bud Factor X 0-0-1 2 Ml per gallon, My p.h keeps shooting up to 6.3 6.5 I used advanced nutrients ph down and it wont budge. What am I doing wrong? Please help. BTW plants look healthy. no

[martyrprojekt]

Marty:

When you are running Bush Master, what's your PH typically at?? Do you just run RO water and Bush Master or do you put in some Cal Mag also?

PH is at about 5.8 and hit with bushmaster and calmag. Calmag is a staple for me and I am never without it.

[martyrprojekt]

This is my first grow. Using aeroponics, with advanced nutrients. I'm in week 1 of flowereing faze and I have a 31 gallon rez filled with 7 Gallons of distilled water, I used Sensi Bloom A,B 4 ML per gallon and added Bud Factor X 0-0-1 2 Ml per gallon, My p.h keeps shooting up to 6.3 6.5 I used advanced nutrients ph down and it wont budge. What am I doing wrong? Please help. BTW plants look healthy. no

You are not adding enough PH down. Allthough 6.5 is a little high for flowering...you do need to bring it down to about 6.0-6.2 on the higher end. What is your ppm at?

[scottcc5s]

PH is at about 5.8 and hit with bushmaster and calmag. Calmag is a staple for me and I am never without it.

Thanks. Yep got to love Cal Mag, this is my second run trying out Bush Master and going to let it run for 5 days. Just run RO/Cal Mag/ Bush M and my PPM is around 875.

[GetThisOrDie]

Martyr!

Might possibly have an opportunity to make it to cali. If all goes well with this potential job transfer. Would be in Roseville, right outside of sacramento.

If it works out then maybe you can teach me a few things in person. :D

[ForgetClassC]

.........Wow........

I don't know what to say, really, awesome job.

-C

[martyrprojekt]

Allright guys...I cut this week. Should be fun. I will be taking some high resolution pictures before I cut. I have no taken my good camera, yet.

I love how these girls are turning a nice shade of Red and purple. I am fluctuating the temp at night to drop 20 degrees below the daytime avg. temp of the flower room. Sorry the resolution sucks...:thumbsup:

PS...I do not respond to people asking me for my email, or how much my plants cost. That's bullshit...as I obviously am not a drug dealer, and I am not looking to supply anyone. I do serve cancer patients, chronic pain patients, and mental health patients (by invitation only). Although, I have been known to share a cutting and a few seeds. I will say this as nicely as possible...Back the fuck off, please. :D

[GetThisOrDie]

Martyr those look awesome. Are those the jilly bean?

What were the temps you let it down to exactly?

[LOC NAR on probation]

Allright guys...I cut this week. Should be fun. I will be taking some high resolution pictures before I cut. I have no taken my good camera, yet.

I love how these girls are turning a nice shade of Red and purple. I am fluctuating the temp at night to drop 20 degrees below the daytime avg. temp of the flower room. Sorry the resolution sucks...:thumbsup:

PS...I do not respond to people asking me for my email, or how much my plants cost. That's bullshit...as I obviously am not a drug dealer, and I am not looking to supply anyone. I do serve cancer patients, chronic pain patients, and mental health patients (by invitation only). Although, I have been known to share a cutting and a few seeds. I will say this as nicely as possible...Back the fuck off, please. :D

Awsome man. I just cut alittle too but not that much.

I like you sticking to your guns. what is it with some people. with caregivers it's not about the money it's about helping.

[tinytoon]

PS...I do not respond to people asking me for my email, or how much my plants cost. That's bullshit...as I obviously am not a drug dealer, and I am not looking to supply anyone. I do serve cancer patients, chronic pain patients, and mental health patients (by invitation only). Although, I have been known to share a cutting and a few seeds. I will say this as nicely as possible...Back the fuck off, please. :D

Booya!!!:thumbsup:
Well said my friend:jointsmile:

[GetThisOrDie]

Did I miss someone asking you if they could buy some?? Rofl..

Some people are funny.

[martyrprojekt]

Martyr those look awesome. Are those the jilly bean?

What were the temps you let it down to exactly?

60 degrees farenheit at night...75 degrees in daytime...

I usually drop to 55 degrees at week #5...70 degrees daytime.

YESIR...IT's jillybean. I chopped them down today...at day 49. Thanks Bushmaster!:thumbsup:

[martyrprojekt]

Did I miss someone asking you if they could buy some?? Rofl..

Some people are funny.

Asked me for my email address and how much for my medicine. I am still in shock. If you need a connect that bad, then start hanging out with musicians. They always have great shit.

Still too funny. Tiny got hammered...then I got hammered. Someone is fucking with us. LOL...DAMN THE MAN!:stoned:

[GetThisOrDie]

LOL...

one of these days im going to have to try some bushmaster.

So it ripens faster as well as keeps them shorter?

[LOC NAR on probation]

If you like bushmaster then you need to look at Flower Dragon.

If you use it for the first 2 weeks of flower it makes them bush and start flowering early.

If you use it week 3 and then week 7 it's a double punch. You get alittle stretch but then pack on the weight.

Or use it the last 2 weeks before the flush to pack on alot of weight.

I have just tried it for the first 2 weeks and the last 2 weeks and then a 1week flush with plain ph water. It has made them tighter and fatter and way more heavy. I'm very pleased with a one part flower booster that can be so easy and veritile.

I have tested it all ways the last 6 months in DWC. Bigger buds more weight.

I still use bushmaster on the ones in veg that want to be trees like the Hawiian. I think I will try to use the bushmaster in the same ways as flower dragon and see what turns out.

[MadSativa]

very cool what is your gram per watt ratio?

[tinytoon]

Hell I just got slapped again for telling someone to read. I'm about ready to take a break for a bit, just not worth argueing with the younger crowd that knows all but has to ask how, what, where, when and why.:wtf:

[scottcc5s]

Hell I just got slapped again for telling someone to read. I'm about ready to take a break for a bit, just not worth argueing with the younger crowd that knows all but has to ask how, what, where, when and why.:wtf:

Just got to love the young ones who are the text generation...I want information and I want it now!!!

Marty: Like many have said already, great job. I just used bushmaster on my second grow, ran it for 5 days so will see how my plants do. :)

[martyrprojekt]

very cool what is your gram per watt ratio?

I will be able to answer this when I weigh up. lol! Got at least a week and half before I can do that. My aim is for 10 lbs per container. Tighten it up to 12-15 lbs when dialed in.:jointsmile:

[martyrprojekt]

Just got to love the young ones who are the text generation...I want information and I want it now!!!

Marty: Like many have said already, great job. I just used bushmaster on my second grow, ran it for 5 days so will see how my plants do. :)

This next generation is fucked. They have no souls. They will lie to your face and not flinch. They are sub-human, sheeple.

Thanks for the kudos sir...I have been busting my ass this time around. I am probably going to be ditching this grow for a bit on here, and start focusing on genetics. I'm in the process of setting up my genetics rooms at my new house. They are looking super sick, and I can not wait to geet it fired up so I can start crossing these strains...and stabilizing. I will be giving some of you my email address so I can send seeds for testing...I will have waaaay too many generations to grow myself. And, I would hate for the best strain ever to get away from us.:D

[scottcc5s]

This next generation is fucked. They have no souls. They will lie to your face and not flinch. They are sub-human, sheeple.

Thanks for the kudos sir...I have been busting my ass this time around. I am probably going to be ditching this grow for a bit on here, and start focusing on genetics. I'm in the process of setting up my genetics rooms at my new house. They are looking super sick, and I can not wait to geet it fired up so I can start crossing these strains...and stabilizing. I will be giving some of you my email address so I can send seeds for testing...I will have waaaay too many generations to grow myself. And, I would hate for the best strain ever to get away from us.:D

That would be great if you can get the genetics going, put me down as a tester for ya....I will even send you a pre-paid envelope :)

[drudown11]

This next generation is fucked. They have no souls. They will lie to your face and not flinch. They are sub-human, sheeple.

Thanks for the kudos sir...I have been busting my ass this time around. I am probably going to be ditching this grow for a bit on here, and start focusing on genetics. I'm in the process of setting up my genetics rooms at my new house. They are looking super sick, and I can not wait to geet it fired up so I can start crossing these strains...and stabilizing. I will be giving some of you my email address so I can send seeds for testing...I will have waaaay too many generations to grow myself. And, I would hate for the best strain ever to get away from us.:D

please please prettyyy pretty please......include me in that list hahahahaha.
I have wet dreams about your "blue dream" and would be honored to grow out some of your genetics. My next grow will be using a system very similar to yours so the results should be at least a little similar.


I also have some seeds of my pure purple strain if you interested in having a little variety in the future. I wanna spread the strain around to keep her alive.

[GetThisOrDie]

How do you guys ship seeds around safely? I just want to know from someone who has done it succesfully before so that I may participate in such things as strain sharing!

[martyrprojekt]

How do you guys ship seeds around safely? I just want to know from someone who has done it succesfully before so that I may participate in such things as strain sharing!

Put seeds in tube, or envelope. Tape to paper...tape to a greeting card. Mail.

Arrives at buddy's house...and he get a nice get well card...always a hallmark.

[MadSativa]

I will be able to answer this when I weigh up. lol! Got at least a week and half before I can do that. My aim is for 10 lbs per container. Tighten it up to 12-15 lbs when dialed in.:jointsmile:

very cool, cant wait for the results.

[GetThisOrDie]

Haha in a greeting card? Ill be damn.

Thats sneaky. Those probably just go through less inspection than a package would I assume.

[drudown11]

wow it looks like that Jilly bean reallly wanted to stretch on you despite the Bushmaster. Does she show colors regardless of temperature change, or do you have to drop them temp's during flowering to show the fall colors? The yellow, purple, and red tinges are just plain beautiful.

I hope this isnt trying to ask to much, but how exactly do you drop your temperatures? Do you have cold air being vented from the outside? Air conditioning? I love how you have so much control over your environmental conditions.

[ForgetClassC]

Hell I just got slapped again for telling someone to read. I'm about ready to take a break for a bit, just not worth argueing with the younger crowd that knows all but has to ask how, what, where, when and why.:wtf:

Lol.

-C

[aeromaniac]

You are not adding enough PH down. Allthough 6.5 is a little high for flowering...you do need to bring it down to about 6.0-6.2 on the higher end. What is your ppm at?
PPM is at 1350, (WEEK 3 Now)started with 100 PPm of cal/mag to distilled water, then 4.5ML per L,of Sensi bloom (A) and equal amount of Sensi Bloom (B). I then added my additives. Bud factor X @ 2 ML per L and Bud Candy at 2ML per liter as well. Have a 400 Watt light and still the next day my P.h rose to 6.4, I managed to bring it down by putting in about 15 drops of Ph Down, to about 5.7 and now it's at 6.0. Do you think I'm harming my Babies with too much Ph down?

[Lynhal]

Haha in a greeting card? Ill be damn.

Thats sneaky. Those probably just go through less inspection than a package would I assume.

And this is the perfect season for sending out large quantities of greeting cards that will most likely not be inspected. Any major holiday is the time for gifting beans out. ;)

[GetThisOrDie]

Good point.

[spoon2610]

Wonderful post! Hopefully in about a year i will be at this level but im tooooo green. I need way more knowledge and time but everyone in this forum has been so kind to lend a hand. :jointsmile:

[martyrprojekt]

I'm going MIA for a spell. I will explain later. DAMN THE MAN!:hippy:

[tinytoon]

uh oh, is it gorilla warfare time?? :apachecopter:

[drudown11]

I'm going MIA for a spell. I will explain later. DAMN THE MAN!:hippy:

damn the man indeed :thumbsup:

[martyrprojekt]

Well...the folks I was growing with on this violated my code of ethics and security rules. I grabbed my cut and bounced. Packed up my shit and left. Time to keep it at home and perfectly controlled...my way.

Stuff turned out fantastic...you must have ethics in this business...and when I find that those I partnered with turned out to be liars and thieves...it was time for me to cut ties.

[tinytoon]

That sucks bud. Glad to hear the grow turned out good but the rest really blows :mad:

They do sell storage trailers, overseas shipping containers, and conex boxes to the general public :thumbsup:

[avon211]

Come on Marty you know there are many thieves in this growing business. Do it yourself and keep your house guarded against thieves. Glad your ok was a bit worried for my pal. Tiny assured me you would be ok. Get medicated and forget about it. Move on to the next grow!

[GetThisOrDie]

That sucks dude.

Like tiny said... Ive seen ads for those trailers prewired and insulated for growing and they drop them off at your house. Has security and cameras as well lol.

[weeddaddy50]

Glad your ok...and you got your cut.....I have been asked to join several indoor grows....it's scary....and I feel that doing my own thing...is best....you are better off on your own....keep doing your own thing....keep it simple...

Your yields may be less..but...your way safer....:thumbsup:

[LOC NAR on probation]

Well...the folks I was growing with on this violated my code of ethics and security rules. I grabbed my cut and bounced. Packed up my shit and left. Time to keep it at home and perfectly controlled...my way.

Stuff turned out fantastic...you must have ethics in this business...and when I find that those I partnered with turned out to be liars and thieves...it was time for me to cut ties.

I'm glad to see you stick by your guns on this one. Yes there are a lot of thieves and liars in this biz but it doesn't mean I have to put up with them. Once found out to be a liar it is just a matter of WHEN they do it to ya and they will.
Great you got out with your stuff and a cut. Doesn't happen that way often. At least not for me. My worst problems is my BRO and BRo-inLaw. They like to screw family cause what you going to do kill em. I don't kill em I just cut them off a watch them suffer while I am plenty medicated.

[scottcc5s]

Like others have already said, glad you are back and glad to hear all is safe for you. :thumbsup:

[amedicalguy]

Say, what are your tables made of? I'm looking at 2 4x8 rolling tables. so far my plan is to buid i with 2x4 and castors.. yours are metal/strong?

[syfaz967]

martyr. can you help me with bushmaster. u mentioned adding it to the res. BUT. i need the specifics. do u use water and bushmaster only with calmag. 12/12 light cycle? what day do u add the nutrients if your using only water and bushmaster. thanx

[syfaz967]

Well...the folks I was growing with on this violated my code of ethics and security rules. I grabbed my cut and bounced. Packed up my shit and left. Time to keep it at home and perfectly controlled...my way.

Stuff turned out fantastic...you must have ethics in this business...and when I find that those I partnered with turned out to be liars and thieves...it was time for me to cut ties.

martyr. can you help me with bushmaster. u mentioned adding it to the res. BUT. i need the specifics. do u use water and bushmaster only with calmag. 12/12 light cycle? what day do u add the nutrients if your using only water and bushmaster. thanx

[tinytoon]

Marty is in limbo somewhere atm so you might want to start a thread of your own with the same question.

[tipper619sd]

wow mp you are officially my ( big homie) lol I need your type of expertise on many things along with a project i am trying to build almost exactly like what you have. this is a great threas and i couldnt help myself on the drooling aspect lol luckily you said something and i woke up out of this dream but it still was there in pics lol. Keep up the good work peace .

[washmedical]

how many lights can you fit in a storage container.. where does all the electricity come from??

[rcpilot04401]

I noticed you mentioned Querkle. Ontario Seed Bank mentioned it to me, how do you find it for pain managment? And Awesome grow, and I thought my 6 babies were gorgeous.

[tinytoon]

Hate to say it but Marty has been AWOL for some time now. Hope all is well but have not heard a word since him and his "partners" found out that they were not going to get along very well.

[rcpilot04401]

:thumbsup:We have NOTHING like this up here in Maine...that does it, I packing the wife, kids and the dog up and moveing west...Marty, those are some GREAT post, I only wish I was as talented as you my friend, I'm only doing my 3rd grow, and still learning. I obviously have a long way to go before I reach you caliber. Excellant job my friend. Up here there is no bag apeal, just commercial Canadian brick weed. Now that I'm a medical patient/grower I'm meeting other growers with more experience for personal use and getting some great tips. And thanks to you and everyone else, the virtual tabernacals of knowledge that this forum has that helps little pee-ons like myself. I am humbled in your presence sir.

[rcpilot04401]

oh, thanks tinytoon...didn't read everything thru as of yet...was in the middle of doing that...thanks

[weeddaddy50]

Ya......marty......not on......under the radar.......really...the way is should be.

[GetThisOrDie]

I hope all is well with you martyr...

[ZeroWingX]

Hope your ok Martyr. Great grow man from one Cali grower to another. I have seen Scale grows like that they are always impressive but risky. I hope you didn't get caught in SoCals whirlwind of vengeance. Much love Brutha see ya around (Hopefully)
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